Putting Police dogs off the scent!

[Catweazleandfreind]

Iam concerned for the safety of any large 'stash' should the police intrude with 'sniffer' dogs.Although Iam happy with the location of the place I have in mind,my worry is that the dogs will 'sniff' it out!Does anyone have any experience with any substances or chemicals that will cause the dogs an olfactory distraction(put them off,in other words),preferebly without any discomfort or alarm.Surely this is common practice,though I have found very little in my 'searches'.
Also would it make any real difference if the stash was elevated from floor level as high as possible?
Anybody any experiences or advice here?

[ESRUOS ENO]

pepper spray... ground pepper around your house.... ground pepper in your car... really bad for a dogs nose...

[Gratefully Dawg]

coffee grounds, preferably dark roast. If you cover your stash in it the dogs wont smell it. i dont know about a large stash though, that may be a little bit excessive.

[ninfan77]

2 words. Vacuum Sealed.

[SG69]

None of that will work, a dog smells like we see. We can separate colors of sight, dogs can separate smells and can even smell through things. Sure you can hide your stash in coffee or whatever but if a dog could talk it'd say "I smell coffee, pepper, and weed!" while sniffing around your pot.

Of course I didn't know all this until I read an article on it in High Times and bought the DVD from http://www.nevergetbusted.com very very informative DVD.

[ESRUOS ENO]

None of that will work, a dog smells like we see. We can separate colors of sight, dogs can separate smells and can even smell through things. Sure you can hide your stash in coffee or whatever but if a dog could talk it'd say "I smell coffee, pepper, and weed!" while sniffing around your pot.

. (http://.) They train dogs to communicat this way if something does smell funny to the dogs... Dogs will not intentionally sniff PEPPER.. Police dog will get irritated...Depends on the level of training of the dog....

[foxtr0t]

you guys think too hard... air-tight glass jars.... besides its the best way to store and cure weed..

[xexon]

Dogs can be fooled, but most people will fail in the attempt. They can literally smell a molecule.

The most effective distraction is urine from a female in heat. And hopefully the dog is a male.

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[Captain Chronic]

Why the hell would the drug dogs "intrude" anyway? Just don't give them a reason to go to your house. Pretty sure that drug dogs dont just go sniffing around neighborhoods looking for drugs.

[Catweazleandfreind]

I was concerned if the house was 'raided'!I dont know what part of the world your from,'Chronic' but where I'm from this SH*T is illegal!!

[Ricky Martinez]

Why the hell would the drug dogs "intrude" anyway? Just don't give them a reason to go to your house. Pretty sure that drug dogs dont just go sniffing around neighborhoods looking for drugs.I totally agree

[This is beef]

Get some rabbit's blood, mix it with cocaine and get the dog's mussel going in that. He won't smell anything for some time.

[fishheadbob]

Get some rabbit's blood, mix it with cocaine and get the dog's mussel going in that. He won't smell anything for some time.
Brilliant!! If you don't want to get caught with weed, use cocaine to throw the dog off. Absolutely fucking brilliant.
Now you know why it's called dope.

[Captain Cannabis]

Get smell proof bags.

They cost a pretty penny but they work.

[st3wy]

None of that will work, a dog smells like we see. We can separate colors of sight, dogs can separate smells and can even smell through things. Sure you can hide your stash in coffee or whatever but if a dog could talk it'd say "I smell coffee, pepper, and weed!" while sniffing around your pot.

Of course I didn't know all this until I read an article on it in High Times and bought the DVD from http://www.nevergetbusted.com (http://www.nevergetbusted.com/) very very informative DVD.

very very true dogs can sniff through fuckin anything dogs are a nightmare i hear the only trick to ditur them is to coat your stash in vaseline but i'm not even sure if that works. seems like the jelly would lock in the molecules?

