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StonerBill
08-02-2008, 04:28 AM
We humans are freed and bound by our words. freed to express and determine. bound, however, within the extent to which others can ever really know what we are really talking about.
wo often have a pretty good idea whether we are talking about the same thing with our conversation partner or not.
but with certain situations or mental states, we can end up talking about different things or feelings with the same words. Most of the time, the difference between what we think we are saying and what other people think we are saying, is so small that we can neglect it moment to moment.
But it is forever between us.
An old saying says that there is a balance between suggestiveness and articulateness.
You cannot be absolutely both articulate and suggestive.
The purest expression of our spirit is mnecessarily a risk, because it does not know whether it will be recieved or not. The purest coomunication between two minds cannot involve words because that immediately isolates both persons from their Present Moment,m and put them into seperate distinct languages. a language is an accepted set of rules. one cannot fully express themSELVEs through acceptance of some OTHER's will (rules).
words are the hollow world that we have built from birth,
they are our ticket in,
and our ticket out
but they are not the language of the inner hearth
skullkidnate
08-02-2008, 11:12 AM
That's some deep shit bill.
Expressing how we feel and what we mean can be done with the body. For example making love.
StonerBill
08-02-2008, 03:42 PM
Even while making love, there are some actions we do as people that are recognisable symbols. Words do not just have to be with letters. they can be any symbol that we have accepted as meaning something after repeated or prolonged confirmation of that meaning.
A lot of these are used by us in our fear of being misinterpreted. However this fear is degrading.
And can ruin or make uncomfortable / ruin the perfect excitement of open sexual engagement.
That can be the difference between good and bad sex
Spaceboy13
08-03-2008, 05:59 AM
well i suppose the only way to really know if your convo partner knows what your talking about is if they say what your about to say before you say it. i was walking with my friend we were both tripping and the thought of ketamine popped into my mind and before i could say a word he turned and said "i cant wait to get some K". idk if it was a coincidince but i want to further study having conversations without voicing any sounds or words
Severely stoned
08-03-2008, 06:04 AM
^ Coincidences do happen but when an idea is in the universe it makes it much easier to tap into it subconsciously.
36fuckin5
08-03-2008, 06:28 AM
words are the hollow world that we have built from birth,
they are our ticket in,
and our ticket out
but they are not the language of the inner hearth
So speak in the language of God. Send your emotions to another person. Don't be discouraged when most people don't get your messages, though. Most people deny that it's possible.
well i suppose the only way to really know if your convo partner knows what your talking about is if they say what your about to say before you say it. i was walking with my friend we were both tripping and the thought of ketamine popped into my mind and before i could say a word he turned and said "i cant wait to get some K". idk if it was a coincidince but i want to further study having conversations without voicing any sounds or words
It CAN be done. I've done it many times. For example, at All Good, I told my friend to go fuck this girl he likes, telepathically. He looked over at me and went "Shut up, I'll do it when I'm ready." We got strange looks, but we both knew what was up.
I've also been broke at the bar and asked my friend (who was downstairs - no way to hear or see me, or know that I was broke, as I wasn't completely finished with my beer, which I bought myself) to get me a beer. He came back with a Newcastle draft and said "I heard you. Your welcome, but you owe me one."
^ Coincidences do happen but when an idea is in the universe it makes it much easier to tap into it subconsciously.
You just have to bring that idea to you by will. You have an equal chance of all situations.
Shapeshifter
08-03-2008, 07:47 AM
^^^^
I love the way you think!
Completely agree on everything you said, plus I can add that feelings can be transfered between people much easier through music, if you know what I mean.
StonerBill
08-03-2008, 04:03 PM
I dont know about telepathy but I do think we can read eachother well while on acid
Autentique
08-04-2008, 02:59 AM
I dont know about telepathy but I do think we can read eachother well while on acid
Last night I took 5 hits of acid. It was my first time and that was way more than I needed. Between all the insanity, one of the most beautiful thing was how our consciousness melted and blended together to make one movie and how every sound, breath, laugh, word seemed to be perfectly orchestrated and how there was no longer and I, but a we. Something I started to notice in silence and counting in my mind the time loops and right when I started counting John moved his index finger in a circle or snap his fingers and said... there it goes again. I just squeezed his hand and said I know :)
36fuckin5
08-04-2008, 08:34 AM
I dont know about telepathy but I do think we can read eachother well while on acid
Actually, once you realize that you can do it (cause you can, it's nothing you have to learn) it's MUCH clearer when you're sober. Having multiple thoughts at once kind of jumbles your message up with parts of other thoughts, so sometimes it takes a minute for the person to get it.
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