Morning glories/ LSA is a "Placebo" trip

[Severely stoned]

What I mean by the title is that LSA is a super mental drug. It's very weak but does have some effects (inteseifed with weed). I can be tripping balls one second on this drug and 10 minutes later im 100% sober. Or atleast I feel sober and think soberly. I made a 800 seed mix 2 and a half hours ago, went on a bike ride and put myself in a tripping environment. The whole time though I kind of had anti trippy thoughts in my head (the stuff im talking about now).

My point is that LSA is really a very weak drug and its almost entriely mental. I have taken anywhere from 400-1100 seeds on a good number of occasions.

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The placebo thing well, you give someone a placebo tell them its E or somthing and they will act like they're on E. anyway. That's the saying :p. Very weak drug but people can imagine effects.

[pedaltopedal]

well, in my experience, the effects from psychedelics can sometimes come in waves... such that at one moment, you are overwhelmed with intense effects and at another moment, you feel completely sober.

LSA is a powerful psychedelic. Maybe this particular extraction you made was weak, or you have developed some physical tolerance to the effects. How often have you been tripping on LSA?

[Severely stoned]

havnt done it in over a week before tonight. 800 seed extraction and 0 effects. ive found the same with my lsa trip, 1100 seeds I was tripping hard for like an hour but there were no real effects it was purely a mental high. I've only ever tripped hard on seeds once and that was when i smoked a lot of weed the same day. I'm becomming more and more convinced that LSA is a very weak substance.

[orison319]

idk, imo.. the extractions are a waste of time... enough seed mashed and you get fucked up. sick I dont get, shits I do.. 800 seed start off. munch handful more and then another.. Eat food, be merry, get modivated and spin... native indians didnt measure the way we do.. 800.. pttf. handfulls mash eat whole chew.. be a animal.
be more than human and youll evolve......
if I handed you a giant marijuana bud and I said eat it would you pull up a scale?
Dinosaurs have scales, so do lizards. If I said eat it and you just weighed out a 1/8 thats just lame....
sure theres a measurement to things but imo your measuring BS Intoxicants that can be eaten and eaten till the body say ok thats enough Im fucked up now.....

[Severely stoned]

That's a really good point and sometimes taking a fuck load is the only way. The only thing about that is ergot poisoning and potinatal of OD. I know you would need to eat over 5,000 seeds to get close to an OD but better safe than sorry. Know your substance know your dose?

[orison319]

yes, Id be careful.. I had eaten many once and I was so numb and in the chair, that my legs and shit fell aleep and I felt like I was never gona move again.. So it fucked with my head a bit.. sort of made me feel paralyzed and paranoid.. Flushing feeling and visual changes..
you do have to eat alot of them... And if your taking other psychedelics your mind might already be tweeked out and cant catch the trip cause it is weak, it does take a bit of concentration on your part...

[Severely stoned]

It's not worth any experince to be paryized from the waist down for any period of time :). I think im dont with MGS personally. Unsafe doses or no tripping. Just not a fair trade.

[orison319]

I can usually harvest lots of em.. but dont thinks I will this year, its realy bad for growing anything... just a few spotting of HBmg ive seen. even false ones are not blooming?
I do some mg in the spring and then get cid in the summer, shrooms in the fall. IDk. works out that way..
Have Cid now but got some personal Gf problems so I have to chill. wTF, bitches.

Much better off growing shrooms.. Ive done it I just dont do it now. I have enough other stuff. LOl.. got a few friends that grow shooms and never run out of em..
I get carried aways a bit with the trippy drugs.. use moderately.

[klondike_bar]

I dont think its placebo at all. Its not an otherworldly trip either.

my best experiences can best be described as feeling a 3X better than normal weed high, filled with constant smiling and euphoria. very little couchlock or negative symptoms (except mild nausea). also at 350 seeds, a very slight, almost indistingishable visual alterations on patterned surfaces

[Severely stoned]

There was a lot of euphoria the first time i did mgs too, but once again that was the same time I smoked weed with them. 0 euphoria on a 1100 seeds trip without weed.

[klondike_bar]

i believe that it works very well with weed, and is maybe a relatively weak drug on its own.

either way, my high at the time was not just a regular weed high. it was noticably much, more more and remained at its peak for several hours

[moomooman]

