Next Biggest Attack On The U.S.

[Sign Related]

Who will be behind it?
What will happen and what will happen after it's over?
When will it happen?
Why will it happen?
Where to will this next biggest attack be?
How will it happen?

[JesusDiedForU]

Who will be behind it?
What will happen and what will happen after it's over?
When will it happen?
Why will it happen?
Where to will this next biggest attack be?
How will it happen?
All I will tell you is Russia and its allies. The rest is in my dads short 14 page book he wrote that I put onto a website:

http://r-campbell34.tripod.com/babylon

[Jennyflower]

Who will be behind it? The human race
What will happen and what will happen after it's over? the economy will crash and the world will end
When will it happen? soon
Why will it happen? because we are killing the world in which we live, and america has the most power
Where to will this next biggest attack be? who knows
How will it happen? that i cannot tell you

[PsychadelicTreeHugge]

How about nxt attack on the World from the US? War and invasion of other countries simply isnt the answ3er, jesus christ, cant they see that?? They have to solve the problem at the core. Dnt ask me how to, but violence isnt the solution.

[Liberation]

Who will be behind it?
What will happen and what will happen after it's over?
When will it happen?
Why will it happen?
Where to will this next biggest attack be?
How will it happen?
Who Evil
What Unity
When Soon
Why The inevitabilty of conflict
Where Here
How I dont know

[avacado_salesman]

canada is set to invade wisconsin.

[openmind]

America is screwing the whole world
so i think we should all join forces refuse to pay our morgages and guess what they've lost control and the war is overWho will be behind it?
What will happen and what will happen after it's over?
When will it happen?
Why will it happen?
Where to will this next biggest attack be?
How will it happen?

[chickenchoker]

canada is set to invade wisconsin.
-and we'll be ready for them. he he he.

cc

[ladyl]

America is screwing the whole world
so i think we should all join forces refuse to pay our morgages and guess what they've lost control and the war is over
That is a good idea except that Bush would have the police come into our homes with their guns and make us pay.

[Megara]

How about nxt attack on the World from the US? War and invasion of other countries simply isnt the answ3er, jesus christ, cant they see that?? They have to solve the problem at the core. Dnt ask me how to, but violence isnt the solution.
How about the nxt attack on the world from the UK? War and invasion of other countries simply isnt the answ3er, jesus christ, cant they see that?? They have to solve the problem at the core. Dnt ask me how to, but violence isnt the solution.

[Deep Fried]

The next "Big" attack against American people will be by the U.S. Government
When citizens refuse to fall under martial law.

When? Sooner than you think.

[campbell34]

The next "Big" attack against American people will be by the U.S. Government
When citizens refuse to fall under martial law.

When? Sooner than you think.
Well I don't no if you got that from the bible, but you are right. The bible states that there will be a total break down of the american government. While the government troops are fighting with each other, that is when the sneak attack on america will happen.

[campbell34]

How about nxt attack on the World from the US? War and invasion of other countries simply isnt the answ3er, jesus christ, cant they see that?? They have to solve the problem at the core. Dnt ask me how to, but violence isnt the solution.
Well you have to understand that there are people and countries in the world who really, really, hate America. There are nations who believe they will solve it at the core when America nolonger exist. North Korea is believed to have at least 2 nuclear bombs with more on the way, Iran will have one in 6 months. Other nations are working on them. In Iraq there would be many men waiting in lines to be the first man choosen to detonate the first atomic bomb in an American city. You see an atomic warhead would easily fit in the back seat of most cars. Someday in our future one of these warheads will be transported to an America city and detonated. Thats what our government know's. One SUV drives to the center of chicago and in a matter of seconds Chicago is gone along with millions of people. It's really just a matter of time now before this happens. What will a president in office do then. He will have no idea who even did it. The next day it might be New York City. What bush is trying to do now is unseat the unstable countries that might consider doing this but he will fail. The America people donot understand the threat. Only when America is gone will the few remaining citizens understand. I love this country, but our nations days are truly numbered.

