just to hear that guy... you'd wanna quit

[We_All_Shine_On]

Ok you know how schools try to scare you and give you "the truth" on drugs etc.. well who cares about that. that has nothing to do with this I just thought I'd add it.

ok I wanted to never touch a drug again because of one guy:
I was watching real tv and this guy was speeding. He gets a ticket but then the cop says can we search your car, voluntarily?
the man says yeah sure.They open his trunk and see a garbage bag. The guy isn't freaked or anything its all like relaxed, oh w/e its like car stuff. So the cop opens it and its a whole bunch of pot.
As he arrested the idiot guy, I almost died:
you should have heard this guy screaming. Holy fuck man, he was dying just dying, it's like when someone cuts a limb off, he was crying and screaming "No no god no please no NO NO NO NO NO NO PLEASE NO FUCK NO GOD HELP ME NO PLEASE NO MY LIFE IS OVER OMG!!
I was feeling SO bad for that idiot, because his life was seriously over he got a huge sentence cuz he had SOOOO much weed.

but what a FUCKING MORON for letting the cops search his car, how could he forget he had that much pot?!
so thats why I wanted to stop doing pot.

[Velouria]

Cops are evil and if they had probable cause they could have searched his car anyway.

[Peace]

all that suggest is that we should lower the mairjuana laws. Polititians and Pigs aka Cops often complain about overcrowded jails and prisons. And while they are saying this there are throwing a guy in jail because he had a ounce in his pocket.

[reef]

dude i wouldn't be surprized if that show cops made up that episode.

just to get people to be like ah they have to say yes to a search or what not

[bertrose]

never believe whats on tv!!!

[Koko4]

A whole lot of those "police reality" shows are fake.. but Cops is the only one that's supposed to be real.

[BraveSirRubin]

Cops are evil and if they had probable cause they could have searched his car anyway.
ha!

If cops are evil, then so is your garbage man, your mailman...and ofcourse... that evil one... the veggie seller!...

They are just doing their job... grow up.

[DarkLunacy]

Wow... Why would you quit over that? 2 ounces is feloney... And dont travel with it.

[FreshPhish]

ha!

If cops are evil, then so is your garbage man, your mailman...and ofcourse... that evil one... the veggie seller!...

They are just doing their job... grow up.
Your comparison is absurd and lacks merit. It was a generalization, yes, but your arguement is flawed. There are cops (and they are many) that are sadistic pricks who wake up every morning to power-trip at work. It's where people that want power over others go when they can't hack it in upper management positions.

[bertrose]

U can carry less than 100 grams in OHIO just ending up getting a slap on the wrist fine(No criminal charge). But of course if u driving with it in ur car, they first have to have reason to stop u in order to check ur car for anything illegal...so just drive safe and don't be dumb about it...they also need a warrant so unless they have one no one is getting into my car.

[EllisDTripp]

ha!

They are just doing their job... grow up. So were the guards in the Nazi death camps.....

Some "jobs" (like arresting and incarcerating people for possessing a PLANT) are immoral enough that NOBODY should be doing them.

Once we finally end the drug war, there should be war crimes trials for the bastards responsible for it. From Presidents on down to the local cops. "Just following orders" is no excuse for human rights violations, either in Iraq or here at home!

[Shamrock]

So were the guards in the Nazi death camps.....

Some "jobs" (like arresting and incarcerating people for possessing a PLANT) are immoral enough that NOBODY should be doing them.
Ya exactly. You can't just say "they're doing their jobs." That's bullshit. They go into that feild of work knowing that they will be arresting undeserving people such as somebody peacefully smoking a joint. Wheather they feel what they are doing is immoral or not, they go into what they do knowing full well that they're gona have to arrest over bullshit.

[Koko4]

I agree with Ellis and Shamrock.. if I was a cop, (which would be kinda fun because you get to drive fast as hell, and every day is different), I wouldn't care about pot. I'd just be like "don't let me see it, so I don't get in trouble." or "Just remember, it's only a cigarette ;)" .. I would arrest the real criminals though. :)

[bertrose]

Nice post Ellis and Shamrock...I got ur back completely!


peace

[We_All_Shine_On]

It's not because he got caught that I'm afraid to, it was just the desperation in his voice.. if you heard it... oh man... and it was Real tv, not cops or w/e

yeah (i think) it's been decriminalized in canada, or something, like, thats where we're trying to go, not quite legal, but pay a fine. I really can;t say though lol beucase it's all shady up here... which is good. right now, it pretty much depends on your luck witht the cops.
you could get acop that lets ya go, or one that busts ur ass cuz its "illegal"
most cops around here bust schools... like, only large groups.

[Koko4]

Damn I wish I lived in Canada. That way I could do my thing, cops could do theirs, and we would leave each other alone. Then I would have a lot more respect for the police force!

