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(oldwolf)


The peaceful sound of the cricket echoing in the night and the scudding shadow of the wolf as it co-mingles with the fires of fellowship, thank you for your blessings and may your Work carry you forward along you Path.
Moving onto the land around May day, opening house on summer solstice in a gathering of celebration of Existence. Hope to have the water facilities
bus functioning by then - Have to put the pump and pipes down the well and get that system functioning first; with a kitchen going in a lean to beside it, which will make cleanlineess and cut down on the timeliness of keeping
the physical well maintained. Expect to have green house and garden in by then, and maybe even the new septic near completion - depends on how soon I get the backhoe working here (will have to use the old system till then).
The temporary sheds shouild be up and the storage moved from the house trailers - those and the travel trailers cleaned out and moved; the wreckage of the old homestead salvaged and the waste hauled off; the vehicles moved to a
consolidated point in easy proximity to the projected shop/barn area; the road into the hollow upgraded ; and.... got my work cut out for me -gurglegurgle - catch you when I next come up for air.

Much Love - Aireal sends her respects, salutations, and blessings along as well.


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We enhance the quality of Existence
We fulfill our potential in a manner beneficial to All
We seek Full Awareness, Total Cooperation
and Complete Union with our GodSelf
Surrounded with Love........Mind creates the concept
Full of Love......................Desire provides the motivation
Channels of Love..............Doing is the test
One with Love

Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
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nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com
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(Dent)

Old Wolf. It sounds like things are moving along. Keep up the good work.
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(oldwolf)

Thank you Dent.
The bulldozer and backhoe should be coming up this week along with a front end loader. Sometimes, especially when working alone, you just got to bite the bullet until you get the equipment if you want to see significant progress.
Things have been moving slower than I anticipated but still expect to have the water facilities bus up, old septic and well pump hooked up by then, and the road in widened and accessible to big trucks (almost 2 miles - 1/3 up the hill 1/3 going across the top and 1/3 going down into the hollow). Doubt I'll get the house trailers being used as storage set up, but will have 2 travel trailers, a pick up camper, and an old winnebago set up.
Hey Dent is that farm pictured in your reply your place ? - if so, you definitely have a lot to show for your efforts - it's a real beauty.

Blessings with you and yours
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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
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nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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(Dent)

When we moved to this farm there was no electricity or plumbing, and we moved in with 60 cows. It was real tough for awhile and I can understand what your going through. But it seems like the only way to go if your going to stay free.

The farm in the picture is a place where Kathy and I used to work. The people there weren't into community so we had to leave and start from nothing. You just gotta make sure everything is right from the bottom up.
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(hhb)

How much land do you have old wolf?
Err well you know what i meen..

Could you provide a ariel photo?
Its easy,, just go to,

<http://terraserver.com/>

Then find the closest city and spend a couple hours heading your direction and keep narrowing down and before ya know it..boom your there,, ours is somewhere buried in our home page.. a topo helps as well..
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MTN Goat & Katey Mae
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(oldwolf)

Heya HHB,

Not quite willing to put exact location out in the public yet, till we're up there permanent.....did e mail you the coordinates of topo - right now it's 175 acres - could be 400 by end of summer depending on how I can run financing and neighbors willingness to sell - 2 pieces are landlocked by same highway that landlocked us (have access now [2mile driveway]):1 piece20 a. , other 70 a., and another piece that's not landlocked at 100 a. - that will be expensive - about$350>$400/A. ...

fortune smile on you as you make your Way
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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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(themnax)

i wish i wish i wish
i was there helpin you
i've run backhoe, not that it takes a rocket scientist
but of course there is a bit too it
from the sound of things i'd guess goat has too

ave grunt and clumbsum too
but i'm so nonforward about stuff
that i'm never able to get accross what i can do
(or more importantly my willingness to do it)
that i hardly ever get to do it
but then i'm just as happy on the handle of an idiot stick
when knowin that's helpin out too

about the only constructive thing i know to say with my words
is my dreams and blessing go with you

and i think you're absolutely right to be real cautious about not yet wishing to
publicly give everyone and his cousin your geophysical location.

i've sometimes forgotten to keep my mouth shut about good things and seen them ruined because of it, and that's the last thing i'd ever want to see happen

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(oldwolf)

Yeah - I've seen some attempts go under because the locals reacted to plans made public without first seeing what the reality was like. As well the first few that come aboard must be more likeminded and harder workers than the norm to get it off the ground.
And rain, must be the whole east coast - we're getting soaking after soaking up here (finger lakes region - 60 m. N of PA. border) too. Heavy equipment supposed to be coming in today - a TD14, 2 of em for less than most would pay for 1 (1 for parts) and large backhoe attachment (3 ton -28' reach) that I can take offn it and on a little bigger tractor than the ones I have yet. Walk in the fields squish squish - even brushhogging is tricky. Moving much slower than anticipated due to rain rain rain - but established growth is taking off - field growth on trees I really should clear to keep the arable land tillable is going to be phenomenal this year. Didn't put the garden in when it was a wee bit drier and too wet for the last... - damn
Once the rain stops will be able to do a lot with the equipment, but although fairly set up with equipment and tools, finances depleting faster than anticipated as well - buying more land and building will take some additional funds - gotta go buy a lotery ticket - catch you on the fly.
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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
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nomadhermit@hotmail.com

[oldwolf]

(7Rivers)

good golly gee wezicers!!!

oldwolf,

I just found this and my head started hurting reading all them letters you typed but damn I'm just too excieted to try and find the info...and I have domestic chores, could you read my journal on homesteading(its short) and fill me in...sounds like your not set up yet?

maybe you can cut the chase for me after reading the journal and let me know if we're on the same track.

peace love and laughter
-river
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(oldwolf)

heya 7rivers,

Yah have noticed you and don't think we're that far apart ideologically speaking. You might want to read some of Old Crone stuff as well - Aireal and I have been together as Work/Mates for the last 10 yrs. And i know there's some slogging - been meaning to find the time to go through the *Land, Community, Gatherings* thread and make it a bit easier reading and not quite so long winded; as well the *Waysharing* post gives a more intimate look inside of us - and that's a bit easier reading.
Sending you an e mail with directions and phone number - know it's short notice but our first official get together is happening this next weekend (6/20>22) bring the kids on up and see if the land and people speak to you all.
Hoping to see you then
Blessing on you and yours.
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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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(7 Rivers)

Oldwolf

Thanks for the Invite! Got the email...sounds great! I'm planning on coming. Just have to do some aligning here...I will give you a commitment by monday(is that too late?) Looks like a 5 hr drive...is there going to be other kids there? Amanda's 13 and Zachary's 10. If not maybe I'll come alone, they get bored with my lifestyle and I don't want to focus on their entertainment...speaking of that, if your not busy hosting a slew of guests, I would be into helping with some of those projects you have going on. To me, working together is a great way to get to know each other.
Is movingcloud on the forums as well?

peace love and laughter,
-river
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(oldwolf)

River,

Would be surprised if a slew of people showed up. Only 2 requests since I posted about open house a few months ago and maybe 6 or 7 prior. Have asked everyone keep private the particulars of adress and tel # - until the community is established legally - seen local hassles stymie attempts before they really got started.
Been talk of doing forum gatherings before and the land here has been offered for well over a year. Community attempt has been public on the forums for over 3 years.
Too much work and Talkin ain't the same as Walkin it and too many don't realize the pleasure and fellowship that goes along with the Doing.
The 2 that asked directions for the open house did have children but have not replied back since directions were sent as to whether they were planning on coming or not - my intuition says not. So the kids are welcome, but can't promise that there will be others to keep them in trouble - I mean occupied.
Moving_cloud of the forums (moderator of dreams forum) will be here. She also has a personal forum and a public journal (enhanced features)
We're only 90 minutes from Binghampton and the same from Syracuse - presume you'll be coming the southern tier expressway (new partialy active I. 86) - If your planning on coming I. 90 get off at Geneva and take Rt.21.