[seamonster66]

Quote: The bible states that there will be a total break down of the american government. While the government troops are fighting with each other

Please, for my own information, find the bible phrase that mentions this

[boringtree]

i dont think there will be one. in the near future anyway

the bush admin were successful enough with 911

[Deep Fried]

i dont think there will be one. in the near future anyway

the bush admin were successful enough with 911
Oh I could have alot of fun with this one...but I won't.

[themnax]

the next attack will occur when it is most convenient to the
pseudo-conservative so called political right to frighten
people into forgetting how useless, harmful and totaly
unneccessary the so called political right really is

the only right made by two wrongs is a political right wing

=^^=
.../\...

[JesusDiedForU]

Quote: The bible states that there will be a total break down of the american government. While the government troops are fighting with each other

Please, for my own information, find the bible phrase that mentions this
Jeremiah 51:46

[Lodui]

]Who will be behind it? Me.
What will happen and what will happen after it's over? I will bring about a revoluton to this planet.
When will it happen? Its beyond your understanding.
Why will it happen? It is the will of the earth.
Where to will this next biggest attack be? The entirety of the planet.
How will it happen? It is beyond your understanding.

[JanaXGIRL]

oh, I can't give you answers, but I wouldn't be surprised, if some terorists or something would attact that Tower of freedom, that they wanna build in NY.. i find that Tower as a provocation.. I don't understand, why they do it..

[Soulless||Chaos]

i dont think there will be one. in the near future anyway

the bush admin were successful enough with 911
haha yeah, my thoughts exactly

[DarkStarRising]

Jeremiah 51:46
Wasn't that about the liberation of the Jews???

[fulmah]

Wasn't that about the liberation of the Jews???
Yes. It refers to the vengeance taken out on Babylon, their king Nebuchadrezzor, and the Chaldeans.

[MattInVegas]

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/icons/newicons/icon33.gif Next Biggest Attack On The U.S.
Who will be behind it?

I'm only responding to the above. The next Major attack, should come from our own citezens. These clowns have led us long enough. Are you being represented? I'm not.

[Soulless||Chaos]

Fuckin' right! They sure as hell don't represent me! :D

[randy]

no they dont

we should be representing ourselves and taking a stand, make changes for the better

[JesusDiedForU]

Yes. It refers to the vengeance taken out on Babylon, their king Nebuchadrezzor, and the Chaldeans.
The descriptions of Babylon in Jeremiah 50 and 51 and Revelation 18 is not Ancient Babylon.

[campbell34]

Quote: The bible states that there will be a total break down of the american government. While the government troops are fighting with each other

Please, for my own information, find the bible phrase that mentions thisI believe it is Jer. 51 near the end of the chapter. I will get back to u on this one soon. It also states at or near the same verse when America is being threatened we will only have 2 years left before the nation is destroyed.

[campbell34]

I believe it is Jer. 51 near the end of the chapter. I will get back to u on this one soon. It also states at or near the same verse when America is being threatened we will only have 2 years left before the nation is destroyed.There is so much to be said just on this one chapter but there are actually three full chapters that speak of America, however the verse in question is Jeremiah chapter 51: verses 43 to 46.

[campbell34]

How about nxt attack on the World from the US? War and invasion of other countries simply isnt the answ3er, jesus christ, cant they see that?? They have to solve the problem at the core. Dnt ask me how to, but violence isnt the solution.
Well Americans are a violent people. Remember we murdered 40 million of our own people by abortion, and many people who talk about the need for peace support abortion, which only reveals their hypocrisy. The murder of our own children is not the answer either.

[campbell34]

Yes. It refers to the vengeance taken out on Babylon, their king Nebuchadrezzor, and the Chaldeans.Well actually it really is a duel prophecy, with little of the prophecy to do with ancient Babylon, and most of the prophecy has to do with a future babylon. Today the flag that flies over ancient Babylon is the stars and stripes. America is what the bible describes as Mystery Babylon. Of all the discriptions in Jer. 50 an 51, most of the prophecy deals with America.

[Psy Fox]

Well Americans are a violent people. Remember we murdered 40 million of our own people by abortion, and many people who talk about the need for peace support abortion, which only reveals their hypocrisy. The murder of our own children is not the answer either.This is offtopic but abortion at early stages is not murder unless you want to call when I chop off my hand murder too. In both cases biological organisms die off but also in both cases there was no life other then at the cellular level thus is not really alive, they are just biological machines following their programing like the PC that I bet you don't think is a sin to pull the plug on on your PC.

