Spiritual Confusion...

[moopher1]

I am very confused right now, i read so many stories about peoples spiritual guides and things that they see and stuff, but if our guides are always with us, why dont i ever notice??

[moopher1]

am i trying too hard or something? is there a reason nobody wants to answer my questions??

[dilligaf]

omg learn some patience yer post was up for three whole minutes before yer second post dude.... n why may i ask did you post this here?

butto answer your question,,, you dont listen or hear,,, :)

[RELAYER]

Dili haha his post was up there for 12 hours!

[moopher1]

hahaha

[RELAYER]

moopher it seems that you are looking for some kind of next-to-tangible proof of some entity who follows you around. And in reality, thats just not going to happen. Its more subtle than that. Let me ask have you tried meditation at all? Because if your looking for a vision of some entity, I cant really help you there, thats a personal occurence and you cant force it to happen. I think you need to be a bit more specific in your question.

[moopher1]

hmmm...i've never really meditated...i should, is it possible to meditate in nature? like next to a river or creek?

[moopher1]

do you think its possible that my guide is giving me hints to meditate so the entity can speak to me? lately just alot of stuff has been goin on, i look at 11:11 alot, i found a friend the other day after about 3 years of not talking to her. ill just say that things have been going smooth for me lately. I got into a rollover, none of the people that were in the car were wearing seatbelts, yet all of us got out just fine.

[dilligaf]

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/newsmilies/3/set12_b/uhoh2.gif Dili haha his post was up there for 12 hours!okokoktwelvehours n three minuteshttp://www.hipforums.com/images/newsmilies/new/whistling.gif

[rygoody]

the spirit is there in energy

you dont really need to see the energy

just feel it

[RELAYER]

I got into a rollover, none of the people that were in the car were wearing seatbelts, yet all of us got out just fine.
How werid! The same thing happened to my sons mom this weekend and she had to have emergency brain surgery. Hmm...

[xexon]

I am very confused right now, i read so many stories about peoples spiritual guides and things that they see and stuff, but if our guides are always with us, why dont i ever notice??




Ultimately, you become the guide yourself. Through the refinement of your own awareness.

Don't worry about what other people experience. Each has their own rate of spiritual evolution. Don't try to keep up with the Jones's, in other words. This ain't a foot race.

Learn to feel what others feel. Put yourself in their place. Learn compassion, and mercy, and forgiveness.

The path will magically reveal itself to you.



x

[moopher1]

How werid! The same thing happened to my sons mom this weekend and she had to have emergency brain surgery. Hmm...I hope she will be okay!!!:)


Ultimately, you become the guide yourself. Through the refinement of your own awareness.

Don't worry about what other people experience. Each has their own rate of spiritual evolution. Don't try to keep up with the Jones's, in other words. This ain't a foot race.

Learn to feel what others feel. Put yourself in their place. Learn compassion, and mercy, and forgiveness. that is a really good simple explanation, im very much less confused. thanks alot my friends

The path will magically reveal itself to you.

[RELAYER]

I hope she will be okay!!!:)

Thanks man. She is going to be alright, she woke up finally last night and I talked to her. She is said because her entire head and face is completley trashed, but its nothing permanent so I told her to be humbled at the fact that God let her stay at the party. -

[sw0o0sh]

I am very confused right now, i read so many stories about peoples spiritual guides and things that they see and stuff, but if our guides are always with us, why dont i ever notice??

Ummm... Well I don't exactly get what context you mean this in? An entity? Like, a spiritual thing on the lines of psychic, meditation, or drugs?

Psychic Entities, I don't really believe in or care for.. so can't help you there.

You can meet this entity through good salvia, DMT, or hero doses of LSD.

Or, if you want to through meditation, I think the kundalini awakening would be similar to the experience... But you'd be surprised the things you can make your mind do through meditation.. I'd look into it if I were you.

