datura the fuckng the devil

[el che]

ok

so i ve seen that there are quite a substantiol amount of people interested in this plant and not many seem to have taken it

well im here to tell of my experience and warn people

this stuff is truely a demon

my ex girl had a datura plant in her backyard and had no idea whta it was

several people i had known told about it and i had once before smoked a bit of ot. so we got some of the leaves one night that i was going to sleep over and made the brew.

we thoguht i would be cool to get really fucked up then fuck.

ive tried lsa lsd mdma meth crack weed speed slavia heroine and many many other crazy fucking drugs some of the only ones i havent tried are dmt(very hard to find and make) coke and ibogaine and after all of these drugs that one that brought to my knees to beg and beg for fucking death was that twited fucking jimson weed.

made the brew

sat in a room with a friend stiing us ( the friend was supposed to leave when we were going to have sex)
we didn't get that far
after the brew containing 2 flowers and 3 leaves was drunk we waited like 3 mi nutes to see the affects
we told our friend to leave because we were going to have sex and she did
after about and hour of attempting sex in an "extrem drunk state" we gave up and called our friend up

by the way when i say extrem drunk i mean like o motor control no talking capability and almost complet blindness

we sat and attempted to have a conversation but my words were flowing out off me like water under pressure

very high speed and abslotly no coherence

i recorded the converstioan and the last thing i said on it before i ateempted to eat and in the progress destroed the tape recorder was "we are you... you mother fuckers fucker fuckers fuckers!!!" i have te tape and everytime i hear i was to fucking die

after the destoying of the tape recorder
i ad many conversationswith people that seam to pour into the room or rather morph from person to person

my mom my dad my 2nd graed teacher
ex girlfriends and such

i talked to an old girfriend i never gotover for what seemed like and hour and suddenly she threw me on the grown and she morphed into my current girlfriend

she got angry atbsomething i had said and went completly phsyco

i sat down stund closed my eyes and i was in a cave and an old woman was talking to me about the spirit of the devil plant

i was smoking a ciggaret(which was bizzar because i don't smoke) dropped it and we to look for it

when i realized o my god i don't fucking smoke i looked up and i was on the front lawn and i sat and watched the scenray change flwalessly from a room to a cave to a ruin

this whole time i felt completly lonely and empty

at one point i remeber getting up to find the house completly empty i feel and cried

i felt alone

i feltdead

thats it

i was dead and in hell

i do beleive that my mind snapped that day

when i came to it was 2 days later than i thoguht

thats all i remebered but the after math of our trip was insane

the tv was on the ground with bread aranged on a circle ontop of it

there was cat food every were (apperently i ate some)

a bong was shattered on the kitchen floor with all the peaces in a piel

a cat ran away

one of the stove tops was on

our friend left

and i hated everything for several weeks

te friend never forgave me for something i did

never quite figured out what it was i did and she didn't want to say

my girl left me(which was actually a good thing i didn't like her much)

i still have wiered fucking visuals

this experience also pussed me close to suiside

a week later i tried to jump of a parking lot we were smoking on got depressed and ran for the edge of the lot as i was getting close i saw the old women in the cave

a friend stopped me thnkfully

unlike many many phycodelics there was no truth not realization no insight no posives to the intence trip

for months after word i felt dead and empty and wanted to die

its been about two years and i am alot better

my vision never got back to normal

i daydream

lose myself

and sometimes completly dissaparre at random

horrible drug

so thats what happend to me

excluding some terrible details i don't want to go into for mysake

i hate recalling that tail

so yeah to sum it up

very disturbing

very intes

no posetive

mmade me suasidle(not anymore ;))

so while your in orbit be careful what your fule is

peace:)

[-beatnick]

yea, i hear datura is bad craziness. i wonder if hunter s thompson ever tried it, although i know the attorney said he had some.

[st. stephen]

^i remember when he was running for sheriff somebody asked him bout his drug use and he said something along the lines of, i dont do needle drugs and i wont eat jimson weed on the job.

and to the op i didnt read your whole post, cause its a story ive heard (and experienced) time and time again, but no matter how many times u here the story words cant convey how inanely scary and frightening datura can be.

[el che]

thats the truth man the stuff is undescribably crazy

[neodude1212]

the tv was on the ground with bread aranged on a circle ontop of it




a cat ran away



^ lol

[el che]

yeah man it sounds funny

but amgine waking up feeling compltly drunk and basily blind an trpping over a tv with a perfect bread circle on it

that was so scary man

but yeah in retrospect it is kind of amuzing

[Severely stoned]

Fuck that sounds terrable, ill never touch that shit ever. Sucks about ur bong too o.O

[PeaceAndRasta]

how do u use this plant?
if u take a little, will it be straight?
cause i just found this plant in someones garden... and im thinkin of trying it

[pedaltopedal]

how do u use this plant?
if u take a little, will it be straight?
cause i just found this plant in someones garden... and im thinkin of trying it

Go to erowid and read some more reports about this plant and seriously reconsider your desire to try it. Seriously. There are some absolute horror stories out there related to datura use.

