Opiates and the Law

[Opiumfiend]

I've done 'net searches trying to find out what one could expect if he/she were caught with opiates which were not prescribed. This is a very real threat, but I can't find any straight answers. It looks like this is due to the extremely complicated drug laws that are in place, and that the laws are different for every state/county/whatever.

So I ask you veterans, what generally happens to you if the local police know you illegally possess, say, 180mg of Morphine Sulphate? 300? 900? The penalties for mere possession are "incredibly harsh", which is ass-exploding bullshit, but I want a better idea of what could happen were I to get in trouble with the law for what amounts to pain-management. Anyone? Or is this thread innappropriate for a public discussion?

[Shocbomb]

If you get caught with schedule I narcotics like Herion OCs Dilaudid Morphine Methadone etc for user purposes only meaning its a small amount under a certain amount of weight its only for your use and you are not selling the drug its a Class C Felony I believe. If you get caught with schedule II Narcotics Like Vicoden Codiene Demeral etc its a Class D Felony. If your ass gets caught with attention to distribute or with a large amount of weight well you better hope you put some of that Drug $$$ aside that the pigs did not find or put a lean on your house becasue you better get a good layer becasue the charges are no joke and are up there like a class B felony, And you are facing some serious prison time. This is all off the top of my head so look it up to be 100% sure.

[Oxyrisin]

As long as there yours your alright. I was arrested on a warrent last year

and when they asked if there was anything I needed out of my car, I
told them to grab my Oxys and Norcos out of my backpack so they would'nt
get stolen..
They said it was a good thing they were prescribed, or I would be looking at a lot more trouble than I was already in..
Then I tried to get the Doc in the joint to give me my meds HAHA didn't fucking work. But hey it was worth a try.
I put a few Oxys in my mouth and they lasted till after I was booked in and was high as hell till i got out.

It was 100 Norcos and about 95 Oxys I has on me

[MagicSwhirlingShip]

wait risen tell this story again i dont get it howed u get pinchd for those pharms was it because those 100 narcos and 95 ocs werent your perscription?

[Oxyrisin]

wait risen tell this story again i dont get it howed u get pinchd for those pharms was it because those 100 narcos and 95 ocs werent your perscription?
No they were mine and I didn't get pinched for them. I was arrested for some other shit.
They just said it was a good thing that they were mine. Otherwise I would be in a lot of shit.
As long as they're yours you won't get in trouble.
Sorry bout the confusion:)

[Narkaughtix]

My father is a cop and I currently live with him so I know ALL of the cops in our area so as long as I'm around town I can get away with just about anything and don't need to be worried about a search. Prolly won't be good when I move and do the same shit I do now...

[rollontheground]

If you get caught with schedule I narcotics like Herion OCs Dilaudid Morphine Methadone etc for user purposes only meaning its a small amount under a certain amount of weight its only for your use and you are not selling the drug its a Class C Felony I believe. If you get caught with schedule II Narcotics Like Vicoden Codiene Demeral etc its a Class D Felony. If your ass gets caught with attention to distribute or with a large amount of weight well you better hope you put some of that Drug $$$ aside that the pigs did not find or put a lean on your house becasue you better get a good layer becasue the charges are no joke and are up there like a class B felony, And you are facing some serious prison time. This is all off the top of my head so look it up to be 100% sure.


shoc, i don't know how to tell you you'r wrong with something having to do with opiates but you are, i as well live in new york and have a penal law right in my trunk from my college crimjust class's,,,

Heroin is the only schedule 1 substance you mentioned
oxycodone, methadone, hydromorphone are all schedule 2's
hydrocodone is schedule 3
codeine is schedule 2-5 depending on dosage's and what it is combined with... and honestley i dont know the demeral schedule listing off the top of my head...but what i do know is that any opiate in NY is considered a "dangerous depressant", and that the laws go by weight. I believe the only A felony drug charge in NY emitts from either possing (with intent to sell OBV) 8 oz of a dangerous depprsant, or 5600mg of methadone...4oz of a dangerous deprasant and below are b felonys or less...but the fucked up thing is that the penal code contridics itself...it says all opiates are dangerouse depressants and shall be punished the same, then in a diff chapter tells you the differnt penelties for possesing/selling various schduled (prescription) drugs.....but remember...getting caught with 8 oz of heroin is a LOT worse than getting caught with 400 7.5mg's viodins, even though their both weighed the same and technically sentanced the same, the PLEA BARGAING will be differnt.

also to clear things up...schedule 1 means NO ACCEPTED MEDICALL USE WHAT SO EVER! (marijuana?)