Help is always welcome, got lots of equipment but only 1 operator and so much of it takes 2 - though working solo teaches you all kinds of new tricks to be able to make what takes 2 or more only take 1.

Glad you can make it - was afraid it might be too short a notice seeing as you just found out about it.

See you next week.
Blessings on y'all
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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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(7 Rivers)

Hello Oldwolf!

I'm definatly coming this weekend! IT will not come too soon!

Met some great young folks (early 20's) at a full moon gathering saturday. Their looking for a sustainable community. I still don't know all the details of yours, but it's going to be great to connect and do some work!

peace love and laughter,
-river

Have to take the kids to relatives in the city, so I don't know my eta yet. I was thinking saturday morn.
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(oldwolf)

Ayyup... Whelp ..Ahuh , first come together of a supposedly quarterly nature (to celebrate the earth cycles not for fiscal reports)...
Moving Cloud bless her braced herself for the short trip over and though we never see enough of each other, we look forward to working throughout the seasons.
7 river came up from downstate and we talked mightily into the wee hours of the morn - luckily I work through much of the nights and so got to repeat my stories only infrequently. He wishes us luck as do we him in our quests to find those people/land/timing when we can "Feel" it's right and strive to make ourselves more open to making it happen as we jockey our ways through life.
Son came down from Rochester with a friend and has since left for his first rainbow national - ahh glad that my own time was one much earlier when there was more purity - you could see for miles before the landscape was so befouled by the greenhouse gasses of so many bipeds speaking at once as they race to overpopulate the fragile balances in an unsustainable eco-system.
No wonder the earth is warming - too much hot air.
Course there was Aireal and me and those who thought about it but it wasn't quite "right" , we thank them for their warm thoughts.


Well.. had a lot of rain... equipment was held up, gots plenty of excuses - it's happening but sometimes it feels like the peristalsis hasn't started in yet. Maybe just some movement needed....

so... next meet is fall eqinox when the colors happen and Germany again allows her finest to travel, and then winter when we see if we've prepared enough, then on to spring when we find out if we made it through alive, to another rebirth in the muddy rites of spring and the renewed life it brings, as we begin anew

Ahh the cycles and change and how it happens ... so slowly that as you blink the horizon becomes crowded and then the storm in the night wipes clean the new dawn for what this day may bless us with and what we bring to it.

Take a deep breath and go deeper
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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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(7 Rivers)

The visit far exceded any expectations I may have had.
I feel I have made five friends, and in general it's great to see someones eyes when their laughing or give them a hug.

Hmmmm, the hollow did speak to me, and I am looking forward to visiting again.

peace love and laughter,
-river
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Strange days indeed -- most peculiar, mama

[oldwolf]

(themnax)

didn't send for an invite cause i'm over here on this other coast and kind of tied down to where i am
but i'm really happy to hear how well things went and all

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Could feel several people who would have liked to come were the timing different.
And you know - it's up to you.
Every season we give a shout of joy and praise and give reverend thanks for the many blessings constantly awaiting us.
Though I tend to call my self pagan - I am put off by any who try to take a part and call it the Whole. Close minded people who cannot see that belief means may OR may not be true - Faith is giving credence to a belief regardless of whether it may or may not be true..... - all are welcome and all rites are recognized as but focusing devices....as a walker of the Middle Way I do not strengthen either side in their righteous struggle to be Correct or the primary cause or whatever and instead praise existence which is far more inclusive
The old pagan rede and "ye harm none" stands well the test of time and the mystic schools of "Know ThySelf" and the esoteric of "To thine own Self be true" seem to fit in well with "do unto others"..... I find personal experience to be the final arbiter here - and if it don't ring true then maybe it ain't, but as well it might be that a larger perspective will as well enlarge the perspective - yeah I know redundant as hell but ain't it so ?
Don't practice any religion except that of Awareness - and to that end find myself in long periods of quiet - and then at others i may run off at the mouth ahh well cycles and not being attached can also mean that I don't have to take it so personally either - just the ebb and flow of the universe breathing.

Damn that's what happens when you go away and come back several times - disjointed meanderings

Any and all help is respectfully received, any help we may aid you along your Way - the gift is the blessing ...So much help comes by way of the good energy from those who send positive thoughts our way.
We wish that each might follow through on the visions that are theirs for the claiming - to be acted on... and so bring greater Wholeness to All

Are you Doing it ?
No matter how good the excuse, it does not negate that you are not Doing that which you Know is yours to do... guilt helps no one doesn't even work that well in self pity parties, but if you let it , guilt also will try to keep you from acting on the change inherent in every new NOW of Existence
Be all you can Be yup yup
yup see you later

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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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(oldwolf)

my gawd another month flown bye bye
aeei chingowa got not much done .......my equipment man singing his blues about how much he's not making and how things are not coming together right and I still don't have what i payed for, patience has withered; and the rain - don't think we've had 3 days of dry in a row since ...winter ? yeah, the garden a drownin didn't happen( yeah but only because i didn't get around to it with all the rain - excuses excuses) and leafy plants go, but slugs are up too. Mowing has become a way of life and never seems to stop; if avoided for 2 weeks you almost cannot tell it was ever mowed.
Still dealing with zoning on equipment and number of unregistered vehicles present - told them I would be happy to get rid of any I did not have a reason for - some are waiting till the shop and storage are available to salvage motors for usage in power (off the grid) and pumping) and the building inspector is the same person - gotta love these small towns that get dictated to by the county, state and federal goverments as to what rings they must put us through...

ach late - i'll get back to this in edit style ....sometime, over the rainbow...

(aug. 12 5:45AM)
Any who,...I apologize for my lack of communications - focusing on actually moving up onto the land - I’ve always known that the only way to make it happen is to act as if and that means living there. With the ground line (tel.) Broken and grounded out in spots, until fixed and or a new put in.... wanted to wait till the good road in and put a ditched electric and phone cable capable of multiple hookups. May try cellular first and may be forced to go satellite , but that’s a bit expensive..... but communications will not get better till they go through an even drier spell as I actually move up there and start setting up for permanent residence - and hopefully the weather will dry up a bit, although with the equipment on hand, I will be able to make headway, unless it gets even wetter - the ground is saturated now and water is standing in the fields - a great time to put drainage in - you can see where it’s needed.
Love the quiet time the route gives me - gotta remember to wear ear plugs or quiet time is all I’ll get (dozer and tractors are loud) - but the time when your out driving and there’s not much else to do but let your mind drift over whatever has your attention at the moment. Over the years I’ve developed a pretty decent recall over my last few stops - even when on auto pilot (when thinking on a topic overrides thinking about the delivery stops and autopilot runs the show as the attention is on the deer and driving and whatever I have focused on) - so I get some quality time with whatever burbles it’s way up or demands immediate attention.
Sometimes it feels as if I am moving in slow motion and feelings of impatience and urgency can rear their heads to tell me I’m not moving fast enough ... for what I ask, and receive no reply....

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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
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nomadhermit@hotmail.com

[oldwolf]

(Painted flame)

i wonder if a future life is altered by actions undertaken in this one?

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oldwolf)

With the assumption that there is a next life, logic would dictate that there is a connectivity - to say how that works without aware experiential knowledge is what most "authorities" do - and those with experiential knowledge are hard pressed to communicate something that doesn't translate.