[Born25YearsTooLate]

depends on if you're hiding a stash, or a grow.

hiding a stash CAN be done, but the biggie mistake most people make in bagging it, is they don't wear gloves, and get 'smelly goodness' all over the outside of the bag as well. triple layered ziplock baggies, with a fresh change of disposable gloves and a dunk in a combination surfactant and degreaser then cleansed with alcohol

bag your weed wearing gloves, then pull them and seal the bag with a fresh pair of gloves, 'wash' the bag with the degreaser and alcohol, then fresh pair of gloves, then bag again, lather rinse repeat for 3 layers or more, then package in a vacuum bag, wash again, and then jar it. One of my friends did this, had hiding spots in his car, got sniffed many times. Said he learned when he was a kid back in the 70's working for some people that don't need to be named that were very serious about 'loss of product'

If you package like you're working in a sterile sanitary environment, like you're handling a contagious biohazard...then it's possible for the dogs to sniff, snort, and pass the item. Some people'd call this paranoid, BUT better paranoid than sitting in a cell for a few years with a cellmate that thinks you're cute.

If you're hiding a grow, that's a bit more of a test of your ninja skills, but it CAN be done.

[Born25YearsTooLate]

update:

Doing some research, the odorants from pot/hash come from volatile terpene compounds. These can be adsorbed (chemically neutralized through bonding, rather than just sucked up) with activated carbon (the activated charcoal you can get for pool filters, water filters, etc) Wrapping your stash securely, cleanly, as I've stated above, then surrounding it with a layer of activated carbon should cut odors to be even below the typical police dog's detection threshold. (a lot of hunters use activated charcoal clothing to prevent deer/game animals from catching their scent) The size of the stash will determine the volume of activated carbon. I would use 1lb per pound of stash, completely enveloping the (at least) triple or better wrapped brick.

Hard to smell something if there's 'nothing to smell', savvy?

If you're transporting, transport ASAP. The longer it sits, the less useful 'scent-breaking' like this becomes. I'd still encase the wrapped and carbon clad brick in something airtight, and non-organic, like a metal box with the interior layered with silicone sealant compound

BTW, OP, the officers are trained to pick up on a dog giving an 'odd' or 'uncomfortable' response specifically because people try to cover up the scent with unpleasantness. That's not helping you, and in fact, if the dog gets injured, in many places, you can be charged with assault, just as if you'd injured an officer. Most of the scents that we'd use to cover will just be like a flare to a dog anyway.

Neutralization's the way to go.

[Tibbles]

hide your stash outside. I'm pretty sure if your house was to get raided they wouldnt look around outside for your stash

[Born25YearsTooLate]

That honestly depends on how determined the LEOs are to find something. If they think you've got a 'sizable quantity' hanging around, they'll dig up your yard, rip up your flower bed. Don't count on it being 'outside' to save your ass. At least, with being outside, you can deny accountability, as in yeah, it's on your property, but that doesn't mean that you put it there, whereas in your house, you're considered to have 'ultimate control' over all things entering and leaving. Might not get you off the charges, but it's got a better chance.

[LikeanArtist]

None of that will work, a dog smells like we see. We can separate colors of sight, dogs can separate smells and can even smell through things. Sure you can hide your stash in coffee or whatever but if a dog could talk it'd say "I smell coffee, pepper, and weed!" while sniffing around your pot.

Of course I didn't know all this until I read an article on it in High Times and bought the DVD from http://www.nevergetbusted.com very very informative DVD.

Agreed. Myth Busters did an episode on how to trick the dogs, none of their attempts worked. The dogs smelled right through the pepper.
If it is a male dog, the scent of a lady would be quite tempting.

I've never seen the Never Get Busted Again dvd, but I read about it on NPR (and studied in an intro Pol. Sci. class) and the guy who made is an ex-DEA agent who got tired of the fucked up system. He made more arrests than any other in the state of Texas but was tired of arresting prominent Texans. The dvd details how the ppl he arrested fucked up.
Should be a fucking amazing knowledge base.

[Born25YearsTooLate]

Barry cooper's dvd is going to tell pretty much the same things I have, however, I also did some research into industrial air scrubbing, and that's when I added the modified message about the activated carbon, because of it's industrial use to bind up and prevent the release of these very type of compounds. The terpines enter the carbon fragments, and some molecular shuffing takes place. The large, fragrant molecules are trapped in place, in the carbon itself, chemically bound to it, so the dogs can't smell them. Jorge Cervantes recommends an activated carbon air filter on an exhaust to a grow to neutralize the nice ripe skunky odor in his dvds, and I've used similar things on my own to hide very smelly things.