We might not even be alive, our idea of being alive could be just a fancy illusion of our brains. You and me could just be nothing more then a fancy biological machine with the deliusion it is alive.

Anyway like I said this is offtopic, we have to stop killing humans before debating the rights of celluar structures that may one day become human. And before you say it, no in early stages it is not human since if you change its programing it will devlop as whatever you tell it to: fox cub, kitten,ect yet I agree in later stages it will become human and more alive then it was before.

[campbell34]

This is offtopic but abortion at early stages is not murder unless you want to call when I chop off my hand murder too. In both cases biological organisms die off but also in both cases there was no life other then at the cellular level thus is not really alive, they are just biological machines following their programing like the PC that I bet you don't think is a sin to pull the plug on on your PC.

We might not even be alive, our idea of being alive could be just a fancy illusion of our brains. You and me could just be nothing more then a fancy biological machine with the deliusion it is alive.

Anyway like I said this is offtopic, we have to stop killing humans before debating the rights of celluar structures that may one day become human. And before you say it, no in early stages it is not human since if you change its programing it will devlop as whatever you tell it to: fox cub, kitten,ect yet I agree in later stages it will become human and more alive then it was before.
Does your hand have a brain, a central nerverous system, or a soul. I'm not talking about just celluar structures, and I can see you know little about abortion.
If you ever have a chance to look at some of the early stages of aborted children, you will see a very small child will little arms, legs, feet, and hands. This has been the problem all along. CNN will show the terrible things that american troops have done, yet they will never air what are own doctors are doing in abortion clinics, because it is not politically correct. When was the last time you saw a close up abortion on CNN. The bible states that the unborn child is as viable as you or I from the time of conception. Someday you can explain to God that it was ok for America to kill 40 million children, because they were only biological machines. Hitler looked at the Jews the same way, but Hitler and you are both wrong. The bible also states it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. The God of the bible does not look to kindly on those who murder the innocent. But as you say we are offtopic.

[Psy Fox]

Does your hand have a brain, a central nerverous system, or a soul. I'm not talking about just celluar structures, and I can see you know little about abortion.
If you ever have a chance to look at some of the early stages of aborted children, you will see a very small child will little arms, legs, feet, and hands. This has been the problem all along. CNN will show the terrible things that american troops have done, yet they will never air what are own doctors are doing in abortion clinics, because it is not politically correct. When was the last time you saw a close up abortion on CNN. The bible states that the unborn child is as viable as you or I from the time of conception. Someday you can explain to God that it was ok for America to kill 40 million children, because they were only biological machines. Hitler looked at the Jews the same way, but Hitler and you are both wrong. The bible also states it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. The God of the bible does not look to kindly on those who murder the innocent. But as you say we are offtopic. I can tell you do not understand the creation of a child from a scientific POV. You can abort it as early as the day after sex (morning after pill) at this stage the only hint of human it has is the genetic code that it has yet to run. Like I said if the code told it its goal is to create a kitten it would.

Even a tad later it is just a shell, it may look like a human baby but yet it has no brain functions if you suppended its devloped there and took it out of the womb (not killing it) by scientific standards it would not be alive, its brainwaves would be flat, no heart beat all the signs we use to tell when humans die would be telling us it is dead (but it is not, it was never alive). Thus the point it not alive YET you can't kill something that is not alive. You and religion is confusing its cellular life force and potential humanlife for a human one.

In a perfect would there would be little need for abortion as there would be no rape and any unwanted kids would be raised and loved by the community but we live in a consumerist-capitalist world that has to deal with over population that also have to deal with religion throwing a wrench into the natural safty value of overpopulation that is homosexuality as you kinda guessed homosexuality allows for bonding with the avantage of no chance of offspring. Yet religion being insane as usual if got its way would kill everyone by putting too many people on the earth till the earth life support systems crash and we all die.

