is it safe to snort a watson 387

[gorilla biscuit]

i have one hydrocodone watson 387 pill
id rather snort it than take it
is it safe to crush this thing up and snort it?

[jaredfelix]

haha definetly

[CagedSparrow]

go for it. vicodin was never that awesome for me though

[kil0]

its not gonna kill you, but its not a good idea. Vicodin is cut with acetaminophen, similar to tylenol, and you dont wanna be snorting that shit. If it was a pure hydrocodone pill which I dont think they make, you could snort it no problem. But that acetaminophen is a no no.. trust me, just eat the shit

[CherokeeMist]

kil0 is right, snorting acetaminophen is not a good idea.

You could just swallow it, or parachute it (incase you don't know what that is, just crush up the pill and wrap it in rolling paper/toilet paper, or put the powder in an empty gelcap if you have one, and swallow it.

[NewDeadHeadisaFAG]

yea snorting it is fine. when you have like one pill, taking it wont do anything really, so snorting it will get the most of the pill. but, if you have more than 1, like 15 mg or more of it, then take it, because it will get you way more fucked up

[MeatWagon499]

nothing is really safe..

im no expert, but you should do a cold water extraction to get rid of all the APAP (tylenol) then snort that if your going to do it..

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Dude, what the hell are you idiots telling him to go ahead and snort it for?

The drug you want, Hydrocodone, takes up 7.5mg. The APAP (Tylenol) is 750mg. Do you really want to snort 750mg of tylenol, plus binders and fillers, to only end up getting 7.5mg of the actual drug you want?

It is pointless, and it is just going to hurt your nose. You won't get any higher...Hydrocodone has a pretty high oral bioavailability.

I can't believe this many people think that snorting a pill that big for 7.5mg of Hydrocodone is a good idea...

It's not harmful, it's just stupid as fuck.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

nothing is really safe..

im no expert, but you should do a cold water extraction to get rid of all the APAP (tylenol) then snort that if your going to do it..

Doing a cold water extraction on ONE pill is a complete waste of time. You only have 7.5mg of Hydrocodone to begin with, you are going to lose some in the process, and you can't afford to lose any when you only have 7.5mg. CWE is really only useful if you are taking enough that you start to run into problems with taking TOO much APAP, around the 4 gram mark. Otherwise, just eat the pill.

If you are going to snort it, it's not dangerous, and that amount of tylenol, 750mg, is not dangerous either...it's just going to be stupid to snort it...that is way too much powder.

yea snorting it is fine. when you have like one pill, taking it wont do anything really, so snorting it will get the most of the pill. but, if you have more than 1, like 15 mg or more of it, then take it, because it will get you way more fucked up

What the hell? This post is loaded with false and insanely stupid information/advice.

First of all, why would taking one pill "not do anything really." Do you not understand what bioavailability means? You don't so please don't post false information. Second of all, he will not get the most out of snorting it, he will have a sore nose from snorting so much tylenol, and if he does feel any stronger, it simply will be a placebo effect, because again, hydrocodone has a very high bioavailability.

Lastly, the amount that you have does not make a difference when you are talking in terms of the method of administration. To say that 7.5mg of Hydocodone won't work orally, but will work up the nose better...and then to go on and say that 15mg orally will be better....is just contradicting, stupid, and completely wrong information.

This should be in the opiate forum, because the people over there actually know what they are talking about...

[patHAOomg]

Triple post on accident.

but totally appropriate, U4IA.

you said and covered everything that i would've.

thanks for being the only one who seems to be somewhat informed in this thread, well, besides meatwagon499.

but i do have to agree that a CWE on one pill is as pointless as a football bat.

[jo_k_er_man]

i think everyone was informed.. they just preferred to be assholes about it...

[Feelings Of U4ia]

i think everyone was informed.. they just preferred to be assholes about it...

Who?

[patHAOomg]

yes....

who?

who was informed?

i would like to know the answer to that....

i would say that Kilo, U4IA, Meatwagon499, and myself are the only people in this thread who have given valid and intelligent information.

[The Mushroom Man]

It's just funny that this is a forum about doing drugs, which, like it or not, hurt you in some way or another, and everyone is bitching at each other about "binders and fillers" and "acetaminophen." I know as well as anyone that they are bad for you, but really? C'mon, snorting 1 pill ain't gonna hurt you unless you happen to have like another 2500 mgs of aceta floating around in your system. For reference, don't snort tylenol and binders and fillers are bad (theyre in all pills), but for fucks sake, if you wanna snort it, snort it. People have done worse, just don't get into a habit of snorting it or tell others to do it :D

The Mushroom Man

[Feelings Of U4ia]

It's just funny that this is a forum about doing drugs, which, like it or not, hurt you in some way or another, and everyone is bitching at each other about "binders and fillers" and "acetaminophen." I know as well as anyone that they are bad for you, but really? C'mon, snorting 1 pill ain't gonna hurt you unless you happen to have like another 2500 mgs of aceta floating around in your system. For reference, don't snort tylenol and binders and fillers are bad (theyre in all pills), but for fucks sake, if you wanna snort it, snort it. People have done worse, just don't get into a habit of snorting it or tell others to do it :D

The Mushroom Man

Opiates, if taken safely, do not have near as many of the severe side effects and other health problems that ingesting other drugs do.

