Question about LSD/Acid...

[-_-HitMan-_-]

So I heard that after doing LSD/Acid twice you are technically clinically insane... Now that sounds like a crock of shit to me. I've been interested in LSD but unsure about doing it. My biggest worry is never coming down. Is there any serious negative side effects from doing Acid? What is your guys' opinion of Acid?

[soaringeagle]

ive done hundreds and im saner then ever
some rare ppl experience hppd witch is a perpetually halucinating thing but its rare and some others who have pre existing mental issues can experience a drastic worsening aftr just a single dose but again thats rare

in general its safe when treatted with great respect

but safe should not mean harmless or that you will be completely the same after
it does tend to change you
most believe for the better

the 2 hits and your insane crap is total bs though

[marbchic]

i heard it was 7 times .. ..but i dunno, i've eaten around 300 hits in my life. i have permanent trails, and if i wake up from a whiskey hangover, my carpet moves. those are MY long term effects. everyone's differnet

..it's my fav. drug, but know how to use it.

www.erowid.org -check for info on drugs

[Cerveau]

This gentleman is 102 years old. He is responsible for acid. How does he seem to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCZDwTQtbDk&NR=1

[rygoody]

i really want to start microdosing like hoffman. I think hes onto something with that. Cause LSD does seem to just keep the body feeling cleansed, energetic, aware, in control. And I don't think you need to trip all out to get that effect, just the 20ug like he does. Then reserve DMT and mushrooms for when you really want to fully trip. They seem to be better tools for that anyways... well atleast to me.

[mephist00]

it is not true, you cannot be declared legally insane by ingesting LSD.
the actual Myth is if you take it 7 times, you are legally insane.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth8.shtml

honestly, ive probably dropped cid 50 - 80 times.. i dont really recommend doing that.. but it was availible to me for a while, so i enjoyed it.
some of the most amazing experiences ever though, i will never forget it.

The BEST Trips are based on a few Things:
Mood - Setting - Guide
-make sure you in a good mood..

-make sure you trippin area is clean, comfortable, and have alot of things to look at, such as blacklight posters, and objects, you need good music, some metal is great, techno is sometimes amazing on acid, classic rock, it all sounds different when u r on cid

-the people you know will be the best guide in your trip, to be there to comfort you, and laugh/talk about things comfortably.

-try some different things, chill in the room, listen to some tunes, use the blacklight for a while, then maybe go outside for a minute and stare into the stars, try eating some grapes or somthing, everything is like a new experience on lsd

The after effects.. none really except because it was so readily availible, and then i couldnt get it anymore i kinda went through some withdrawl symptoms, just didnt really wanna do anything but cid for like 2 months.

but since then, ive excelled in guitar, could be considered an advances player now, im currently studying chemistry online, selling some stuff online sometimes.

there are many myths about LSD that are just false statements.. such as taking LSD puts a hole in your brain, or makes your brain bleed, read up on Erowid, its one the best resources available.

[pezareg0od]

Selling what. Maybe im interested?

[MarkW1]

i really want to start microdosing like hoffman. I think hes onto something with that. Cause LSD does seem to just keep the body feeling cleansed, energetic, aware, in control. And I don't think you need to trip all out to get that effect, just the 20ug like he does. Then reserve DMT and mushrooms for when you really want to fully trip. They seem to be better tools for that anyways... well atleast to me.
I agree completely. Let me know how your low-dose experiments go, I hope to be doing the same pretty soon.

[3xi]

in most cases the more lsd that you do the more sane you will be. now, because most of the people around you who have never done lsd are completely insane or brainwashed to the point of dummys, anyone who has done enough lsd to be more sane than most will actually be considered insane by most. the insane consider the sane to be insane - thats just the way it is.


most trippers learn how to keep certain things to themselves or other likeminded folk in order to avoid being thought of as insane by the blind fools. most people consider me to be an intelligent good person, thats because i only show them so much or i only talk about certain things around them.

[ShadyGrove]

Good point 3xi. One of the reasons we use these threads is that we can talk to each other about it. I know in my community there are only a handful of people that are even willing to talk about LSD.

[EnlightenMe]

This should get stickied so ppl will quit asking about it imo...

[SnailPirate]

partly true. many ppl have had bad trips on acid that have permanently fucked with their head. but unless you have any serious medical conditions like skitso(sp?0,etc and you drop acid in a good enviroment,mood,music,etc you should be fine


good luck!

[ShadyGrove]

SnailPirate:many ppl have had bad trips on acid that have permanently fucked with their head

are these all personal accounts?

not an attack or anything, just wanna know if you actually know a bunch of people that have become "permanently" fucked up or if you have just heard that many ppl have become permanently fucked from acid.

don't get me wrong because I beleive that it is possible too. I just don't know of all these people that everyone seems to bring up in LSD conversations that have become permanently fucked in their head.

Is there a statistic of folks that got perma-fucked or something that I've never heard about?

OH AND PLEASE! WE NEED A STICKY THREAD FOR LSD MYTHS!

[LSD ASAP]

I saw one person getting fucked up but he was fucked up before. But after the trip he came back to previous state just with more subjects.
What image you present to the world that's how the world will get you.
I have done it more than 7 times and I love my insanity much more than the one I had before.

[SnailPirate]

yea people who have had previous mental illnesses

i can bring back bad memories, etc.