Meaning getting rid of abortion without fixing the bigger problems would just fuck up the world more. But because religion is fucked up it can't figure out poplutation needs to be thined out and doing it before birth is better then killing humans after birth.

[BlackGuardXIII]

In a perfect would there would be little need for abortion as there would be no rape and any unwanted kids would be raised and loved by the community but we live in a consumerist-capitalist world that has to deal with over population that also have to deal with religion throwing a wrench into the natural safty value of overpopulation that is homosexuality as you kinda guessed homosexuality allows for bonding with the avantage of no chance of offspring. Yet religion being insane as usual if got its way would kill everyone by putting too many people on the earth till the earth life support systems crash and we all die.

Meaning getting rid of abortion without fixing the bigger problems would just fuck up the world more. But because religion is fucked up it can't figure out poplutation needs to be thined out and doing it before birth is better then killing humans after birth.

psyfox


makes sense to me, but I doubt it will supercede the hurtful, stubborn, jusdgemental, qualities that blind faith instills.

I think of the same type of things re: offing serial killers. Someday maybe we can eliminate prisons and help all criminals to learn how not to hurt. Until then, I am all for humanely euthanzing anyone with 2 or more 1st deg. murder convictions. And doing it within a year of conviction., preferablly much less.


I live in a very christian area, and when my bro graduated there were 23 fellow students who were using the daycare they needed to set up due to the number of teen pregnancies that year.
They teach abstinence here.

[campbell34]

I can tell you do not understand the creation of a child from a scientific POV. You can abort it as early as the day after sex (morning after pill) at this stage the only hint of human it has is the genetic code that it has yet to run. Like I said if the code told it its goal is to create a kitten it would.

Even a tad later it is just a shell, it may look like a human baby but yet it has no brain functions if you suppended its devloped there and took it out of the womb (not killing it) by scientific standards it would not be alive, its brainwaves would be flat, no heart beat all the signs we use to tell when humans die would be telling us it is dead (but it is not, it was never alive). Thus the point it not alive YET you can't kill something that is not alive. You and religion is confusing its cellular life force and potential humanlife for a human one.

In a perfect would there would be little need for abortion as there would be no rape and any unwanted kids would be raised and loved by the community but we live in a consumerist-capitalist world that has to deal with over population that also have to deal with religion throwing a wrench into the natural safty value of overpopulation that is homosexuality as you kinda guessed homosexuality allows for bonding with the avantage of no chance of offspring. Yet religion being insane as usual if got its way would kill everyone by putting too many people on the earth till the earth life support systems crash and we all die.

Meaning getting rid of abortion without fixing the bigger problems would just fuck up the world more. But because religion is fucked up it can't figure out poplutation needs to be thined out and doing it before birth is better then killing humans after birth.God knew the person before he or she was concived, that would be the spirtual side of the child that is joined with the physical at conception. That is unless you don't kill the child first. At 8 weeks many woman are not even aware they are pregnant, and yet you can measure brain wave activity. By five weeks the childs heart is already beating. By 10 weeks the child already has his or her teeth forming in it's gums. By 12 weeks the childs vocal chords are complete and the brain is fully formed. And this is the age that most abortions take place. Please don't try and tell me this child is not alive. This miracle of life you think is nothing more than crap to flush down a toilet. Hitler thought a perfect would require the killing of all Jews you believe a perfect world requires the killing of these children. What's wrong with the world is your kind of elitest thinking. Where the strong decided who is worthy to live and who is not. We dont't have a problem here in America with overpopulation, we do have a problem with over eating, so I guess there is enought food for most of us. Religion has given Christianity a bad name, but the truth of the bible is for every generation. I can tell you this, if you are wondering why the Democrats can't win elections it is because of abortions. That's right you have aborted your voting base and for the next 20 years even if they stopped abortions today, Republicans will have a greater share of the votes. You goofs did it to yourselves. Read the article the cradel will rock. It was in News Week. Republican woman have 30% less abortions than Democrats and they tend to have more children. You think these last elections were bad, wait until you see the next one's. Every year tens of thousands of voters will be added to Republican voting blocks while Democrat voting blocks will shrink. The only thing good about abortion is that this kind of demented evil will someday, and that day is coming will be voted out of our land. Just like the evil of slavery. By the way, God has a plan for the earth which the prophecies speak of. But then again, you would have to read the bible to understand it which few do. And the bigger problem in the earth today is that some people think it's ok to slaughter the innocent. That is the bigger problem.