Chaos > no time no space - thought is translated immediately into manifestation in the Now - no ramifications other than where those mind games you play with yourself might lead you.

Can one stand aside without judgement. The reason that our energy output (thinking and it's cohorts) must be monitored is that it is manifested in the chaos where All Is. This is why we must learn to traverse the abyss, without the prerequesite one pointed concentration and detachment it is hard to keep one's bearing and direction when all thoughts are anifest.
Why many prefer using the astral gateway - the middle path demands the ability to harness concentration.
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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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(Freesue)

love this....


With the assumption that there is a next life, logic would dictate that there is a connectivity - to say how that works without aware experiential knowledge is what most "authorities" do - and those with experiential knowledge are hard pressed to communicate something that doesn't translate


Never heard it said any better and more simply than this Oldwolf..."..hard pressed to communicte something that does not translate..." I will remember this one..

BTW...could you send some of your rain this way? We have not had rain in over 7 weeks now and the temps have been in the mid nineties, and the heat indices near 110 everyday. It's so dry we are getting cracks at least 2 or more inches wide, and no one knows how deep, in the ground. Ponds, drying up, grass dying, trees showing heat stress...haven't had to mow all month. Just take the weed-eater around a bit and knock down the only thing growing...

Peace

Sue

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(oldwolf)

Well Sue you can have as much of it as you would like - but you'll have to come and take it away - seem to have a stalled front constantly dumping rain, at a minimum of once every 3 days; lately we've had precipitation every day. - Starting to learn to work in it - of necessity.
Surplus vehicles leave the property over the next 2 weeks and building starts shortly thereafter. Shop and vehicle storage go up first so that winter maintenance and repair can give us a leg up for spring.
Will probably plow and put in some rye before snow fall to plow under in the spring for buckwheat, to loosen the soil and fix some nitrogen in it. It'll feel good to be working the soil again - been too long. Green houses should go up before winter too - but that'll depend on the weather and how soon we get shut down by snow and hard ground freeze.
At this point there's one on the land and come spring it looks like 2, with Aireal keeping the village house running till we set up communications, electric, and more stable living quarters and of course till the house actually sells(been on the market for over a year now).
Having the shop up and running will make all the difference in the world - maybe we can actually get some consistent forward motion instead of the 10 step back, 2 forward shuffle that I've been doing. You know fix that so you can do this. Come spring we'll be clearing the fields and move toward actual cash crops with the green houses running year round and the the pond system and pumping station (lots of piping needed for that) slated for after mud season. Forest cleaning and during the summer/fall even some dwellings going - should all go well - lol. So much will depend on the winter work in the shop.
Moving on, things slowly taking shape - even some progress to be seen. yee ha (bout time !)
Looks like the zoning battle is winding down with channels of communication and some understandings arrived at through mutual compromises.
Have not moved on the purchase of more lands though I expect to open communication about that soon, but have to be careful not to over-extend our income and debt levels.
A couple more people showed some interest, but have not yet appeared to visit the land or meet the people. We continue to have open house everystart of each season, but numbers have not yet reached a dozen attending. As I stated somewhere, on some post in this forum - we are not pushing for people to be part of this unless the land, people, and what we're trying to do here speaks to their heart and they feel drawn to partake. Need quality, not quantity.

So that's it for the update till winter sets in and I can say what actually got done before most of the outside work is slowed by frozen ground - goes to around 2 1/2 > 3' usually, with a 4' foundation and water pipe depth to make sure.

You all have a great time - Catch you on the fly - bye
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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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(oldwolf)

Whelp - hope y'all had a great samhain (halloween) or for yuo all in the Southern hemisphere May day (see iffn you don't use it you lose it - what's the other name of it)

was too late to plow for rye even last time I wrote in here - not much of a farmer - gotta lot of learning ahead there - gardening yeah, but on a large scale is quite different.

Vehicles are still being moved and put in 1 area and Equipment, tools and materials are being taken off the ground, and a covering for what is needed, will be up if possible before this winter settles in. It's nice to be up on the land - makes it much more real to say you are doing it when you live where you Do. Still coming down to the village house for computer time and to keep open communications with Aireal as well (she's maintaining the village house, until it's sold or her place is ready in the hollow - hopefully her place will be ready before it sells).

We're going for separate hermitages with gatherings together where ever the hearts leads, some central location of trailers (Travel trailers - the 2 house trailers are not empty from storage yet [workshop/barn needed first]) at the old homestead site which is where the workdhop/barn kitchen, water, and central gathering place will be.

Expect the pump in the well, the 5,000 gal water tank up, and the water bus (Hot water, sinks, warm stove, tub and shower, and laundry facilities) to be in place by end of November. Probably put a bubbler in the large water tank to keep it from freezing - that means the battery system has to be there enough to take up the slack when the generators are not running.

Looks like I'll be making more work to make do , putting up a temporary heated shop so that I can work on the equipment and get it all serviced and repaired for the push in spring.
Got a bunch of steel palletts (hefty big shelving) that can actually be used structurally for building walls, and will use them as the walls, sheathing them with roofing metal, as a tempoary measure. Planning to use the big trees around the homestead, which are fairly well in line to act as supports for the temporary roof (- a combination of trusses, telephone poles, metal roofing, and tarps - maybe some heavy construction or greenhouse plastic as well).
Mainly need to make sure that the twenty step back shuffle to fix before using does not keep stymying forward progression and we can actually see some thing is happening.

Road was pushed through but have to do a lot of york raking and maybe even rent a grader and roller to make it so that winter access is easier (-one of the pieces of equipment that came with the 4 WD tractor I got was a 6' wide snow blower - was told it throws snow 60'>90' - wow).

Logging is done Yeah, didn't really want to, but it ended up being a really good move - for farm status so the zoning officer could get off my back - farmers get a lot of breaks, but the definition here says you goota make money ($10,000/yr) at it. Plus a lot of raw materials and roadways made for forest cleaning and building locations access.

Next meeting is celebrating the coming of light- and there is a light at the end of the tunnel no matter how dark it may seem.

Blessings with you all - Grow On - Enjoy !
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Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

[oldwolf]

(oldwolf)

So you really want to know ?

Bought a bunch of rotting straw mulch bales for cheap - to use as walls - I'll have construction plastic facing toward living and work areas to keep out the smell. Figure I can always till them into the soil when I no longer need the warmth and shelter.
Bought a boiler furnace that burns Big wood and a couple of radiators with fans. Will probably have to salvage some DC fans from the cars for blowers as the fans on them now have pretty hefty AC motors. Figure to form a square of the trailers and have an open courtyard for the furnace so that it can heat all of the living spaces with the wood heat and the shop with the boiler/radiator heat (you know lots of gas fumes and cleansors and general atmosphere not appropriate for live fire).
Buying a pole setting/drilling truck - clamp for pole goes up 60' - use that to top the trees around the old homestead site - that's supposed to make it's appearence at the end of this month. The equipment trailer is supposed to be done - not what I wanted - ball hitch and smaller than desired And a title problem but - somehow I'll get it on the road and haul in the equipment that has not yet been delivered but is payed for (grr.)as well as go to my friends junk yard where he's been storing a bunch more vehicles and equipment and sundries for me and try to get most of them before winter stops the hauling.
Expect to have everything consolidated down to the building site, a temporary shop up, a large many people friendly Heated living space, the pump in and hot water (boiler has separate domestic hot water ability as well as over 100 gal capacity for an antifreeze boiler system for the radiators (already filled - whew - the cost there), the roads in fairly good condition, and the equipment to keep them open usable - - - all ready to be used through the winter months to get the equipment ready And to Stay up there. Still have the village house as fall back if needed - but no I don't intend to fall back - I'll handle whatever comes.

