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wutthe4k
08-13-2008, 06:12 AM
Does anyone here believe in fate? Are each of our lives really already planned out for the most part? It's a weird thought to think we have a destiny that we can't change...
Captain Cannabis
08-13-2008, 06:15 AM
No.
KavaLava
08-13-2008, 06:16 AM
We make our own fate, because we make our own luck in life.
wutthe4k
08-13-2008, 06:17 AM
allow me to compliment you on the complexity of your response. the depth is mind boggling. heh
No.
Captain Cannabis
08-13-2008, 06:20 AM
allow me to compliment you on the complexity of your response. the depth is mind boggling. heh
The period gave it emphasis :p
wutthe4k
08-13-2008, 06:31 AM
^ lol
seizedbyanger
08-13-2008, 06:33 AM
fuck fate
i hate that shit
Stella_Drives
08-13-2008, 06:48 AM
I think everything is planned to a certain extent. Like, I think when we are in the transition between death and rebirth, we choose to be reincarnated with the same group of souls we've been with and then you run in to these soulmates throughout life, like when you meet someone and everything just clicks and you are comfortable with them immediately. And we choose what we have to struggle with in order to advance as a soul. But I believe there is some wiggle room and free will that exists, just the basic outline of life is planned.
wutthe4k
08-13-2008, 07:13 AM
interesting...kind of similar to my views in a way..like the whole basic outline concept..but i like the "transition between death and rebirth" thing
I think everything is planned to a certain extent. Like, I think when we are in the transition between death and rebirth, we choose to be reincarnated with the same group of souls we've been with and then you run in to these soulmates throughout life, like when you meet someone and everything just clicks and you are comfortable with them immediately. And we choose what we have to struggle with in order to advance as a soul. But I believe there is some wiggle room and free will that exists, just the basic outline of life is planned.
TopNotchStoner
08-13-2008, 07:16 AM
Fate presents us with opportunities. It is our decision as to what to do with those opportunities. In other words, fate decides what opportuinities are presented to us, but we decide the outcome.
High_Times_w_Kumar
08-13-2008, 07:23 AM
i dont believe in fate, but i do believe that one little choice good or bad can change your life forever, i usually think about what would have happened it my neighbor adnt moved to israel, we were best friends and she moved away, and now i havent said more that i think three maybe four paragraphs to each other, shes been back for 5 years, maybe if she hadnt left we would be dating and i might have gottne married, but i could have let my soulmate slip away and we may never be happy again. this is the shit i think about
thisisme5
08-13-2008, 07:25 AM
Thats heavy shit dude^^^ I beleive in fate to an extent... I think certain aspects of you life are set up for you like how long you live or how your personality is
Hamfoot
08-13-2008, 09:04 AM
regardless of the science behind experience, we only experience a moment once...
deathtoke
08-13-2008, 01:01 PM
I think that fate is a man's way of giving up personal responability for his past actions, and for fear of not living up to what he or others expect of him. Of course it is natural for humans to shift personaly responibility from themsleves to a manifected entity( be it fate, god, or the flying spageti monster) but I find when we put more stock in our own choices and live for each moment we are ultimently happier
wutthe4k
08-13-2008, 07:10 PM
it has been said that something as small as the flutter of a butterfly's wing can ultimately cause a typhoon halfway around the world
i dont believe in fate, but i do believe that one little choice good or bad can change your life forever
teh-horace
08-13-2008, 07:15 PM
i believe in a little thing called cause and effect
hippieatheart
08-13-2008, 08:42 PM
Fate presents us with opportunities. It is our decision as to what to do with those opportunities. In other words, fate decides what opportuinities are presented to us, but we decide the outcome.
my thoughts exactly.
Mother's Love
08-14-2008, 12:08 AM
to believe in fate, you have to believe in a power outside of yourself which can force your hand in something (a situation). some people feel that you can influence things to happen, or not happen. fate is a way of giving up. if fate exists, then it doesn't matter what we do. i think that lessons are learned in hard conditions, but fate is like self pity. it has no place in my beliefs.
when i was little my parents got divorced, and by the time i was in kindergarten/ first grade i was planning on running away or killing myself. i was sure that i had screwed up my parents lives, they didn't need me, i was a nuisance.
when i was 10 my mom moved us to colorado, and didn't tell us until we got there. i only recently found my very best friend... through the wretched miracle of myspace.
my father and stepmother sued for custody, bringing up my mothers old drug habits, and claiming that they were dealing coke out of our home. my mom showed me the paperwork accusing her of, among other things, being a bad parent.
i went to live in new york, and was treated as an inferior. i used to sit in front of my mirror with a skirt and watch my face turn purple, letting the blood whoosh out before i actually succeeded in killing myself. when i finally had enough, and decided to move back with my mom, i made my father cry. thats a really tough thing to deal with.
high school was a series of bad breakups. not much of a series, but all a result of my feelings. luckily i don't regret them now, not even the one to which i lost my virginity. seems not many people can say that these days.