[Psy Fox]

God knew the person before he or she was concived, that would be the spirtual side of the child that is joined with the physical at conception. That is unless you don't kill the child first. At 8 weeks many woman are not even aware they are pregnant, and yet you can measure brain wave activity. By five weeks the childs heart is already beating. By 10 weeks the child already has his or her teeth forming in it's gums. By 12 weeks the childs vocal chords are complete and the brain is fully formed.
Hello I said you can abort as early as 24 hours after sex.

And this is the age that most abortions take place. Please don't try and tell me this child is not alive. This miracle of life you think is nothing more than crap to flush down a toilet.
Things die get use to it. I don't like it but it is a fact of life.

Hitler thought a perfect would require the killing of all Jews you believe a perfect world requires the killing of these children. What's wrong with the world is your kind of elitest thinking. Where the strong decided who is worthy to live and who is not. We dont't have a problem here in America with overpopulation, we do have a problem with over eating, so I guess there is enought food for most of us.
Hello, every life support system on Earth is in decline. Every decade we have less clean air, water, soil,ect.

We are overpopulated, it is impossible to bring all 6 billion people above poverty and as time goes on the population goes up and resources goes down. More people to look after with less resources to do it.


Religion has given Christianity a bad name, but the truth of the bible is for every generation. I can tell you this, if you are wondering why the Democrats can't win elections it is because of abortions. That's right you have aborted your voting base and for the next 20 years even if they stopped abortions today, Republicans will have a greater share of the votes. You goofs did it to yourselves. Read the article the cradel will rock. It was in News Week. Republican woman have 30% less abortions than Democrats and they tend to have more children. You think these last elections were bad, wait until you see the next one's. Every year tens of thousands of voters will be added to Republican voting blocks while Democrat voting blocks will shrink. The only thing good about abortion is that this kind of demented evil will someday, and that day is coming will be voted out of our land. Just like the evil of slavery. By the way, God has a plan for the earth which the prophecies speak of. But then again, you would have to read the bible to understand it which few do. And the bigger problem in the earth today is that some people think it's ok to slaughter the innocent. That is the bigger problem. Look those that do abortions are cleaning up your mess and you piss on them. It is because of religion we have the need for them, if religion instead of teaching abstinence teached contraception and forms of sexual pleasure that don't lead to a baby, we would be well on our way on meeting your goal but your own fucking religion is the problem.

You won't get rid of abortion being a bible thumper, you'll just push it undergrond since if your remeber abortion use to be illegal in the USA then the people rised up aginst the goverment since they wanted safe abortions. Yet people like you can't figure out abortions are a symptom not a issue and until the root cause is fixed you have to be some twised fuck to want women to have abortions in unsafe enviorments.

[campbell34]

Hello I said you can abort as early as 24 hours after sex.
Things die get use to it. I don't like it but it is a fact of life.
Hello, every life support system on Earth is in decline. Every decade we have less clean air, water, soil,ect.

We are overpopulated, it is impossible to bring all 6 billion people above poverty and as time goes on the population goes up and resources goes down. More people to look after with less resources to do it.

Look those that do abortions are cleaning up your mess and you piss on them. It is because of religion we have the need for them, if religion instead of teaching abstinence teached contraception and forms of sexual pleasure that don't lead to a baby, we would be well on our way on meeting your goal but your own fucking religion is the problem.

