getting heroin

[HauntedGraffiti]

alright so usually im not into this kind of stuff but i went on a cruise 2 weeks ago, and while outside smokin a cig, i met a guy who gave me heroin. i was havin a real bad time on the cruise so i shot up, and instantly felt reallyreally happy and was in a good mood all night.

i want to do it again. i know one or two dealers in my school who sell it, but not sure "how to ask" and lots of other stuff about it. could someone fill me in?

[SpENS93]

dont even start doing that shit ur only 16 wtf

[poopzilla33]

wait, you happened to have needles cotten a spoon and alchohol wipes on you? or did you share his needle. dont shoot up without learning the right way first, thats very important. also dont do it too often, but once you start, you just cant stop

[neuroptican]

Dude, get your fucking head on straight. Heroin may feel amazing but it will destroy your life. Being an Alice in Chains fan I will never, ever fucking touch heroin. I can't stand needles anyways.

[PharmaPhunk]

He just gave you free fucking H?

[HauntedGraffiti]

i know the right way how to shoot up. i take growth hormone, so i have a bunch of needles and alcohol pads lying around in my house. but i don't know shit about heroin (other than the feeling and what is does to your health and life). i mean, how much does it cost? and whats it measured in?

[soaringeagle]

if u know what it does to your life why ya wanna do it again

ya really want that life that bad?


how much ya want thge feelin of wanting to crawl out of your skin if u cant get more...of preffering to die rather then go 5 more min without it...

u got away with tryin it once and knowin u just want more... dont try it again or she's got ya

dont be dumb

why ya messin with hormones? too?

[The Stig]

if u know what it does to your life why ya wanna do it again

ya really want that life that bad?


how much ya want thge feelin of wanting to crawl out of your skin if u cant get more...of preffering to die rather then go 5 more min without it...

u got away with tryin it once and knowin u just want more... dont try it again or she's got ya

dont be dumb

why ya messin with hormones? too?Man, you need to exit the opiate forum and forgot how you got here. You come in here just to preach on people and pontificate about how bad opiates are and everyone's ruining their lives. Not everyone wants to grow tomatoes and have a beard... we don't come into your peaced out vegetable threads and tell you what to do.

[PharmaPhunk]

I hope Shocbomb posts, I always love reading his dope stories.

[Shocbomb]

Thanks there PharmaPhunk I am happy as a pig in shit you enjoy my Dope Stories.Saying that makes me feel a little warm inside almost like a bag of Dope !!! LOL . As for this story there is not to much I can say about this one, I know there is nodam way my ass would walk up to some kid on cruise and ask him if they wanted some of my dope ? Know fucking way !!!! He could of not given him to much dope especially to shot I know the first time I shot up buy mainlineing I was noding out so fucking hard core I was drooling all over my shoes and pants and smacking my head on the pavement.I was FuckEEEEEEEED UP !!!!! On the real Kid I would not advice anyone to just start shooting up Herion like that its a good way to end up becoming worm food, 99% of people start sniffing it and smoking it and get a tolerance befroe they start shooting up. And how did you shoot it up did you main line it shoot it into a vein or did you skin pop it just shoot it into a mussle or under your skin with out hitting a vein, There is one hell of a difference ? Aslo come on man you are 16 Smome weed like a nut,Go pussy Hunting, Get drunk ass a fuck and make a fool out of yourself,eat some shrooms and hits, maybe even blow a few lines of coke with your friends on special occasions but don't start doing Herion at such a young age please !!!

[Twizz]

I would NEVER suggest someone do coke rather than opiates. Heroin I haven't tried so I don't know but still, they're both life-wreckers.

And by growth hormone, do you mean steroids? Because if you have muscle and start doing this shit your muscles will turn to fat from sitting around all the time being fucked up.

I'm not preaching, but seriously man. Just do pills, they're safer cuz you know exactly whats in it (if you know what it looks like) and in most cases they're pretty easy to get for cheap... I got ANOTHER connect for 80's of OC for 3.50 a piece. LUUUUUCKY

[HauntedGraffiti]

the growth hormone arent steroids, i actually need to them

[RELAYER]

Man, you need to exit the opiate forum and forgot how you got here. You come in here just to preach on people and pontificate about how bad opiates are and everyone's ruining their lives. Not everyone wants to grow tomatoes and have a beard... we don't come into your peaced out vegetable threads and tell you what to do.
Damn Stig your still around?! :D Havent seen you in a minute

[The manticore]

do ur research on heroin and read stories of how its ruined lives, trust u wudnt wanna go down the dark road in a few years time

[MDA]

What are all these 16 and 17 year olds doing being involved in an opiate forum or opiates in general enough to be finding forums for it and shit. Shit is sad. Get outta that shit while you can fools or at least wait a few years.


I'm not preaching, but seriously man. Just do pills, they're safer cuz you know exactly whats in it (if you know what it looks like) and in most cases they're pretty easy to get for cheap... I got ANOTHER connect for 80's of OC for 3.50 a piece. LUUUUUCKYShut up with that shit dude, its fuckin bullshit no one wants to hear it. You dont get oxy contin for 3.50a piece no one does that. Get the fuck out of here u tool bag

[HauntedGraffiti]

uhhh this is a drugs forum, and an opiates forum. all im asking is for help, and my drug experiences shouldnt be any better or worse than anyone on here. chances are ill get heroin no matter what people say on here (not trying to sound rude), so you guys could at least give me some pointers about it.

[burnabowl]

hahaha I was waiting to say that^ to see if anyone else would. Isn't that the point of free and uncensored drug info? Yeah it's freaky to hear about a 16 year old shooting heroin but at least this kid is up front about it. What about all the other fucked up shit teens are capable of that you don't hear about? The other posters in this thread have been absolutely correct...in content, not in their approach. Younger novices are not going to take what you say seriously...they'd rather make their own mistakes, and once they do, the lesson they learn is much more ingrained that any other way. Or they'll die, but preventing his death IS something we can do from our end, by giving bias-free, constructive info.