the night of september 10, 2001 i had an unnerving dream about planes crashing into tall buildings. i watched from my ceramics class the next morning as the vivid premonition came to life. thats why i smoke before bed, i cant handle the dreams.
the summer i graduated high school my poppi died. he had alhzeimers, but he never once forgot me, or anything i had been through in my life.
i asked my friend with benefits if he wanted to be BF/GF, and he said no. i left him for the navy, and broke his heart. i almost married someone i didn't even know. when i came back home, he took me back, and i couldn't love him more today.
we had 2 miscarriages before getting pregnant with twins. then i lost one of them to SIDS, and found myself with a strange view of life and death since then. i recently found out that SIDS is linked to failing the first hearing test, if only i had known sooner.
there is a theme in my life, and it is pain. both dealt and recieved by me. achy heart, tortured soul. Lypiphera. but i refuse to be fated to anything.
marksup123
08-14-2008, 12:27 AM
^^ she just pwned this whole entire thread
st. stephen
08-14-2008, 06:51 AM
fates bull shit. no one controls how your life turns out and dont let anybody tell ya different.
TopNotchStoner
08-14-2008, 07:47 AM
Of course we are in control of how our lives turn out, but I still believe fate provides us with possibilities, and we take it upon ourselves to decide which of those possibilities will become reality.
~Baked Goods~
08-14-2008, 08:58 AM
I don't believe in fate. I may be a lot of peoples bitch, but damn not fate.
†ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg
08-14-2008, 09:14 AM
Well, sometimes I think things happen for a reason, weither they're good or bad. I can honestly say that i've learned something through ALL my experinces in life and tried to get the most out of them.
TopNotchStoner
08-14-2008, 09:18 AM
I honestly believe some things are meant to happen. I believe I was meant to get arrested a few times and I believe I was meant to make A LOT of incredibly stupid mistakes. Mistakes and hardships can be the best things to ever happen to us, as long as you learn from those mistakes/hardships, and I see them as fate's way of helping us become who we are meant to be.
I compare fate and it's influence on our lives to be quite similar to those "choose your own adventure" books I used to read as a kid. lol Fate shows us the possibilities and it's up to us to decide which of those possibilities we will bring to fruition.
~Baked Goods~
08-14-2008, 09:21 AM
I honestly believe some things are meant to happen. I believe I was meant to get arrested a few times and I believe I was meant to make A LOT of incredibly stupid mistakes. Mistakes and hardships can be the best things to ever happen to us, as long as you learn from those mistakes/hardships, and I see them as fate's way of helping us become who we are meant to be.
I compare fate and it's influence on our lives to be quite similar to those "choose your own adventure" books I used to read as a kid. Fate shows us the possibilities and we have to bring those possibilities to fruition.
I think you have a genuine idea there. Fate is true. It is fate that we are given options and choices. I'll admit that I was destined to experience some things. If I hadn't experienced somethings, I'd still be snorting cocaine everyday, doing anything to get more. It took 6 months after the worst time in my life so far to learn the lesson of discipline when it comes to drugs.
†ù®Ké¥ š†ûƒƒïñg
08-14-2008, 09:23 AM
I honestly believe some things are meant to happen. I believe I was meant to get arrested a few times and I believe I was meant to make A LOT of incredibly stupid mistakes. Mistakes and hardships can be the best things to ever happen to us, as long as you learn from those mistakes/hardships, and I see them as fate's way of helping us become who we are meant to be.
I compare fate and it's influence on our lives to be quite similar to those "choose your own adventure" books I used to read as a kid. lol Fate shows us the possibilities and it's up to us to decide which of those possibilities we will bring to fruition.
Thats exactly how I see it.
TopNotchStoner
08-14-2008, 06:31 PM
I think you have a genuine idea there. Fate is true. It is fate that we are given options and choices. I'll admit that I was destined to experience some things. If I hadn't experienced somethings, I'd still be snorting cocaine everyday, doing anything to get more. It took 6 months after the worst time in my life so far to learn the lesson of discipline when it comes to drugs.Eggzakly! 'Fate' put a fork in your path and you had to choose to either help yourself or continue hurting yourself. Fate decides when we will make a change in our lives, but it's up to us to make the dicision to change for the better or for the worse.
TheMadcapSyd
08-14-2008, 07:25 PM
Nope, I believe in free will.
wutthe4k
08-14-2008, 07:45 PM
i kinda have the same ideas as some of you guys...where as i do believe in fate, but i believe that it only takes you so far and then you have to choose how far you're willing to take it
fate could bring the girl of your dreams right under your nose...but it's your choice to run with it. if you let her pass you by, then that's fate walking right in and out of your life.
comfortably_numb9
08-14-2008, 09:32 PM
no fate doesnt exist. we are in control of our live and now one can change that. fate is just another way of blaming someone else for our mistakes. its a cowardly and immautre thing to blame a mystical force that you failed you test and that the girl you like doesnt talk to you. in order to succeed in life you must cease the day. may your own way in life becuase no one else will do it for you
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