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UFO
05-15-2004, 11:45 PM
Remember,
To be British is to belong to the most exclusive club in the world.

Power_13
05-15-2004, 11:52 PM
I don't want to be part of any club that would accept me as a member.

Peace-Phoenix
05-15-2004, 11:58 PM
Exclusive? No doubt, not not in a good way. We have, in many ways, quite an exclusivist society....

fizzy_elf
05-16-2004, 12:03 AM
really? why, then i feel honoured *bows* :)

miabubble
05-16-2004, 01:19 AM
I wasnt British to begin with and now I am... it's not that hard to become British...

Mintaoism
05-16-2004, 01:28 AM
hello every one. i should think i should say hello down there becuase scotland is better ( sorry more north) than england.


hello down there.

Don't you think tony blair is an idiot?

Peace-Phoenix
05-16-2004, 01:31 AM
I don't think he's an idiot, I think he's a very intelligent man. But I do think he's rather misguided in his affiliations, and a blatant sell-out....

Spyder
05-16-2004, 01:32 AM
woooooooow...fuck you! unless thats a cleverly placed ironic comment to test us...yeaaahhh right on man!

sonik
05-16-2004, 02:01 AM
UFO was/is a great British band!

:cool:

Peace-Phoenix
05-16-2004, 02:42 AM
I wasnt British to begin with and now I am... it's not that hard to become British...
Depends what colour your skin is I'd say, and in some cases the size of your bank balance....

miabubble
05-16-2004, 02:55 AM
we had no money, and i still get bother for being Russian... its just different I guess... I can never feel at home anywhere becasue people either think of me as 'The Russian Girl' or as the 'British girl" (when i'm in Russia) but those two places... both of hich were my home... I don't feel at home in anymore.. :(

sonik
05-16-2004, 03:17 AM
Home is wherever you make it.

well maybe that old addage wont make you feel better.

sorry

:(

But maybe this will help ;)

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2735

:D

showmet
05-16-2004, 03:21 PM
Are you sure? Despite all the right-wing propaganda we have to put up with, we have an extremely successful multicultural society, and we have a liberal tradition of welcoming outsiders. Britain is the place many migrants choose to come and live because of this.

And we are a nation of immigrants anyway - our language and culture is a glorious mishmash of different elements from all around northern Europe. In the past fifty or so years, we've integrated Indian and Pakistani culture, the culture of migrants from the West-Indies ... at the moment we're in the process of assimilating Muslim / arabic culture. I for one welcome Eastern Europeans finding a welcome home in Britain over the next few years given the recent expansion of Europe! Britain is not static or exclusive. That's a false stereotype.

kier
05-16-2004, 07:06 PM
if it's so exclusive and stuff...can i sell my membership?

i offer anyone the chance to be brittish to the highest bidder

i think i'll be kieran from now on....is that ok?

:D

flowerchild17
05-16-2004, 08:53 PM
Theres' not hope for me... I'm Ukrainian and living in America! Damn it all... I still drink tons of tea though but I can't have fish and chips considering I'm allergic to fish :p

Dizzy Man
05-16-2004, 09:06 PM
Why does everyone hate Tony Blair? What's he supposed to have done wrong? Save the Iraqi people from a brutal reign of terror that saw millions tortured and executed? How was that wrong? Tony Blair has saved countless lives. If you think laws are more important than lives then you're an idiot. People are what matters, and he did the right thing, he did what had to be done, regardless of how unpopular it made him. To me, he's a hero.

Claire
05-16-2004, 09:14 PM
Why does everyone hate Tony Blair? What's he supposed to have done wrong? Save the Iraqi people from a brutal reign of terror that saw millions tortured and executed? How was that wrong? Tony Blair has saved countless lives. If you think laws are more important than lives then you're an idiot. People are what matters, and he did the right thing, he did what had to be done, regardless of how unpopular it made him. To me, he's a hero.erm... saved Iragi people from being tortured and executed... have you not read the news about what the US soldiers have recently been accused of?

Clairexxxx

kier
05-16-2004, 09:23 PM
hate is too strong a word...he is better than conservative governments in my opinion, but i preffer the green party and RESPECT :)

Dizzy Man
05-17-2004, 12:31 AM
erm... saved Iragi people from being tortured and executed... have you not read the news about what the US soldiers have recently been accused of?

Clairexxxx
Yeah, that's all Tony Blair's fault! And a few rogue soldiers torturing a few prisoners is much worse than an evil man in power who routinely tortured and killed large numbers of people.

Claire
05-17-2004, 01:19 AM
Yeah, that's all Tony Blair's fault! And a few rogue soldiers torturing a few prisoners is much worse than an evil man in power who routinely tortured and killed large numbers of people.
Where did i say it was Tony Blairs fault?:confused: ... you have an unhealthy obsession me thinks;)

I am not saying the US soldiers in question were worse than Saddam....