So he likes heroin, and goes to a place where there exists other heroin enthusiasts, and gets nothing but ridicule and judgement...is that really going to deter him from doing heroin again? It'll just fuel his desire to seek out H if he can't even feel welcome in an opiates forum. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending heroin. I'm just saying that its negative effects are focused on to an exaggerated degree since the bad scenarios are made public, the survivable or benign scenarios are on the DL because responsible drug users are good at staying private. I'm open to scrutiny on this point because I haven't known many heroin users, but the death rate is never going to be a majority figure, otherwise people would quit doing heroin. It might be the same percentage of alcohol users for all I know. But the majority survives it, and they would be more helpful if they didn't repel the beginners by being nothing but dire and critical. :)

[ImRon]

first off dont do heroin but he would be the best method i think, just bring up a conversation about it to a dealer and build a trust until they ask you if you want to buy some?

[Patrick1110]

HGH? At 16? Are you serious?

[HauntedGraffiti]

Ok. I really hate to keep checking this thread just to find that everyone here is against heroin, even though theres a whole forum just for opiates, and i though hipforums was supposed to be helpful with any questions we have. Thanks burnabowl, and as I said, I'm doing heroin again whether you all think I should or not. Now I have a couple of questions about it that I want to know.

1. How is heroin measured?
2. What's the regular dose?
3. How much does a "dose" typically cost?

If anyone could help me, I'd appreciate it.

[Guitar]

What do you expect man? Not a lot of people want to help a 16 yr old buy heroin so they can shoot up. And whoever said they get 80s for 3.50 thats bullshit.

[Shocbomb]

Come on kid Guiter is 100% right and I won't be so nice like him on my opinion about it. Do you really think that people should help out a young kid get Herion or any hard drugs for that matter ? People in general don't like to see young kids increase there odds greatly of fucking up there life and future. Some people like me don't think kids should be doing Hard Drugs such as Herion.I don't think alot of people no matter there age should be shooting up Herion actually.But at least most older people don't have there whole future ahead of them and are not kids making a stupid choice they will regret there whole life. And I can tell just buy the way you sound already and the way you want to know about Drugs you have an addictive personality like me and the odds of you getting addicted to the shit is very very high. Its not to normal in life for a kid who is 16 and in 10th grade to want to shot Dope up. Its just not. God I myself could not even imagine thinking about Herion when I was 16 and wanthing to IV it none the less. Thats just not normal at all.So something is not right in your life and hard drugs like Herion are not going to fix it eather. They will make it 100 times worse and add a host of all new problems.And as for some of your questions well if you can't find the balls to go up and ask the kids who you say sell dope in your school for some That should tell you right there you should not be doing dope.Becasue the only other option where 99% of Herion is cold is in bad slum areas AKA the Ghetto. And if you can't figure out and are afraid to ask kids you know in your school for dope there is no way you are going to go up to some thug on the street corner and ask him.One question I have is how the hell do you know they sell dope in your school in the first place becasue you heard they did ? I don't get that one right there ? Herion is not a cash maker for drug dealing high school kids there are not to many high school kids running around like you want to be strung out on Herion and shooting up in the bathroom before there math quiz. Maybe a hand full at best and that is a long shot.I can't remember one kid in my whole school who was shooting Herion not one. A few kids sniffed it maybe a few times but thats about all no one was addicted to it.The hardest drug kids did at my school and got hooked on was Coke and a few were just starting to smoke crack mixed in with there blunts every now and then, And most the kids who were bad on coke were seniors and just handfull of juniors.I don't thik times have changed that much sence I graduated in 96 . I dout there are hoards of Junkys running around high schools.So why the hell would they sell dope when they can make so much more loot selling drugs that kids in high schools do and like be it Shrooms,Hits,X,weed,K etc shit the more that I think about it cough medicine would bring in more $ then Herion in high schools. I am sorry to say this but The bottom line is I find your story Skeptical to begin with !!! No fuck That I am pretty sure its bull shit !!! I am sorry your story just sounds made up and so many facts are left out.It just makes no sence at all just imagine if someone told you that story ?Yeah alright Some guy who'a a herion addict is on a cruise liner and sees some bored lonely kid and so he decides to go up and make friends with him and then ask the 16 year old kid if he wants some of his Dope.Then he does not stay there and get high with the kid and tell him anything about it he just leaves and lets the kid go back to there rom to shoot it up. I just can't get over these questions you are asking us if you had a person right there who had Herion and none the less gave you some to use.come on now please the whole story sounds Bogus but the weard part is he does not tell you any thing about dope he does not have to show you how to use the dope or how much to use becase you already know that from what you say, Not to many people who do dope are going to give some Kid dope to take back to there hotel room to shot up.Sure kid you know how to use dope and how much to use in your first post you say but then you are asking us later on . Does that story sound just a little weard to you ? Then you say You know how to IV Herion becasue you use needles ? So what my father injects insulin and would have no fucking idea on how to inject Herion at all. Its little comapring Apples to oranges. I ask you questions on how you did the dope what kind it was powder or Tar and how you made it up into a liquid and drew it up so you could IV it and you don't repply and just say nothing. And whats real funny is you are now asking on another post how much to shoot it up and how does it come packaged. Well you should know that right if you did dope like you say right didn't you see how it was packaged or how much was in the bag ? And Why in the world like I said above would you of just not asked your new found Herion friend all these questions ? Your story just makes no sence did he just give you a bag of Herion and then just walk away and not say anything after words becasue thats the way your story sounds man ? Or did you guys only talk about the Economy and its impact on the stock market and theories about space time contingent ? For real man I just con't understnad any of what yo say its just smells of Bull shit and sounds so dam made up to find out info about Herion becasue you are proably curious about it ? Kid there is no problem at all about being curious about a Drug or it effects what you should of done is just asked us about Herion with out the bull shit story ! Please worry about other fucking things in life then wanting to use Herion kid I am sorry to be such a mean ass but come on you are 16 years old have another goal in life then wanting to find the ins and outs of the Herion trade and the right way to be a junky. If you keep going down this path in life I wish to GOD I could show you a mirror of what your life will be like in 5 to 7 years if you start doing hard drugs now ! Just do the right thing kid In life you have your whole future ahead of you. The end result is its up to you kid what path you want to take in life and a few wrong mistakes at the age of 16 can fuck that path up forever ????