im gunna have to agree and disagree with this one. i agree because sometimes the high is more of a background thing, where i'll get a cool little head change and start to slightly see rainbows over surfaces which gets stronger with weed. and sometimes it gives just a sort of boost to my mood, kinda like a more cleaner version of what i think speed should feel like. i dont know how to explain it. but then other times off of the same amount of material i'll get a very intense trip. like for instance, the first time i did it, at first i thought it wasnt guna work and started to go to sleep. then i started feeling it in my muscles first, and my groin area. i started getting a real horny feeling, and couldnt stop moving on my bed. so i got up and definately was feeling it, but as soon as i got up this intense naseau just came over me and i headed straight for my restroom and vommited so hard core. but then after that it kicked up another notch. i knew i needed weed for it to be all it could be, and to really get the most out of it, it felt like i needed salvia. but i had resins, so i smoked that. i had closed eye visuals and everything, had that feeling where it felt like the universe was revealing secrets to me, it was one of the most intense trips i ever had, full blown. but then another time i had an equally intense trip, only in another way. this time it was heavy, and i mean heavy heavy sedation, with a strobe light effect in my vision, and it was more of an intense drugged out feeling than a psychedelic one. it also took a long time to peak out that time. just like two other times when it was intense. once when i thought i didnt even eat enough for it to be how it was cause it took a clean 3 hours to actually turn from a head change/that placebo feeling to what it turned into, but i swear it felt like a natural and more cleaner version of exstacy. i mean i was totally rolling. and the other time it took long to peak out was probably because i ended up stacking my dose. i had at first eaten about 4 or 500 and had that clean head change feeling which i like to describe as the alien version of speed or meth. then i ate another about 3 or 400. i was drinking a beer, which for me i can handle just one 32 in any situation, so nothing out of the ordinary. but while i was drinking it my other seeds started kicking in, real hard. i was having open eyed visuals this time, and not the faint rainbows that pop up like the less intense times. im talking patterns on the floor, seeing dead faces in things, and i was extremely euphoric as well. when i went to check my pupils in the mirror, just for fun cause they tend to dialate on any dose of morning glory, my face started morphing in the mirror. i was trippin out. it was the most intense trip in respect to the amount of hallucinating i was experiencing, 2nd in respect to the amount of euphoria, but it still wasnt like the first time when the universe was telling me some of its secrets. no revelations came to me. i mean yeah on all the other experiences it gets me thinking in that different way where my thoughts are more insightful and what not, but on none of the other times has the universe talked to me like the first time, those werent my thoughts that time, rather it felt like someone was showing me things. so thats why i agree and disagree. you gotta remember that its actually not lsa, but a cocktail of lysergic amides, and i think thats why its effects are so unpredictable and varied. on a side note, i used to kind of binge on it sometimes, low doses as a sort of anti depressant/mood lifter. i dont recomend this because i got sick after doing it like this.

[CircaX43521]

I think there just coming in waves for you. Last time I did them I did a CWE of 300 seeds. It hit me really hard for a little while, then it calmed down, and the nausea came back. I smoked a bowl of some decent middies and it kicked right back in again, then I would trip for about 10-20 minutes, and then it would slow down for about 5-10 minutes. But I smoked weed continously throughout the trip. I smoked two bowls throughout the night, but I only smoked when the nausea kicked in.

That was a very different trip. I spent most of the time listening to music surrounded by blankets. I had two friends with me, but they both fell asleep right after the trip started. So I was alone for most of the trip.

I can't really say it was that intense, it just felt like a different weed high.

[klondike_bar]

I can't really say it was that intense, it just felt like a different weed high.

i totally agree. its almost like either the perfect kind of weed high, or a very mild dose of shrooms on top of weed

[Severely stoned]

I can agree with that.
LSA + weed = Good.
But LSA alone = zero.

[pushit]

I don't think so man, I tripped for 17 hours after taking 1000+ seeds.

[Gratefully Dawg]

why dont you guys try woodrose sometime. If you get the quality ones you only need 8 to 10 for pretty fucking strong effects. i personally like 6. any more gives me a come up thats too exhillarating, too much like acid.

[Gratefully Dawg]

^and you dont need weed.

[Severely stoned]

I don't think so man, I tripped for 17 hours after taking 1000+ seeds.

I tripped for about 2 hours on 1100 seeds. Then there was nothing.

[wutthe4k]

man i feel bad for you guys. i've never not gotten effects from MG's except for the first time because they were the wrong type of seeds. i've used different methods of ingestion and some were better than others obviously...but imo, it's potent shit if used correctly.

edit: and using ancientpowers' extraction method is the easiest and the best. no cramping and little to no nausea. truly a joyful and euphoric trip.



observe:

Morning Glories or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose
1. Take your powder and put into a small cup or jar and add some lemon juice. not alot just a ounce or 2 max. enough to cover your seeds.
2. Let it stand for no more or less than 30 min. swirl the potion around throughout the soak. If you dont believe me then get sick and ruin your batch. I dont really care. Thats not true cause if I didnt I wouldnt share my secrets.
3. Add some juice or water. just a few ounces maybe 3. just enough to make a shot. Swirl it around one last time. put your reusable coffee filter inside your measuring cup. it will fit like a glove. then strain through the filter. You will need to stir with a spoon until the juice has filtered through.
4. The resulting cloudy liquid will taste no worse than anything. Think of a shot of your favorite liquor and think its 100x times less than that. Give it 45 min and your off. NO NAUSEA, NO FISH VISION!! A little cramping but very little and a million times less than eating seeds. Very clear and natural. Definetly lysergic feeling. Day tripping with seeds has so far been my best trip. I have kicked it at home when i first discovered this. But Its a drug that needs some enviromental stimuli.

Any other method of ingestion is not recommended. Any other extraction tek is not recommended. You can use vodka, everclear, water, vodka, lemon or lime juice have been the best. I prefer lemon juice unless you are making tincture.
So far I am the only hip forums guy that even trips with this method. Every other method is some shaky heard about before but dont really know type thing. Its your guys money, seeds, time, trip, and body. do what you want with it. lets start trippin and talk about the effect. I can only trip and try so much stuff out on my own. Unless you all have the time to wait for me to do it for you. then patience to you.
I tried everclear and it worked too. If you guys want your extract powder so bad. Use the method above but use everclear instead and do not add any excess before the strain. the evap. I havent done it but everclear evaps so fast. MY everclear was only 75% ethanol so once that goes you got to wait on the H2O to go. I would use the everclear to make a tincture because I could just evap down to the dosage level I wanted and just drop some in my drinks.

[pushit]

I tripped for about 2 hours on 1100 seeds. Then there was nothing.
Thats weird, mine was very long and somewhat intense.

[Severely stoned]

I'd like to find some legit LSA, in whatever form fuck these MGS and shit.