You won't get rid of abortion being a bible thumper, you'll just push it undergrond since if your remeber abortion use to be illegal in the USA then the people rised up aginst the goverment since they wanted safe abortions. Yet people like you can't figure out abortions are a symptom not a issue and until the root cause is fixed you have to be some twised fuck to want women to have abortions in unsafe enviorments.
So it is religion that is to blame for abortion. Talk about someone not taking responsiblilty. Wow. No, it is not religion that is to blame. This is the fault of an immoral generation that makes fun of the bible and pratices evil. Years ago abortions were few in number. And one of the reasons was because a lot of people did not sleep around like they do today. And a lot of the diseases we are dealing with now, were not common because we did not sleep around. The fact is, if this present generation lived lives in line with the scriptures, we would not have this epidemic of disease, sickness, aids, and slaughter of the unborn. It was this generation that said the last generation was stupid. And that was because they did not pratice your kind of sexual freedom. Well you got your sexual freedom, and at what a cost. And now you blame the church because it did not join in with your immorality. This generation sleeps around like animals, you spread your diseases because of your irresponsibility, and then you blame the church. It is because you rejected the teachings of the bible that we are in this mess today. This is your doing. And know the people did not rise up against the government and demand safe abortions, there was never a vote taken. It came about because of judges on the surpream court, and not by any popular vote by the people. And back in 1963 it never would of passed. According to the bible which talkes about America in at least three chapters, God is going to hand our country over to our enemies because of our evil. God states that are sins are as high as the heavens. God is going to allow northern nations to rise up against us and the bible states that all of our cities will burn, and our nation will come to her end in one hours time. Those who love the Lord will be removed out of America, those who don't will burn. The bible clearly states that nations to are north will come and destroy us. It will be a sneak attack. The bible also points out that this will happen in the day when the Jews are back in Israel and control Jerusalem. Also in this same day the bible states that the East Gate in Jerusalem will be sealed until Christ returns to the temple mount. The east gate in Jerusalem is sealed today and has been sealed for over 400 years. The Bible states that the generation of people who are born when Israel becomes a nation would not completely pass away before all bible prophecies are fulfilled. Israel became a nation in 1948. Time is running out for this sin sick world.

[crummyrummy]

Who will be behind it? The Girl Scouts
What will happen and what will happen after it's over? People will die, cell phones wont stop recieving signals
When will it happen? your birthday, its the secret sign, on the anniversary of your birth, all girl scout hell breaks loose.
Why will it happen? to prove to your 8th grade school counsillor that you arent crazy.
Where to will this next biggest attack be? The TRL Studio, Times Sqaure, New York.
How will it happen? hot air balloon.

[Psy Fox]

So it is religion that is to blame for abortion. Talk about someone not taking responsiblilty. Wow. No, it is not religion that is to blame. This is the fault of an immoral generation that makes fun of the bible and pratices evil. Years ago abortions were few in number.
WRONG!, there was as many abortions as there are today, they were just done by self mutilation of people not knowing what they where doing jabing shap objects up the vulva that usally also killed the women.

And one of the reasons was because a lot of people did not sleep around like they do today.
WRONG!, People sleeped around MORE before. Farmers use to fuck sheep,pigs and hens.

Not only that but it was a common knowledge here of priests taking the train to Montreal to fuck prostitutes back in the 50's to 70's.


And a lot of the diseases we are dealing with now, were not common because we did not sleep around.
WRONG! STD has been around for some time, the older ones just don't get as much attention as AIDS.

The fact is, if this present generation lived lives in line with the scriptures, we would not have this epidemic of disease, sickness, aids, and slaughter of the unborn.
WRONG! Statisticly priest fuck more as they devlop sexual mential illnesses. The Church rules are unhealthy in this respect as botting up sexuality has a high risk of warping the human brain turning people in sex offenders. Scientiest have proven it is mential abuse to bottle up sexuality is basicly mential torture that is why priest are usally the ones that fuck little boys and girls.

Through out the history of church there is evidince of the church policy on sex leading to sexual twisted priests.


It was this generation that said the last generation was stupid. And that was because they did not pratice your kind of sexual freedom. Well you got your sexual freedom, and at what a cost.
Not fully and worth not having warped priest fucking boys because they had no healty outlet for that energy.


And now you blame the church because it did not join in with your immorality.
The church is immoral for brainwashing people thinking sexuality is bad.


It is because you rejected the teachings of the bible that we are in this mess today.
It is because the church rejects love that we are in this mess. It is just sick for the church to sprew this crap of not having sex. The church should teach how to have express their sexuality&love safely without having a baby.

Instead the church keeps turning out sexualy fucked up people that will become rapist.