P.S-Twizz just stop please with the $3.50 80mg OC shit !!!! Does your dealer just not round them off to say $3 or $4 LOL.why the hell does he have to put that extra 50 cents in ?-I like you Twizz but come on man please don't insult my intelligence or any one elses on hear who knows about drugs and there prices buy saying you can get 80mg OC' for $3.50 each, you sound stright up stupid saying that. I mean saying you pay $20 would of been a little more believable but still far fetched. It sounds worse then the people on the X board who love to out do one another on prices and say they get there hits for $ 2 and $3 each which is a Joke most hits go for $20 to $30 a pop for good X.And you got to love the people who say they can get sheets of LSD for $50 a pop. I don't understnad why so many people just plain out lie about what they pay for there drugs ? Its almost like some people have a competition on hear to see if they can lie and say the lowest amount. God Forbid if they say they pay regular street prices or a little more I guees they think there Dick just might Shrink ? Come on Just be straight up no one cares what people pay for there shit. And as for OC's Anyone is lucky as hell if they can get oc's for 75 cents on the mg. The going rate across most of the U.S is $1 to $1.25 a mg. If you can get 80mg OC's for $70 or $80 you are paying the right price for $60 and $50 you are getting a great Deal.Finding them any lower then that well its a dreeam hook up and you better not loose that Dealer/Conection.The bottom line is some of you people who like play the Drug price congo line and see how low you can go for what you pay for your shit. You might be able to get those lies over on young kids and people not to well versed on the world of drugs but thats about all. You make yourself look like a total Ass to people who really know !!!!!!

[MDA]

Thank god, someone who agrees with me. ON both counts.

[IndigloSpaz]

1. How is heroin measured?
2. What's the regular dose?
3. How much does a "dose" typically cost?

If anyone could help me, I'd appreciate it.
Heroin, in my experience as being a junky, is typically measured in grams, half grams, and points.
A $10-$20 bag of heroin depending on where you're getting it is .2.
Starting off, a regular does would be .2 or perhaps even .1, depending on how nausious you wanna get or how much u wanna nod the fuck out. My first time doing heroin I shot up a full .2 bag, just got pretty naucious and coulda keep my eyes open.

[Piney]

moving Smack in high school is just Begging to be busted. People talk.


Prob baby powder.

[logwarrior]

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/heroin/heroin.shtml

erowid is the answer

[HauntedGraffiti]

Kid there is no problem at all about being curious about a Drug or it effects what you should of done is just asked us about Herion with out the bull shit story !
The guy who gave it to me didn't just give it to me and leave, we shot up together, and he just gave me a syringe which already had some in it.

[Geneity]

lol 16 year old shooting heroin. This can only end badly.

[NeuroDr]

i agree w/ most of the other ppl sayin this is a bad idea...lol...also lotta trouble movin heroin in hs

[Gsmall]

Well all i gotta say is a lot of you are fucking ass holes, he said hes doing heroin again and your probally not going to change his mind so the smart thing to do would be help him out would you rather him be educated or shoot up some random amount of heroin and od?

[NeuroDr]

to gsmall: Do you really think that people should help out a young kid get Herion or any hard drugs for that matter ? People in general don't like to see young kids increase there odds greatly of fucking up there life and future.


he was given an erowid link...i think thats a push in the right direction...

[SnailPirate]

DO NOT fuck w/ h man. its not worth it NO MATTER what man.



you know what...

go watch american gangster and then post your thought up man...

[Gsmall]

DO NOT fuck w/ h man. its not worth it NO MATTER what man.



you know what...

go watch american gangster and then post your thought up man...That was heroin on crack tho lol but heroin is very bad all that propaganda you hear its mostly all true it will easily ruin your life, and people usualy get hooked thier first time all i can say is quit while your head but at the same time people shouldnt be so......

[Geneity]

Well yeah, snorting it you can control yourself. But shooting becomes too much of a problem to control. It's just TOO good.

[thinkz]

^^^ tossing nails, you will need them for the coffin. a gun to the head is faster. geesh, i pitty your mum. smfh.

[Finriswolf]

Thanks there PharmaPhunk I am happy as a pig in shit you enjoy my Dope Stories.Saying that makes me feel a little warm inside almost like a bag of Dope !!! LOL . As for this story there is not to much I can say about this one, I know there is nodam way my ass would walk up to some kid on cruise and ask him if they wanted some of my dope ? Know fucking way !!!! He could of not given him to much dope especially to shot I know the first time I shot up buy mainlineing I was noding out so fucking hard core I was drooling all over my shoes and pants and smacking my head on the pavement.I was FuckEEEEEEEED UP !!!!! On the real Kid I would not advice anyone to just start shooting up Herion like that its a good way to end up becoming worm food, 99% of people start sniffing it and smoking it and get a tolerance befroe they start shooting up. And how did you shoot it up did you main line it shoot it into a vein or did you skin pop it just shoot it into a mussle or under your skin with out hitting a vein, There is one hell of a difference ? Aslo come on man you are 16 Smome weed like a nut,Go pussy Hunting, Get drunk ass a fuck and make a fool out of yourself,eat some shrooms and hits, maybe even blow a few lines of coke with your friends on special occasions but don't start doing Herion at such a young age please !!!
Shocbomb is the BOMB! :) love your posts man.



Fin

[MDA]

That was heroin on crack tho lol but heroin is very bad all that propaganda you hear its mostly all true it will easily ruin your life, and people usualy get hooked thier first time all i can say is quit while your head but at the same time people shouldnt be so......Sorry dude dont take this the wrong way but when you're 15 years old you dont know anything. You really really dont know jack shit. Its not an insult, everyone is the same way at that age. Just not enough life experience and overall general knowledge of life and how things work. You aint really shit for another few years. Lay off the drugs until then or you're just going to ruin your life years ahead of all your friends and then you'll lose all your friends all your money and family and respect and end up just a piece of shit for no reason. Im not singling you out im talking about all kids your age. You may disagree with me now but trust me when you are a few years older you will see what im talking ;]

[wizarddrew77]

If you do the hardest Drugs now what will you be taking when your 58?
I have taken every Drug made or grown since I first started getting high in the summer of 1967.
Do the Math.
But my point is save the smack for later on.
I started doing it only about 5 years ago.
There are a ton of great Drugs out there where your not sticking a needle in your arm to feel or enjoy them.
Just some advice from an old stoner. Just be careful. Arrive Alive. Peace-The Wiz

[NorCaliGreenFiend]

That was heroin on crack tho lol but heroin is very bad all that propaganda you hear its mostly all true it will easily ruin your life, and people usualy get hooked thier first time all i can say is quit while your head but at the same time people shouldnt be so......BULL fucking SHIT. No one gets addicted the first time. There has to be habituation first, then addiction. You just called it propaganda, then said it was true, thats totally contradictory.