People have done worse, sure. But it's pointless to do it, and that is all we are saying. Why waste time chopping up a huge pill, when eating it is going to do the exact same thing, and you don't have to worry about your nose burning off.

Just because we do drugs doesn't mean we are all uneducated idiots, if you are going to do something, do it safely. Apparently this isn't how you think, and I am sorry you don't have common sense.

[patHAOomg]

Apparently this isn't how you think, and I am sorry you don't have common sense.

:smilielol5:

[mephist00]

another way you can do it
crush it up, and pour the crushed pill into a tissue, or paper towel.. wrap it up, and just swallow that with some water. its called parachuting

it will act almost or if not, just as well if you snort it, because all the pill will be released at one time.

good for pills that are harsh to snort

[Feelings Of U4ia]

another way you can do it
crush it up, and pour the crushed pill into a tissue, or paper towel.. wrap it up, and just swallow that with some water. its called parachuting

it will act almost or if not, just as well if you snort it, because all the pill will be released at one time.

good for pills that are harsh to snort

It isn't close to the same effect as snorting it. You will get different results. Parachuting is exactly the same thing as chewing up the pill, all people do it for is to get around the nasty taste of chewing up a pill.

[salmon4me]

Sometimes it's not what you say, but how you say it. I'd prefer bad advice to annoying advice. ;)

[Feelings Of U4ia]

Sometimes it's not what you say, but how you say it. I'd prefer bad advice to annoying advice. ;)

Not sure what you mean or who you are talking to, but saying you prefer bad or wrong advice to correct advice, regardless of how the advice was given and received, is absolutely ridiculous, and very reckless. To each their own though...I will sleep better knowing I took safe advice over wrong information.

[jo_k_er_man]

haha definetly

I'd say that's a good example of sarcasm.. meaning.. informed.. yet giving sarcastic advice..

[The Mushroom Man]

Opiates, if taken safely, do not have near as many of the severe side effects and other health problems that ingesting other drugs do.

People have done worse, sure. But it's pointless to do it, and that is all we are saying. Why waste time chopping up a huge pill, when eating it is going to do the exact same thing, and you don't have to worry about your nose burning off.

Just because we do drugs doesn't mean we are all uneducated idiots, if you are going to do something, do it safely. Apparently this isn't how you think, and I am sorry you don't have common sense.

Dude, I am like the last person that would think we are all uneducated idiots. I know you probably wont waste your time with it, but look at pretty much all of my drug related posts, and you will find that we have pretty similar views on drugs. I really take offense to the fact that you think i am an uneducated idiot because I don't think the same way as you, and that you say I don't have common sense based on maybe 3 of my posts you have seen. I used to type "have fun and be safe" in all of my posts, but it was too laborious. Really, we are all in the same boat, the people who give drug advice here, but people tend to be more apt to follow advice that doesn't come from a jackass, which is what you were coming across as. How would you like it to be essentially a noob (no offense to the OP) and have your polite request for information shot down by a bunch of stuck up fucktards on the internet? Yeah, it's not a good feeling. Just try to be nice to the people who ask, ya know?

Now, let's just put this behind us and hopefully we can help some curious people out as far as drugs are concerned. that is why I am on this forum.

The Mushroom Man

[mephist00]

screw that u4ia :P

parachuting does work fine n dandy..

i have 10/325 perc's, and i def dont snort those..
but i crush 4 or 5 of them, and then swallow, and i feel pretty damn good, like i just did 40mg of oxy ;P

just 4 of those things, is to much to snort :P
sure beats snorting acetaminophen!

[Feelings Of U4ia]

screw that u4ia :P

parachuting does work fine n dandy..

i have 10/325 perc's, and i def dont snort those..
but i crush 4 or 5 of them, and then swallow, and i feel pretty damn good, like i just did 40mg of oxy ;P

just 4 of those things, is to much to snort :P
sure beats snorting acetaminophen!

It works fine, but it's not like snorting them...it's the same thing as chewing them up, you just don't have to taste them. They are absorbed completely different when you snort them.

[salmon4me]

For the record...wasn't talking to anyone specifically. Just some advice for all you advice givers:

If you come across as an A-hole, nobody listens to what you say. That renders your advice useless (or at least unused). :)

[Feelings Of U4ia]

For the record...wasn't talking to anyone specifically. Just some advice for all you advice givers:

If you come across as an A-hole, nobody listens to what you say. That renders your advice useless (or at least unused). :)

If you take advice based on the attitude of the person giving the advice, then you shouldn't be taking any substance, ever.