Don't outright trust my advice, but don't immediately discount it either. Do your own research.

The dvd is awesome, but yes, I agree there's no way to 'cover' a scent. But there are ways to either chemically neutralize or slow it down enough that it's 'undetectable' for a while.

[CanniEvergrow]

Get some rabbit's blood, mix it with cocaine and get the dog's mussel going in that. He won't smell anything for some time. I tried this but it didnt work. The cops got suspicious when I called the dog over to me in the middle of the search and "got his muzzle going" in my little container of rabbits blood and cocaine. It prolly woulda worked tho if I coulda just grabed the dog while they wernt lookin and stuk his nose in my rabbit blood and cocaine container without them knowin it.:rolleyes:

[Born25YearsTooLate]

(slaps forehead and hopes people are being sarcastic)

[CanniEvergrow]

Even tho it didnt work for me, I still always carry around a li'l container of rabbits blood mixed with cocaine, -Just in case. You never know when ya mite need it!

[sirbongzalot]

Chili pepper powder will do the trick. Scatter some on your welcome mat so the dogs a nose full before he enters your house...He won't be able to smell his own crotch for a week after that.

[Born25YearsTooLate]

Did you know that a stunt like that can be, in most locales, treated the same as if you'd pepper sprayed an officer? It's considered assault, and IS a crime in progress, which means you absolutely lose your right to avoid yourself and your property being searched. If anything LEOs are MORE protective of their dogs than themselves. Seriously, you screw with the dog, the LEO will absolutely nail you, As hard as he can, for as many things as he can.

If you want to, go ahead, but the more people with dumb ideas like this, the better for the rest of us. It trains the cops to underestimate us.

It's rather like lions and a herd of gazelle. They get the slow ones, the stragglers...the old, boneheaded and weak ones first. So go ahead, get yourself caught. After all, I don't have to outrun the lions. Just outrun you.

[LikeanArtist]

Did you know that a stunt like that can be, in most locales, treated the same as if you'd pepper sprayed an officer? It's considered assault, and IS a crime in progress, which means you absolutely lose your right to avoid yourself and your property being searched. If anything LEOs are MORE protective of their dogs than themselves. Seriously, you screw with the dog, the LEO will absolutely nail you, As hard as he can, for as many things as he can.

If you want to, go ahead, but the more people with dumb ideas like this, the better for the rest of us. It trains the cops to underestimate us.


Thank you! This is valuable information! I had not thought of it before, but it makes total sense. Treat the dogs as officers, otherwise pot is the least of your worries.
And who the fuck want to use coke and blood to get the dog away from your stash. What the fuck? Just doesn't seem sane.

[Born25YearsTooLate]

yeah, we can do a lot with common sense, except for two things...

that which is sense isn't common
that which is common, isn't sense.

[LemboDaWop]

I was concerned if the house was 'raided'!I dont know what part of the world your from,'Chronic' but where I'm from this SH*T is illegal!!

Nobody is going to raid your house, unless you're growing to deal, and the cops come to charge you with illegal substance sales (I don't know the technical term).

If you're growing for yourself, you should be fine.

If you're growing to sell, find a spot OFF your property.

And as far as hiding the smell, I'm pretty sure you're out of luck. Dogs can smell everything and anything.

[Gsmall]

well im guessing hide it somewhere away from the house that no one would know about and bury it lol

[Tucker McG]

For a stash the best way to trick a dog is to not trick it. You have to trick the police officer who interprets how the dog reacts. You can put all the pepper and vaseline on your stash, the dog will still smell it. But if you put your weed in something that dogs are already naturally attracted to, such as a bag of meat, the officer will simply assume the dog wants to get at the meat and won't be tipped off. Of course the dog will be signaling he smells weed, but that's the beauty of not being able to communicate with animals.

This said, it would seem sort of suspicious if you have just a random bag of hamburger meat in your car, so I'd try to make it look like you just picked up groceries. In the end though, it's much easier to trick a human than to trick a dog's nose.