[NeuroDr]

heroin is known for causing physical addiction with one time use...there doesn't have to be habituation for a physical addiction....thats what opiates do

[Shocbomb]

The first few times you try Herion all it really does is make you sick.99% of the people I know got sick as a dog the first time they sniffed a bag or even a half of a bag of herion and really got high on it. Its not really until between the 2 and 4th time you feel the real effects from the drug and the high. I know for me it was the 3rd time I sniffed a half a bag I got high off of it. When that Herion hit me I feel in love with the feeling that shit gave right then and there, It was unlike any drug I had ever done you just can't really explain the high. Its kind of like trying to explain to someone what a trip on LSd or Shrooms is like you just can't.If you have never had the experience of tripping you can't really explain what its like to others at all.In my opinion those are the only 2 substances you can't explain to people what they are like. Hard core hallucinogens like LSD,DMT,Shrooms etc and hard core opiates like Herion. I guess the best way to explain Herion is like a Warm security blanket of love and joy being wrapped around you the whole time you are high.It makes the feeling of X and coke look like dog shit. You feel fucking great you think every thing is great and you are friends with every one. Life could not look better at the time when you are high.The warm feeling inside you is like when you know you are loved that warm energy that takes over.And that does not even explain it right.The thing that makes Herion so fucking addictive is Its so hard to not want to be like that all the time after you first feel the high. Its human nature to want to feel good and this shit does that. But little do you kow its a fake reality and fake emotions. And it takes the hard way usally for people to find that out. But every thing that is so great about it is that much worse on the down side.Its a substance that people who have an addivtive personality should just not mess with at all.I will become there down fall, Thr odds are there life will be caught in the on going circle of addiction. Whic sucks big ass Dog nuts let me tell you. No high or substance is worth the horrors of Addiction.Ounce you get caught up in Herion or Hard core opiate use its so fucking hard to get back out and back to real life with out wanting it running threw your veins all the time. I have seen it ruin so many good people and friends.I cringe at the idea of kids even wanting to do even try it let alone at such a young age.Thats why I am so against hard drugs on hear especially when youg kids want to try them, I know dam well I am a hypacrite becasue I still use hard drugs form time to time like Herion and coke and preach to others not to. But I know dam well my life would of been a hell of alot easier if I did not become a addict and live a drug life style in my late teens threw my mid 20's. I am so lucky I am not in prison.Homeless or even Dead right now.No drug or feeling like I said is worth your life. please just fucking think about all drugs before doing them. And if you do use don't use all the time thats when drugs become an addiction when you use just to use.

[Guitar]

I know what you mean when you say it takes a couple times to really experience and enjoy the high. The first time I did opiates, I got an 80 mg pill for 20 bucks. Didn't know anything about it so I just popped the whole thing. Got incredibly sick but the few minutes of feeling good was enough to wanna try it again. I guess it's because your body becomes more accustom to the chemical, and adapts better to it when you do it.

[Gsmall]

Sorry dude dont take this the wrong way but when you're 15 years old you dont know anything. You really really dont know jack shit. Its not an insult, everyone is the same way at that age. Just not enough life experience and overall general knowledge of life and how things work. You aint really shit for another few years. Lay off the drugs until then or you're just going to ruin your life years ahead of all your friends and then you'll lose all your friends all your money and family and respect and end up just a piece of shit for no reason. Im not singling you out im talking about all kids your age. You may disagree with me now but trust me when you are a few years older you will see what im talking ;]Well, your obviously wrong. Im already ahead of kids my own age you cant just say some one doesnt know something just because theyre at a certain age if you havent noticed then your very ignorant. My proof is 12 year olds graduating college.. I can say i know more then a lot of people your age too. Also dont assume ive done a lot of drugs though i have but not heroin or meth. I already have enough respect dont think im going to lose any. Well, moneys not a factor in this when your 15 and made a game ;) another point proven. I do admit a lot of kids my age are uneducated but not every one. To add you are really an insult saying your not singling me out your saying all kids are dumb.

[dan500]

heroin is known for causing physical addiction with one time use...there doesn't have to be habituation for a physical addiction....thats what opiates do
wrong
all opiates require continual use over a period of time for physical addiction
Im an old timer who hasnt touched dope in years but I remember how it was...

really nice to snort a part of a bag--then a whole bag and
then one day waking up and feeling like shit and thinking...

heck
that never happened before?!
----
that's how addiction works
If one chips-(only does it weekends and now and then and can limit themselves that way)
there is absolutely no way one can be addicted to heroin or any opiate


to quit is a miserable 3-4 days but then it is over except for that feeling of lethargy that hangs around for awhile--let alone the shits
and urge to use again to get thru life and job

just let it alone

[NeuroDr]

i dont see how u can say theres absolutely no way to get addicted if u chip....ive heard of many ppl who began by doin it once in a while, then started to get it more and more, and b4 u even realize its a daily habit...if u keep using it with any kind of frequency it seems like a tolerance should form pretty quickly so then u start using more blah blah everyone knows how that goes...i doubt heroin addicts began by shooting up daily, it had to start somewhere
but idk, maybe one time wouldn't get everyone hooked but there are definitely those that get hooked fast

[MDA]

Well, your obviously wrong. Im already ahead of kids my own age you cant just say some one doesnt know something just because theyre at a certain age if you havent noticed then your very ignorant. My proof is 12 year olds graduating college.. I can say i know more then a lot of people your age too. Also dont assume ive done a lot of drugs though i have but not heroin or meth. I already have enough respect dont think im going to lose any. Well, moneys not a factor in this when your 15 and made a game ;) another point proven. I do admit a lot of kids my age are uneducated but not every one. To add you are really an insult saying your not singling me out your saying all kids are dumb.Sorry to say its true, all kids are dumb. Doesnt matter if you dont think you are, all that matters is that its pretty much a fact. Its proven right in your post.