I use the term entity vaguely. Who's to say the entity is any more or less real through drugs, meditation, or "spiritual related instances" anyway? Which ever works through your choices and beliefs.. just showing you the way to go from the parallels I'm aware of =)

[LaPoderosa]

dont necessarily even pay attention to anything or anybody at this. what you wanna do is keep up with your present outlook. keeping searching looking for what your looking searching for. don't take what anybody says for turth. read. read as many books as you can, it helps if they are spirit/drug/god/poetry/love centric.

your seeking for an answer

you should be seeking for questions

at some point you'll realize that its all the same bullshit and thats when you'll really start to make progress



never convince yourself that there's an answer to be found in drug use or meditation or any one method of the great search, you'll be in for a long sad trip if you do. the worlds biggergrander than that brotha (or sister <3)

[Shapeshifter]

Through any of previously mentioned methods learn to recognize signs and by the time you will belive them, and feeling will be stronger and stronger what is sign and what is imagination.
For example, you have a thought in your head and wondering about it while you are walking down the street, and you hear the sentence that one of two passing people was telling to another, and it perfectly answers the question in your thought. That can be a sign. Or really anything more or less direct or metaforical, maybe a drwaing on the wall, words from the song, really it can be anything. Just try not to refuse to belive in it so strongly, don't think it is just a coincidence. Sooner you let go that "I need a proof in order to belive", sooner you will find what you are looking for. Right now, you don't even know what you are looking for, but you are trying soo hard to find it. Maybe you found it, but you are not aware because you are trying to find something magical, like from cartoons. Those things are very real my friend, although they seem to look like a wonderland to plenty of people, confusing them and the others even more by just thinking "It can't be real, I am just tripping".

[rainbowedskylover]

ultimately, everyone goes his own way on his path to growing spiritual awaress, so whatever people say, including this, will only be relatively of use. don't worry, you'll get there sooner or later, this lifetime or another, your faith in whatever you believe will probably change and go up and down because of hat you experience. what people say overhere is from their own experience and you will gain that to once you decide you are ready to gain such experience, but please don't expect anything because this will lead to dissappointment rather than to increased awareness

[3xi]

I am very confused right now, i read so many stories about peoples spiritual guides and things that they see and stuff, but if our guides are always with us, why dont i ever notice??maybe what you are looking for is something that you will discover after you learn a few more things. i think that patience is something you might have to learn about before you move on to seeing or speaking with your guide.

i believe that i have a spirit guide and i have only seen and spoken to her once. even before that moment i knew i was not alone.

it is not so much having the proof as it is having the faith. people who need proof usually dont get what they are after when it comes to spirituality.

i have very good reason to believe that as soon as you really start to believe that your spirit guide is with you that you will then receive the signs you are looking for. not until you believe will you see. this brings up the question - are you really seeing signs or are you just thinking that you are seeing signs in order to justify your belief. this is why i say you need faith because even if you do see a sign you can never really be sure that it was not something you saw because you wanted to see it.(hallucination or delusion)

[moopher1]

in the past few days, since i've posted this, ive learned a few things and patience is one of them, and i also started to believe my guide is with me at all times.

The past, about 4 or 5, i looked at the clock at exactly 11:01pm every night. i only looked to see what time it was out of nowhere.

i just notice alot more things, as in signs, and i really believe that its not me being delusional. people have told me that you can feel when something is write and wrong, and lately i've been able to do that, and it seems to me i've been doing more good than i used to. I really feel like a better person lately and there are a few people who i'd like to thank/credit for this...

RELAYER: You my friend are a man of wisdom and knowledge. I have read many of your post's and they are very intelligent yet can make sense to anyone if they can progress into knowing about the post. At first when i read something of yours, i only understand a certain bit of it, but i usually go back and read it again and i understand more of it everytime. Patience is an important part into gaining knowledge about something, and you have helped me.

SHAPESHIFTER: You have helped me think more about something as simple as realizing that doing a certain thing at a certain time can be a sign and whenever i think something is a sign, i can feel energy throughout my body and if its right, then i usually can feel a good feeling, but if not a sign, i dont feel anything or i just feel an energy that seems wrong.

I wish people could realize that such simple things as a deja vu or a certain feeling from something were a sign of spirit. I realize from another person that peoples rate of spirituality are all different, just because someone else can see there spirit guide or an entity, doesnt mean i can, i have to progress myself in order to do that, and even if i progress myself, i still might not see an entity.

[moopher1]

XEXON is also another mentionable person. thanks to all for the help

[xexon]

Awww shucks.

"God" is simple. And the path to that high mountain should swept clean so that is is easily accessed by everyone.