I am saying they were wrong... as was Saddam.

Please pay attention to what I actually say... much appreciated :)

We would be naive to think the US "liberated Iraq" out of an humanitarian motivation... if that had been the case why did they (and the UK) back Saddam for so long?

...and why continue to back Israel?

I would appreciate your views...

UFO
05-26-2004, 12:12 AM
Think about it..........
The UK votes are looming.
Sorry to all you non-british types.
To be British is to belong to the most exclusive club in the world.

Claire
05-26-2004, 12:17 AM
Think about it..........
The UK votes are looming.
Sorry to all you non-british types.
To be British is to belong to the most exclusive club in the world.Explain your argument, if you have one please? When someone is abstract I usually presume they don't really know their arguments / points.

Thanks Clairexxx

UFO
05-26-2004, 12:24 AM
You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers.
You can tell whether a man is is wise by his questions.?

Claire
05-26-2004, 12:25 AM
You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers.
You can tell whether a man is is wise by his questions.?
I think you've just proved my point

UFO
05-26-2004, 12:38 AM
Insanes numquam moriuntur

UFO
05-26-2004, 12:44 AM
If Gold should rust what would Iron do.?

Megara
05-26-2004, 12:44 AM
Where did i say it was Tony Blairs fault?:confused: ... you have an unhealthy obsession me thinks;)

I am not saying the US soldiers in question were worse than Saddam....

I am saying they were wrong... as was Saddam.

Please pay attention to what I actually say... much appreciated :)

We would be naive to think the US "liberated Iraq" out of an humanitarian motivation... if that had been the case why did they (and the UK) back Saddam for so long?

...and why continue to back Israel?

I would appreciate your views...
Because thats all fluff to sell it to the people. Its all about strategy. It was important to have iraq as our "friend" during the cold war..once the cold war ended he ceased to be of any importance..especially when he attacked kuwait and had control of tremendous amounts of oil. We've come toa period where we cant ignore the middle east anymore.... People ask why dont we rescue all the people in africa who suffer under dictators...the answer is simple, there is no strategic value to it.

Claire
05-26-2004, 09:16 AM
This message is specifically for UFO:

I have received your 5 mildly threatening private massages.

Please keep all future conversations in the public forums, I have not and will not reply to private messages from you. Especially when they are nasty.

In my previous posts I was simply trying to get you to elaborate on your arguments... playing devils advocate.

Yes I did rate this thread down, I can do that if I wish, it wasn't personal.

Upset and dissapointed, Claire

dhARmaMiLlO
05-26-2004, 11:30 AM
I've just found out i can get a different passport!!
I was born in Northern Ireland so am elligble for an Eire passport as well as a UK one!
wehay!
i can get all my arabic/communist etc stamps in one passport and my capitalist tyrant ones in the other.
sorted!
:)

~
http://www.btinternet.com/~dharmamillo/prisoners.jpg

showmet
05-28-2004, 11:23 PM
Claire banned? What?:eek:

Edit==> Actually it's "Claire." What's going on?

Power_13
05-28-2004, 11:47 PM
Haha...looks like the new Hipforums has experienced its first identity snatcher.

Looking at the debate between UFO and Claire in the last few pages, I bet it was UFO. Damn, I wish these people would learn...if you can't argue, don't. And if you do argue anyway, and fail miserably, don't do silly things like threaten members and impersonate them. The twit.


So...uhh...I guess after saying that I should look out for a poster called Power13 :p

showmet
05-29-2004, 12:19 AM
Yeah, UFO has been banned. Weird.

Love from
Power13

Power_13
05-29-2004, 12:28 AM
Wow...I'm giving myself love :D...does that mean I am w**king as I write this?

Paul
05-29-2004, 02:00 AM
Remember,
To be British is to belong to the most exclusive club in the world.
Being British means that we are very fortunate to have opportunities that people in other parts of the World will never have ... if that makes us exclusive then we have a responsibility to appreciate what we have here. It is not perfect here and there is much that could improve, but we are not suffering like so many other peoples are.

To be part of the human race is a blessing which comes with great responsibility. No matter what nationality.

Claire
05-29-2004, 12:13 PM
To be part of the human race is a blessing which comes with great responsibility. No matter what nationality.
Beautifully put:)

Claire
05-29-2004, 12:32 PM
Claire banned? What?:eek:

Edit==> Actually it's "Claire." What's going on?*UFO* or *UFO.* or *Claire.* was trying to promote racial hatred using this thread and also by spamming my UK Parties and Protests forum with links to BNP related websites.

Because of my clearly anti BNP stance he also tried to mildly threaten me in PM's.

After being banned twice he resorted to trying to impersonate me:(

What a meanie!

Love Clairexxx