"Well, moneys not a factor in this when your 15 and made a game ;) another point proven"

Trying to lie about money by saying you made a "game". What does that even mean? Just some bullshit that a kid would say. Doesnt even make sense. Your reasoning doesnt make sense and thats probably the dumbest lie I have heard in a while. No one just says "Oh money's not a problem cause I made a game" Honestly, that statement alone is just some kid bullshit, some stupid shit any 15 year old would say.

"I do admit a lot of kids my age are uneducated but not every one."

Once again you dont even know what you're talking about. Since when are a lot of 15 year olds not in school? Most of you ARE educated. Thats not even whats in question. Being smart and experienced and having knowledge is not the same as being educated in school. Its called being alive for more then 15 years and being in the REAL world outside of school and having common sense. Something you DONT have.

Sorry dude, you'll realize it eventually. You need to stop being a little douche and lay off the drugs. YOURE FUCKING 15 YEARS OLD KID! GO PLAY YOUR VIDEOGAME AND GET OFF DRUG FORUMS. You have no business here.

Im not usually an asshole but im tired of little ass kids like you. Not only making up bullshit 24/7, but also thinking that trying heroin or crack is a good choice. No one cares if you do that shit when you're older, but when you're 15 you DO NOT i repeat DO NOT know whats best for you. Thats why you have parents. Shit is just so annoying.

[fibre1]

What's with all the criticism? Heroin is not a lot different to oxy, morphine, etc. It's a safe drug for a 15 year-old. Cannabis and speed, LSD, mushrooms etc. can fuck someone that age up a lot - cause psychosis etc. Opioids are safe.

[acidtestrly?]

"It's a safe drug for a 15 year-old"


troll.

[fibre1]

"It's a safe drug for a 15 year-old"


troll.
Side effects:


The most serious hazard of therapy is respiratory (see also 4.9 Overdose). The most common side effects are sedation, nausea and vomiting, constipation and sweating. Tolerance generally develops with long-term use, but not to constipation. Other side effects include the following:

Anaphylaxis: Anaphylactic reactions following intravenous injection have been reported rarely.

Cardiovascular: orthostatic hypotension, facial flushing, palpitations, tachycardia, bradycardia.

Central Nervous System: dizziness, vertigo, mental clouding, confusion (with large doses), hallucinations, headache, mood changes including dysphoria and euphoria.

Gastrointestinal: dry mouth, biliary spasm.

Disorders of the eye: blurred or double vision or other changes in vision, miosis.

Sexual dysfunction: long term use may lead to a reversible decrease in libido or potency.

Skin: rash, pruritus, urticaria.

Urinary: urinary retention, difficulty with micturition, ureteric spasm, antidiuretic effect. Tolerance develops to the effects of opioids on the bladder.

The euphoric activity of diamorphine has led to its abuse and physical and psychological dependence may occur (see also 4.4 Special Warnings and Precautions for use).


Compare those to the adverse effects of antidepressants, antipsychotics, LSD, cannabis etc. Herion is one of the safest drugs there is.

[NeuroDr]

those seem a lot worse than any adverse effects from mushrooms, lsd, weed...opiates are much worse for you physically, not to mention addiction and overdose potential...neither of which are characteristic of any psychedelics or weed

[fibre1]

those seem a lot worse than any adverse effects from mushrooms, lsd, weed...opiates are much worse for you physically, not to mention addiction and overdose potential...neither of which are characteristic of any psychedelics or weed
The only bad effects of opioids are constipation and respiratory depression - if you don't OD there's no real harm, UNLIKE hallucinogens and stimulants.

[MDA]

They ARE worse. Shooting up heroin will have a good chance of killing you via resp. depression for someone with no opiate tolerance. That means someone jumping right to heroin being 15 years old. Very good chance of dying.

[Geneity]

Oh, lets not forget physical and mental addiction. Seriously. lol.

[gimme_danger]

Ok. I really hate to keep checking this thread just to find that everyone here is against heroin, even though theres a whole forum just for opiates, and i though hipforums was supposed to be helpful with any questions we have. Thanks burnabowl, and as I said, I'm doing heroin again whether you all think I should or not. Now I have a couple of questions about it that I want to know.

1. How is heroin measured?
2. What's the regular dose?
3. How much does a "dose" typically cost?

If anyone could help me, I'd appreciate it.
well if this story is true, i just have a little trouble believing it because most people dont have that great euphoric experience the first time. i felt sick and itchy my first time. Anyways if you want some tips, dont make using Heroin a habit. If you are going to do it, I would seriously suggest you start off smoking it and not using a needle.

[Geneity]

In bags and bundles it's measured. 1 bag is about 2 lines. Most will recommend you don't do an entire bag at once, but I did, and it was pretty fun, but not overly so (snorted). Bundles are 10 bags, which should be a gram. You have to take into account how much it was cut, which will usually be a lot, but not as much as coke. Just split a bag into 2 lines, snort one and see how you feel in 5 minutes.

This has been my experience.

[fibre1]

They ARE worse. Shooting up heroin will have a good chance of killing you via resp. depression for someone with no opiate tolerance. That means someone jumping right to heroin being 15 years old. Very good chance of dying.
You can overdose on a lot of drugs. Paracetamol is harmful if you overdose.

[MDA]

You can overdose on a lot of drugs. Paracetamol is harmful if you overdose.Are you totally retarded or do you just have selective reading/hearing? You can fucking overdose on any drug NO SHIT How long did it take you to realize that it was possible to overdose on drugs? Probably a while. The point about heroin is that its one of the EASIEST to overdose on. Its not measured and its potency varies bag to bag. Im so tired of people being stupid or not using their heads. Use some goddamn common sense and think about shit before you go saying whatever dumb shit comes to your mind.