[We_All_Shine_On]

I totally respect cops. the ones around me HATE to arrest people...like if it's a small thing, like having a joint on them or w/e, they'll try to find a way to not have to arrest them. Its a mix of niceness and tiny bit of laziness...
but I've been at a party where 2 cops showed up, and the first cop saw the bong on the table (in plain view) and said to me "better hide that before she sees it" , She being the other cop. Cops are there for us... like seriously, most stoners disagree, but who saves your life, protects you from murderers,and can help you out with anonymity.
anyways yeah, so I still havent smoked up since april15 or 25 or w/e

[Peace]

Damn thats a long time without the herb. But lucky you, when you smoke again youll be blazing..... :):):)

[NeverMore889]

ya i saw that to

was it in tin foil with a sandwich above it? thats the one i saw

as for cops or those other shows being fake there real but slant the truth. on cops they will only show you the cases when the bad guy runs and the cop catches him. so many times people can get away from the cops but they will never show it since it makes the cops look bad! by only showing the people getting caught the cops looks so amazing so their trying to influence people not to run. think about it it would be so easy to lose someone whos chasing you in a neighbourhood you know well and they dont. hmm maybe not if ur smoking haha oh well

[TerminalMadness]

They let him go.

I love that clip; you can't do the time don't do the crime.

He's like "Oh god no! No! No! Oh god please, god!" over and over. LOL So frikkin funny.

[maryjaneguitargurl]

But if you told the cop no he would wonder if your hiding someting

[BraveSirRubin]

Your comparison is absurd and lacks merit. It was a generalization, yes, but your arguement is flawed. There are cops (and they are many) that are sadistic pricks who wake up every morning to power-trip at work. It's where people that want power over others go when they can't hack it in upper management positions.
Ofcourse... and there are also sadistic catholic priests.

Point being: Every profession can have sadists in it, it is just more publicly exposed in the Police. Which makes it all better, since they can be taken to court. You won't expect your mailman to rape you, but with a cop, you'll be attentive, careful, and will know your rights.


EllisDTripp[/b]]
So were the guards in the Nazi death camps.....

Some "jobs" (like arresting and incarcerating people for possessing a PLANT) are immoral enough that NOBODY should be doing them.
.

I agree, that they are "immoral" in a way, yet, they are "lawful". I support the legalization of all drugs strongly. But, you cannot criticize people that try to do thier job as much. The war on drugs should be stopped. Yet, while it's going on... there will be cops in your weed... deal with it.

[ncsu123]

i just had civics and econ and i kno that cops cant search the trunk unless they have a worent or u let them, if the worent is for the car they can only look in the cab

[dharmagrrl]

But if you told the cop no he would wonder if your hiding someting
If you tell the cop no, you are excercising your rights as an American citizen (can only speak for this country's laws) and even if he has a suspicion unless there is probable cause they can't do anything. and if they do they are violating search and seizure laws and that's grounds to have the whole thing thrown out of court. besides some lawyers will not take your case if you gave the cops permission to search your car, it's almost impossible to win.

[TerminalMadness]

So were the guards in the Nazi death camps.....

Some "jobs" (like arresting and incarcerating people for possessing a PLANT) are immoral enough that NOBODY should be doing them.

Once we finally end the drug war, there should be war crimes trials for the bastards responsible for it. From Presidents on down to the local cops. "Just following orders" is no excuse for human rights violations, either in Iraq or here at home!
Ha! You're comparing those cops to the nazis?

Let's see: two cops busting a yuppie for possession of drugs, ruthless Germans murdering babies and women. Hmm--I don't see the similarity.

plus the way you call it a PLANT. Dude, it's drugs. Just because it comes from nature doesn't make it safe. It's drugs, an unhealthy illegal substance.

BUT I do agree with your view on the drug war. Instead of busting drug dealers and buyers, bust the dealers and leave the users alone except control it and put some boundaries towards it.

If people want to put that crap in their body it's their business, but get the snakes who sell it.

[AncillaryDrone]

I think the MJ laws are bunk (and there's cops that do, too!) but as long as the laws are on the books a cop cant ignore a GARBAGE BAG full of weed. Having a "cops are evil" outlook really doesnt help, not all cops think pot smokers are "evil" and will not harass you more than they have to. Times and attitudes are changing, believe it or not.

[EllisDTripp]

Ha! You're comparing those cops to the nazis?

Yep. That's EXACTLY what I'm doing.

Let's see: two cops busting a yuppie for possession of drugs, ruthless Germans murdering babies and women. Hmm--I don't see the similarity.