I don't care if I come off as an asshole when giving advice. I am sick of giving the SAME advice, when people could do a simple google search and find out that it is stupid to snort a pill with loads of tylenol. If someone chooses to take false advice over mine, then that is their problem, and when they end up in the hospital, they can kick themselves in the ass.

Doesn't make a bit of difference to me. It sickens me to know there are THAT many uneducated drug users out there. How hard is it to search something for 20 minutes before you ingest it? Not hard at all, people are just worthless, and lazy. My advice is not for them, my advice is for people who really want to know what is safe or not.

If you have a problem with the way I give advice, then report me, you are a moderator, I am sure you have some pull, right? Get me banned if you don't like it. If I get reprimanded for giving true advice, then this forum isn't for me anyways.

[patHAOomg]

I definitely fucking agree, in every way possible.

I'm starting to think this forum isn't for me, anyway.

apparently, drug users who don't care what they put in their bodies and then tell other users that "it's fine... go ahead. you'll feel great" seem to be welcomed with open arms. and on the flip side, users who KNOW THEIR SHIT and give factual and very intelligent advice are pinned as assholes and given the cold shoulder.

this is fucking retarded if you ask me.

having to say the same thing 6 billion fucking times just pisses me off. what can i say.....? it doesn't mean i'm an asshole.

if people would listen the first time it is said or DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THEIR OWN, then I wouldn't have to repeat myself over and over again.

[patHAOomg]

I just wish people would care more about what they ingest and what they tell inexperienced users. their bad advice can kill someone who doesn't know any better.

KILL

that means they are gone from this world.

they are not coming back.

and that is bad.

[Feelings Of U4ia]

I just wish people would care more about what they ingest and what they tell inexperienced users. their bad advice can kill someone who doesn't know any better.

KILL

that means they are gone from this world.

they are not coming back.

and that is bad.

Hippies don't care, as long as you are nice when you give them information, that makes all the difference.

I bet 75% of people, including me, found this forum by searching opiates on google, and are JUST NOW starting to realize this is Hippyforums...the hip didn't register with me.

[mephist00]

chill guys, its just one thread
but, bad advice is the worst thing you could do.. ive known 2 people died from oxy and alcohol, sucks, but they were sure they would be ok...

i think these forums just need a search button in BOLD lol maybe that would cut down on threads that have the same questions as 50 others..

probably doesnt matter, but i agree personal research is one of the best ways to learn.. you can find just about everything you want on the net, some questions just arent answered though.. and you cant blame people for asking, just to be sure.. because pills can be dangerous if taken improperly, and im sure that is the reason why people will, and will continue to ask repetitive questions.

u4ia:
i know it doesnt work as good as snorting, but any pill that is cut with filler/other meds, id parachute rather then have my nose on fire hehe.. these 10/325 perc's are not to bad to snort actually, but still i parachute em

also: i found these forums while learning how to grow mushrooms :D

[salmon4me]

If you take advice based on the attitude of the person giving the advice, then you shouldn't be taking any substance, ever.

I don't care if I come off as an asshole when giving advice. I am sick of giving the SAME advice, when people could do a simple google search and find out that it is stupid to snort a pill with loads of tylenol. If someone chooses to take false advice over mine, then that is their problem, and when they end up in the hospital, they can kick themselves in the ass.

Doesn't make a bit of difference to me. It sickens me to know there are THAT many uneducated drug users out there. How hard is it to search something for 20 minutes before you ingest it? Not hard at all, people are just worthless, and lazy. My advice is not for them, my advice is for people who really want to know what is safe or not.

If you have a problem with the way I give advice, then report me, you are a moderator, I am sure you have some pull, right? Get me banned if you don't like it. If I get reprimanded for giving true advice, then this forum isn't for me anyways.

So far as I know you haven't broken any forum guidelines. I'm just telling you, that those who come across as ass holes are wasting their breathe. Save yourself the trouble, unless you are just practicing your typing skillz. Or phrase your advice in a way that isn't so condescending. Or keep doing what you are doing...again your not breaking any forum guidelines. These are primarily free speech forums. My job is to keep the illegal stuff out. When I offer advice on how to give advice, that's just me the member, not me the moderator. We can disagree, happens all the time...

[Feelings Of U4ia]

So far as I know you haven't broken any forum guidelines. I'm just telling you, that those who come across as ass holes are wasting their breathe. Save yourself the trouble, unless you are just practicing your typing skillz. Or phrase your advice in a way that isn't so condescending. Or keep doing what you are doing...again your not breaking any forum guidelines. These are primarily free speech forums. My job is to keep the illegal stuff out. When I offer advice on how to give advice, that's just me the member, not me the moderator. We can disagree, happens all the time...

Okay, understood. I just get sick of giving the same advice over and over and over, when I am sure this same advice has been given in over 200 threads, if they simply use the search button...

I am not one to be a search button nazi, I actually hate when people say "UTFSE," but after a while it's just frustrating.