I still cant even believe you said "You can overdose on a lot of drugs"
Like are you really that stupid? Why do you think a chemical is a drug in the first place? Cause you can fucking OD on it. Do you want me to list all the hundreds upon hundreds of drugs you can OD on? OTC, Illegal, Scripts, no fucking shit you can OD on drugs. Seriously. Who would have thought? ODing on drugs. What a suprise.

Toolbag

[fibre1]

Are you totally retarded or do you just have selective reading/hearing? You can fucking overdose on any drug NO SHIT How long did it take you to realize that it was possible to overdose on drugs? Probably a while. The point about heroin is that its one of the EASIEST to overdose on. Its not measured and its potency varies bag to bag. Im so tired of people being stupid or not using their heads. Use some goddamn common sense and think about shit before you go saying whatever dumb shit comes to your mind.

I still cant even believe you said "You can overdose on a lot of drugs"
Like are you really that stupid? Why do you think a chemical is a drug in the first place? Cause you can fucking OD on it. Do you want me to list all the hundreds upon hundreds of drugs you can OD on? OTC, Illegal, Scripts, no fucking shit you can OD on drugs. Seriously. Who would have thought? ODing on drugs. What a suprise.

ToolbagYou're singling out Heroin as especially dangerous, but that's :bs: . The point you made about it being 'measured in bags' -- yes this is a danger with ANY street-drug, not just Heroin, and you can get prescription diamorphine which is 100% safe and pure. So it's not the Heroin that's unsafe.


You're making an argument against prohibition, not Heroin.

[Shocbomb]

fibre 1 - Did you eat lead paint chips as Baby or something ?I just can't get over your post please man stop the stupid shit now.To even try backing up and supporting that 15 year old kids should be shooting up Herion and that Dope has no bad side effects just shows me your character and how fucked up your overall thinking is !!! Un fucking Real !!! I have been using Herion for years now but I am not going to kid myself into thinking its some safe drug that has no side effects at all.Herion is buy far the most deadly street drug in th world. There is no drug that kills users like Herion does. In all my years of using Hard drugs about 99% of all the OD's I saw and heard off were from Opiates or Opiate related. 2 OD's I saw that were not from Opiates were one coke over dose and one Benzo/Alchool od thats it. Herion OD's and Deaths on the other hand tons proably over 50 and 5 deaths of people I knew 2 of which were pretty good friends.Your post show me you know nothing at all pretty much shit about Herion or hard opiates,Go out and use Dope and be around people who use and then post please.Have you ever seen any one who has been on Herion for a period of time ? You can sit there tell me that Herion has no side effects at all when looking at the person who has been using it. Yeah sure they just look like a fucking zombie for no reason right, I guess the Herion they are using has nothing to do with the fact that there eyes are sunk into there skull and there skin is as pale as a ghost ? Please find a better point to stand up for then Herion not being that dangerous. I have seen Herion kill enuff friends ruin enuff lives over the years. I used Herion and opiates for years and they are buy no means safe at all, especially for 15 year old kids !!!!! please man think before you post wack ass shit.Whats next saying that radiation in not that Deadly eather and safe for kids to play around ?

[fibre1]

^^ street Heroin is cut with shit, and it's hard to know the exact dose you're taking, this is why STREET HEROIN has some risks. Pure Heroin IS SAFE. You can purify street heroin or buy good quality Heroin. Heroin is one of the safest drugs there is. It's FAR SAFER for a 15 year-old to take Heroin than any antidepressant, antipsychotic, cannabis, LSD, ...

[NeuroDr]

no its not....this is getting ridiculous....LD50 for cannabis, LSD, shrooms, is sooooo ridiculously high that its damn impossible to overdose....LSD is considered non-toxic

[fibre1]

^^ These drugs cause psychosis.

[Shocbomb]

ok sure it is man sure sure it is ? I guess Its also safe for kids to play kick ball in a mind field ? There is no such thing as street Herion/pure Herion its all the same shit, its all comes down to how much its cut.Actually what you just said is totaly opposite when the purity of the Herion is high well the dope becomes is more deadly and dangerous not safer for the user.You will see alot more od's happen. Any one who knows about dope knows You will see more od's on a bag of dope thats 70% pure then a bag thats 30% pure !!!! There will never be a time or day the shooting a bag of Dope is safer then smoking a joint !!! What would make you even say such a thing.In all fairness I don't think you are that stupid I really don't think you believe what you say at all and are just saying it to be different ??? If you do really do think that kids in high school and people in general should Bang Bags of not just Herion but pure Herion instead of smoking blunts or taking bong hits or eating a few hits of LSD well then you need some help and need to study up on your drug info !!!!

[NeuroDr]

those drugs do not cause psychosis, they can exacerbate latent psychoses/mental disorders....but they do not cause them, and they do not cause any problems with the frequency that heroin does...

[Gsmall]

Sorry to say its true, all kids are dumb. Doesnt matter if you dont think you are, all that matters is that its pretty much a fact. Its proven right in your post.

"Well, moneys not a factor in this when your 15 and made a game ;) another point proven"


Trying to lie about money by saying you made a "game". What does that even mean? Just some bullshit that a kid would say. Doesnt even make sense. Your reasoning doesnt make sense and thats probably the dumbest lie I have heard in a while. No one just says "Oh money's not a problem cause I made a game" Honestly, that statement alone is just some kid bullshit, some stupid shit any 15 year old would say.

"I do admit a lot of kids my age are uneducated but not every one."

Once again you dont even know what you're talking about. Since when are a lot of 15 year olds not in school? Most of you ARE educated. Thats not even whats in question. Being smart and experienced and having knowledge is not the same as being educated in school. Its called being alive for more then 15 years and being in the REAL world outside of school and having common sense. Something you DONT have.

Sorry dude, you'll realize it eventually. You need to stop being a little douche and lay off the drugs. YOURE FUCKING 15 YEARS OLD KID! GO PLAY YOUR VIDEOGAME AND GET OFF DRUG FORUMS. You have no business here.

