Paranoid?

[earthmother]

Out in the sticks where nothing ever happens much, but now it's all different. Rumors of Satanic cult conjuring up dead souls, grinding up human flesh and distributing in Crank. People hallucinating demons and snakes, ghosts and spirits. Devils. Robberies. Dead bodies, missing girl. Crank madness and claims of having made bitch burgers out of her. Insanity expanding. Craziness and murders everywhere. Many people acting psycotic. Pyromaniacs. Crank plague, worse than cockroaches. The law busts 'em, and they get off due to "bad paperwork". Conspiracy? Bad drugs? Real demons? Mass hysteria? This peace loving hippy started carrying a gun. Running all crankheads off the farm. How would YOU deal with this? Thinking we should become like vigilantes. Not very "peace loving hippy" like! Fight against it too hard and you might get burned out. Literally. What to do? :(

[loverofthewoods]

is crank really that rampant all around you??? damn i hate that stuff.

[earthmother]

is crank really that rampant all around you??? damn i hate that stuff.


Incredible. I'm in a band and we have a campground that hosts musical events from time to time. It puts us in a unique position to know more than we ever wanted to about it. There are about 10 cooks just between our house and the nearest small town which is only 4 miles away. One of our drummers is a cook. We've done everything possible to get him away from it, but he has BECOME it. Even tho the bigger stores in bigger towns are making ingredients harder to get, there are stores in our county that will sell as much of the ingredients as they can get away with because the people who run the places do it too. Even the fire martial's wife is dealing. All night traffic on our backwoods road has increased ten fold, and there have been more murders in the past 2 years THAN IN THE LAST 30. People get busted, and they go right back to it as soon as they get out of jail. Most of the people cooking have kids. My 6 year old grandson lives in a cooking house with his dad. My daughter can't get custody of him even tho she is completely straight and has everything going for her, because he got his charges dropped due to a "mistake". I'd like to be real vocal in the community about the problem, but like alot of other folks, I'm scared too. So, here we are, in the "wild west" so to speak, tryin' not to piss anybody off, and still keep it as far away as possible. This is just a rant anyhow, but I'm almost as PARANOID as the Geekers are! :eek:

[Turn]

Yeah a bud of mine got hooked, kicked out of his house, and in debt, on meth. Hitler used Amphetamies too.... Definetly tool of the Devil.

[Stalkz]

That satanic cult shit is stupid.

But yeah, fuck meth. You definitely aint gettin anyone off that noise (your drummer)


Oh, and "Amphetamines" do not = "METHamphetamines".

Methamphetamines = speed.
Amphetamines = Dextroamphetamine, Benzedrine, Ritalin, etcetera

[StonerBill]

at my freind's performing arts school, practically everyone is addicted to speed. i was interested to try but after hearing how easy it is to get hooked.. i dunno. ive got a very addictive personality.

[earthmother]

I've got a suspicion that with things the way they have gotten around here, and probably in other places, that this scenario is only gonna get worse. This world is a hard enough place to live what with the rabid rightwing warriors running things on the bigger scale. Something like 85% of all Amerikan humanity has problems of some kind or another to begin with. Mental health has deteriorated to the point where a few of us feel like we're living in a nuthouse and the loonies are in charge. Crank is eroding away the fabric of our culture. Nearly impossible to kick. I've done it once. Because some moron thought I needed to try it, they spiked my coffee with it at a party. I see the appeal, but like the "Devil", it is a very deceptive thing. And by the time you've figgured that out it's too late. I predict alot more death and destruction coming very shortly. Most people do not have the headspace to fight this. They are too busy worrying about partying and making lots of money to care until they are way too far in. This ain't marijuanna, folks! And because of these sick souls, the heat is on for all of us. Personally, I'd like to be able to live in a world where you don't have to sleep with a gun by the bed at night. Does no good to "get away from it all" out in the rural sticks of Amerika, because this is where it's hitting the hardest. Everyone wants to protest war and Bush and all that, but this problem is much more serious on an immediate and local scale. I'm a radical. Maybe I'll start an anti-crank organisation. Distribute bumper stickers and tee shirts and whatnot. Fuck 'em. :X

[Stalkz]

That's a good idea. I say go for it.

