Don't eat MG seeds!

[groovecookie]

I thought maybe a little nausea for a while and then it would pass an I would have thus saved myself the extra time, touble, and expense of preparing an extract as given on erowid. Next time though I'm definitely preparing the extract. I ate about 300 to 400 seeds this morning. Got pretty waisted, but the nausea and anxiety pretty much harshed the whole buzz. Now i'm comming down and nausea and anxiety are gone, but...ugh!

So I just thought i'd let anyone know who's thinking, like i did, that the nasea wouldn't ruin the trip....it does. It doesn't get better till it wears off and you come down like, twelve hours later. Too much sick...I strongly reccommend preparing an extract!

[pushit]

No, man I think it was partly you, I ate somewhere between 300-1000 seeds of flying saucers last weekend, the nausea IS horrible... http://www.psychonaut.com/index.php?option=com_forum&Itemid=11&page=viewtopic&t=27330&lang=en

I was almost exactly the same as him but I ate them, the only things I hate about LSA are nausea and taste of seeds after a while.

Trust me this will help.

[groovecookie]

No, man I think it was partly you, I ate somewhere between 300-1000 seeds of flying saucers last weekend, the nausea IS horrible... http://www.psychonaut.com/index.php?option=com_forum&Itemid=11&page=viewtopic&t=27330&lang=en

I was almost exactly the same as him but I ate them, the only things I hate about LSA are nausea and taste of seeds after a while.

Trust me this will help.Well, part of it was I was on a train most of that day (yesterday). So there was all that movement, but i hadn't eaten anything that day except the seeds. Maybe if i'd eaten them on a full stomach and then puked i would have got over it sooner. As it was i kept running to the bathroom and trying to puke but not being able to. Then there was a lack of sleep involved.

So pretty much for the whole trainride i was trying to figure out whether to puke,freak out,fall asleep, or stare at the scenery which made me want to do all the other three at different times and sometimes all at once. No visuals at all though. Shrooms are better.

[pushit]

You cant puke, pissing alot helps. Try it.

[groovecookie]

I'm going to try the extraction method from erowid with the rest of my seeds. I want to see what it's like without the feeling sick part.

[pushit]

If you can, trust me... Morning Glories are pretty sweet, I think it is a great way to lead into psychedelics. Only thing is, there is ALWAYS some nausea, but Ive heard extracting helps alot.

[groovecookie]

yeah, it has the same effect on the mental processes as acid, but acid gives you a feeling of physical euphoria too. So do mushrooms after the initial heebie jeebie stage, but the MG seeds only made me sick. I miss acid.

[pushit]

I want to try acid and shrooms... hard to get those here though.

[st. stephen]

yah nausea is killer on mg but there is deffinitly worth while effects and for me the nausea goes away after i throw up-which u should be prepared for by the way.

[pushit]

I wanted to but couldnt throw up.

[Friggin Joe]

Do not just eat the seeds.
Natural toxins and added toxins (preservative/pesticide or whatever) are added.
Grind the seeds, extract into water. Preferably a naptha wash on the ground seeds first (let the seeds dry REAL good after naptha bath).

[groovecookie]

Do not just eat the seeds.
Natural toxins and added toxins (preservative/pesticide or whatever) are added.
Grind the seeds, extract into water. Preferably a naptha wash on the ground seeds first (let the seeds dry REAL good after naptha bath).I'm planning on a trip to the hardware store tomorrow. I guess it's with the solvents, right? I guess i can just ask for it.

[st. stephen]

Do not just eat the seeds.
Natural toxins and added toxins (preservative/pesticide or whatever) are added.
Grind the seeds, extract into water. Preferably a naptha wash on the ground seeds first (let the seeds dry REAL good after naptha bath).thats not completely true. toxins can be added but it required that it be put on the pack. there are plenty of packs with no toxins what so ever and are completly safe to eat bare, though washing them never herts.

[goofydrummer]

Smoking weed always cancels all negative aspects of it. I have had that awful experience though. The worst time was my body turned blue and I thought I was dying. I curled up in the fetal position. After the awful MG physical pain left me, I had an amazing trip. But its not worth it at all.

[Friggin Joe]

thats not completely true. toxins can be added but it required that it be put on the pack. there are plenty of packs with no toxins what so ever and are completly safe to eat bare, though washing them never herts.

Ah there you go. Check the pack, too.
If the seeds are without additives, then a simple water extraction may do just fine. Naptha washing in advance is more likely to take out the rest of the non-friendly stuff.

[groovecookie]

Yeah, i was just reading up on it again and if you don't use the naptha to get rid of the toxins and ingest the seeds ground up or chewed well (which is what i did,) then you will be getting a "strictnine effect" which kills the psychedelic part of the buzz.

That explains a lot. I felt intoxicated, but never felt any real euphoria or any visuals at all. I did like some of the dark gothic surrealism my imagination painted for me though. I'm thinking of trying to put it into some artwork.

Got the naptha today. Now i just need to figure out where i can dry the seed powder without having fumes in the house. Hmmmm. I think i have an idea....

[pushit]

I think that MAY happen, but I had a really good time after the nausea and intoxication.

[powertothepeople101]

I tried eating like 75 seeds one time, and all I got out of it was some waving on the walls and when I went outside and looked up at the sky at night, the stars moved around a good bit, but I wasn't satisfied.

[pushit]

Thats cuz you need to eat ALOT more, next time go for 500 seeds.

