The Akashic Records

[Bl4ck3n3D]

http://www.crystalinks.com/akashicrecords.html

[xexon]

The Akashic Records are just magazines in a bus station compared to where the bus itself can go.

Go to the bathroom and get back on the bus. :)


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[liquidlight]

Xexon ... why do you have to belittle everything people say? People give their thoughts on something and you come along and poo poo it. How about joining in and discussing?

Anyway i think the 'akashic records' are just there, it is simply the knowledge of spirit that is omnipresent. Connect with spirit and you and you connect with it's knowledge.

[xexon]

If you can disprove what I say, by all means take your best shot.

You'll notice my title is Destroyer of Worlds.

Why do you think that is?

God is not something that is static and motionless. It continuously evolves, and your opinion of what God is should do likewise.

Belief gets you into trouble with me. It means you've timed out.


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[liquidlight]

Disprove what exactly? Anyway you know well that i cannot prove or disprove anything.
My opinion of what god/goddess is, is always evolving ... so we can both rest on that one.

As for the last bit ... ?!

[Bl4ck3n3D]

I don't think Xexon belittles me in anyway, he's just putting his perspect on what the akashic records are. His post made sense, but to say the akashic records are of no importance or use is absurd, the akashic is showing itself.

[liquidlight]

Sure, thats exactly what i meant ... that he was belittling the akashic records. Magazines indeed!

[radareyes]

If you're concerned that Xexon, the exalted "destroyer of worlds" isn't a human being with frailties and misperceptions (and dare I say beliefs, Xexon? ;)) that can be exposed and dismissed just as he exposes and dismisses the frailties and misperceptions of others, you should read some of my exchanges with him. I've had him backed into a corner on more then one occasion (and he knows it :)).

Even his above challenge to "take your best shot" is a direct contradiction of statements he made during a conversation with me just days ago -- and I quote: "I don't want to get into deep waters over this" (cop-out :)), and "I have no tongue for debates" (a likely story, rationalized by a belief that "debates are an exercise of the mind not of the spirit", which I of course refuted :)).

That being said, I can't think of a contributer to the forums here that I have greater respect for. While the delivery of his wisdom can sometimes seem harsh, it's only the ego-bound individuals that respond by becoming offended, vindictive, or righteously indignant.

If you find yourself having a similar response, I'd recommend developing some humility -- and a little perspective probably wouldn't hurt either.

Travis

[xexon]

The messenger is still human, despite the message. All frailties included. :)

Even Jesus picked his nose.

My point about the Akashic records is it can still be seen as a diversion on the path. Look them over, but don't become so enchanted by what you see that forward motion stops.

There are many such diversions on the path.



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[radareyes]

The messenger is still human, despite the message. All frailties included. :)


In your case, yes.


Even Jesus picked his nose.


This belief of yours, trivial though it may seem, raises several interesting questions. Physiological respones to external stimuli are no doubt affected by higher consciousness. The chances of becoming ill are reduced, and due to a dissociation with the body, normally autonomic functions like mucus production and intestinal gas are deemphasized. That being the case, the answer as to whether or not Jesus picked his nose would actually be spiritually significant. Even if his body did produce the amount of mucus needed for nasal accretion (the formation of boogers), wouldn't a desire to remove them be succumbing to a neurosis based on a fixation with external conditions? That being that case, I think it's much more likely that Jesus actually didn't pick his nose -- and probably didn't need to.

By the way, a not altogether serious interpretation of the above analysis is encouraged. :)


My point about the Akashic records is it can still be seen as a diversion on the path. Look them over, but don't become so enchanted by what you see that forward motion stops.

There are many such diversions on the path.


This I agree with wholeheartedly. The new age communities' greatest downfall is their preoccupation with what might be called "fringe spirituality", meaning that they allow phenomena produced by higher consciousness, such as astral projection, the galactic federation, and yes, the Akashic records, to take precedence over the higher consciousness itself.

Travis

[xexon]

Jesus would like pick his nose with complete awareness of doing do. It wouldn't be an instinctive reaction to a nasal irritation as with most.

Its like how a zen master can pluck a fly out of the air with his chopsticks. Heightened awareness of not only self, but surroundings as well.

And this is how the path begins. An ever expanding sphere of awareness that eventually engulfs all of creation.



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[radareyes]

Jesus would like pick his nose with complete awareness of doing do. It wouldn't be an instinctive reaction to a nasal irritation as with most.


A good point. However, it's based on the presupposition that nose-picking isn't an inherently neurotic behavior, and that mucus production isn't curtailed by the attainment of higher states of consciousness (which it is).
So I still say, it could go either way.


Its like how a zen master can pluck a fly out of the air with his chopsticks. Heightened awareness of not only self, but surroundings as well.


"Miyagi say, you beginner luck". :)


And this is how the path begins. An ever expanding sphere of awareness that eventually engulfs all of creation.


And in the process, transmutes it.

Travis

[xexon]

I think nose picking is just good body upkeep. No different that getting something stuck in you eye and needing to remove it. Its just something you do to maintain the physical upkeep of your vehicle.

It still requires a certain amount of awareness though. Can you imagine women applying lipstick by instinct alone?

It requires the ability to watch what you're doing. Same as a spiritual path.




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[radareyes]

I think nose picking is just good body upkeep. No different that getting something stuck in you eye and needing to remove it. Its just something you do to maintain the physical upkeep of your vehicle.