This is your doing. And know the people did not rise up against the government and demand safe abortions, there was never a vote taken.
Didn't need one, the people took the streets.

It came about because of judges on the surpream court, and not by any popular vote by the people. And back in 1963 it never would of passed. According to the bible which talkes about America in at least three chapters, God is going to hand our country over to our enemies because of our evil. God states that are sins are as high as the heavens. God is going to allow northern nations to rise up against us and the bible states that all of our cities will burn, and our nation will come to her end in one hours time. Those who love the Lord will be removed out of America, those who don't will burn. The bible clearly states that nations to are north will come and destroy us. It will be a sneak attack. The bible also points out that this will happen in the day when the Jews are back in Israel and control Jerusalem. Also in this same day the bible states that the East Gate in Jerusalem will be sealed until Christ returns to the temple mount. The east gate in Jerusalem is sealed today and has been sealed for over 400 years. The Bible states that the generation of people who are born when Israel becomes a nation would not completely pass away before all bible prophecies are fulfilled. Israel became a nation in 1948. Time is running out for this sin sick world. Time is running out but its mother nature that is gona be the one bitch slaping us. This world has abused mother earther way to long and she'll won't let God have all the fun:)

[campbell34]

WRONG!, there was as many abortions as there are today, they were just done by self mutilation of people not knowing what they where doing jabing shap objects up the vulva that usally also killed the women.
WRONG!, People sleeped around MORE before. Farmers use to fuck sheep,pigs and hens.

Not only that but it was a common knowledge here of priests taking the train to Montreal to fuck prostitutes back in the 50's to 70's.

WRONG! STD has been around for some time, the older ones just don't get as much attention as AIDS.
WRONG! Statisticly priest fuck more as they devlop sexual mential illnesses. The Church rules are unhealthy in this respect as botting up sexuality has a high risk of warping the human brain turning people in sex offenders. Scientiest have proven it is mential abuse to bottle up sexuality is basicly mential torture that is why priest are usally the ones that fuck little boys and girls.

Through out the history of church there is evidince of the church policy on sex leading to sexual twisted priests.

Not fully and worth not having warped priest fucking boys because they had no healty outlet for that energy.

The church is immoral for brainwashing people thinking sexuality is bad.

It is because the church rejects love that we are in this mess. It is just sick for the church to sprew this crap of not having sex. The church should teach how to have express their sexuality&love safely without having a baby.

Instead the church keeps turning out sexualy fucked up people that will become rapist.
Didn't need one, the people took the streets.
Time is running out but its mother nature that is gona be the one bitch slaping us. This world has abused mother earther way to long and she'll won't let God have all the fun:)Hey kid, I lived back in the 50s, and I know what was going on back then, and some people did played around, but it was never like today. I have never seen such an immoral generation like we got now, not in my whole life. When I was growing up the big thing was to kiss a girl, not to have sex with her. And i'm 54 years old so I have seen a few things. In my day Africa was not dieing off because of Aids. And Christian faith was not a religion or a church, it was a belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. When He removes the real Church most of the people in the churches today will be left behind. Along with many of the priest. The church that I attended never said sex was evil, but in marriage was a wonderful thing, and part of God's plan. The women are not here to be used for your selfish gradification. They are to be loved and respected. They are not your personal sex doll, and to many guys look at them like tyhat. And then when when there is an accident and she gets pregnant they have to kill the kid because that would get in the way of thier sex lives. What an evil and sick generation. And Mother Natures, real name is Jesus Christ who you and all people will answer to. And obviously you know nothing about the prophecies just like so many of them in the church. The blind will lead the blind and they will both fall in the pit.

[Psy Fox]

Hey kid, I lived back in the 50s, and I know what was going on back then, and some people did played around, but it was never like today. I have never seen such an immoral generation like we got now, not in my whole life.
That is because back in the 50's it was hidden but was still there.

When I was growing up the big thing was to kiss a girl, not to have sex with her.
Again your looking at the surface. People always think the past was better but be it past, present and future there are all fucked up.

