Spice Gold or CIA test chemical?

[Jay_Billionz]

I find this so strange about spice gold number 1 it is almost exactly like weed as people say, and also it completely legal and popped out of nowhere. Be really do we actually know what's in this stuff that popped out of nowhere? I mean they say it has Baybean, Blue Lotus, Dwarf Scullcap, Indian Warrior, Lion's tail, Maconha Brava, Marshmallow, Pink Lotus, Red Clover, Rose, Siberian Motherwort, Vanilla, honey....

Or is that what they want us to believe? See these are legal herbs that people barley feel anything (if they feel anything at all) off of. But all the sudden they mix them and now you have a almost identical pot high? No way I think thats bullshit. I think someone should try to combine this mixture of herbs and see if they get the same effects, because something is really fishy about spice gold to me, and I wonder if anyone has these same feelings...I'm not a goverment conspiracy psyhco, but something isn't right about spice gold.........something just isn't right......


have you found an alternative,or are you just a guinea pig playing russian roulette with your mind.......

[HauntedGraffiti]

It obviously doesn't work as good as weed, but a lot of those ingrediants do have some druglike effects. If you want to try weed alternative then do spice gold i heard its a lot better than any other, but not even close to weed. Oh, and DO NOT ORDER FROM MONSTER SMOKE SHOP, their shit burns, smells like hay, and just makes you sick.

[SonnyPizzicato]

I find this so strange about spice gold number 1 it is almost exactly like weed as people say, and also it completely legal and popped out of nowhere. Be really do we actually know what's in this stuff that popped out of nowhere? I mean they say it has Baybean, Blue Lotus, Dwarf Scullcap, Indian Warrior, Lion's tail, Maconha Brava, Marshmallow, Pink Lotus, Red Clover, Rose, Siberian Motherwort, Vanilla, honey....

Or is that what they want us to believe? See these are legal herbs that people barley feel anything (if they feel anything at all) off of. But all the sudden they mix them and now you have a almost identical pot high? No way I think thats bullshit. I think someone should try to combine this mixture of herbs and see if they get the same effects, because something is really fishy about spice gold to me, and I wonder if anyone has these same feelings...I'm not a goverment conspiracy psyhco, but something isn't right about spice gold.........something just isn't right......


have you found an alternative,or are you just a guinea pig playing russian roulette with your mind.......

No. Just no. I have been smoking this shit for like 3 years. It didn't just pop up. But you are right in the fact that some people think theres synthetic shit in Spice, but baybean is pretty powerful.

[Willy_Wonka_27]

it does feel similar to weed and there are many other products not made by the spice company that work the same and much better.

[SonnyPizzicato]

it does feel similar to weed and there are many other products not made by the spice company that work the same and much better.

Like chillin xxx...right?

[Willy_Wonka_27]

chillin is stronger, but that product seems scetchy at times like with the second batch.

i was thinking like red planet and gold star, etc.

[Geneity]

Saying Spice Gold has some 'test chemical' in it is ridiculous. Those herbs are weak on their own but together can produce that type of high. Ever heard of "The sum is greater than all its parts"? Chemistry is a place where you'll see it a lot....

[Jay_Billionz]

^^well how about you prove us wrong... buy all those herbs put them together and lets see the outcome.. I want visual proof...everyone knows there's something fishy about spice gold...

[Geneity]

Someone right here on the forums has done it. Not sure who it was. Besides, it's nearly impossible to find all those herbs individually online, let alone know the ratios and extracts they used.

[Jay_Billionz]

exactly so how can you know?... You don't know...

[Mrs.K]

exactly so how can you know?... You don't know...

now you're sounding suspect... why don't you try blending it?...:cool:

[stalk]

All the pharma pills people guzzle are government test chemicals...

their experiments are everywhere, brothers and sisters.

I don't know about spice gold...but I would not doubt it.

[PsychedeliaSmith]

Spice Gold is not a government experiment, lol.

The herbs in the blend aren't what get you high, they're sprayed in chemicals that aren't listed on the ingredients list.

[stalk]

right. where do those chemicals come from?

