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the osiris cult has to be the greatest cult ever - it lasted for thousands of years in egypt- the kings of egypt were associated with osiris in death -as osiris rose from the dead they would in union with him, they would inherit eternal life -the myth of osiris is about the 2nd coming of christ - osiris gets reincarnated and loses his identity so set kills osiris with sin(set is lucifer)- after some time set awakens to his true idenity, quits sinning and becomes horus(horus is the 2nd coming of christ)- amun ra ptah is the oldest trinity of egypt and all other trinitys are related - amun is the hidden aspect of god=the father , ra is jesus christ ,ptah is horus who is the reincarnation of ra and creator of the universe-on back of the us dollar bill you have the eye in the pyramid - in ancient egypt the eye in the capstone of the pyramid was the eye of horus - right eye is ra and horus is the left eye -this myth of osiris is a curret event - back from the future - hetep
starchild618
03-02-2008, 02:42 PM
there are a lot of simalairities between the cult of of osiris and christianity. in fact, i think christianity adopted these elements from the cult of osiris, even though they won't dare to admit it. instead of that, christians explain the similairities as the work of satan (set-an...lol)
Osiris, Horus, Isis
Still Bacchus relates more to my internatl desire for drunkeness and partying
Okiefreak
03-02-2008, 08:35 PM
there are a lot of simalairities between the cult of of osiris and christianity. in fact, i think christianity adopted these elements from the cult of osiris, even though they won't dare to admit it. instead of that, christians explain the similairities as the work of satan (set-an...lol)There are also differences. Osiris never returned from the land of the dead. And etyomologically, the similarity between the names Set and Satan may be coincidental. Satan comes from the Hebrew Ha-Satan, or "The Adversary".
Okiefreak
03-02-2008, 08:54 PM
osiris gets reincarnated and loses his identity so set kills osiris with sin(set is lucifer)- after some time set awakens to his true idenity, quits sinning and becomes horusI think your mythology is a bit garbled. Set killed Osiris. Isis reanimated Osiris, became pregnat by him, and conceived Horus. Osiris went to the realm of the dead to become its lord. Set remained a separate deity and enemy of Horus, his nephew. Unlike Jesus, Osiris never returned to earth but stayed dead. Was that "resurrection"?
listen dude ive studyed the egyptian religion for 10 years and its my religion - heru-set = heru and set are depicted as two aspects of the same personality. much like the chinese tao philosophy.like yin and yang -the teachings of heru-set shows that good and evil are aspects of the same personality and they are inseparable and nessessary for the evolution of creation and human development.that struggle in the personality is to recognise the two caracteristics and then control these by mastering their principles. pictures of heru-set were shown as one body with two heads- one horus and one set head on one body -this is the main message of the story - Ra and horus pictures are exactly alike showing they are one - man dont get me started - you fools who know nothing about what your talking about - hetep
rainbowedskylover
03-03-2008, 12:41 AM
there are a lot of simalairities between the cult of of osiris and christianity. in fact, i think christianity adopted these elements from the cult of osiris, even though they won't dare to admit it. instead of that, christians explain the similairities as the work of satan (set-an...lol)
true, christianity actually borrowed elements from a lot of pagan beliefs including this one...
Okiefreak
03-03-2008, 12:52 AM
listen dude ive studyed the egyptian religion for 10 years and its my religion - heru-set = heru and set are depicted as two aspects of the same personality. much like the chinese tao philosophy.like yin and yang -the teachings of heru-set shows that good and evil are aspects of the same personality and they are inseparable and nessessary for the evolution of creation and human development.that struggle in the personality is to recognise the two caracteristics and then control these by mastering their principles. pictures of heru-set were shown as one body with two heads- one horus and one set head on one body -this is the main message of the story - Ra and horus pictures are exactly alike showing they are one - man dont get me started - you fools who know nothing about what your talking about - hetepWhat are your sources? By the way, Ra and Horus did merge in Egyptian mythology, but I though you said Set became Horus. That would contradict the dualism you're talikng about.