[Ayzcrava]

If you are already mentally ill or have a history of mental illesses in your family it can be a risk, if you don't however the only real risk is occasional light flashbacks, and if you really fuck up HPPD. Other then that, on the permanent ways.. it doesn't really do any damage.

It might change the way you think but for most people that only really positive. If you're mentally healthy its not really a big risk at all. After 12 trips in less then a year I can only say I've grown as a person, learned things faster, learned to love my life for and for the first time in years i'm doing really, really well with everything, so for me it only made things better.

[elover]

in most cases the more lsd that you do the more sane you will be. now, because most of the people around you who have never done lsd are completely insane or brainwashed to the point of dummys, anyone who has done enough lsd to be more sane than most will actually be considered insane by most. the insane consider the sane to be insane - thats just the way it is.


most trippers learn how to keep certain things to themselves or other likeminded folk in order to avoid being thought of as insane by the blind fools. most people consider me to be an intelligent good person, thats because i only show them so much or i only talk about certain things around them.I love that post for the reason that it goes with my theory that we might as well have never said anything.

[Cerveau]

Good point 3xi. One of the reasons we use these threads is that we can talk to each other about it. I know in my community there are only a handful of people that are even willing to talk about LSD.
Which is TERRIBLE. I have friends who have had absinthe, all sorts of neato stuff. When the topic of acid comes up, even though all of them were fans at one point, don't seem to want to acknowledge it. Acid has such a terrible stigma.

[RELAYER]

Which is TERRIBLE. I have friends who have had absinthe, all sorts of neato stuff. When the topic of acid comes up, even though all of them were fans at one point, don't seem to want to acknowledge it. Acid has such a terrible stigma.
So does God as soon as you mention the idea that She is not a man :)
Namaste

[3xi]

if god exists it is not a man or a woman


god is one, god is everything, god is the energy the surrounds and binds us, god is within us and all around us. god has no body, god has no sex, god is not a creature.

[RELAYER]

if god exists it is not a man or a woman


god is one, god is everything, god is the energy the surrounds and binds us, god is within us and all around us. god has no body, god has no sex, god is not a creature.
:uhoh2:

[sheerwackiness]

if god exists it is not a man or a woman


god is one, god is everything, god is the energy the surrounds and binds us, god is within us and all around us. god has no body, god has no sex, god is not a creature.
If god exists, I just drank her. I'm about to drink another one...:angel:

[3xi]

If god exists, I just drank her. I'm about to drink another one...:angel:
lol... whatever makes you feel better about it! :H

[sheerwackiness]

lol... whatever makes you feel better about it! :H
Feel better about what, son?

[pizzicatofive]

About god, it's not a concept we can understand with much if any depth, so what's the point in trying to figure out or saying we know what this god looks like or is. That's like saying, I can comprehend the universe, time and space in their entirety and here's what it looks like:

But in any case, I think there is propaganda on both sides when it comes to this debate. When it comes to acid, I would take everything you hear with a grain of salt, whether it comes from some self proclaimed acid guru, or some public service announcement. They've both got their own interests in mind. If you eat huge amounts of the stuff, you're going to be a very different person. Hell, if you eat it just once, you're going to be a very different person, it's an unspeakably incredibly profound experience. Whether or not you will go crazy...well, everything in moderation, I say, and you should be fine. Undoubtedly some people go off the deep end, but try it once and you'll see it's not as easy as it sounds to dose yourself to the extreme 24-7. Of course, it wouldn't be farfetched to say IMO that it could only take one really fucked up trip to scramble your head. Weirder shit has happened. You are buying a drug off the street, more or less.

And then comes in to question are these people really insane, just because they aren't how they used to be, or how "normal" people are? I'd say more often than not, no, these people actually are batshit, but weirder shit has happened. And THEN comes in to question, does it really matter how we perceive them, to us they may be completely loony, but in their own heads maybe they've got something. I guess it's a matter of philosophy. Plus, we'll never know. But don't take my word for any of this.

[neodude1212]

if god exists it is not a man or a woman


god is one, god is everything, god is the energy the surrounds and binds us, god is within us and all around us. god has no body, god has no sex, god is not a creature.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj219/neodude1212/fail_png.jpg


I giggled when I posted that.

[3xi]

^^^ not sure if that guy is dead or asleep but whatever it is, i would rather be him than the rest of the blind fools.

[Mr.Writer]

Occasionally soldiers standing in formation for many hours may faint as a result of gravity pulling blood away from their brain and into their legs. Must suck.

[sheerwackiness]

Occasionally soldiers standing in formation for many hours may faint as a result of gravity pulling blood away from their brain and into their legs. Must suck.
I saw it happen to a JHS student while rehearsing the school anthem. They just dragged her back a few feet and kept singing.

3xI, who are these blind fools you're talking about? The other soldiers?

[neodude1212]

Occasionally soldiers standing in formation for many hours may faint as a result of gravity pulling blood away from their brain and into their legs. Must suck.analyze this one.