[purcolekraze]

Out in the sticks where nothing ever happens much, but now it's all different. Rumors of Satanic cult conjuring up dead souls, grinding up human flesh and distributing in Crank. People hallucinating demons and snakes, ghosts and spirits. Devils. Robberies. Dead bodies, missing girl. Crank madness and claims of having made bitch burgers out of her. Insanity expanding. Craziness and murders everywhere. Many people acting psycotic. Pyromaniacs. Crank plague, worse than cockroaches. The law busts 'em, and they get off due to "bad paperwork". Conspiracy? Bad drugs? Real demons? Mass hysteria? This peace loving hippy started carrying a gun. Running all crankheads off the farm. How would YOU deal with this? Thinking we should become like vigilantes. Not very "peace loving hippy" like! Fight against it too hard and you might get burned out. Literally. What to do? :(
Where are you from? I' be scared shitless!

[cc_the_wonder_woman]

crack is nothing but a welfare drug. think about it everyone who is on crack has some way shape or form goverment help (welfare) and we are paying them to sit on there butts all day and do crack while we are working so you tell me if you think crack is a good think to have around.

[ubzerv]

o0

[cool-luke]

crack and crank are different
both are equally bad evil drugs

[BlackGuardXIII]

crack is nothing but a welfare drug. think about it everyone who is on crack has some way shape or form goverment help (welfare) and we are paying them to sit on there butts all day and do crack while we are working so you tell me if you think crack is a good think to have around.
I just can't see how anyone on welfare could afford to buy much crack. It is not a cheap drug compared to say weed. I also agree it is a very terrible thing and is destroying many lives, I voted for the go away option. That was for crystal meth, I think, though. From what I've seen, gak, or speed, or whatever the street name is, is even more dangerous. It does very serious damage very quickly, and I have met a few recovered speed addicts and seen the after effects.
What can we do? It is such a huge problem, I don't know how the system is going to tackle it. The other drug that I have seen mess up people really bad is down, or junk, or smack...heroin. Smoking it doesn't seem to mess them up too bad, but soon as they start to fix...... :(

[ElChivato]

Never tried it and really have no intention of ever doing so. but people can do whatever they want, as long as they don't bug me. i'm not too interested in all the chemically made drugs, 'cept blotter, but it comes from fungus originally so it doesn't count.
peace & love.

[greengoddess]

I hate what that stuff does to people!

[Mr Mojo Risin']

haaa, well, I have done speed before, I had a very short period of time where I did a bit, but I never did it to excess and I didn't really like it particularly... it's a buzz but there is a distinctly dodgy edge to the effect of it... not good was my analysis of it... ecstasy is much the same, also MDMA is a little more ok feeling but ultimately it all feels very damaging and unbalanced... Coke I find is the only one that I have done that feels pretty much OK, but I am not one for being excessive with it and I have only done it a few times.... LSD and DMT is still the only drugs I find appealing, that and mushrooms, DMT is the only one that actually only has positive benefits, LSD and mushrooms I find should be treated with a lot of respect... DMT blows your mind and makes you feel great, it's a healthy thing, not a drug... that's where people should be taking their minds.. DMT and Ayahuasca is the way forward, although DMT is the easiest and safest of the two. Ayahuasca needs to be understood and all precautions should be followed before doing it, but if those precautions are taken I see no risk.

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[make art not war]

don't really care for that stuff, it's just not in my bag

[pansy]

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[SativaDiva]

It's meth that's the problem. It's the users who cannot handle it. Once they become a slave for a drug, then it's all over. I love meth. I'm not addicted, and those that I know who use it own have their shit together. Most of them own their own businesses. They use the drug responsibly, which makes all the difference in the world. If people are going to protest meth, they might as well protest all drugs. I know potheads that fall to pieces once the weed is gone. Let's protest weed....

[pansy]

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[SativaDiva]

i've never seen potheads do the kind of shit i've seen tweakers do. whatever.

peace,

pansy
I've never seen potheads do that up until 5 years ago when I met them. He actually cried. Pretty sad case. I have seen plenty of tweakers do it also. Those are the people who use drugs in place of happiness. I don't hang with those friends anymore (needless to state). I realize that the strong people are the ones who can handle their recreation.

[kif]

I've never seen potheads do that up until 5 years ago when I met them. He actually cried. Pretty sad case. I have seen plenty of tweakers do it also. Those are the people who use drugs in place of happiness. I don't hang with those friends anymore (needless to state). I realize that the strong people are the ones who can handle their recreation.
Lash out at me if you want, but your full of shit! Keep telling yourself what you need to so you wont consider yourself a tweaker. Fact of the matter is, your an addict and are afraid to admit it. Yeah, it stands out and shows that much!