Yes, but haven't you noticed that as you progress along the path, the physical upkeep of your vehicle becomes maintained to a greater degree by spirit and to a lesser degree by your own conscious intentions? To continue with your example of getting something stuck in your eye, as a result of my personal experiences, I've become nearly convinced that it's virtually impossible for this to happen unless the energy of your third eye isn't functioning optimally. A fully functioning third eye literally produces what you might call an energetic shield, protecting your physical eyes from potential eye irritants. I've found this phenomenon to be applicable to nearly all aspects our physical form. It's kind of like the universe saying, "you don't have to worry about the body anymore. I'll take care of that from now on. You just keep striving to realize your true identity."


It still requires a certain amount of awareness though. Can you imagine women applying lipstick by instinct alone?

It requires the ability to watch what you're doing. Same as a spiritual path.

It's interesting that you chose to use this particular metaphor, because I'd be inclined to believe that the act of applying lipstick is another example of an inherently neurotic behavior. It seems to me that its sole function is to fullfill a societally conditioned notion of what it means to be attractive on a physical level -- which of course means that a woman wouldn't be compelled to apply lipstick while in a heightened state of awareness.

Travis

[liquidlight]

If you're concerned that Xexon, the exalted "destroyer of worlds" isn't a human being with frailties and misperceptions (and dare I say beliefs, Xexon? http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif) that can be exposed and dismissed just as he exposes and dismisses the frailties and misperceptions of others, you should read some of my exchanges with him. I've had him backed into a corner on more then one occasion (and he knows it).

Even his above challenge to "take your best shot" is a direct contradiction of statements he made during a conversation with me just days ago -- and I quote: "I don't want to get into deep waters over this" (cop-out), and "I have no tongue for debates" (a likely story, rationalized by a belief that "debates are an exercise of the mind not of the spirit", which I of course refuted http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif).

That being said, I can't think of a contributer to the forums here that I have greater respect for. While the delivery of his wisdom can sometimes seem harsh, it's only the ego-bound individuals that respond by becoming offended, vindictive, or righteously indignant.

If you find yourself having a similar response, I'd recommend developing some humility -- and a little perspective probably wouldn't hurt either.Oh, i have ego in me alright. It's a rare person who doesn't ... and sure xexon has rattled me slightly with the way he comes accross (these are my first impressions anyway, ..i've only been here a few weeks) as talking to people as if they are in kindergarten compared to his superior level of understanding. I see nobody else here presuming so mutch. But my ego is not so large as to see past it. I've had some stupendous ego battles in my time (just a few) and they serve a purpose in giving you something to push against and learn from whenever that may be the case. I'm certainly not gonna start flaming the guy because i know who i am, and hence, know who he is also ...deep down. Heck sometimes i agree with him when he's not in 'harsh mode'.
Indeed he has said himself that he is somewhere between the valley and the mountaintop ... which is pretty mutch where i, and a whole load of others are right now. Doing the journey... and the valley and the mountaintop give meaning to the journey. But i have before now visited the mountaintop so i know what he's on about. The valley is beautiful from up there because it's only from up there that one can truly see and understand it for what it is. Without ego. ...may we all find our way there again.

As for the akashic records, it's just a part of the whole thing, ...as valid as any other part and something of interest to me which is why i looked in on the thread in the first place and see what was being said and maybe add a comment or two ... not to raise it up or put it down.

I wonder if Jesus could have survived on recycling bogeys in the wilderness ... like the desert suits in the film 'Dune'. Eh? And i'm pretty sure he wouldn't have given a stuff what anyone thought. With awareness or not. Like the Bhudda with his flower, Jesus could have taught sublime meaning just by sitting there picking his nose. 'Ears to hear, eyes to see ... and noses to pick.' http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[radareyes]

Oh, i have ego in me alright. It's a rare person who doesn't ...and sure xexon has rattled me slightly with the way he comes accross (these are my first impressions anyway, ..i've only been here a few weeks) as talking to people as if they are in kindergarten compared to his superior level of understanding. I see nobody else here presuming so mutch

Maybe I didn't phrase my statement correctly -- I'm not trying to say that only those who've completely transcended ego will remain unphased by Xexon. I'm trying to say that allowing yourself to be "rattled" in the way that you did (i.e. becoming offended, defensive, and a tad righteously indignant) is indicative of ego indulgence. If you didn't think he had a point on some level of your being, no amount of "presumption" could aggravate you.


As for the akashic records, it's just a part of the whole thing, ...as valid as any other part and something of interest to me which is why i looked in on the thread in the first place and see what was being said and maybe add a comment or two ... not to raise it up or put it down.


The Akashic records are only valid as a means to an end, not as an end unto themselves. The problem with elaborate means of facilitating the upliftment of consciousness, such as the Records, is that one's ego is naturally more susceptible to forming attachments. Like I stated before, this is often the case with "new age"-oriented phenomena. As a result, in addition to the myriad of egos that populate the realm of samsara, we now have the "new age" ego. This is not only a disservice to the individual who has formed the ego attachment, but also to the mass consciousness, (you know, those folks down in "the valley") who can now make mockeries of Deepak Chopra and Yanni almost as easily as they can GW and Britney Spears.

"Raising up" and "putting down" are mere value judgements. Discernment is an entirely different animal.

Travis