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj219/neodude1212/FAIL-4.jpg

[lou_reed]

God is a concept by which we measure our pain.. ill say it again God is a concept by which we measure our pain - John Lennon

[ledheadbabe]

well.... I just tried it for the first time yesterday
everyone's right..... make sure you're comfortable wherever you are because otherwise it might get scary
as far as never coming down..... I thought the whole time I was never going to come down.. but I did.
I dont really think there are any bad side effects besides if you have a bad trip, memory loss, and you most likely wont be able to sleep when you're on it.... oh... and realizing how distorted reality actually is and how it can never be fixed is sort of a downer

[ledheadbabe]

Well my friend told me once that a guy he knew through people started thinking he was a glass of orange juice on acid and never stopped... but... I dont know the guy

[Mr.Writer]

That is an urban legend. There are no reported cases of an LSD trip never stopping; your body naturally ejects all of it within a maximum of 4 days, and there are many ways to force an LSD trip to a halt; large dose of vitamins, or tranquilizers.

The only bad thing to happen to people on acid, that is not an urban legend, is that it can cause pre-existent psychological problems to surface, resulting in people "going crazy" (I really dislike pop-psychological lingo, and the sane/insane duality is such crap), or sometimes commiting suicide (although I suspect they often don't even know they are doing it).

Case in point, if I am to believe this, a friend of a friend was having such a good time on acid, and felt so in touch with everything, that he promptly leapt off a bridge and into a highway, because he thought he could fly or something. I think this falls into the category of "pre-existent psychological issues", as thinking you can fly in any context is a little sketchy. It betrays a fundamental lack of touch with reality.

As Bill Hicks put it, why don't these people take off from the ground like birds if they think they can fly?

[Shapeshifter]

I think it all comes to question:
Do you want truth or mercy?

If you want mercy, rather don't take LSD, but if you want truth there will be no problem.

[seejay21]

I dont know that any of us would know what we want until we are presented the question... Even then there is doubt.

[3xi]

I saw it happen to a JHS student while rehearsing the school anthem. They just dragged her back a few feet and kept singing.

3xI, who are these blind fools you're talking about? The other soldiers?any solder is a blind fool

[RELAYER]

any solder is a blind fool
So are most psychedelic drug users and believers in God, but not all of them

[seejay21]

3xi you are wrong [no flame intended]. Sure, many soilders are blind fools but no more blind than the rest.

I would agree that all soldiers are blind when the become soldiers, as nothing can prepare you for the sacrafice of self that you make when you become one.

Soldiers are people too. They feel love and pain just like any of us, and have to face the consequences or rewards of their choices.


To suggest otherwise is pure ignorance.

[RELAYER]

3xi you are wrong [no flame intended]. Sure, many soilders are blind fools but no more blind than the rest.

I would agree that all soldiers are blind when the become soldiers, as nothing can prepare you for the sacrafice of self that you make when you become one.

Soldiers are people too. They feel love and pain just like any of us, and have to face the consequences or rewards of their choices.


To suggest otherwise is pure ignorance.
seejay, theres just no use. Your arguing with someone who quotes himself in his sig

[Mr.Writer]

any solder is a blind foolThen you've never experienced anything worth dying for, and I pity you.

[seejay21]

The pic that neodude posted is hilarious though. I'm sure that the guys to his right and left are laughing their asses off inside because fainting in formation is totally preventable.

---Bend your knees slightly... bounce slightly.. wiggle your toes.. breathe---

[snocbor]

I've done lots of LSD, I'm insaneeeee!!!!!

No, but some people just can't handle the "truth" and land in the loony bin. Just be open minded, smart, relax, and enjoy the ride!

Smoke some bud on the come down or pop a valium to make it smoother.

You'll be alright, don't believe what you hear, only believe what YOU see :)

[3xi]

Then you've never experienced anything worth dying for, and I pity you.soldiers kill!

i know lots of things worth living for. i would not die for my country - i wouldnt mind dying in the name of freedom but that would have nothing to do with canada or the united states unless they are the ones killing me...! people think that fighting for your country is fighting for freedom, i might believe this if we lived in a free country but we dont. soldiers fight and kill for countries and corporate agendas. there is nothing worth killing for.

i sure feel sorry for you.

[3xi]

3xi you are wrong [no flame intended]. Sure, many soilders are blind fools but no more blind than the rest.

I would agree that all soldiers are blind when the become soldiers, as nothing can prepare you for the sacrafice of self that you make when you become one.

Soldiers are people too. They feel love and pain just like any of us, and have to face the consequences or rewards of their choices.


To suggest otherwise is pure ignorance.
did i say that a blind fool would not face consequences?

there is no good reason to kill someone and killing someone because someone else told you to is absolute madness.

[3xi]

seejay, theres just no use. Your arguing with someone who quotes himself in his sig
and what exactly is wrong with that?

do you not like my quote?

does it just piss you off some how?...lol

maybe you think i should aspire to be someone other than myself.

[seejay21]

did i say that a blind fool would not face consequences?

there is no good reason to kill someone and killing someone because someone else told you to is absolute madness.
You're right. That would be madness. But that is not what soldiers do.

I'm sure that there are plenty of folks out there in the world today who could tell you a story how a soldier saved their life, and that they are forever grateful.

The opposite of course would be true, but soliders do good things too, and often make extreme self sacrifice to do so.