Im not usually an asshole but im tired of little ass kids like you. Not only making up bullshit 24/7, but also thinking that trying heroin or crack is a good choice. No one cares if you do that shit when you're older, but when you're 15 you DO NOT i repeat DO NOT know whats best for you. Thats why you have parents. Shit is just so annoying.

ok your very dense wars.eternal-network.org - my game havent released it yet used to be urbanwars when i had it released, saying all kids are dumb is wrong and your obviously one of those people who think they know every thing when theyre actualy the retarded one in society me being at a drug forum has nothing to do with age if you think that kids should be uneducated about drugs you shouldnt be here, i rarely lie about things i cant back up just because you were one of those lame kids that were dumb and had no friends growing up doesnt mean every kid is like you :)

[Gsmall]

They ARE worse. Shooting up heroin will have a good chance of killing you via resp. depression for someone with no opiate tolerance. That means someone jumping right to heroin being 15 years old. Very good chance of dying.lol my point on how retarded you are look at the first post and look at his age maybe thatll help you? probally not buddy, i didnt say i was shooting up heroin now gtfo you lame.

[fibre1]

Your preachy attitudes and LIES and EXAGGERATIONS about the danger of Heroin won't help the 15 year-old guy. Tell the truth and lose your sanctimonious attitudes!

[fibre1]

ok sure it is man sure sure it is ? I guess Its also safe for kids to play kick ball in a mind field ? There is no such thing as street Herion/pure Herion its all the same shit, its all comes down to how much its cut.Actually what you just said is totaly opposite when the purity of the Herion is high well the dope becomes is more deadly and dangerous not safer for the user.You will see alot more od's happen. Any one who knows about dope knows You will see more od's on a bag of dope thats 70% pure then a bag thats 30% pure !!!! There will never be a time or day the shooting a bag of Dope is safer then smoking a joint !!! What would make you even say such a thing.In all fairness I don't think you are that stupid I really don't think you believe what you say at all and are just saying it to be different ??? If you do really do think that kids in high school and people in general should Bang Bags of not just Herion but pure Herion instead of smoking blunts or taking bong hits or eating a few hits of LSD well then you need some help and need to study up on your drug info !!!!

The stuff Herion is cut with causes the problems, as does the uncertainty of strength of street Heroin. If you knew it was x mg of Heroin you'd be as likely to overdose as you would with aspirin -- it would have to be reckless or deliberate.

[fibre1]

those drugs do not cause psychosis, they can exacerbate latent psychoses/mental disorders....but they do not cause them, and they do not cause any problems with the frequency that heroin does...
Heroin causes no problems apart from constipation and nausea in most people. Hallucinogens and amphetamines can all cause psychosis.

[NeuroDr]

first of all, wheres the proof hallucinogens cause psychoses w/o predisposition? second, i never said amphetamines were good....i don't think amphetamines are anywhere near as safe as lsd and shrooms and weed....and third, addiction and death sound like pretty serious possible consequences dont you think?

i guess, if used properly, w/ restraint and with knowledge of exact dosage of pure heroin its no more dangerous than taking aspirin, as im sure there are cases of ppl doin heroin most of their life without many complications...but im also saying that weed, lsd, and shrooms are safer imo than aspirin, so thats still safer than heroin

side question for ppl....if morphine is legal as a medication, y isn't heroin? idk if there are specific reasons or if its the same bs as with all other drugs....

[fibre1]

first of all, wheres the proof hallucinogens cause psychoses w/o predisposition? second, i never said amphetamines were good....i don't think amphetamines are anywhere near as safe as lsd and shrooms and weed....and third, addiction and death sound like pretty serious possible consequences dont you think?

i guess, if used properly, w/ restraint and with knowledge of exact dosage of pure heroin its no more dangerous than taking aspirin, as im sure there are cases of ppl doin heroin most of their life without many complications...but im also saying that weed, lsd, and shrooms are safer imo than aspirin, so thats still safer than heroin

side question for ppl....if morphine is legal as a medication, y isn't heroin? idk if there are specific reasons or if its the same bs as with all other drugs....

Possible death is a consequence of taking too much aspirin, addiction is only a problem when you can't get the drug! The problem is doing weed and LSD for 10 years is more likely to cause health problems than Heroin. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm not against LSD or cannabis - I just know they're not as safe as Heroin.

Heroin is a legal prescription drug in Europe, not in the USA because of stupid laws based on bad science / flawed moral reasons.

[Shocbomb]

Herion is not a legal prescription in Europe its given to addicts just like Methadone is hear in the U.S. And please stop with all these excuses now and bulll shit. like its what the dope is cut with, pure dope is better and safer then weak dope. If the perosn used X amount of MG's each day they would be fine.Just stop you sound more stupid every dam post and its shows you know nothing about Herion or have ever been aorunf Herion addicts.You can sit there and say Herion is not dangerous all you want but 99.9% of people know those statments are full of shit and just are pretty much laughing at what you say, To be honest I think you know this to but just like to start arguments and controversy like alot of people do on message boards. Just buy your staments I can tell you have never used Herion or been around addcits becasue no one who has would think this ? Becasue if you have been around Herion you would have seen the horrors of the drug and what it can do to a person. Any one who has been around Herion addicts knows what its does to a perosn mentally and physically unlike what you say. It can rip a person appart mad quick.I have seen so many people Young kids in there late teens and early 20's who were healthy and in great shape and had a good Head on there shoulders with no mental problems at all look like a zombie and become so mentally fragile within a year or so later after getting addicted to Herion or Hard opiates. Its buy far one of the worst addictions out there if not the worst to get hooked on. Trying to live life when you are addicted to Herion is almost impossible for the addict and takes its tole on one very very quick. There are about 4 options when you are addicted to Herion and have a habbit. 1-Going to jail or prison 2-Becoming Homeless or always in financial trouble and staying a addict the rest of your life 3- OD's and Death 4-the best option you get help and get off the shit and clean up your life. Please man take a trip into any inner city area-THE GHETTO-or go to your nearest methaonde clinic and maybe this will show you first hand what herion can do to a person ask them how different they are physically and mentally sence they have been addicted to it ? I am still in shoc that you really think in your head that Weed and asprin are better for you then Herion. Its one of the dumbest things I think I have ever heard any one say.The funniset shit you said so far was a 10 year weed smoker will be worse off then a Person who has been addicted to Herion for 10 years.To be honest I wish that were true I really really do.