Still have the planned solstices/equinoxes meeting to celebrate the return of light as the longest night draws us from the encroaching dark and it's attending soul searching. But doubt highly if any more than the 3 committed so far will be attending.
Not really searching to draw people in unless the land and those already involved speak loudly to them - and they to us. Starting community has to be real close knit.

What else - hey happy thanksgiving.
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May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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(oldwolf)

God, you know I hate eating crow - aside from my preference toward vegetarianism - it never tastes too good.
Haven't done near as much as planned - and o the excuses are many - but I come back to what one person I contracted with always asked - "never mind the excuses - did you get it done ?" sheeit.
Blew up my road worthy truck and so was stopped getting the last 100 bales of straw (of 500). Could not get them down to where I wanted to build because nothing but the 4 wheel drive tractor with ice chains on will make it down there now - and the mud runs deep even when and because the snow acts as a fair insulation. - Now I know that the ground will eventually freeze and I am getting ice chains for all the vehicles but damn I hoped to be able to come back on here with more done.

Thankfully got a fair amount of insight when I got told this solstice that I needed to concentrate on making the space where I live, be a space I wanted to be in and would enjoy. Spoke to me - I never wanted to be down in the bottom of the hollow per se, but up on the hilltop. Can get away from most of the mud that way, and have the least amount of hassle for getting out with the cellular phone and keeping connected to the internet via cell and computer (down at the bottom reception fades). It's where I wanted to build my own little hermitage - so why not - right now it's just me up on the land any way. Makes sense. Will even try to have a place that I can pull a vehicle in if needed to be out of the weather should emergency service be needed.

Someone who visited at one of the open houses thought that I was trying to get them to invest in the hollow. Let me make clear - Only those to whom the land, the concept, and the people speak to; And whose energy speaks to the people on the land: are even encouraged to consider looking more closely at aligning themselves with us.

At present we are still only 3 individuals, with much of the materials, tools, equipment and land available - and Much work to be done (please note the emphasis on much). The same voice who suggested I improve my perception and condition of living arrangement said that the first move after that were cleaning up the cars (already well started on and should be consolidated together in 1 spot near the proposed shop/community building after the ground becomes tractable and able to be moved on [frozen]), and then cleaning out the trailers and taking all which was no longer viable to the junk yard - course now she wanted to en masse move most of the stuff there and I objected saying that most of what was stored therein was valuable for community if it hadn't wasted into rot (been many years in planning stages and the wet and non attention quickly brings things back to the earth and fairly non-useful for anything but landfill - but damn some was not rotted and electrical boxes, circuit breakers, and tools should still be usable)

Any way - always believed that handsome is as handsome does, and that by their actions shall you know them... - so must acknowledge that not much but hot air is being accomplished in spite of some fairly heroic efforts. just spinning my wheels in the mud...
But hey keep tuned, some time this luck has gotta change and things will suddenly start coming together and happening and the dust when it settles will see what it will see
- And what can I say - I still believe.
__________________
Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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(Painted Flame)

there are many people out there who this type of thing would be an a true blessing, if they could just open up to the idea of a community centered lifestyle. I could say I being one of these people but i am still impossibly trying to do this "americna dream" thing of having my own land and house, but the question keeps popping up in my head...is it worth the fifty plus years it will take to get on top of the finances and really own the stuff? And then i realize that i'm never going to be able to afford that and will probibly be living in a damn tent in some lady's backyard (like i've been doing for the past year), even though it's a big tent complete with a bed-it's still a tent. Doesn't provide the creture comofort of a warm fire and a wood floor, and a hard leaktight ceiling.
This life thing is hard! sometimes seemingly impossible, because i am doing it all on my own. No help from parents or anyone else, some say valient, some say stupid. I just say realitiy.
Anyway keep it up Oldwolf, I really respect what you're doing and IT IS WORTH IT.
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(oldwolf)

Thank you old paint
- for every thing there is a season should one be constant and persistent. How much and for how long we may enjoy them is another matter for the one constant throughout all is change.
So all we really got at the end of the road is still what should have been our guiding light at it's inception - "To thine own Self be true"

Merry Meet, Blessed Be,
and Wholeness unto thee

Have a happy
__________________
Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

[oldwolf]

(paintedflame)

yes indeed Oldwolf thank you. even though the cold wind is blowing outside, it is springtime eternally in my heart. oh wait maybe that's just heartburn, but i have been doing a little bit of soul searching latley and have found a part of me that i really like, and in fact it is no part of me at all, it only seems like that because i am shrouded in maya. It is in me It is one with me and It is me-the holy trinity.
Your words are so very true, for all things there is a season and seasons never last (well until this global warming epidemic, or could that be the earth's tilt?)
We despair when we try to grasp winter in summer time, but it fills us with hope to transcend to springtime in winter, and the promiss the summer will bring. In doing all of this we lose sight of what is important and that tomarrow may never come for us, at least not right now
so i see now that the important thing for me is to "just be".
funny how cliche's are always so true.



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(oldwolf)

You still feel footlose and fancy free come summer solstice and you feel drawn up this way at all, come on up for a visit. Can't promise that the land or us crazies will talk to you and tell you that this is where you'd like to light for a spell or 2 or longer but ...should the inclination and oppotunity present itself at least we could sit face to face across the fire and see a friend.
Or whenever you feel ready, drop us a line and we'll forward you the particulars (directions, location, and phone numbers).... or not . Whatever you do may you find happiness and may your heart sing.
__________________
Life is an opportunity and becomes what you make of it

May the Light of Love ever Guide your Way
Grow on ... Enjoy !

Peace Blessings
Love

oldwolf
Waysharer@yahoo.com
nomadhermit@hotmail.com

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(paintedflame)

soul shine

alright
right now i feel like:
:a poem:
there's no telling where if anywhere this body's a goin, but Finger Lake cleansing would be a nice stopover until visiting my family in Vermont perhpas to see the Solstice set in my uncle's rock sculpture garden overlooking Camel's Hump of Stowe.
:end poem:

i can't live in a city confined of basic human rights of clean air and long grass swaying in the wind like water. i've been so cooped up all i want is just nothing at all. that's just the thing. if you live in society you continuously need more and more because that's what the hook is. the bait is your desire and the sinker is your delusion. so what you get is a billion red eyes and blue noses all junked up on anti depressent pills and hormones in the meat, hormones on the plate- - and they're all twinging and cold blooded like Reptilians...and I can't say anything here Hunter S. Thompson hasn't already said...
and so who is fishing? they wear shiny shoes.
Yeah and now here's where Tom Wolfe jumps in-

Yep the more I don't have the better equipped I'll be to focus on what's important in life. And i'm strictly speaking about the never ending cat, mouse, middle-man, and tax man game of capitalism.


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(oldwolf) - and you are in the present now of this dated reply

ah caught up with the old - now for some new

Moving cloud has been over a good bit - too much for the INS (immigration) - she cannot come back for 6 months now ... shit - A lot has been getting done.
Still not building but most is now cleaned out and organized and expect to have a tempoary shop up as well as 2 temporary dwellings (defined by having the ability to heat with wood) - as well as several other available living spaces, and all the moving around and sorting done - ready to move onto building come this Solstice - celebrating it June 19 & 20
If you can make it we are expecting around 10 > 20 to be there - would love to have you come too And don't forget your instuments - it's nice to be gathered round a fire making music together with those you love
See you

[oldwolf]

posting in here to update a bit on what has happened so far... Lots of work little time for else and slowly accomplishing though sometimes it don't look like much.
Ah I love short words saying much... will also post on <Open House> to put in the dates of the solstice gathering - you all have fun

[strawpuppy]

do not notice you here very often anymore...

miss your rambling wisdom and the pictures your words created in my head...

hope your still around...

this forum was a better place for having you in it...

miss you

strawpuppy

[oldwolf]

Lion heart wrote:
What's Happening
Hi Old Wolf,
Just checking in--has Frances hit you yet?
Any folks responding on your Solstice Invitation?
Write Soon
LionHeart
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Rain cascades from the skies
Filling seasonal streams to overflowing
Roads are washed out
But finally comes the word
the flood watch is now ended

Fields lay ruined just before harvest
Gardens now could be declared wetlands
And would you believe
This all took place in less than 36 hrs.