[groovecookie]

OK. folks, I did it right this time; followed the Erowid recipie. took about a week but now i'm trippin, and yes, the extract is much more fun! It isn't acid...don't think it ever will be. but it has some interesting stuff of it's own. Everything seems more intense, but other than that there's no visuals. Good news, though, no nausea! Yay!.. Well, I'm going to take another couple shots and tear off into the park on my bike and see how that feels. Will keep u posted if anything else worth mentioning comes out of the holy marriage between my nervous system and that magic liquid.
PS. I almost forgot...even with the extract it does take a few minutes. Maybe it works faster if you hold it on your toungue, but it's hard to do....I just want to get it down and overwith. It's not bitter, but...ugh!

It's weird...i feel funky enough i feel like i should be at least seeiing some subtle colorshifts or something, but ..oh, well,...whatever this is i'm feeling it's fairly groovy so i'll just go with it.
Peace

[pushit]

Thats weird, not even a little twinkle in the light?

[_marijuano_]

I believe HBWR is by far better than MG.
You only need 4-8 seeds for a good dose. Less nausea. You can chop them a little and swallow with water, without using a coffee grinder

[groovecookie]

I spoke too soon about the visuals, the colors have been shifting. Had a fun bike ride then came and laid down, fell asleep, had a nightmare, (don't know what about) then just laid there all spaced for a while. then suddenly had a huge urge to take off all my clothes and before i knew it i had this orgasm like......i don't know what it was like except it was really spiritual. It's so weird. I feel like a different person now. I like it. I feel like something really profound just happenned to me but i don't know what it is.

[pushit]

Thats great man, they say that alot of the time you fall asleep on LSA.

[groovecookie]

This extract is definitely the way to go. It really isn't that much more expense or effort and the result is way way better. I was lucky in having a gold mesh coffee filter that works a lot faster than paper.
I'd definitely let the powder dry out completely after the naptha wash-- i let it dry for two days. When it was all bone dry and i couldn't smell any solvent , then i went ahead and put it in the vodka. It all took about a week, but so worth it!
This really is a nice buzz! And, just from my experience, this seems to be a VERY sex friendly drug.

[pushit]

How did you extract it? It sounds like an interesting way to go.

[groovecookie]

How did you extract it? It sounds like an interesting way to go.You need a coffee grinder, some filters, (paper,or better yet gold mesh filter-faster) a couple jars and some VM&P Naptha (it's a solvent you can get in the paint dept at the hardware store) 5 or 6 bucks, and some alcohol..highest proof you can get. I made do with 100 proof vodka.

Grind up the seeds...in the grinder, pour the powder into a jar with about 3 parts naptha to one part seed powder, shake it up let it sit for about twenty minutes. Set up the other jar with the filter in it and after twenty, shake up the mix again and pour it into the other jar through the filter.
You can reuse the naptha, and repeat the above steps if you have more seeds to process.

Then, after all the seed powder has had a good naptha bath, it needs a good well ventilated place to dry out for a couple days. You definitely want it completely dry, so you don't end up drinking solvent.

Then when the powder is bone dry and you can't smell any solvent smell, put it in with the alcohol. I put about a thousand seeds into a half pint of 100 proof vodka and got a pretty good trip from drinking half of that. Leave it in for three days before you drink it.

The liturature all this is from on Erowid gave the impression that the extract works almost immediately, but that wasn't my experience. It was faster than eating them, but I would recommend taking a shot and waiting ten minutes or so and just repeat till complete.

I drank the other half today, but it seems the tollerance factor has kicked in. I've only got half as stoned as yesterday, even though I drank just as much. Should have waited. Oh, well. Next time i'll know.

[pushit]

Man, is there ANYTHING I can replace booze with? I get weird about hard alcohol cuz I tend to get shit faced. If I drank it I would be turned off the whole time.

[groovecookie]

Man, is there ANYTHING I can replace booze with? I get weird about hard alcohol cuz I tend to get shit faced. If I drank it I would be turned off the whole time.Hmmm. You might just want to get a high seed powder to alcahol ratio like i did so you don't have to drink more than two or three shots. Then again if two or three shots is too much alcahol, which it might be--i know i got fairly buzzed just on the vodka, you might just use cold water, but i think there might be more of a nausea factor that way. You know though, now that i think of it, it seems like the mg when it kicked in kind of counteracted the numbing, effects of the alcahol and i'm about 167 lbs with fairly low alcohol tolerance.

Maybe someone knows a way to do it just as well without alcahol, but i don't.:(

[pushit]

All im taking from that post is that you have 167 pounds in ya and cant drink alot. I weigh 230 pounds and have the alcohol tolerance of a viking. So naturally if I have 2 or 3 drinks I'm not drunk and ALWAYS decide to have a few more and end up with friends taking the glass away from me saying go to bed. Can I put beer in it??? If I can Ill chug it! Coors Light with a trip attached sounds way chill.

[groovecookie]

All im taking from that post is that you have 167 pounds in ya and cant drink alot. I weigh 230 pounds and have the alcohol tolerance of a viking. So naturally if I have 2 or 3 drinks I'm not drunk and ALWAYS decide to have a few more and end up with friends taking the glass away from me saying go to bed. Can I put beer in it??? If I can Ill chug it! Coors Light with a trip attached sounds way chill.I'm sure you could, or take a shot w beer chaser. I sipped it slow last time, but next time im chugging 'cause i really don't like vodka....so the beer chaser idea sounds good to me..wash down the icky vodka.