Okiefreak
03-03-2008, 12:52 AM
true, christianity actually borrowed elements from a lot of pagan beliefs including this one...And vice versa.
heru (horus) is the god of light - before horus is victorious,he is a symbol of the dual nature of humankind.horus in this aspect represents the oppisite forces that are within each of us,the animal nature and the divine.therefore,the real battle is within each of us and not in the outer world of time and space - hetep
ive studyed the ancient egyptian religion under muata ashby - he has over 30 books out on the egyptian religion - you can find them at amazon - the ptah theology is from the shabaka stone- now kept in the british museum
horus is the savior who was brought to birth,as light in heaven and sustenance on earth-horus in spirit,verily divine,who came to turn the water into wine-horus who gave his life,and sowed the seed for men to make the bread of life indeed-horus the comforter,who did desend in heavenly fashion as the heavenly friend-horus,the word,the founder in youth,horus,the fulfiller of the word made truth-horus ,the lord and leader in the fight against the dark powers of the night-horus the sufferer ,with cross bowed down,who rose at easter with his double crown-horus the pioneer,who paved the way of resurrection to the eternal day-horus triumphant with the battle done,lord of two worlds united made one_ hetep
in the ancient egyptian hymns of amun,verse 32 states that- all the gods are three,amun,ra and ptah,and there are none other like unto them- he whose name is hidden is amun,ra belongeth to him as his face,and the body is ptah- "i became from god one gods three"
starchild618
03-03-2008, 03:44 PM
There are also differences. Osiris never returned from the land of the dead. And etyomologically, the similarity between the names Set and Satan may be coincidental. Satan comes from the Hebrew Ha-Satan, or "The Adversary".in some of the myths about osiris, resurrection wasn't mentioned, but in others he was clearly resurrected to life.
sure there are differences. and the similarity between the names set and Satan are probably coincidental.
but there a lot of other striking simalarities, wich cannot be simply eplained as coincidental.
rainbowedskylover
03-03-2008, 04:55 PM
And vice versa.
is that so? so, certain non pagan beliefs actually borrowed stuff from christianity? could you give me some examples?
glory be to osiris un-nefer,the great god within abydos,king of eternity,lord of the everlasting,who passeth thru millions of years in his existence-eldest son of the womb of nut,by seb,lord of the crowns of the north and south,lord of the lofty white crown-as prince of gods and of men he hath received the crook and the flail and the dignity of his divine fathers-let thy heart which is in the mountain of amenta be content,for thy son horus is established upon the throne- thou art crowned lord of tattu and ruler in abtu-through thee the world waxeth green in triumph before the might of nebertcher-he leadeth in his train that is and that which is not yet,in his name ta-her-seta-nef- he toweth along the earth in triumph in his name seker-he is exceeding mighty and most terrible in his name osiris-he endurenth forever and forever in his name un-nefer-homage to thee,king of kings,lord of lords,prince of princes,who from the womb of nut hast possessed the world and hast rulled all lands and akert-thy body is of gold,thy head is of azure,the emerald light encircleth thee-o an of millions of years,all pervading with thy body and in beautiful in countenance in ta-sert - hetep
horus brings set to you,he has given him to you,and he has bowed down under you for your strength is greater than his-horus has made it possible for you to enclose for yourself all the gods within your embrace for horus has loved his father in you,being alive as a living beetle,that you may be permanent in mendes- isis and nemphthys have waited for you in asyut because their lord is in you in your name lord of asyut-because their god is in you in your name of canal of the god-they worship you do not be far from them-isis comes to you rejoicing through love to you-your seed issues into her-she being ready as sothis-you have power through him in his name of spirit who is in the dndrw-bark -horus has protected you in his name of horus the son who protects his father
horus is the rebirth of the spirit of the divine,the supreme being manifesting as the son of osiris and isis-this rebirth is not a physical birth from the womb,but a rebirth of the mind-like horus regaining the throne of upper and lower egypt - in doing so he has regained mastership of the higher and the lower states of conciousness ------------------------ osiris is the moongod allah
if you want to here this heru-set from the christian bible read the 2nd chapter of 2 thessalonians - read that chapter and it truthfully tells about the 2nd coming of christ - knowledge wisdom understanding - lucifer is the planet venus when it is the morningstar - one of the names of christ is morningstar rev. 22:16 i jesus have sent my angel to testify unto you these things in the churches- i am the root and the offspring of david(jesus),and the bright and morning star(lucifer) - rev. 1:8 i am the alpha and the omega,the begining and the ending,saith the lord,which is,and which was,and which is to come,the almighty----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------rev. 17:8 the beast that thou sawest was,and is not;and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit,and go into perdition:and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder,whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world,when they behold the beast that was,and is not,and yet is! lion of judah style -hetep