The land previous near saturation from the many rains
Could not absorb the continuous flow
So down to the rivers went the new fallen leaves
Mixed with top soil and trees


But - we be fine
And washed away the cares of old
New cares and jobs of flood control
Digging little hills on the sides of flows

Surprising just how little it takes to direct the flow
Lest more come in its wake to tear down anew
Water works that Way - show your weaknesses and strengths

Giving thanks for all, dancing and twirling amist the flow
Mother nature cuddles and turns within her embrace
New tasks belay the cares of old

And the Path thought clear becomes more misty
As the fog arises from the ground
And landscapes change, new Ways are found

Blessing detachment anew each day
Looking with wonder on how directions come our Way
Open hands both to hold and let go

merrily, merrily, merrily .....


And no, we've heard from few, to none confirming visiting during this equinox open house.
We plug on, sometime the Doing seems like little , but as well comes the times when the little steps make for big changes when put together.

At present work goes indoors for a bit - to move on the land leaves too big a print - far beyond what was meant. Tearing down and rebuilding preparing for colder weather approaching - preparing the way for others coming home. Winter lodging, woods gathered, equipment readied - Much to Do - clear the fields preparing for winters rest and springs rejuvenation.

And you ask what's happening
and all I can reply is -
What's not ?

[Lionheart2000]

Hey I found the response--Updates-duhh--okay--making sense of the Waysharer forum..a beautiful poem man--
In Maine I was always careful not to walk, shovel, scrape-otherwise disturb the new seedlings-hibernating beneath the ice...wow-sometimes its difficult to be vigilant...but always worth it!

I just heard from a friend Vaughn in Daytona Bch.,Florida-Today"

Hi Lionheart,
We all went to Valdusta, GA Thursday night. On Fri - Sun we stayed in Macon GA. We came back Monday night at 8 p.m. to a dark house with warm food in the refridgerator. Power was finally restored on Wednesday at 5 p.m. The house came out of it all without a scratch. Most of the fence is down along with many trees. Daytona as well as anywhere else I've seen looks like a disaster area. Now we're experiencing flooding. Ivan is on it's way and this time we'll stay and battle the storm. Most of my time right now is spent tarping clients roofs and doing emergency repairs. It's still very hot and humid here and finding myself on a roof in the Summer in Florida just wasn't one of my plans. I'll write more when I get the time.
Later brother,
Vaughn

So plans do go awry--Gaia is indeed a powerful force--MammaMoon and I discussed these Gaian dances this morning--we finally decided she -the Mother, truly respondes to the evil-violence-and un-natural noises-on the planet--especially nuclear testing...(we're still feeling/reeling from Chernobyl-hostage taking-terrorism--WW1-WW2-Vietnam-Idi Amin-etc--John Lennnon) hummmmmm--!
Peace
LionHeart
:rolleyes:

[oldwolf]

And as we come to another time of sharing with the world - with friends and just curious alike - time for our quarterly report - and invite all and open our doors for any who wish to See.

Again we see so clearly the apathy of the world and how each gets lost within their own doing and does not hear the call for circling round the fire and passing the pipe and stick to share with one to another just What is happening.
Having the dream and putting our future at "risk" by putting everything we have and can borrow to make this dream - A place where people can come to Grow and Be more Whole - manifest - or not - but not dying on the vine through lack of trying.
And this being in the area where the best times to visit are the summer solstice and fall equinox times set aside for sharing. Winter and spring are open still to all but it takes a hardy soul to camp out in the snow and cold in winter (though snow often is not yet permanently on the ground at the start of that season), and the wet mud and freezing nights of spring when often the snow and winter recognize not the season's change.
So even as now we have only 1 who has said they may yet make it this next weekend (9/25&26), with hope still ever springing anew that in the doing and when it's built they will come - how about making plans for next summer solstice ?
May we See you then or will you still be too busy circling round and round on that wheel, making excuses, when a chance to get off Is being offered - can you not See.... But as always - to thine own Self Be True

[sylvanlightning]

Blessed Be & Bright Blessings!

Thank you for your beautiful sharings.
A heartfelt stream of blissful laughter and love, I send to you.

Namaste ~*

[oldwolf]

Thank you Sylvanlightning - I have enjoyed your offerings as well

May your life be full and Wholeness be yours

[oldwolf]

Ahh hell why not ressurect an old thread rather than start a new one....


Come around to that time again when the weather encourages the idea of visiting to see what this communitty attempt is about or just to put faces to a couple of the old coots that have been flappings their jaws around these hipforums parts for a good many years. .... Who Are these peole - What are they about
Well the big tent is open come look and see; but warning - no cages here - pretty rough and wear - as little a footprint as we might feel is needed or is left over from previous inhabitants.
Starts happening on fri. nite June 17 >>> the fool moon on the 22nd>>> maybe a whole week in the sun away from the roar of the crowd.
Don't be shy - we don't bite (often anyway - LOL). Just click on the link to the e mail adresses below and send us a short note to let us have an idea of how many are coming & for the directions and phone #s (which are private till the community has jumped through the legal hoops)
And if you cannot join us in the physical be it known that the circle is open and the spirit welcome.

Blessings be with you all on your journeys through life.

[oldwolf]

Ahh what a unique place to put this >>>...


reply from oldwolf with all of us sending our love.
2 adults with 2 attending children came to visit during the solstice, both adults were from the forums.

Continued working on making it be and fly higher, being the wind beneath the Wings - so to speak.

gees I'm short winded some times - we're really going to have to meet sometime and share salt - circle round the campfire and share energy - to really get the full flavor of each other. Sooner or later.....

Wishing you all the best

Blessings along your Way

[Lionheart2000]

Old Wolf --thank you so very much for the invite again this year..
Peace & Love
Lion & Mamma
Under Arizona Skies

"GIVING"
BY KAHLIL GIBRAN


Then said a rich man, "Speak to us of Giving."

And he answered:

You give but little when you give of your possessions.

It is when you give of yourself that you truly give.

For what are your possessions but things you keep and guard for fear you may need them tomorrow?

And tomorrow, what shall tomorrow bring to the overprudent dog burying bones in the trackless sand as he follows the pilgrims to the holy city?

And what is fear of need but need itself?

Is not dread of thirst when your well is full, thirst that is unquenchable?

There are those who give little of the much which they have - and they give it for recognition and their hidden desire makes their gifts unwholesome.

And there are those who have little and give it all.

These are the believers in life and the bounty of life, and their coffer is never empty.

There are those who give with joy, and that joy is their reward.

And there are those who give with pain, and that pain is their baptism.

And there are those who give and know not pain in giving, nor do they seek joy, nor give with mindfulness of virtue;

They give as in yonder valley the myrtle breathes its fragrance into space.

Though the hands of such as these God speaks, and from behind their eyes He smiles upon the earth.

It is well to give when asked, but it is better to give unasked, through understanding;

And to the open-handed the search for one who shall receive is joy greater than giving

And is there aught you would withhold?