[RELAYER]

and what exactly is wrong with that?

do you not like my quote?

does it just piss you off some how?...lol

maybe you think i should aspire to be someone other than myself.
im all that and a dimesack

[sheerwackiness]

soldiers kill!

i know lots of things worth living for. i would not die for my country - i wouldnt mind dying in the name of freedom but that would have nothing to do with canada or the united states unless they are the ones killing me...! people think that fighting for your country is fighting for freedom, i might believe this if we lived in a free country but we dont. soldiers fight and kill for countries and corporate agendas. there is nothing worth killing for.

i sure feel sorry for you.
Hypothetically, would you kill to protect the lives of your family? I think I would. I'm anti-war, but not a pacifist. I think if some paramilitary group invaded my neighborhood, and I saw them dragging my neighbors out of their house, I'd grab a few sticks or something to do battle with the invaders. It would be hard to convince me to join a militant group unless I was sure that my family was in danger. Relayer, didn't Krishna have a friend he went to battle with, Arjuna or something? - SW

[sheerwackiness]

do you not like my quote?


Aspire to write a better quote. Is there like a flashlight within the tunnel? Unless I'm mistaken, you're abusing the metaphor. Tunnels in my neighborhood have lights within them. How about this, 'If you're looking for the light at the end of the tunnel, drive faster!' Or, 'If you're looking for the light at the end of the tunnel, wait.' Or, 'If you've got the time, skip the tunnel and go over the mountain. Mountains are beutiful in Spring' (Autumn for our friends in the southern Hemisphere).

[sheerwackiness]

Oh, and stopping in tunnels is dangerous!

[RELAYER]

Relayer, didn't Krishna have a friend he went to battle with, Arjuna or something? - SW
Yes, the entire Bhagavad Gita is a symbolic portayal of the war we have with ourselves and the soul, told as a war we have on the battlefield. According to Krsna we are all soldiers.

[RELAYER]

Oh, and stopping in tunnels is dangerous!
Yea it's a pretty dumb quote if you ask me

[neodude1212]

Yes, the entire Bhagavad Gita is a symbolic portayal of the war we have with ourselves and the soul, told as a war we have on the battlefield. According to Krsna we are all soldiers.

that sounds like a good read.

[3xi]

Aspire to write a better quote. Is there like a flashlight within the tunnel? Unless I'm mistaken, you're abusing the metaphor. Tunnels in my neighborhood have lights within them. How about this, 'If you're looking for the light at the end of the tunnel, drive faster!' Or, 'If you're looking for the light at the end of the tunnel, wait.' Or, 'If you've got the time, skip the tunnel and go over the mountain. Mountains are beutiful in Spring' (Autumn for our friends in the southern Hemisphere)."abusing the metaphor"... read it again. if you still dont get it stop, open your mind and read again!

when you stop and look within you will realize that there is no tunnel and that the light was within you all along. with so many people in search of a light at the end of the tunnel - so to speak - no one will ever find a light unless they look within.

it is very disappointing to realize that you people can use such a mind expanding substance and remain so fucking dense.

[RELAYER]

I mean seriously 3xi, do you talk like that in real life? "for those of you..." I mean is that the kind of stuff you say?

[neodude1212]

if he does, he probably isn't any stranger to black eyes.

[RELAYER]

"abusing the metaphor"... read it again. if you still dont get it stop, open your mind and read again!

when you stop and look within you will realize that there is no tunnel and that the light was within you all along. with so many people in search of a light at the end of the tunnel - so to speak - no one will ever find a light unless they look within.

it is very disappointing to realize that you people can use such a mind expanding substance and remain so fucking dense.
Which, in the same sense, is getting to the end of a tunnel when you find it within. Whose the dense one now holmes?

[3xi]

I mean seriously 3xi, do you talk like that in real life? "for those of you..." I mean is that the kind of stuff you say?at least i can find something positive to say, that’s a hell of a lot more than anyone can say about you.


you obviously hate me and have to find something negative to say about what ever i have to contribute – never is it nice, too bad you can never make any real sense out of what i have to say.

[3xi]

Which, in the same sense, is getting to the end of a tunnel when you find it within. Whose the dense one now holmes?
did you just agree with my quote after saying it was dumb?

[RELAYER]

did you just agree with my quote after saying it was dumb?
no, i just corrected your incorrect attempt at correcting the inital comment on your quote.

[3xi]

no, i just corrected your incorrect attempt at correcting the inital comment on your quote.
sorry my friend, read it again. you agree with me.

[RELAYER]

sorry my friend, read it again. you agree with me.
that would never happen 3, thats like the earth giving the Sun heat and light

[3xi]

that would never happen
do you think that maybe there is a problem with your outlook???...lol

arent you a little too young to be the moderator of this forum?

[RELAYER]

do you think that maybe there is a problem with your outlook???...lol

arent you a little too young to be the moderator of this forum?
Arent you a little to old to take part in these childish arguments?
Age has nothing to do with anything 3xi, an open minded wise man such as yourself should know this by now. Nevermind the fact that I've been eating acid for as many years as you and am nearly a decade younger

[3xi]

Arent you a little to old to take part in these childish arguments?
probably


Age has nothing to do with anything 3xi,
just keep telling yourself that

[neodude1212]

probably
gasp!


just keep telling yourself that
age really has nothing to do with it man.

[RELAYER]

Whenever you feel compelled to argue with 3xi about anything relevant to anything, just keep in the back of your mind that he publically, via this forum, argued vehemently with his wife because she got a peice of cheese on her sandwhich at a subway, yet is the first to call out my moderating ability and our breaking forum rules.