1 )the neter ,the supreme being,is one and alone and as nebertcher,manifesting everywhere and in all things in the form of gods and goddessess(2) lack of righteousness brings fetters to the personality and these fetters cause ignorance of the divine (3)devotion to the divine leads to freedom from the fetters of set (4)the practice of the shedy disciplines leads to knowing oneself and the divine-this is called being true of speech-great awakening occurs when all the great truths have been realised by perfection of the shedy disciplines to realise their true nature and actually experience oneness with the transcendental supreme being - nebertcher means all encompassing divinity,the all inclusive, all embracing spirit which prevades all and who is the ultimate essence of all!= from nebertcher comes amun re ptah
christian theology holds the belief of original sin-it is said to be the condition of every human being which resulted from the fall of eve and adam who were the first human beings created by god-however,the term original sin is not found in the bible-it is a concept which early christian theologians developed to explain the need for redemption and salvation by christ-they cite specific texts as implying oringinal sin-these inculde romans 7:1 john 5:19, and luke 11:13- because of this first sin by adam and eve,all humanity is said to have lost the grace of god-under this view it has been understood that the sin of adam and eve is endlessly transmited to all human beings-in a sense this notion of original sin is correct,but not in the sense that the masses of christian followers have come to understand-people have been guilty of committing the sin of eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil from the begining of time,that is losing their sense of oneness with all creation,but they have done so on their own and not as a form of evil inheritance from adam and eve-human beings have tasted of the knowledge of duality and egoism,and these kind of people separated from their knowledge of the higher self-in this respect the people are comittting the sin of ignorance and egoism-the soul came to believe that it was seperate and individual,that it is not connected to god,and therefore,sin and its ramifications arise-sin is the feeling of separation from god as well as the acts that arise out of this state of ignorance-in a broad context sin is anything that takes a person away from discovering their true self or knowledge of the truth-the devil in later and christian and hebew belief is equated with "the supreme spirit of evil",who for all time has been ruling over a kingdom of all evil spirits,and is in constant oppistion to god-the word devil is derived from the latin diabolus,and from the greek diablos,which is an adjective that means slanderous-it is also used in ancient greek as a noun to identify a specfic person as being a slanderer-the term "diabolos" was used for the septuagint or greek translation of the jewish bible,not refering to human beings,but in order to translate the hebrew word ha-satan (the satan),an expression which was originally used as one of the members of the divine court whose function was to act like a roving spy for god-satan gathered intelligence about human beings during his travels on earth-thus originally ,satan meant "an opponet and not a particular being with actual existence-at around the 6th century b.c.e.,satan appears in the old testament as an individual angel that is subordinate to god-gradually as jewish and christian tradition developed around this idea,satan became known as the personality who was the source of all evil,and was responsible for leading human beings into sin-this caracter was most likely influenced by the ancient egyptian god,set,who killed his own brother-however,even set was never seen as the "source of evil itself" until the late dynastic period,which was when the jewish people were living in egypt-this notion of a person who causes evil in human beings is extremely dangerous because it allows people with poor moral development to shirk responsibility for their actions-in later jewish tradition ,and therefore also in christian thought,this title became a proper name-satan was then seen as personified adversary not only to humans beings,but also primarily of god-the development of the devil as the personified evil adversary probibly arose from the early jewish and christian assotiation with dualistic theologys of persia as well as the dualistic philosophy of zoroaster and the misunderstanding of the egyptian caracter set-in some segments of jewish theology, the idea of satan developed as an evil impulse-human beings are seen as susceptible to a force,which is outside of,and separate from them-therefore,with this view it is possible for a human being to become possessed by the evil force and coerced into wrongdoing-jesus was seen as the savior who broke the power of the devil over human beings-this view is dangerous because it negates the power of the human mind to control itself,the power of free will-it also opens the door to superstion and imagination about supernatural beings,which are in reality symbols mistaken as real beings that exist in fact-if satan were the true adversary of god,this would mean that god is not omnipotent because there is a being who can limit his power-so the teaching of satan must be correctly understood in order to aviod error and misunderstanding in ones spiritual movement
themnax
04-02-2008, 01:27 PM
the parallels ARE interesting and the sequence IS suggestive.
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all hallows
11-03-2008, 05:33 AM
heru...paragraphs are neat.
anyways...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setianism
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