[krewskater]

OK guys, Spice has existed for a few years, then another manufacturer found out "what makes it work" and from there it spread, but all these blend manufacturers keep it secret for "trade reasons". Notice how many sites say "May contain the following" rather than "This blend contains". This is because none of the vendors actually know what's in it. And MANY people have tried combining the ingredients in different extractions and quantities with nothing close to the long-lasting, hard-hitting high you can get off of just a few pulls of spice gold. By this I mean they've tried many combinations of herbs/extracts of these herbs listed without getting the same effects. It's not a CIA test chemical, my bets are on synthetic RC or just "sprayed" with a very strong extract of an herb with no previous research done on its effects (therefore having questionable safety, just as an RC would).

After all of the different lab tests people have tried on spice/spice gold that were inconclusive I'd say it'll be awhile before anyone finds the "key ingredient" and releases it to the public. I doubt anyone that manufactures them is going to tell us anytime soon. They know that we want to know what makes these blends so strong, which is probably the reason for the long ingredients list, making it hard to isolate one key compound on a GC/MS.

[Euphorial]

Well, I just ordered some today :cheers2:

[DerrtyJake]

It's a blend of herbal extracts not just herbs. You could get an extract of something like Dagga or Sinuichi and feel a nice buzz just from it.

[Hippified_RCer]

i know from experience that the blue lotus gives a high closer to cannabis then any other single herb i have smoked. i actually enjoy blue lotus smoking more so than cannabis. it feels much cleaner. idk i think that extract would b powerful indeed

[Geneity]

^ Oh? What sort of lotus are you smoking? As in pedals, or paste extract or what?

[krewskater]

If you talk to people in Europe where the legal high market has existed for several years they all believe that the ingredients list is false. Several countries have performed tests and have not found even the slightest traces of some of the actives that would be found in extracts or raw herbs of many of the ingredients. There's a thread at GT going on right now discussing this.

And none of the herbs listed, even in extracts and different ratios would get you very very high for several hours after just one bowl or less in some cases.

By the way, the CIA thing is out-of-the-question considering it originated in europe and it took time and work to finally get a vendor in america who could start selling it. The manufacturer's sales policy actually prevents any vendors from selling it to or within the US because of it's questionable legality there (which they address on their site with a couple lines just saying that it may/may not be legal in the US so it shouldn't be shipped there).

[pandaman]

If you talk to people in Europe where the legal high market has existed for several years they all believe that the ingredients list is false. Several countries have performed tests and have not found even the slightest traces of some of the actives that would be found in extracts or raw herbs of many of the ingredients. There's a thread at GT going on right now discussing this.

And none of the herbs listed, even in extracts and different ratios would get you very very high for several hours after just one bowl or less in some cases.

By the way, the CIA thing is out-of-the-question considering it originated in europe and it took time and work to finally get a vendor in america who could start selling it. The manufacturer's sales policy actually prevents any vendors from selling it to or within the US because of it's questionable legality there (which they address on their site with a couple lines just saying that it may/may not be legal in the US so it shouldn't be shipped there).

You have a link to the thread at GT?

Thanks

[Hippified_RCer]

out west i was gettn the petals for $20 an ounce lol at one of the online ethno shops theres a sale on a kilo for 100 haha. but i realy enjoy the high its great with mushies too
^ Oh? What sort of lotus are you smoking? As in pedals, or paste extract or what?

[Geneity]

I'll have to look into it. I've tried a lot of entheogens but when I look back on it I wasn't really giving any of them a chance. I think maybe somg bong hits of lotus may be worth it. It's cheap enough, especially compared to freakin' Spice and Galaxy Blends

[Hippified_RCer]

yea check out BBB and pick some up. i also recommend kava kava. it felt pretty similar

[Geneity]

Eh Kava was alright. I had too high expectations for it though. It was nice I will admit. Like being a little buzzed from alcohol.

[Hippified_RCer]

wel idk if the kava is legit from fiji on bbb but my friend brought some back that she got from a tribal leader in figi and i felt opiated

[Geneity]

^ I wanna do that =(

[wutthe4k]

sure, the ingredients don't have much of an effect by themselves but the point is that when they're put together they created desired effects. like someone else said "the sum is greater than all it's parts."

take another drug for example say MDMA. now, MDMA is derived from many other chemicals before it's actually created. i'm sure that if you ingest each chemical seperately then most of them will have little to no effect. it's once they are added and synthesized that they create the wonderful drug of ecstasy.