[Mr.Writer]

seejay, theres just no use. Your arguing with someone who quotes himself in his sigWe can pretty much close the 3xi book now, imo.

I propose an agreement among posters of this board to share my sentiment. The agreement is, to never again reply to a 3xi post. I'm serious. I will be the first to start, and start immediately.

[RELAYER]

We can pretty much close the 3xi book now, imo.

I propose an agreement among posters of this board to share my sentiment. The agreement is, to never again reply to a 3xi post. I'm serious. I will be the first to start, and start immediately.
I applaud your effort my dear brother, and completley understand your suffering in this matter. However I must admit that I've already tried, several times, to follow through with the very same self discipline but have failed miserably. I just cant resist a good joke.

[sheerwackiness]

do you think that maybe there is a problem with your outlook???...lol

arent you a little too young to be the moderator of this forum?
Dude, I'll be 31 next year (like you) and I hope I don't suddenly forget how much there is to learn from people who are both younger and older than me. You're probably feeling a little bit cornered now, so I want to offer you peace and love.

[neodude1212]

Whenever you feel compelled to argue with 3xi about anything relevant to anything, just keep in the back of your mind that he publically, via this forum, argued vehemently with his wife because she got a peice of cheese on her sandwhich at a subway, yet is the first to call out my moderating ability and our breaking forum rules.

damn!

[3xi]

Dude, I'll be 31 next year (like you) and I hope I don't suddenly forget how much there is to learn from people who are both younger and older than me. You're probably feeling a little bit cornered now, so I want to offer you peace and love.never have i said that there is nothing to learn from youth.

i love and respect people of all ages and i understand that everyone has a place in life.

as we can clearly see there are people who are much older but are not very wise. there are also people that are much younger who are very wise, but these are the exceptions. as in most cases, wisdom comes with experience and it is unlikely that someone can gain as much experience in 10 years than another can gain in 20. although i do believe that experimenting with lsd brings experience, i do not believe this is always the case. although it is very possible for relayer to be wise at his age, he continues to demonstrate how childish he really is.

now i am not going to flame and insult to get relayer to stop posting in this forum but i will stand up for myself when he and others can find nothing else to do but attack my character while going way off topic. relayer has done a great job of starting this flame war. i wonder why there are forum guidelines if even the moderator cannot follow them.

many of you are constantly putting words in my mouth or twisting what i say into something totally different. i am literal and to the point, if i don’t say it, i don’t mean it.

now kindly please let us drop this off topic and pointless debate so that we can get back to the real purpose of these forums.

[neodude1212]

I think he's quite funny.


*insert comment about my childish nature*

[Shapeshifter]

Guys what happened with this thread: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=280471

When I joined this forums, the situation was almost like this now and than we went through long way to get to that thread. Just read through it again, feel again those feelings that made you post in that thread!

What is pissing me off is that I never saw bad intention in 3xi's posts, was he right or wrong that is another thing, but his intention was always good. I can not say for all of you guys that you have good intentions towards him. Everybody got right to belive in this or that and that is really personal belief, but I was here when all of us loved each other even if you don't agree on the oppinion. I am afraid that we are "slightly" loosing that and I don't want that to happen. I love you all, no matter how smart or stupid you are, we are all one and that's how it should be. So, please show yourself that you are mature enough and restrain from insults and have a healthy debates with love and respect. If somebody doesn't understand what you are saying, he will not understand that even after insult, so what is the point of it then?
I still check every morning how is everybody here, you are all still my family, but somehow, its not the same like it was before. Lets try to change that please!

Love you all!

[3xi]

:)

[kil0]

yeah I agree with shapeshifter and 3xi, and I understand 3xi's signature. Obviously the guys who were arguing with him over the interpretation of his own quote are straight ignorant. lmao that shit was funny.

anyways, a different way to look at 3xi's sig is like this:

"there is no light at the end of the tunnel, because we're really not in a tunnel we're trapped in a bubble." ~Germaine Williams

That is to say, since we're not in a tunnel but in a bubble, the only place to find the light is from within.

Seriously, I dont know whether Im blessed with the ability to understand philosophical concepts and some people arent, but shit like this to me is pretty self-explanatory. There is no argument here yet I wonder how some of you find something to argue about....

[purity_spring]