PS- What you say about if a drug addict took a certain MG number every day of Dope this would be safe ? hears another thing thats shows me you know nothing about Dope. No one who does dope wants to do just a certain amount to get normal if one took the same dose every day they would not get high and are just better off taking methadone. With Herion you need more and more to get high Thats why people use more and more of it. The bottom line is no opiates are safe at all. Some are safer then others though. Herion and all hard core opiates like OC's,Dilaudid,Morphine etc are very dangerous and if you don't know what you are doing with them you are pretty much playing russian roulette. And the odds of someone who is 15 dying isa lot higher then a person who is older and knows there drugs and how to use. I wish People would learn on hear how deadly playinig around with opiates can be. Maybe after there first OD they will get it or worse yet when one of there friends or loved ones dies.

[MDA]

ok your very dense wars.eternal-network.org - my game havent released it yet used to be urbanwars when i had it released, saying all kids are dumb is wrong and your obviously one of those people who think they know every thing when theyre actualy the retarded one in society me being at a drug forum has nothing to do with age if you think that kids should be uneducated about drugs you shouldnt be here, i rarely lie about things i cant back up just because you were one of those lame kids that were dumb and had no friends growing up doesnt mean every kid is like you :)Does using grammer hurt your brain? What a long ass run on sentence. Every post you make you just prove more and more that you are just like every other dumbass kid. Making shit up as you go and hopin people believe it. Nothing more funnier then some little kid who thinks he/she's hot shit. You rarely lie about things you cant backup? Hahah okay. Im sure the video game you are making is really going to take off. Hahahaha. Sorry Im just done listening to retarded piece of shit kids that think they're hot shit. Its too fucking annoying. You're too fucking annjoying. You cant even respond intelligently to what I said. You just blabber on tryin to turn around what I said or just say some dumb shit that doesnt even make sense. Sorry but you still FAIL kid. Peace.

Oh I still cant believe you tried to say that money isnt a problem for you because you made a game? Hahahaha, have fun with your game and your loads and loads of cash. LOL.

[Painfree2day]

Shoc,I am really starting to enjoy your posts,and I agree with all your advice to this kid !100%,even though I think he is just a rejected kid with too much time on his hands and is trolling forums and lying about most of what he has posted,sounds like he is practicing to be a attention whore to me! dosnt matter really,just my opinion! You seem to know alot about heroin except how to spell it!lol, but I overlook that because of the truth you share about it, I respect that! spell it anyway you want,its a very long dark road that leads to no where! I have never tried it and never will,but have lost many friends because of it, no one will ever convince me that it is less dangerous than aspirin,no fucking way in the world! peace! pf2d

[Shocbomb]

Thanks painfree, I know my spelling sucks balls. Sometimes I go back and fix it and structure my sentences and grammer better after I read over my post and see how bad it was. What happens is I have 1000 dam things going threw my mind that I want to say and get out and my typing goes way to fast. As for knowing about Herion I guess I should know about it was pretty much my Job and my life for about 8 years. To be honest I wish I knew shit about Dope or other hard drugs like Crack/coke. The more you usally know about them the more they have fucked up your life ????? I am buy no way anti Drugs I just wish people and manily young kids would be smart about the way they use. I have been around to many OD's and people who have fucked up there life becasue of hard drugs like Herion,Coke,and pills .I live in a small town its a white middle class town not some inner city Ghetto eather. Drugs have messed up so many young kids and famailies hear its just crazy.We are only 30 miles away form Ny City and becasue of that this town is over ran with all sorts of Drugs.Its a boring town for kids to grow up in and the problem is there is nothing for kids to do but get high and hang out.

[ava]

i wasn't going to reply to this thread, as it has all been said by others but i couldn't help myself i can tell you stories of body bags, murder and supporting your habit any way you can


being 16, you never think it will happen to you ie pregnancy, trees not bending when your car hits them, death. many people your age think older people are fuckwits. we may be fuckwits, but we have experience

a few points
you take human growth hormone, so it is muscular, not thru a vein do you take for hormone problems usually related to something going haywire in puberty or do you have a chronic disease such as renal?

you went on a cruise, i am assuming with family? do you have problems with them? if you didn't want to go, why did you this guy gave you a hit and walked away??? did you see him again? i find this bizarre

you think you know of dealers at school, they are probably selling crap to kids who have no idea what is going on in your life that you feel the need to take smack are you having drama at school

i have never seen people get hooked with one hit, but there is always a first time. i can't give you any idea of prices,unless there is a dry spell it cannot be that hard to get it always use clean fits try a little first don't be greedy
make sure you shoot up properly because you can really injure yourself dont use the same needle spot

if you continue to take H, ten years will fly by and you will have nothing


edited to say that it sounds like you shared a needle on the cruise you need to get checked for Hep C

[gimme_danger]

shocomb, what are your experiences smoking H? if you have any that is. the dope you get on the east coast is mostly powder? ive been smoking tar occasionally for just a few weeks and except for the first time its been kinda disappointing. i feel light headed and i get this slightly nauseous feeling in my stomach. probably not smoking enough to get the 'euphoric' feeling which ive yet to experience. when i get that uneasy feeling i stop smoking cuz i think if i continue i will vomit.

[Gsmall]

Does using grammer hurt your brain? What a long ass run on sentence. Every post you make you just prove more and more that you are just like every other dumbass kid. Making shit up as you go and hopin people believe it. Nothing more funnier then some little kid who thinks he/she's hot shit. You rarely lie about things you cant backup? Hahah okay. Im sure the video game you are making is really going to take off. Hahahaha. Sorry Im just done listening to retarded piece of shit kids that think they're hot shit. Its too fucking annoying. You're too fucking annjoying. You cant even respond intelligently to what I said. You just blabber on tryin to turn around what I said or just say some dumb shit that doesnt even make sense. Sorry but you still FAIL kid. Peace.

Oh I still cant believe you tried to say that money isnt a problem for you because you made a game? Hahahaha, have fun with your game and your loads and loads of cash. LOL.ok, so i only read the first few sentences lol all i have to say is im not wasting time on something thats not worth any time at all :)

[salmon4me]

The whole damn thread was useless. Apparently heroin is good for you. LMAO. Thread closed.