Dittura

[Drekslpr]

Can someone please enlighten me on their personal experiance with this drug. i am interested in trying it but i would like some advice from an experianced user.

[ava]

i have three datura trees in my backyard

they are there because of the stunning flowers
and the perfume they produce

there are so much better drugs in the world
safer ones too

the downside of datura is blindness etc

people make tea...

[stalk]

I work with brugmansia/datura a lot.
If you don't know what you're doing, you'll probably die.

I work with these plants to see the dead. I've talked to my dead friends, family members, random spirits, etc.

I don't ever advise anyone to ever try this plant unless you're with a shaman who knows what's up

'cause chances are

you'll become one of the dead.

I've had amazing experiences with this, and insanely near death spirits.

DO NOT GO TO SLEEP

she will take you,
you will wind up somewhere far, naked, in jail, cut up, yet you will still see angels and it will be insanely beautiful.

Seriously.
Don't even think about working with this plant if you value your Earth life...

[stalk]

For example,
imagine climbing up a tree that was insanely spikey that would have destroyed your body
but you did it anyway
and you saw, miles away, the person who stole your bike
which you later retrieved
with no harm done to your body.

It's a supernatural plant
a super deadly plant.

It allows you to see the spirits the human brain filters out.

[stalk]

I know, that must sound amazing,
and it is
but I can't stress how careful people must be.
Just read the erowid reports....

everyone winds up naked, and in jail.

[stalk]

and if you don't know a shaman
don't even bother....

[ava]

^ all true

[stalk]

Indeed.

Also, the visions are as real as this right now.
The spirits who appear are as real as me and you.

They love to smoke cigarettes for some reason.

Have some as offerings.

[Dr_Robert]

hey stalk, isnt there a way (using LOW doses) to someone who REALLY respect this plant can have fun with it? I mean... if I treat it respectfully, will I finnish freaking out anyway?

tell me please

[stalk]

the plants have different alkaloid content depending on the minute, hour, day you pick her flowers or leaves.

one leaf might not affect you at all one day, but the next, drive you absolutely insane into a pith of hell.


You live in south america, no?

I can not advise you how to work with this plant, please find a shaman.
A toe shaman. Toe curandero. That's what they're called in S. America.


It takes sometimes 4 hours to fully "kick in" this is what kills a lot of people.
They think they havn't had enough, when they've had way too much.
Happens every day.
Stupid kids....
I feel bad.
There are some people who are permanently psychotic forever.
Seriously. This is NOT like LSD.
These are tropane alkaloids.

Seriously, be warned.

Not something you want to fuck with.

It is not fun.

It's schizophrenic land of the dead.

She will fucking destroy you.

I can not stress this enough.

Don't be a leprechaun. Please hear me out. I know what I'm talking about.

Please read copious reports on erowid. Brugmansia. Datura.

[Drekslpr]

Ok so i guess i shouldn't touch it considering all the people i would have around know just as much about it as i do.

[stalk]

Trust me when I say
please find a shaman who knows how to work with this plant.

Did you go to www.erowid.org and read the brugmansia and the datura trip reports?

90% of them wind up with jail, naked, cops, and insanity.

If that isn't enough to convince you...

then you're doomed.

[Dr_Robert]

Yes... I believe what you say stalk, I´m not that kind of stupid kid.
I won´t mess around with Datura so...
There are a lot of interesting plats to know... why would I try the dangerous one?
Thanks for your advice...

Peace!

[stalk]

Do you know any shamans in s. america Dr. Robert?

I wish I lived down there, there seems to be many from what I've heard!

A lot of people think the Toe Shamans are crazy. haha. Makes sense...

[ava]

what made you so curious about datura in the first place? these trees are so nasty to intake i have had people knock on my door to tell how dangerous they are. they are just so beautiful to smell and look at. there must be safer ways to get a high
stay safe, so it is good to know you are looking at other alternatives
check out the other forums