All you have shall some day be given;

Therefore give now, that the season of giving may be yours and not your inheritors'.

You often say, "I would give, but only to the deserving."

The trees in your orchard say not so, nor the flocks in your pasture.

They give that they may live, for to withhold is to perish.

Surely he who is worthy to receive his days and his nights is worthy of all else from you.

And he who has deserved to drink from the ocean of life deserves to fill his cup from your little stream.

And what desert greater shall there be than that which lies in the courage and the confidence, nay the charity, of receiving?

And who are you that men should rend their bosom and unveil their pride, that you may see their worth naked and their pride unabashed?

See first that you yourself deserve to be a giver, and an instrument of giving.

For in truth it is life that gives unto life - while you, who deem yourself a giver, are but a witness.

And you receivers - and you are all receivers - assume no weight of gratitude, lest you lay a yoke upon yourself and upon him who gives.

Rather rise together with the giver on his gifts as on wings;

For to be overmindful of your debt, is to doubt his generosity who has the free-hearted earth for mother, and God for father.

PAINTING BY KAHLIL GIBRAN--COPYRIGHT-ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

[oldwolf]

Next gathering seems to fall on 17 & 18 of September.

Letting you all know so that you can plan ahead of time - hope you can make it .Bugs should be down as well as temperatures. Should be a pleasant time - a week or 2 later is peak leaf color in our area - course you know you are welcome to stay on - we play it by ear and try to stay open to whatever Is - then.
Feel a possible coming together and who knopws maybe some really wonderful long term close friendships and perhaps even the hollow calling you home to stay and grow on there.
Whatever may be, we will be there for it - right ?

So put the time aside on you calendar and plan on dropping out to drop in.

Loving you all

[Lionheart2000]

Allright Oldwolf!
Peace
LionHeart

[mariecstasy]

lionheart i just checked out your website...what great fun....that was a freakin trip dude.

and as far as i can tell...that weekend would be lovely...it works with my three month marker, and its the weekend before my birthday:) so yay and cheers...far as i can see, me and the wee one will be there...and we will bring out blankets:)

[Lionheart2000]

Thanks for visiting Marie..hope you make it to OldWolf's..
Peace
LionHeart

[sylvanlightning]

Bright Blessings to you Lionheart, and cheers to the gift of life!
We will see each other soon: prophets, dreamers, poets, lovers and tillers of the earth.

[oldwolf]

Hey lionheart
how about time for both of you to make a trip back east - you can remember why you love Az. so much and mamamoon will be that much closer to family - only another 10 hrs away.
Hoping you both can crank her up and stop by during the equinox full moon
you will be missed iffn you can't make it in the physical, but I'm sure we'll feel your spirit as you have not missed the gatherings so far - we have loved feeling you drop by.

Much Love to both of you

[Lionheart2000]

Ho Oldwolf,
Our last cross country trip was 3 years ago from the Coast of Maine to Bisbee, Arizona..and around and up and through and above and below until we found this little spot next to a creek.
Would love to visit just because I am so darn curious about you, your digs and we have become "kyndred souls'..plus I want to see if the lakes really look like fingers.
So we will keep you aprised of our journey's and in the meantime how's bout a trip out here and we can go to the Grand Canyon and play.
Love Ya Man
LionHeart

[oldwolf]

Yah lionheart - nothing I would like better.... well finishing up here to go on to the next has the greatest priority - and I extended the finacial so as to keep me to the grindstone (3 1/2 > 5 hrs. /nite 365/yr.) - so until Change the great equalizer comes through to make the situation different - I am locked in place here for a bit.
So not getting me to come to the mountains - can you bring them to me - or at least a breath of it tagging along when you visit.
Life is great, but it's nice to share round the fire of kindred spirits too - in the physical as well as in the Spirit.
Sending Love to you both

[Lionheart2000]

Hi OldWolf,
Wow if I were in my 20's or 30's we wouldn't be having this conversation on the cyberspacial distance provider...we would have been there many times by now...no lie!
For now, we must suffice to contemplate a fireplace gathering and a zither.
Keep writing your thoughts-sharing your heart is more important than the grindstone..at the end of the day...daze.

MammaMoon and I were discussing, quite selfishly, this morning, how nice it would be to live in an area where everybody thought the same about spiritual enlightenment, self sufficiency, cooperative living, parenting, eco consciousness, sexuality--you know (A Tribal Consciousness)...Instead of communities that don't think AT ALL the way we do..which is most of this country...brain's battered and numbed by violence, aberrent and gratuitous sex, the continual dumbing down process, commercials on tv, radio, newspapers and dotted along all the roadsides of the US proclaiming Capitalism and someone else's dream ($) and manipulations, and the escalation of exploiting everything on this planet that we hold sacred.

Yes, the warmth of the fireplace under the protection of the sky and treetops..listening to the zither and violin...away from Babylon...to seize the moment each moment, hour, day, week, month, year--lifetime.

So have a great week and remember grindstones always grind to a halt.

Peace & Love
Lion & Mamma

[oldwolf]

And I for my part seriously doubt that if I were much younger would have the ability to stay focused and centered to keep this attempt going antwhere near as long as I have. For all that we are Works with all that Is to bring about what will be. I am always so amazed at how synchronicity combines and recombines what Is to continuously give us new opportunities to find our Way.

But I feel both of you at times so poignantly that I Know that somehow sometime ...... and yes Spirit rides on ever and does not really need the physical to Be - but here , having the physical as well - it becomes somewhat natural to want to be able to touch those we Love and give them a hug - Look across the fire and share that loving energy glowing from eye to eye.

Loving you

[sylvanlightning]

We decide to do,
then it manifests.

Seeing you.

[oldwolf]

Yah See you soon - ...
you are the first to confirm that they are planning on making it, hopefully we can all join and see the group spirit at work within us all. What will be, will be

Marie said that the time framework is plausable for her but .... time will tell
Nirgal said maybe
Kim - well she has a problem committing Jk kim - I don't take myself seriously (course my Self I do) - why should you ?
Scholar - well I will get out a personal invite to him, but the distance and fiscal responsibilities sometime seem too great to move that particular mountain - I know that feeling all too well, having a sense myself of being shackled in place by fiscal restraints.
Ron - asked over the years since he's been here, busy but busy busy
Lionheart and Mamamoon - someday my friends we must make the time - may it be soon.
Brian and Scarlett - enjoying life and have yet sooo much time - living it to the hilt - again - sometime my friends - Aye ?

And those i have not named; either have not let me know they feel drawn together - or it appears that their own circles keep them busy and not yet able to break free to visit.

<<<(edit) and yes Mary - I did not forget you - but feel that the distance and whatever still say it may not yet be right for you - please know that you are welcome>>>

And sooner or later - I too shall break free and spread my wings and take back the nomad part of the hermit and be assured that should I know the door be open, I will then visit - to renew over the circle sitting eye to eye.

And please any that at all feel drawn - even if only from curiosity - know that our door is open and the hollow welcomes.

Blessings

[sylvanlightning]

Just this moment.
Let go and allow the embrace.

*goes to add kindling to the fire*

Oh, my I love the stars. Each of you.

[mariecstasy]

still working on it....came to find out today that Sept is the end of the fiscal year and being as how almost our entire customer base is federal govt...they dont allow you to be off in september....however, i am not on a federal team so it might have no bearing on me....i might need to come in october instead, if the door would be open for me to at that time.