[kil0]

shoc, i don't know how to tell you you'r wrong with something having to do with opiates but you are, i as well live in new york and have a penal law right in my trunk from my college crimjust class's,,,

Heroin is the only schedule 1 substance you mentioned
oxycodone, methadone, hydromorphone are all schedule 2's
hydrocodone is schedule 3
codeine is schedule 2-5 depending on dosage's and what it is combined with... and honestley i dont know the demeral schedule listing off the top of my head...but what i do know is that any opiate in NY is considered a "dangerous depressant", and that the laws go by weight. I believe the only A felony drug charge in NY emitts from either possing (with intent to sell OBV) 8 oz of a dangerous depprsant, or 5600mg of methadone...4oz of a dangerous deprasant and below are b felonys or less...but the fucked up thing is that the penal code contridics itself...it says all opiates are dangerouse depressants and shall be punished the same, then in a diff chapter tells you the differnt penelties for possesing/selling various schduled (prescription) drugs.....but remember...getting caught with 8 oz of heroin is a LOT worse than getting caught with 400 7.5mg's viodins, even though their both weighed the same and technically sentanced the same, the PLEA BARGAING will be differnt.

also to clear things up...schedule 1 means NO ACCEPTED MEDICALL USE WHAT SO EVER! (marijuana?)

good post. very accurate IMO. :cheers2:

[YEAHSUREWHYNOT]

shoc, i don't know how to tell you you'r wrong with something having to do with opiates but you are, i as well live in new york and have a penal law right in my trunk from my college crimjust class's,,,

Heroin is the only schedule 1 substance you mentioned
oxycodone, methadone, hydromorphone are all schedule 2's
hydrocodone is schedule 3
codeine is schedule 2-5 depending on dosage's and what it is combined with... and honestley i dont know the demeral schedule listing off the top of my head...but what i do know is that any opiate in NY is considered a "dangerous depressant", and that the laws go by weight. I believe the only A felony drug charge in NY emitts from either possing (with intent to sell OBV) 8 oz of a dangerous depprsant, or 5600mg of methadone...4oz of a dangerous deprasant and below are b felonys or less...but the fucked up thing is that the penal code contridics itself...it says all opiates are dangerouse depressants and shall be punished the same, then in a diff chapter tells you the differnt penelties for possesing/selling various schduled (prescription) drugs.....but remember...getting caught with 8 oz of heroin is a LOT worse than getting caught with 400 7.5mg's viodins, even though their both weighed the same and technically sentanced the same, the PLEA BARGAING will be differnt.

also to clear things up...schedule 1 means NO ACCEPTED MEDICALL USE WHAT SO EVER! (marijuana?)



So i can use the bottle from the old vicodin scrip I had? I mean I can have my pills in my pocket as long as they are in a bottle with my name on them?

[kil0]

So i can use the bottle from the old vicodin scrip I had? I mean I can have my pills in my pocket as long as they are in a bottle with my name on them?

not really, although it would be a smarter than having them in a baggie in your pocket. It works if its a current valid script.

[YEAHSUREWHYNOT]

not really, although it would be a smarter than having them in a baggie in your pocket. It works if its a current valid script.

I would just have them loose in my pocket and eat them if I had to talk to the fuzz for any reason.

[dd3stp233]

I've done 'net searches trying to find out what one could expect if he/she were caught with opiates which were not prescribed. This is a very real threat, but I can't find any straight answers. It looks like this is due to the extremely complicated drug laws that are in place, and that the laws are different for every state/county/whatever.

So I ask you veterans, what generally happens to you if the local police know you illegally possess, say, 180mg of Morphine Sulphate? 300? 900? The penalties for mere possession are "incredibly harsh", which is ass-exploding bullshit, but I want a better idea of what could happen were I to get in trouble with the law for what amounts to pain-management. Anyone? Or is this thread innappropriate for a public discussion?