Namaste,

LSD is so unbelievably profound and expansive that it will resound throughout your life like a note of sweet relief. During most trips I feel so completely connected to the depth of who and what I am that it feels like each experience lasts an infinitely-long period of time or a full lifetime. It becomes utterly and wholly possible to see human beings for what they really are and why they live the way they do. Intelligent monkeys exchange currency so that they can lead limited lives draped in clothing designed to emit a plain display and a sense of conformity that makes people feel like part of a elite heard. When I take LSD I no longer wish to live this lie and then everything that was and is part of that culture in me, matures with the wisdom of our most pure sensory perception. What do your senses tell you? Why should so many people be forced to live on the street? How dare such amazing intelligent apes with such brilliant minds wage war on each other. It's as if the doors to all of the insane-asylums were unlocked and some of the craziest of the mad ended up in positions of power. That power is what has misled so many potential, poets, artists, hip kindergarten teachers, innovative medical researchers, advanced inventors, community organizers, philanthropists, public speakers, hip writers, profound musicians who may even have a similarly captivating ability as players like Jerry Garcia or John Coltrane who tend to produce medically-provable neurological and bio-mechanical effects--effects which are referred to as "spiritual," by millions of listeners and dancers from around the world. It is because LSD and other chemicals that such artists ever were able to influence and enrich the world the way they have. Most of the cool teachers, professors, artists, writers, scientists and those who practice the most creative aspects of our culture are in some way influenced and effected by what LSD, mushrooms, and marijuana have done to the people of the world. Bless it all and bless all of you beautiful, advanced, monkeys who have been able to wake up from the nightmare of the oppressive societies in which they all came from, only to be blessed with the glorious fragrance of witnessing reality with new eyes--the eyes of bliss and pure human wealth and dignity. You are a free animal who is free to roam the plains of existence or just to live in a city. If you ever want to see the "man behind the curtain" take LSD and then go to a city with your awakened mind. There's nothing like it! Please believe in the nature of your genetic self which developed eyes to see the free sunlight of a free being--not a being who must trade their precious time for money. Let's first, feed each other, clothe each other, provide utilities and housing for one another, and then we will be truly free to work few hours for a few extra luxuries including travel. Let's do this for each other around the world and then we will truly understand LSD. Let's take care of our sweet brothers and sisters and bring back the sacred nature of nature upon our open minds.

[sheerwackiness]

That is to say, since we're not in a tunnel but in a bubble, the only place to find the light is from within.

Seriously, I dont know whether Im blessed with the ability to understand philosophical concepts and some people arent, but shit like this to me is pretty self-explanatory. There is no argument here yet I wonder how some of you find something to argue about....
...except that bubbles are clear and you could find light shining in from the outside.

[kil0]

...except that bubbles are clear and you could find light shining in from the outside.thats the dumbest rebuttal I ever heard.. Come on man, use ur own fuckin brain for once. Whether the bubble is crystal clear or pitch black like the emptiness of space, you will never reach the light because of the "clear shell" or bubble.

I really dont want to start another argument dude but wow, that was dumbest response I ever heard in a philosophical discussion. I bet you didnt even think about that before you wrote it lol.

EDIT: The point is finding the light and reaching it (in reference to the tunnel), not just seeing it through a fuckin clear shell or whatever...

[3xi]

Namaste,

LSD is so unbelievably profound and expansive that it will resound throughout your life like a note of sweet relief. During most trips I feel so completely connected to the depth of who and what I am that it feels like each experience lasts an infinitely-long period of time or a full lifetime. It becomes utterly and wholly possible to see human beings for what they really are and why they live the way they do. Intelligent monkeys exchange currency so that they can lead limited lives draped in clothing designed to emit a plain display and a sense of conformity that makes people feel like part of a elite heard. When I take LSD I no longer wish to live this lie and then everything that was and is part of that culture in me, matures with the wisdom of our most pure sensory perception. What do your senses tell you? Why should so many people be forced to live on the street? How dare such amazing intelligent apes with such brilliant minds wage war on each other. It's as if the doors to all of the insane-asylums were unlocked and some of the craziest of the mad ended up in positions of power. That power is what has misled so many potential, poets, artists, hip kindergarten teachers, innovative medical researchers, advanced inventors, community organizers, philanthropists, public speakers, hip writers, profound musicians who may even have a similarly captivating ability as players like Jerry Garcia or John Coltrane who tend to produce medically-provable neurological and bio-mechanical effects--effects which are referred to as "spiritual," by millions of listeners and dancers from around the world. It is because LSD and other chemicals that such artists ever were able to influence and enrich the world the way they have. Most of the cool teachers, professors, artists, writers, scientists and those who practice the most creative aspects of our culture are in some way influenced and effected by what LSD, mushrooms, and marijuana have done to the people of the world. Bless it all and bless all of you beautiful, advanced, monkeys who have been able to wake up from the nightmare of the oppressive societies in which they all came from, only to be blessed with the glorious fragrance of witnessing reality with new eyes--the eyes of bliss and pure human wealth and dignity. You are a free animal who is free to roam the plains of existence or just to live in a city. If you ever want to see the "man behind the curtain" take LSD and then go to a city with your awakened mind. There's nothing like it! Please believe in the nature of your genetic self which developed eyes to see the free sunlight of a free being--not a being who must trade their precious time for money. Let's first, feed each other, clothe each other, provide utilities and housing for one another, and then we will be truly free to work few hours for a few extra luxuries including travel. Let's do this for each other around the world and then we will truly understand LSD. Let's take care of our sweet brothers and sisters and bring back the sacred nature of nature upon our open minds.
wonderful words :)

[Mr.Writer]

I agree, absolutely beautiful post!