Religion is a poor sweeper and an even worse guide. The higher self (your so called spirit guide) knows the way by heart. So your heart is what you should learn to see with.


x

[mara-aum]

on the subject of your eyes hitting the clock or seeing 11:11 or 1's in sequence of any kind is a reminder to be vigilant of your thoughts. like whatever you were thinking about at that moment will manifest--so make it a happy intention. every number frequency has a vibration 333 is holy spirit, 444 angels & ascended masters, 777 a sign that all plans are blessed etc etc. i have learned that angels/guides often use this as a code or language to speak to us with...as well as synchronicity. The author Doreen Virtue writes on this subject.

in my own personal experience it was after i stopped "needing" to see the entity that the enteties began to appear (even without psychedelics) although the use of psychedelics sure makes it easier. meditating was the catalyst for me. i began to meditate and at first i got 'feelings' that i wasn't alone...then they got so strong that it was enough for me--no more proof required. then one night i was meditating out in nature thinking about nothing, needing nothing...just being and holy shit! a being appeared and explained to me about letting go of a trajedy i had suffered years before through empathy & forgiveness. it changed my life.

[Shapeshifter]

in the past few days, since i've posted this, ive learned a few things and patience is one of them, and i also started to believe my guide is with me at all times.

The past, about 4 or 5, i looked at the clock at exactly 11:01pm every night. i only looked to see what time it was out of nowhere.

i just notice alot more things, as in signs, and i really believe that its not me being delusional. people have told me that you can feel when something is write and wrong, and lately i've been able to do that, and it seems to me i've been doing more good than i used to. I really feel like a better person lately and there are a few people who i'd like to thank/credit for this...

RELAYER: You my friend are a man of wisdom and knowledge. I have read many of your post's and they are very intelligent yet can make sense to anyone if they can progress into knowing about the post. At first when i read something of yours, i only understand a certain bit of it, but i usually go back and read it again and i understand more of it everytime. Patience is an important part into gaining knowledge about something, and you have helped me.

SHAPESHIFTER: You have helped me think more about something as simple as realizing that doing a certain thing at a certain time can be a sign and whenever i think something is a sign, i can feel energy throughout my body and if its right, then i usually can feel a good feeling, but if not a sign, i dont feel anything or i just feel an energy that seems wrong.

I wish people could realize that such simple things as a deja vu or a certain feeling from something were a sign of spirit. I realize from another person that peoples rate of spirituality are all different, just because someone else can see there spirit guide or an entity, doesnt mean i can, i have to progress myself in order to do that, and even if i progress myself, i still might not see an entity.
My hart is full of happines that my words helped you realize how simple all this is. All you need is love and faith. People tend to complicate all of this and confuse themselfes and specially others.
It is very,very simple, just don't do to others what you would not like to be done to you, and don't be shy to show and spread love. By living that way, the feeling that you felt is going to be stronger and stronger and your smile will be bigger and bigger. That means that you will be better and better person in your "eyes" and your confidence and faith will be stronger and stronger making your mind more and more open......and the limit will be where you put it. The limit is always there where you put it. If you belive (but 100%) that something is real, it will be real, but if you have doubts, it will stay unreal. It is huge difference in beliving in something 100% and 99.9999%, and first time you realy belive in something you will notice the difference of 0.0001% how huge it is.
Love you all!

[RELAYER]

"God" is simple. And the path to that high mountain should swept clean so that is is easily accessed by everyone.
x
That's sort of what I've been telling to people who are having difficulty in the beginning stages of meditation and sadhanda practice. Calming the mind with patience and perserverance, however you accomplish this, is only sweeping your front porch clean in order that the Divine will be respected and welcomed to walk in to your Temple :)
If you want to be visited and have true communion with divine saints, guides, and even the Absolute, just focus and push yourself. Trust me, it's not easy, and is in fact the most demanding path in life one could take. But the only way to get your goal is through Love. Good luck moopher!
Namaste Family -

[darkvampiara]

How werid! The same thing happened to my sons mom this weekend and she had to have emergency brain surgery. Hmm...woah! the same thing happened to me yesterday at 2 am. had a flipover had 5 people in the car but were all fine no broken bones nothing