The delirium is causes is not pleasant... actually it sucks. It feels horrible. You could do irresponsible or dangerous things while delirious, not understand anything during or remember anything that happened afterwards, and the delirium can last up to 2 or 3 days.

Also, you could easily die from overdose from consuming datura. It's deadly if you take too much, and you have no idea how potent any particular plant is.

[el che]

i would not recomend this to anyone at all

and the amount and shit is undeterminable

i made atea of one plant felt nothing a few weeks later

same fucking plant

same fucking amount and my world shattered

yeah i was stupid enought to try this shit several times man

never the same

be careful out there

and yeah man i was so sad about that bong

i was a huge mushroom shapped bong my friend made for me

he was a glass blower


peace

[strat]

I was thinking about smoking it once, but this is the last thing needed to convince me not to. I'll never touch this.

[PeaceAndRasta]

thanks for convincing me not to...

[Severely stoned]

P&R don't do it. Please. Lol it sounds way too fucked up to try it even alittle :o.

[PeaceAndRasta]

P&R don't do it. Please. Lol it sounds way too fucked up to try it even alittle :o.

ya, i read about it a little, and its fucked up! it just makes u lose your mind for a couple days, and u go crazy!

but im willing to try mg seeds :p

[klondike_bar]

just because its legal and you may know where it grows locally, doesnt mean that you should screw around with it.

it is not a hallucinogen, it is a deliriant. there is a difference so vast it is unsettleing

[el che]

yay im cgald i convinced some ppl not to do thsi shit:)

your very welcome p&R

:)

peace and love to you all

and by the way

P&R definetly try mgs

they are amazing when prepared correctly

very natural and personal trip

when you try it i hope you their eye opens

peace

[neodude1212]

yeah man it sounds funny

but amgine waking up feeling compltly drunk and basily blind an trpping over a tv with a perfect bread circle on it

that was so scary man

but yeah in retrospect it is kind of amuzing


I think this is one of those drugs that just sound SO crazy, that ppl think they just HAVE to try it.

Parts of your story definatly sounded amusing, the bread part had me laughing kinda loud. And how the cat dipped out. Cats are pretty shady, so for a cat to run away you guys must have been acting REALLY shady.

I probably wont ever touch it. I've never heard of anyone having a good time on it. You would think that there would be some sort of lesson that you could walk away with, other than, "never do this again"

[el che]

no i was surprised that i got absolutly 0 insight from such an in tence trip

actually i wouldnt call it a trip it's just going completly insae for a whiel

but as i was saying no insight what so ever

in retrospect the bread was kind of funny

:)

peace

[neodude1212]

no i was surprised that i got absolutly 0 insight from such an in tence trip

actually i wouldnt call it a trip it's just going completly insae for a whiel

but as i was saying no insight what so ever

in retrospect the bread was kind of funny

:)

peace


haha I would pay to know what the hell you were thinking when you were putting bread on the TV. :D

so what is it like coming down from this stuff? a feeling of "holy shit I was just insane"?

[el che]

not really it was like an intese suer hangover with a hate for everyone and evrything and a feeling of wow i don't remeber this or that or that or that and yes a bit O MY FUCKING GOD I WENT INSANE

man thsi was several months ago and i would consider myself still coming down

i honestly dont think ill ever get don from that experience

visions not right

its very hard for me to type corectly because the letters sometimes move on me

my thoughts are completly scattered and a lot of the time i have this horrid feeling that i and my life are not real or significant

that i am just siitting on a coutch on gthe back of my head watching the helerious comedie that is my life

creepy shit

and yeah i wis i could what the fuck i was thinking when i put the bread on the tv

i remebr sitting on it(its a big big tv) and thinking that i needed to dosomethignthta would make it work again

and then i blacked out

i guess i tried to make it work by putting a bread irle on it:)

that stuff is blah

hahaha

peace

[moomooman]

to the guy who said he was thinking about smoking it, dont do it. not because you'll go insane, it just basically has no effect when smoked. it does taste kinda good though, im not gunna lie, and is a good additive to cut back on weed. and as for drinking it in a tea, if you really want just a taste of what datura is, and only if you really want to, and only if your really familiar with your mind, ill tell you what to do. but remember, just like white lines, dont dont dont do it do it do it. get one leaf, if its kinda big rip it in half. boil some water, enough to fill a regular size coffe mug. put the leaf in the cup, pour the hot water, not necessarily boiling water, over the leaf and let the water cool down. this is where you have to make sure your as careful and exact as possible. look at the color of the tea, to get just a taste of datura dont sip anything if the teas color came out anything darker than a light yellow-green. if it did, sip it at your own discretion, taking just sips mind you. but if you got a light colored tea dont think that means its safe to drink it all. take one small drink and just chill. see what happens and maybe take another drink. dont finish it. you might not feel anything, but this is how you find out how you react to it for future experiments. remember i definetaly dont recomend anybody do this unless you think you know whats on the up and up. i used to sip it for allergies, which is does work for, but like i said you gotta know what your doing. i never would finish it when using it for this purpose. one cup was enough to last a few days, as in i would sip a little here and there. and only of the lightest tea i could brew.

on a side note, id like to relate to this and a lot of the time i have this horrid feeling that i and my life are not real or significant
i would get this same feeling when i used to do a lot of benadryl. well not like a lot a lot, just up to about 200 mgs a day spread out, sometimes more, sometimes none. (the after effects can be felt clean into the next day sometimes for me even at medicinal doses, so i would skip days when i felt it necessary.) i would get this feeling like our real life is all a dream and that no one knows this except those of us who have seen, and that we're really all dead but dont know it and have been tricked into thinking we're alive. its hard to explain but it was a feeling that made me feel depressed but at the same time the happiest ive ever been because it made me realize that nothing really matters, because really, we are all just living inside our own heads. i dont know.