[Shapeshifter]

Namaste,

LSD is so unbelievably profound and expansive that it will resound throughout your life like a note of sweet relief. During most trips I feel so completely connected to the depth of who and what I am that it feels like each experience lasts an infinitely-long period of time or a full lifetime. It becomes utterly and wholly possible to see human beings for what they really are and why they live the way they do. Intelligent monkeys exchange currency so that they can lead limited lives draped in clothing designed to emit a plain display and a sense of conformity that makes people feel like part of a elite heard. When I take LSD I no longer wish to live this lie and then everything that was and is part of that culture in me, matures with the wisdom of our most pure sensory perception. What do your senses tell you? Why should so many people be forced to live on the street? How dare such amazing intelligent apes with such brilliant minds wage war on each other. It's as if the doors to all of the insane-asylums were unlocked and some of the craziest of the mad ended up in positions of power. That power is what has misled so many potential, poets, artists, hip kindergarten teachers, innovative medical researchers, advanced inventors, community organizers, philanthropists, public speakers, hip writers, profound musicians who may even have a similarly captivating ability as players like Jerry Garcia or John Coltrane who tend to produce medically-provable neurological and bio-mechanical effects--effects which are referred to as "spiritual," by millions of listeners and dancers from around the world. It is because LSD and other chemicals that such artists ever were able to influence and enrich the world the way they have. Most of the cool teachers, professors, artists, writers, scientists and those who practice the most creative aspects of our culture are in some way influenced and effected by what LSD, mushrooms, and marijuana have done to the people of the world. Bless it all and bless all of you beautiful, advanced, monkeys who have been able to wake up from the nightmare of the oppressive societies in which they all came from, only to be blessed with the glorious fragrance of witnessing reality with new eyes--the eyes of bliss and pure human wealth and dignity. You are a free animal who is free to roam the plains of existence or just to live in a city. If you ever want to see the "man behind the curtain" take LSD and then go to a city with your awakened mind. There's nothing like it! Please believe in the nature of your genetic self which developed eyes to see the free sunlight of a free being--not a being who must trade their precious time for money. Let's first, feed each other, clothe each other, provide utilities and housing for one another, and then we will be truly free to work few hours for a few extra luxuries including travel. Let's do this for each other around the world and then we will truly understand LSD. Let's take care of our sweet brothers and sisters and bring back the sacred nature of nature upon our open minds.
That is exactly what i was talking about!
Well done man!

"Just go deeper in to the sound, feeling it strong
Spread it on, oh spread it on!"

[PlacidPete]

Namaste,

LSD is so unbelievably profound and expansive that it will resound throughout your life like a note of sweet relief. During most trips I feel so completely connected to the depth of who and what I am that it feels like each experience lasts an infinitely-long period of time or a full lifetime. It becomes utterly and wholly possible to see human beings for what they really are and why they live the way they do. Intelligent monkeys exchange currency so that they can lead limited lives draped in clothing designed to emit a plain display and a sense of conformity that makes people feel like part of a elite heard. When I take LSD I no longer wish to live this lie and then everything that was and is part of that culture in me, matures with the wisdom of our most pure sensory perception. What do your senses tell you? Why should so many people be forced to live on the street? How dare such amazing intelligent apes with such brilliant minds wage war on each other. It's as if the doors to all of the insane-asylums were unlocked and some of the craziest of the mad ended up in positions of power. That power is what has misled so many potential, poets, artists, hip kindergarten teachers, innovative medical researchers, advanced inventors, community organizers, philanthropists, public speakers, hip writers, profound musicians who may even have a similarly captivating ability as players like Jerry Garcia or John Coltrane who tend to produce medically-provable neurological and bio-mechanical effects--effects which are referred to as "spiritual," by millions of listeners and dancers from around the world. It is because LSD and other chemicals that such artists ever were able to influence and enrich the world the way they have. Most of the cool teachers, professors, artists, writers, scientists and those who practice the most creative aspects of our culture are in some way influenced and effected by what LSD, mushrooms, and marijuana have done to the people of the world. Bless it all and bless all of you beautiful, advanced, monkeys who have been able to wake up from the nightmare of the oppressive societies in which they all came from, only to be blessed with the glorious fragrance of witnessing reality with new eyes--the eyes of bliss and pure human wealth and dignity. You are a free animal who is free to roam the plains of existence or just to live in a city. If you ever want to see the "man behind the curtain" take LSD and then go to a city with your awakened mind. There's nothing like it! Please believe in the nature of your genetic self which developed eyes to see the free sunlight of a free being--not a being who must trade their precious time for money. Let's first, feed each other, clothe each other, provide utilities and housing for one another, and then we will be truly free to work few hours for a few extra luxuries including travel. Let's do this for each other around the world and then we will truly understand LSD. Let's take care of our sweet brothers and sisters and bring back the sacred nature of nature upon our open minds. Nice post dude. But what would we be if we were perfectly in tune with our mental, spiritual and bodily functions and knew nothing of the corruption we live in - but when was there ever not corruption, I feel like we are blowing a whistle that few, but increasing, have blew for many many years. I assume all the niceties would be there, but what of money/power/war/corporations/greed; what about the circumstances of existence. What about free energy, I've read conspiracy theories about humans figuring out, whether it was nikola tesla or aliens, the ability to create free energy. What if we lived in a world of peace and harmony with our selves and nature, what would billions of people do? Would society still obsess or simply progress placidly through time. I believe and hope for great things for us as people, but still feel so limited in our overall ability. We as a society are on a path that we dont actually have any control over, we - dont control the world. Someone does, but not us - very far from us and quiet frankly there is nothing we can do. The only way I truly see change, is through despair. But back to the point, acid is the bomb.

[sheerwackiness]

thats the dumbest rebuttal I ever heard.. Come on man, use ur own fuckin brain for once. Whether the bubble is crystal clear or pitch black like the emptiness of space, you will never reach the light because of the "clear shell" or bubble.