[oldwolf]

Marie - you are welcome any time.
The reason we choose an open house is to Plan on taking a time apart to share and communicate. That does not mean that people cannot come at other times - but we also have much ongoing and sometimes we need to make plans ahead and sometimes a date good for one may not be good for another. So we go back and forth till we find a time where synchronicity steps in and says this is a good time for you all to come together - does bot mean it will be at the times we "planned".
Hoped you could come when all were here - but who knows who that all will be any way. Often it's only been the 3 of us and flexability is important. we all Grow when it's time and we all meet to Connect when it's time and no matter how we might push for it to be before it's time - well - the plans of mice and men gods and gods in the makeing are often foiled - when the 3 sisters of fate are not in agreement - oops sorry - we'll get together when the time is right for each and every one of us and until then we'll just keep the heart spaces open and a place warmed for you as we gather in spirit - even if the physical is not able to co-operate ain the moment.
See you when we do - our hearts are open to you

[mariecstasy]

i got off...i have the 16th and the 19th off!!!! and the 17th and 18th are a weekend.....
so yay!

and talked to John...he is supposed to have Arianna that weekend but he will let me bring her...its easier than having to find someone for her on the 16 and 19th..

[oldwolf]

Alll riight
Sounded like Andrew is bringing Sylvi - but O no Kim said she wanted some time without hers - talk to her marie - you have a such a wonderful time getting your way- The more the merrier. Maybe even Rich would like a little time off. We have plenty of tents.

Looking forward to seeing you all

[mariecstasy]

lol....does that mean i have a good time getting my way or i am good at getting what i want....
hahaha....

my tent and camping supplies live in my car...so i am set...always should be prepared, ya know...just in case you feel it necessary to sleep outside.
sylvan is in the process of finding out from the mama if its ok to have her for the weekend....i am sure if kim knows his daughter and mine will be there that she won't be so reluctant....and if she wants kim time, i will watch the kids:)
but i will work on it...

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Looks like this is coming together nicely...I am going away for the work weekend at the monastary labor day weekend so I'll be nice and recharged after that:) I'll ask Rich, but he would be bored to death...unless we bait him with your heavy equipment Jon ;) Rich loves to relate to the machines...they make sense to him.

We'll see we'll see....sprinkle lots of love and magic and mebbe we can all get up there this time. He's really regretting not going to niagra so mebbe.

Perhaps buk will be able to go to now that her husband saw we did'nt get chopped up into a thousand pieces last time...

The kids are going to have so much fun with each other! Mine love camping out!!

[mariecstasy]

arianna loves it too!!!

[oldwolf]

Well, I got way too much equipment and not enough operators - and some need to be put back together, some fixed - I'll try to get the generators set up this time - we can turn on the lights and fire up the compressors and set out the air tools and what the moon does not light up we'll light up and have an all night work scene - us workaholics know how to vacation by damn.
Just kidding I work my routes at every night from up at 1 AM back in around 6>7 Am so it's a no can do for me on those crazy all nighters.
As I like to say - these seasonal gatherings are about communication - but I always play it by ear. Sometimes people just need their space - and I got more than enough work to do left over for the next couple of years so I never take offense if my own best choice is to work. With the kids though ... I've missed them -... maybe now that my own have been gone for a while - hmmm...I enjoyed visiting with the fresh energy your kids brought Kim - only wish I had spent more time with them...
See you all when - and those that are thinking about coming - please do - or not - we'll have the circle open for you and the landing lights on for this full moon gathering for all the friendly spirits who often join us.

Loving you all

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Gaaaahhh!!!NOoonononono! I come up there to get away from all the vibrations oldwolf. Rich is a mechanical magician though, he's got a way with machines. He can drive anything too, lol. I think you two would actualy hit it off pretty famously.


All in time.:)

As for us...heee I found a cool shadow puppet link, I am gonna print them out for the girls , they can have a shadow puppet party in their tent. (and they'll be so busy we will be able to get a word in energy wise;) )

[Lionheart2000]

Come on HoneySuckleBlue,
Don't these look like fun to drive?
I'm with you--LOL!
Peace
LionHeart
(no offence Oldwolf...I'll still paint them for ya--in DAY GLO)

[HoneySuckleBlue]

You know they do look like a load of fun, I even signed up to go to school to learn how to drive heavy equipment and repair it up in Alaska:) ...and painting them sounds like and even more fun! I just like them better when they sit quietly;) I used to love climbing on them when I was little.

It'd be fun if you could lead us in a hike john, I know my kids like exploring through the forest. We could break in some paths with you, walking is always a good time for thinking and talking...:)

[Lionheart2000]

HoneySuckle,
I am not John--I'm LionHeart- :rolleyes:
If I could be there I would love to take your kids on a walk.
Okay--instead of machinery--how bout we ride on this?
I know Oldwolf's gonna get ornery with me.LOL :eek:
Peace
LionHeart

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Yes till we can walk together, a trip on that beautiful winged thing would be wonderful Lion heart, sorry for not being clear but in the second paragraph I used oldwolfs given name out of familiarity...was proposing a way we could all get communicating in while wearing out the kids so they sleep fitfully :)


I know oldwolf is gonna get onery with meIt's okay oldwolfs bark is worse than his bite:p

[sylvanlightning]

Oh, sylvi loves the woods too.
Are there alot of good trails?
What do the lakes look like?
Have you had a cup of coffee...
*goes to make some.*

[HoneySuckleBlue]

The girls and I explored the streams trail for quite a ways...though there was talk of a waterfall we never made it that far.

[sylvanlightning]

Oh, yes, I love waterfalls. Did they have a good time exploring the trails? Did you have a fire at night? I'm excited.

[HoneySuckleBlue]

My kids had a great time running amuk in the field and playing down by the creek where it was nice and cool and we did build a fire one night though it's hard to hold a conversation over deleriously giggling little girls. lol, by the time they settled in all of our words had slipped away so we simply enjoyed each others presence and took in the beautiful array of night sky.

[sylvanlightning]

Sounds magical.

[mariecstasy]

well as we are each whatever magic we feel, then its up to us, huh?

[sylvanlightning]

Yes, we create magic together.
Sharing our gifts on these ways.

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Can we camp by the pond this time oldwolf, that is such a neat spot.

[mariecstasy]

now, is definately the time for a gathering...yay for the power that we will have in numbers....yay for our lights:)
tis a time for a charge, recharge, turn on...whatever we all need...

i was absolutley able to get the days off....so its a go for arianna and i!!!!!hip hip hooray!!!

[sylvanlightning]

Can we camp by the pond this time oldwolf, that is such a neat spot.

sounds good to me, i love water. yes quite a magical vibe in the air.

[oldwolf]

Glad you can make it Marie.


Most of the hollow is the home of the those that live there.
The pond is a public place where all come and go
The presence of humans living there, will interfere with most using the pond - and the smell of their presence will stay long after they are gone, still causing too much anxiety for visiting .
I've always seen the pond as somewhere to visit, maybe have a sweat built nearby, but not someplace to build a home because of how it interferes with the wild life.

That's my thinking - so if you feel that this is still the 'correct" place for you to camp, maybe camping far enough away from the pond that you will not interfere with the nature of the place, might be appropriate.
Know it's poorly said - and no offense is intended or desire to inhibit - just my own thoughts on the matter - was going to wait till people were here to get a full sense of what the consensus and concerns of all were.
There's a whole hollow out there and many beautiful locations and a variety of energy spots of differing natures - each having their own mistique.
Being True to Self , and ye harm none - do what ye will

Blessings

[sylvanlightning]

That you for sharing your thoughts and feelings.
I'm looking forward to exploring the energy of the land.

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Thanks for voicing your concerns OW, they do make sense, the pond seemed so ideal because of the dreams I have been having and with all the work you've been doing with the heavy equipment cleaning out the pond i really did'nt think us camping would disturb the critters much.