[Hippified_RCer]

this is one of those things i feel i need to try at some point in my life. i have been cultivating datura inoxia for a couple years now in my grandparents garden waiting for the right summer to experiment. out of all the bad ive heard a few good things too mostly jus harmless comedy of sitters.

[klondike_bar]

it seems like a very dangerous drug, and i personally would avoid it. (i got interested once, but reading the reports made me realise the potentially of such a plant)

[moomooman]

datura inoxia is the kind im familiar with cause its the most prominent one in my area. personally, ive never used it to trip off of, only for medicinal uses and, i guess, spiritual reasons. ive "tripped" off diphenhydramine before and thats enough for me. daturas effects are much more prolonged and intense at doses that make you trip. i dont use the plant that way, but if you are start off with small amounts and work up, but not in the course of one day. take a small set amount and no more the first time you try, then wait a week or so before trying again with a little more if it didnt work the first time. be careful, its a tool, not a toy, a powertool even at that.

[FritzDaKat]

be careful, its a tool, not a toy, a powertool even at that.

:hurray:


I think thats the big unfortunate of it really, this consumer driven society tends to think it can make everything "its own" like Maria Sabina with her Mushrooms, once out of the hands of those who respect it for it's designed purpose and try using it like a substitute for Ice cream :willy_nilly: , then sometimes they get offended and feel the need to demonize it when it didn't do what they wanted it to for them, if that makes sense to anyone (I hope).

I mean even LSD can be a Power tool when you take an excessive dose of 50 or more hits.

I will now happily sit back and wait patiently as my "Delaware Sacred Nicotina" and my D. Wrightii seeds germinate. Hoping to have something ready for Samhain. :)

My plan,
Step 1: Hold a leaf against my skin to ensure I have no major allergies to this plant.
Step 2: Mix a small portion of one leaf with some natural tobacco in a 95:5 ratio favoring tobacco. ( Mabey 90:10 )
Step 3: Slowly smoke a small quantity of the mix in a quiet, natural environment condusive to medetation.
We'll see how this goes.

To the O.P, you mention being on a couch in the back of your head. According to many philosophies this is the right way to see things as we are not our bodies or our concious ego driven personalities.

Perhaps A Dangerous Book (http://www.scribd.com/doc/4000379/A-Dangerous-Book) can help you gain a little perspective on this. Not suggesting you run and embrace this full philosophy, but at least take a look into it and mabey do better at "coming to terms" with your new perspective on existance?? :cheers2:

[moomooman]

datura and tobacco mixed is nice sometimes. but id go straight 50/50, or 75/25, the larger portion being datura. but thats because i cant smoke that much tobacco without getting sick. i think of that mix as kinda sacred cause they're related plants and their effects are like opposites of each other. one stimulating one of the acetylcholine receptors, and the other depressing the other acetylcholine receptors. they should cancel out each others negative side effects, for instance datura being an antiemetic and tobacco causing nausea. but they could also team up on you in a bad way too i suppose.

[infinito]

how do u use this plant?
if u take a little, will it be straight?
cause i just found this plant in someones garden... and im thinkin of trying it

Just to let you know, you CAN'T just take a little bit. The overdose dose and the dose that causes effects are almost exactly the same. That's what's so dangerous. And a lot of the time you drink too much because it takes awhile for the effects to start. That's probably what happened to this guy. This is not a fun drug. It's very dangerous.

[FritzDaKat]

Yea, I was aiming for heavy on Tobacco due to my smoking Drum RYO, about a pouch a day. Thou I still need to sample the Delaware Sacred, it wont be cured by then but I'll at least have it dry. Ontop of which I haven't done any variety since 94' and this being my first with Wrightii,,, I shake my dice with care ;)

[l20xx0125]

I actually want to do this drug now.....

[FritzDaKat]

I actually want to do this drug now.....

Be careful, use more discression than you've ever used in your life, this is not a substitute for Pot. Do the skin test first and foremost to show if you do indeed have a natural allergy to the toxins present (Rub a leaf / dab a drop of juice and rub it gently on your skin to see if you develop some sort of severe rash which would indicate a strong allergy) I think MooMooMan's suggestion on the tea is an excelent idea once you know the tea wont close your throat or shut down your respiratory system (Severe allergic reaction)

Good luck.

My Wrightii seeds are still germinating :( But I've gotten a single Delaware Sacred to sprout (I think the others "soaked in" too deep when I watered.