I really dont want to start another argument dude but wow, that was dumbest response I ever heard in a philosophical discussion. I bet you didnt even think about that before you wrote it lol.

EDIT: The point is finding the light and reaching it (in reference to the tunnel), not just seeing it through a fuckin clear shell or whatever...
Well, if you're talking about a bubble and 'finding the light', that's quite different than being in an opaque shell and 'reaching the light'. Also, space is not black, it just looks that way. Subverting the 'light at the end of the tunnel' metaphor is like trying to devalue the 'keep on truckin' idea. That's just not cool man. Also, I'm pretty sure turtles see the light at the end of the tunnel/their shell every day, and it makes them happy.

[sheerwackiness]

Hey, is there a 'droppin' knowledge' emoticon?

[hawaiiankine]

i feel like im on acid after that thread! heee!

[Jolo]

Acid is great, but for every life changing, profound experience you can have (and probably will have) on Acid, there is another end of the spectrum. Something bad could happen to you and change your life for the worst. Chances are you're going to have a wonderful time, but I'm sure there have been people who got changed for the worse on LSD.

These are the things I think someone needs for a good trip:

1. Great setting. You need to be in a place where you don't have to worry about anything. You do need something to do, but being around friends the whole time is really, really nice. You'll feel connected with everyone.

2. Make sure everybody there is cool with drug use. LSD, unfortunately, is looked down upon by the majority of society. Very unfortunate, but that's the way it is and that's the way it's going to be forever, or at least for a very, very long time. Just don't be around these kinds of people when tripping at all, they aren't fun. I would think it would easy to tell if someone is on LSD, but last weekend when I was tripping I wasn't trying to hide it at all since I was at a party and had no reason to hide it and still some people didn't know. It isn't like I was trying to let people know I was tripping, but since I had no reason to hide it, I was just being myself and having a great time and some people still didn't know. With that said, you may be able to hide it from people, but I can't imagine worrying about people finding out being fun at all.

3. Positive mind set. If you think you can't handle Acid, don't take it. If you feel any anxiety at all when you have the dose in your hand about to put it in your mouth, just don't do it. That anxiety has a good chance of multiplying tenfold or more once you peak. It won't be fun if you don't have the right mind set.

If you do start having a bad trip, try to realize it's just the Acid. It's hard to accept that it is actually the Acid making you have a bad trip while on Acid, but it'll turn your trip around. Whatever you do, just don't go off by yourself during a bad trip. My friend did that and it wasn't good.

One last thing is just be around happy people and happy people only. It's so weird, but you can actually feel other people's emotions when on lsd. For example, if you were watching two people fighting, you wouldn't feel angry for whatever reason they are, but you would feel the anxiety and anger just by being around them. On the other hand, if everyone's happy, you'll feel the happiness in the air.

[solarus]

in most cases the more lsd that you do the more sane you will be. now, because most of the people around you who have never done lsd are completely insane or brainwashed to the point of dummys, anyone who has done enough lsd to be more sane than most will actually be considered insane by most. the insane consider the sane to be insane - thats just the way it is.


most trippers learn how to keep certain things to themselves or other likeminded folk in order to avoid being thought of as insane by the blind fools. most people consider me to be an intelligent good person, thats because i only show them so much or i only talk about certain things around them.
Finally someone puts this in words for me, ever since I tripped the first time Ive been in this mental state where Im not sure if Im the crazy one or if everyone else is really as crazy as it seems. Its odd being on the other side of the fence when you've spent your entire life looking down on it :D

[Gormur]

I told my dad I was tripping and he told me about a couple of his friends back in the day who tripped and went nuts, one lady who still has flashbacks, and one guy who hung himself. Granted I only know a handful of people who drop, but I've never seen this happen so it's just hard for me to believe it was caused by L and not some other drug. Maybe I'm naive. I've just never seen anything but improvements in my life..anyway I was insane before I ever took drugs. ;)

[Funkateer]

in most cases the more lsd that you do the more sane you will be. now, because most of the people around you who have never done lsd are completely insane or brainwashed to the point of dummys, anyone who has done enough lsd to be more sane than most will actually be considered insane by most. the insane consider the sane to be insane - thats just the way it is.


most trippers learn how to keep certain things to themselves or other likeminded folk in order to avoid being thought of as insane by the blind fools. most people consider me to be an intelligent good person, thats because i only show them so much or i only talk about certain things around them.

You sir just earned yourself a friend request :cheers2:

Excellently put the man only speaks the truth...
I admit before I met with acid I was insane
It leveled me out and taught me how to be a good person

[ad10]

lol when i introduce people to lucy one thing they always tell me is that they feel the most insane they have ever been.

I try to explain to them that in reality it is the most sane they have ever been.

Maybe it takes a few trips or perhaps a certain type of person to understand.

[jaredfelix]

This gentleman is 102 years old. He is responsible for acid. How does he seem to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCZDwTQtbDk&NR=1

yeah well how many times do you think he took acid?

[ad10]

every day actually.

[Mr.Writer]

lol when i introduce people to lucy one thing they always tell me is that they feel the most insane they have ever been.

I try to explain to them that in reality it is the most sane they have ever been.

Maybe it takes a few trips or perhaps a certain type of person to understand.

I didn't totally understand until about my fourth time