I was asking ahead of time because I am wondering what to pack, but after this week I am considering just donating my gas money for the hurricane relief effort. People don't have necessities and i can camp out in my own woods you know?

[mariecstasy]

whatever you feel is best kim:)

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Thanks for your support Marie:) I am sure either way the Gathering will be just what the doctor ordered.

[sylvanlightning]

Well I'll see you there by sun and moonlight.
Bright Blessings & *cheers* to being present in the now with friends.
Lakes and camp fires and birds and playing and exploring the land;
sitting in silence and meditating by cricket-song, swaying with the breezes by moonlight, or whatever the imagination of the environment co-creates :)

[sylvanlightning]

Well I'll see you there by sun and moonlight.
Bright Blessings & *cheers* to being present in the now with friends.
Lakes and camp fires and birds and playing and exploring the land;
sitting in silence and meditating by cricket-song, swaying with the breezes by moonlight, or whatever the imagination of the environment co-creates :)


Well after plotting the course, via AAA maps, calculating the travel time of 30+ hours and the gas expense of ???? I have decided that I will attend in spirit and look forward to meeting in person at another gathering. I would much rather fly and rent a car, especially if travelling w/ my daughter. Sorry about the short notice, if you have already done anything to make our stay more comfortable, perhaps unexpected guests will receive the kindness intended for us. I love everyone in the hollow and extend bright blessings and love for the gathering, but have decided to stick with a 15 hr round trip to MD this time.

Blessed Be

[Lionheart2000]

Hi Folks,
The energy is intense--we need to stay close to one another in these times--Cyber or real time.
We honor our intuition--we honour our "first hits"..I'm sure the Love is there--and Love will survive these times--it always has!
MammaMoon and I would love to join you Oldwolf...but alas alack our "mission is in the desert"--"our caravan stopped here and we have pitched the tents--and keep watering the camels and watch the night time sky."

Love to all of you--please..stay close.
Find Peace
LIonHeart
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/6978girl_car.jpg

[mariecstasy]

true indeed Lionheart...there are so many forces pulling against us....and trying to pull us out....its time for group hugs....

[sylvanlightning]

Here is a big hug for my loved ones in the Hollow.

(((((oldwolf oldcrone movingcloud kittyfabulous)))))

[nirgal]

... as it looks in this now, I should be up on the Equinox
that's the intention anyway...
see y'all soon!

[oldwolf]

Looking forward to it

See you soon

[kitty fabulous]

it's just possible our friend 7river might make it to the hollow after all. either way, he's asked me to give everyone there a "real" hug.

[HoneySuckleBlue]

I hope everyone has a fufilling gathering, and those traveling have safe trips! ((hugs)) all around :)


It looks like I'll be staying here and seeing if i can't round up my eleusive friends carrie and bryan, the rest of our group here have begun clamoring for a bonfire, so it looks like this weekend officialy kicks off bonfire season!

See you all on the wind!!

[mariecstasy]

awwwwww....we are going to be enjoying a bonfire as well...we are gonna take the kids to an amusement park down here that has Thomas the ChooChoo.....and then o camping....
(((((((to all of you)))))))
i love each and every single last one of you in ways you have no idea:)

[kitty fabulous]

oh, no! rain! make it stop! :(

[HoneySuckleBlue]

...so that's where it went. They have been forecasting rain here since wednesday and so far it'sa no show.


Hope you guys find something fun to do despite the wetness.

[sylvanlightning]

oh, no! rain! make it stop! :(

We had a bit of rain here too. Arianna was really tired after the caverns and the waterfall. We ended up opting for a motel.

My heart and thoughts are with you... seems to be clearing.
Hope all is well with presents of presence abounding :)
This is what a google search said:



Local Information
Sunrise: 6:58 AM EDT
Sunset: 7:21 PM EDT

Detailed Forecast for Niagara Falls, New York
Overnight
Partly Cloudy
Low 55°F
Partly cloudy with areas of fog forming. Lows in the mid 50s. Light west winds.

Sunday
Mostly Sunny
High 75°F

Areas of morning fog...Otherwise partly to mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. West winds under 10 mph.

Sunday Night
Clear
Low 55°F
Mainly clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Southwest winds under 10 mph.

Monday
Mostly Sunny
High 80°F

Mostly sunny and warm. Highs around 80. Southwest winds under 10 mph becoming southeast.

~~* Bright Blessings

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Sounds like you guys are keeping busy andy:)

...and looks like the weather is taking a turn for more outdoor related fun in your neck of the woods kitty. Being inside durring rainey times can lend to some great discussions, but it sure is nice to be able to go out and walk about!

We are getting ready to go to a pig roast on the beach but I just wanted to wish you all the best!

[HoneySuckleBlue]

lol...so much for the pig roast...rich and i got into a spat and i decided I was'nt going anywhere with someone who talked to me like that.

Hmmpf.

Holy crap what a weekend!

Thank god for the whirly giggy that greg made me and that great full moon!!

[kitty fabulous]

the moonlight was just crazy. it lit everything up so much it was almost like being in the city (only better, of course.) i could read my watch by it. the rain tapered off and we had a pretty good weekend. i know what i have to do now, and it's a little initimidating, but i guess i'll just have to deal. i can post pictures of the kids later.

[Lionheart2000]

Thats a great etching of the hippie chick in the stream- Honeysuckle..
Wow--yes..this moon has kept me up for four daze..I too can read from her light...in fact, her face last night reminded me that there is a Goddess protecting us...she had a huge aura of light around her.
I'm feeling sort of emotionally drained but high spirited--know what I mean?
Peace, Love and Moonbeams
LionHeart
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/511/6978Sunset-crested-saguaro-AR_w.jpg

[kitty fabulous]

shakti had greg completely wrapped around her little fingers. ha! he is helpless against the overwhelming power of brown-eyed three-year-old cuteness!

(but then, aren't we all?)

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Lionheart, thank you, she reminds me of our Aireal:)

heehee spiritualy high:) :) :D I like that feeling!


I can't wait to meet your kids lizzie, mebbe in the spring...did Greg get to put the swings up for aireal?

[kitty fabulous]

um, i don't know. don't think so. he was staying there an extra day, so he might have.

as soon as dad sends me the pics, i can post them. got a real cute one of shakti sitting in the little stick lean-to that damien built.

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Oh cool, I can't wait! you're kids are soulful, those are gonna be great pics I bet!

Sounds like your dad had a good time with them, did you guys get to talk alot?

[kitty fabulous]

i talked with my dad some. but mostly i just wanted to go camping with him. he showed damien how to lash branches together to make stuff, and damien just went to town. he's totally into building stuff, made a cute little lean-to with a log "chair" for shakti to sit on. that's a precious picture!

[HoneySuckleBlue]

Sometimes just being together is enough and those relationships where the communicating happens on the non verbal levels are usually the most profound...imho.

Did he say if he liked it?

[kitty fabulous]

he said it was some of the best time he's ever spent with his grandkids. :) and he totally loves aireal's quilt. it's spread out on his bed now.

[mariecstasy]

i love her quilt too..it wraps its arms around me and whispers sweet dreams to me nightly

[HoneySuckleBlue]

I am glad, it sounded like he had some good quality time with them.

Those quilts rock, I keep mine on my 'Invisable chair' so it's easy to grab when I decide I can't take the rack any more and go sleep in the tent or on the sofa. The fuzzy side is so yummeh. I like curling up in it when i am sick.:) :) *quilt glows* I slept with mine last night.

It amazes me cause I have tried hand sewing things before and i get about a foot into stitching and loose steam...