Nihilism

[Meretrix]

There is no appropriate thread for this, but it is closely related with its foundations in existentialism. I was wondering if anyone here would consider themselves a 'nihilist.' And I am referring to a modern nihilist, not such as one that Nietzsche preached against. For more help read some things at ANUS (http://www.anus.com) (American Nihilist Underground Society), especially the definition. There are numerous other definitions online and things that classify people as nihilists, but I believe that only individual people can say what they are.

[L.A.Matthews]

Hahaha!...ANUS...That's funny.:tongue:

[Truckin']

I'm a nihilist but I don't like to call myself a nihlist. I don't like to call myself any kind of -ist. I just don't feel the need to lump myself in with any certain group.

But anyway, here's another great article on nihilism:

Nihilism - The Continuity of Life (http://www.corrupt.org/data/files/nihilism/)

[Meretrix]

I'm a nihilist but I don't like to call myself a nihlist. I don't like to call myself any kind of -ist. I just don't feel the need to lump myself in with any certain group.

But anyway, here's another great article on nihilism:

Nihilism - The Continuity of Life (http://www.corrupt.org/data/files/nihilism/)That makes sense. The only reason I normally group myself with nihilists is because they are the closest thing I can relate to so people will understand at all what I believe in without having to explain it everytime. While I differ from some nihilistic views, I agree with the majority of them.

[smarmine]

If you take the definition as basically (as that continuity of life website states): "rejection of objective truth, social conventions, and moral meaning" than yes, I am a nihilist.

[AdreSac]

sure fuck it, im a nihilist.

[mati]

I consider myself a nihilist along the lines of the budhist teacher Nagarjuna

[Meretrix]

I consider myself a nihilist along the lines of the budhist teacher Nagarjuna

I don't know who that is. Care to explain?

[L.A.Matthews]

Nihilism shouldn't really be in the existentialism sub-forum.

[Meretrix]

Didn't see where else it could go. And it is similar to existentialism, or at least parts of it are.

[questing400]

If you were really a nilihist, how could you type?

[Meretrix]

http://www.anus.com/zine/nihilism/

I think you should read that about Nihilism.

Nihilism is NOT fatalism.

[questing400]

I don't deny nililism. I deny reality instead.

[mati]

see the budhist forum. I deny the "externality" of relations. All is illusion, including the "I". "nothing exists, whether of ourselves, others, or nothing whatsoever." (nagarjuna)I don't know who that is. Care to explain?

[famewalk]

Because we tend to hide economic judgment from the capacity of government administrations to fix or improve situations, Nihilism is the means of purpose which loses all baring on the concrete consequentialism of how and why we would mind our changes amd change the mind of the, now, nothing consequentially valued for the Material Man (mind is the in the sensing of matter for opaque spongeing). Such is the Nihilism which fixes Physics for all time.

[stratface]

i don't understand how one can subscribe to nihilism.

[freexspirit29]

I think nihilism is interesting and I thought I was a nihilist....but the whole idea of it really depresses me so I stopped thinking it

[Simple Compass]

Nihilism denies existence of anything, especially an objective truth.
But at the same time, nihilists think nihilism is true. If there is no truth yet they believe firmly in something to be true, it's self-contradictory.

[Rudenoodle]

Nothing is true, everything is permitted.

http://lexicorient.com/e.o/assassins.htm

[Simple Compass]

When you said "nothing is true", like when you say other statement, assume that the statement itself is true. As Kant has said, lingustics and the utility of language compels one to state what he thinks is true.

Yet you said "nothing is true", which is self-contradictory. We must assume "nothing is true" is true, which contradicts with the statement itself. It is like saying "I am a liar", which is also self-contradictory, because if he is a liar, the statement he just says would be a lie, which in turn implies he's not a liar.

[FireflyInTheDark]

I think I'm the opposite of a nihilist as I find little reason not to believe in everything. :)
That probably sounds really lame, lol, but I'm more of a "why not?" kinda girl.
Hopefully not the annoying kind, though. I have friends like that. They really get on my nerves...
On the topic of "social conventions," is that like cultural traditions? Or civilization as a whole (in reference to Truckin's article)?

[Rudenoodle]

Yes, and when someone says "I'm so hungry I could eat a house" they don't literally mean there going to eat a building.

It's just liberal use of vocabulary to convey a sense of undefinable expression! :)

[sathead]

I this appropriate to the spies, or to the just citizens (ha,ha, ha)? To the nihilist it is appropriate to both equitously, for what is not appropriation if not by judgment of decree.

Who's decree? The official did not know. Then, "Praise Caesar" they all cried.

[BrotherMat]

I would consider myself, if anything, more of an exhistential nihilist, and maybe a bit of a moral nihilist, but i dont say that im a "nihilist" because it always ends up with me trying to explain what nihilism is (even though im STILL learning more about it and teaching myself every day) and alot of people end up yawning and going "yer.....ok, youve got dreads, your a hippie"

[bthizle1]

At times I'd definetely consider myself somewhat of a Nihilist....as nearly all, if not all the conceptional "values" we as humans hold to be true are simply based off human observation. Is there a definitive "worth" placed upon things without the observations conducted by our species? Well...perhaps...then again perhaps not. I don't think it's really my place to say either way, but personally I'd like to believe and think that it's most probable that everything is essentially of the same. In other words everything that exists is simply in a state of being....no state is inherently "better" or "worse" than another as there is a unique oneness about that which is.

I use to joke with people when they'd ask "what I am" in regards to beliefs...I'd say,

Well, I'm an idealist, existentialist, realist, humanist, utilitarian, marxist, epicurean, stoic, platonist, cynic, societal skeptic, naturalist, pragmatist, individualist, deontologist, moral dualist and to contradict all the above....a Nihilist!

[BrotherMat]

I consider myself a Nihilist yes

[Stabby]

There are many meanings of both "existentialism" and "nihilism". Most who consider themselves existentialists in the general sense also consider themselves moral nihilists to a certain extent. To existentialists like Camus, morality is not an extrinsic thing. It's determined by us, the subjects. There are some nihilists who would say that morality doesn't exist, period, and that's where I think that the line between nihilism and existentialism lies in an ethical sense. Also for existentialists, truth is subjective and based on our personal perceptions and reasoning, a nihilist doesn't believe that true, subjective or objective exists at all.

[Meretrix]

http://www.anus.com/zine/philosophy/

Basic description of nihilism how I believe it is. I know almost everyone has a slightly different definition, but most philosophies are like that.