In accordance with California Prop.36, as long as you a had personal sized amount (not sure how much) and there was no violence or weapons associated with the arrest (or other crimes), you would get mandatory drug treatment and probation.

[sam&ella]

I was pulled over by the law a couple years ago with 6 Norcos in my hand. The officer (Ft Myers Police Department) confiscated them, but never charged me with any crime (no prescription).
Two weeks later the same officer was charged with calling in false bomb threats to a local pharmacy, then stealing drugs while searching for the "bomb".

[kil0]

I was pulled over by the law a couple years ago with 6 Norcos in my hand. The officer (Ft Myers Police Department) confiscated them, but never charged me with any crime (no prescription).
Two weeks later the same officer was charged with calling in false bomb threats to a local pharmacy, then stealing drugs while searching for the "bomb".

ROTF!! :smilielol5: What a dumb cop!

[sam&ella]

ROTF!! :smilielol5: What a dumb cop!

No shit, kil0; and it was all caught on the store's video.:p

[Oxyrisin]

No shit, kil0; and it was all caught on the store's video.:p
^^Wow, some of these cops are some real dumbasses lol

[tothedome1]

what, so he liked your vicodins so he robbed a pharmacy to get more?

[sam&ella]

what, so he liked your vicodins so he robbed a pharmacy to get more?

nay, he craved my Norcos, idiot!

[Oxyrisin]

nay, he craved my Norcos, idiot!
See what ya did SAM&ELLA,
You got caught with Norcos and YOU turned a cop into a pill popin and pharmacy thieving crook LOL :cool:
Now what have you got to say for yourself HAHA:D

[Narkaughtix]

Ha I should ask my dad to do that while I am on a ride along with him(he is a cop) but of course the bomb threat would be called in from an environmentally driven bombist(he wants the Pharmacy to cut back on power or some bullshit) so we could cut the power to it and say he did it. or even put me in a mask and have me attack my father and make it look real like I beat the shit out of the responding officer and got away...then get back in to the patrol car and have my dad say he never let me out...any flaws there?

[kil0]

if you dad is down to do that, it might work lol. SWIY(lol!) calls in the bawmb threaht (spellin it weird on purpose, ever seen enemy of the state?) and you have someone outside cut the power to the pharmacy. like that the cameras dont work no more, all the employees have been evacuated, and you run in there with flashlights and get down to business.

[Narkaughtix]

Lol ya I know what you mean about the movie but no I don't think my dad is down for it...I have been with him when he has pulled people over and found weed and small stashes of pills nothing really bad and he always has said don't let me catch you with it again and left it at that, he doesn't care about little recreational stashes but he has also arrested people for possession before so he isn't like a dirty cop...but if he was...

[kil0]

"but if he was..."

LMAO

[Narkaughtix]

Ya lol, it'll be in the back of my mind, brewing...

[Oxyrisin]

Why don't you make a deal with your Dad and tell him you will dispose of all those bad nasty drugs:D

[Narkaughtix]

Oh thats a good one, hopefully he'll go for the no questions asked method.

[sam&ella]

Why don't you make a deal with your Dad and tell him you will dispose of all those bad nasty drugs:D

1st Place Winner, best humor in the forum, August 10, 2008.

[Narkaughtix]

Yes! I always wanted to be a part of the humor awards, you are welcome Oxyrisin for me writing the reply necessary for you to write a reply worthy of 1st place...

[jo_k_er_man]

by weight you say?... but i almost guarantee 400mg of hydrocodone would see lesser punishment that 400mg of hydromorphone..

[rollontheground]

So i can use the bottle from the old vicodin scrip I had? I mean I can have my pills in my pocket as long as they are in a bottle with my name on them?


if its the same exact pills, yea deff do that and your perfectly "legally" ok


someone i know was prescribed 1mg alprazolam tid (three times daily") and wound up getting caught with 400 barz, worked out that him being prescribed alprazolam at some point greatly impacted the case on a good was towards the kid i know...

[rollontheground]

by weight you say?... but i almost guarantee 400mg of hydrocodone would see lesser punishment that 400mg of hydromorphone..



well hydroc is schedule 3 and hydrom is schedule 2, so no matter what quantitites, in the state of ny the sentancings shall be different.