Both drug-warrior cops and the nazi camp guards are mindless drones who try to excuse their actions by claiming they are "only following orders". Although the magnitude of their immoral actions may be different, the underlying philosophy of sheeplike obedience to authority is exactly the same. As to BSR's claim that what the cops do is "lawful, if immoral", again, what the nazis did was "lawful", seeing as the nazis were the ones writing the laws at that time and place! :) And before you claim that cops are helping protect and strengthen society, tha Nazis thought that they were, as well.

plus the way you call it a PLANT. Dude, it's drugs.

Dude, it IS a fucking PLANT. It happens to contain a chemical that can be USED as a drug. The plant also has about a million and one NON-DRUG uses, which are being kept from widespread adoption because of the WoD.

Just because it comes from nature doesn't make it safe.

Nothing (even pure oxygen) is 100% safe for all people at all times under all conditions of use. What's your point? Everybody is going to die from something. Life itself can be described as "a 100% fatal, sexually transmitted disease", afterall. :)

It's drugs, an unhealthy illegal substance.

As drugs go, marijuana has a remarkable record of safety. Nobody has ever died of a marijuana overdose in 12,000 years of recorded use. Recreational marijuana use has less of a deleterious effect on health than alcohol, junk foods, and many prescription medicines. Shall we make all of those illegal, as well?

[Budman420]

i herd that cops werent allowed to search your trunk or your glove compartment

[samr]

i herd that cops werent allowed to search your trunk or your glove compartmentI believe that is true but if you think about it stashing your stuff in you glove compartment is not a good idea. In the event of you getting pulled over where do you keep your insurance card and registration and all that? I keep it in the glove so I would definitely not hide anything there. By the way, just so you all know, if a cop wants to search your car he/she will. It is whether or not the charges will be dropped in court that is the issue.

[rory]

GOOD POST ELLIS D TRIP!

Just to back up the argument, there is no doubt that the nature of the police force encourages abuse of power and whilst there are of course examples of this in all walks of life, the police it would seem higher concentration of people of this mind-set within the police force.

I know a few people who's personality has changed since they joined the police.
Their whole outlook on life and attitudes towards things has changed, and to see the arrogance flow from them is shocking.

Whilst there is undoubtedly many officers who do a lot of good and join for all the right reasons, it is the many corrupt, oppressive, often racist officers that give the good ones a bad rep.

Why do we keep wasting resources on housing people in jails for petty drug charges? People dealing heroin and mugging old ladies whilst two officers are killing time busting a 15 year old for possession of an eighth, its fucking crazy!

The only area on which I am in agreement with 'terminal madness' is that the pushers should be stopped, and the only way we can tolerate use and eradicate dealers is to legalise weed and make it available from licensed retailers.

And by the way TM, since when has something being unhealthy mean that it should be made illegal? Its a modern, unfair law that has no grounding.

By you logic McDonalds & Haagen Daazs should be illegal, but its unenforceable. Obese people cost countries billions upon billions of pounds every year, but they would never restrict eating because it would be socially unacceptable. So we need to get to the stage where use of weed is SO widespread that legalising is will be the only sensible option!!

[EllisDTripp]

i herd that cops werent allowed to search your trunk or your glove compartment

IANAL, but my understanding is that they can search (without a warrant) any area of the vehicle that is visible "in plain sight" from outside the vehicle, and any area that the driver or passengers have immediate access to. This would include glove compartment, above visors, and underseat storage bins/etc.

Where they would need a warrant is for a search of a separate locked compartment (ie:the trunk)., or to start looking under the hood etc.

[Ocean Byrd]

A whole lot of those "police reality" shows are fake.. but Cops is the only one that's supposed to be real.

That's why I love Reno 911; can't get enough of that satire/comedy.

[purcolekraze]

Ok you know how schools try to scare you and give you "the truth" on drugs etc.. well who cares about that. that has nothing to do with this I just thought I'd add it.

ok I wanted to never touch a drug again because of one guy:
I was watching real tv and this guy was speeding. He gets a ticket but then the cop says can we search your car, voluntarily?
the man says yeah sure.They open his trunk and see a garbage bag. The guy isn't freaked or anything its all like relaxed, oh w/e its like car stuff. So the cop opens it and its a whole bunch of pot.
As he arrested the idiot guy, I almost died:
you should have heard this guy screaming. Holy fuck man, he was dying just dying, it's like when someone cuts a limb off, he was crying and screaming "No no god no please no NO NO NO NO NO NO PLEASE NO FUCK NO GOD HELP ME NO PLEASE NO MY LIFE IS OVER OMG!!
I was feeling SO bad for that idiot, because his life was seriously over he got a huge sentence cuz he had SOOOO much weed.

but what a FUCKING MORON for letting the cops search his car, how could he forget he had that much pot?!
so thats why I wanted to stop doing pot.
You wanted to stop pot because of that? LOL. That's guy was feeling a bit too lucky.