[Mr Mojo Risin']

Out in the sticks where nothing ever happens much, but now it's all different. Rumors of Satanic cult conjuring up dead souls, grinding up human flesh and distributing in Crank. People hallucinating demons and snakes, ghosts and spirits. Devils. Robberies. Dead bodies, missing girl. Crank madness and claims of having made bitch burgers out of her. Insanity expanding. Craziness and murders everywhere. Many people acting psycotic. Pyromaniacs. Crank plague, worse than cockroaches. The law busts 'em, and they get off due to "bad paperwork". Conspiracy? Bad drugs? Real demons? Mass hysteria? This peace loving hippy started carrying a gun. Running all crankheads off the farm. How would YOU deal with this? Thinking we should become like vigilantes. Not very "peace loving hippy" like! Fight against it too hard and you might get burned out. Literally. What to do? :(

The police prefer you to smoke crack and heroin rather than LSD and co. your not a danger to capitalism when your blowing your mind and others on hard narcotics, it's when you start to think you become a threat to the pyramid system of power under which we live, why do you think they wiped all the hippie drugs off of the sunset strip in Santa Monica sometime in the late 60's? within a month of this it was rife with heroin and crack, then they sat back a did fuck all about it. When the mass fights among it's self, killing it's own members, the fat rich wankers at the top are safer and richer, it's their pockets that are lined with cash from the drug addictions, and they have no oppressed mass to have to contain as they're all fighting among themselves.

OK did I run frantically off the point!? Yes a little.. hmmm, not sure what you can personally do, join a movement, create one? I know not your situation, so I am of no use in bring forth a solution... but there is one, even if it's not very attractive/easy.

[TopNotchStoner]

I am the only person I know my age that hasn't used meth habitually. It is so widespread in my area that there is at least one 1-hour special every week on local television channels discussing new developments in meth addiction and abuse and how much it is affecting the surrounding cities. There is at least five clandestine meth labs on my street, and one of them is in the house next door. This shit is worse than crack. I have seen it turn best friends against each other because of the paranoia that they were out to either rob each other, snitch on each other, or kill each other. They all have this mutual paranoia of a demonic little girl in a red dress that is stalking them and planning to slaughter them.

[TopNotchStoner]

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[bobbystone420]

It's not nearly as bad out here as it sounds like it as out there, EarthMother. My advice to you is: GET OUT OF DODGE.

[Mr Mojo Risin']

Seriously worrying... what happens if they come across a little girl in a red dress at some point??? What will happen to her? I mean sooner or later someone will fit the bill for there paranoia and then all insanity could be released?!

[SaraiLoruhamah]

meth is the spawn of satan, cockroaches wont even go near it. It is good for nothing but bug control.

[GratefulFloyd]

I live in Spokane, which is like one of the meth capitals of America apparently.

It does take the focus off of softer drugs like pot, mushrooms, but I do wish it would go away. It ruins a lot of lives.

[AllieCat]

I've heard some of the stuff that goes into meth. It sounds disgusting.

[pansy]

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[GratefulFloyd]

Nope, I'm in one of the best neighborhoods. There's drug use, but its mostly by me and my friends.

The majority of Spokane is filled with fairly nice, unharmful people. Some neighborhoods look a little on the ghetto side, but they're not too bad.

[cerridwen]

not my cup of tea

[zeppelin kid]

Im extremely paranoid all the time everywhere, outside my home, with family even, with friends. I stopped going outside and dont hang out with friends anymore, I just cant trust anyone.

[Gay Graham]

I thought that this was a thread about paranoia not drugs!
I am convinced that I am being stalked in the building where I live by a neo-nazi skinhead.
I am convinced that he wants to beat me up.
Any advice anyone?

[darkain]

I'm all for letting people do to their body what they want, but meth is terrible. Although most meth users are not criminals (beyond the whole drug thing) but its a proven fact that most criminals (up to 1/3rd) are crack heads. THe connection can not be ignored. I wish it would go away I guess. In a perfect world the government would fund a research company that would make meth minus the danger and other long term side effects. But that ain't gonna happen.

[darkain]

I thought that this was a thread about paranoia not drugs!
I am convinced that I am being stalked in the building where I live by a neo-nazi skinhead.
I am convinced that he wants to beat me up.
Any advice anyone?You're a 40 year old male. I'm sure that most people would not want to fight you one verus one. Even if he's larger then you. Any 40 year old male can do some serious damage.

Oh... and carry an knife at all times.

[warmhandedcanadian]

This thread is about what effects meth has had on the OP'ers neighborhood... I think you should do what you need to do to get your grandbabies out of that situation with their father. Whatever it may be!!!!

[Stubb0rnSt0n3r]

Meth = excited tunnel vision madness

Ampedamines = drowzing off to fast little critters crawling around very fast on the floor where there is no more, there is no more, nighty night...

Don't get hooked!

I don't mind it tho, let's me get creative from time to time.
Only a satanic tool if you let it become one.