And i'm 54 years old so I have seen a few things. In my day Africa was not dieing off because of Aids. And Christian faith was not a religion or a church, it was a belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ. When He removes the real Church most of the people in the churches today will be left behind. Along with many of the priest. The church that I attended never said sex was evil, but in marriage was a wonderful thing, and part of God's plan. The women are not here to be used for your selfish gradification. They are to be loved and respected. They are not your personal sex doll, and to many guys look at them like tyhat. And then when when there is an accident and she gets pregnant they have to kill the kid because that would get in the way of thier sex lives. What an evil and sick generation.
Right, but Women like sex too. I agree there is too much shallow sex but sex for mutual pleasurement is a wonderful thing inside and out of marriage. This is the problem the church is aginst contraception or teaching birthless forms of sexual pleasurement. The church is even aginst self pleasurement so you can't win with the church.

So I do agree with you but my solution is being honest and open. Yet abortion is needed as a temporary solution to the efforts church.


And Mother Natures, real name is Jesus Christ who you and all people will answer to.
Dude you just made a huge sin, you put Jesus above God. Only God is God, remeber Jesus is only the son of God or the messiah (or simply a messiah) depending on who you ask. So the correct answer would be Mother Natures real name is God.

Anyway there are tons of religions all saying they know the truth about God. It is a crap shoot for example Islam could be right and both of us go to hell:X


And obviously you know nothing about the prophecies just like so many of them in the church. The blind will lead the blind and they will both fall in the pit. Seeing as you made the sin of calling Jesus God your not one to criticize.

[campbell34]

That is because back in the 50's it was hidden but was still there.
Again your looking at the surface. People always think the past was better but be it past, present and future there are all fucked up.
Right, but Women like sex too. I agree there is too much shallow sex but sex for mutual pleasurement is a wonderful thing inside and out of marriage. This is the problem the church is aginst contraception or teaching birthless forms of sexual pleasurement. The church is even aginst self pleasurement so you can't win with the church.

So I do agree with you but my solution is being honest and open. Yet abortion is needed as a temporary solution to the efforts church.

Dude you just made a huge sin, you put Jesus above God. Only God is God, remeber Jesus is only the son of God or the messiah (or simply a messiah) depending on who you ask. So the correct answer would be Mother Natures real name is God.

Anyway there are tons of religions all saying they know the truth about God. It is a crap shoot for example Islam could be right and both of us go to hell:X

Seeing as you made the sin of calling Jesus God your not one to criticize.Jesus is God, I and the Father are one. If you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father. Islam does not have the fulfilled prophecies the bible does. And abortion which is muder should never be a solution, unless you think like Hitler. The bible speaks the truth you obviously know nothing about it's prophecies. Yet you try to speak hear like you know what u are talking about. And if you knew about the prophecies you would understand how little time we have left.

[OctoberMoon]

And abortion which is muder should never be a solution, unless you think like Hitler.
I am offended. Just because YOU do not agree with abortions gives you no right to call someone who thinks they are ok (in certian situations) a person who "thinks like Hitler". We are all different. We all come from different walks of life. And we all are born into different belief systems...or develope our our set of beliefs. Either way...I respect others who's beliefs are different from mine, and I take high offense to someone who makes comments like that.

We can agree to disagree on the abortion issue. But please...there is no need to compare half of our society to Hitler.

[Psy Fox]

Jesus is God, I and the Father are one. If you have seen Jesus you have seen the Father.
No Jesus is not God and is a sin to belive Jesus is God. Your are only suppose to pray and worship God and Jesus just died for your sins. When you die you only get to judged by Jesus if you accept his sacrifice for your sins if not you have to be judged by God (suppose to be harder).

How the fuck can you have a option of judgment if Jesus and God is the same?

[Spiritforces]

What I mostly see is FEAR


Who ?
What ?
When ?
Why ?
Where ?
How ?

Be scared

Buh !



The topic is a so "politicaly" sensible one
I am far from making fun of it in my life
Don't flame me
I don't mean anyone is better than another

Was that an expression of FEAR?

[redhatter]

It really bothers me to see how smug some of the Christians are in their presentation of certain beliefs. It may be alright to believe that abortion has much in common with the holocaust (though I don't believe it at all; for one thing, the element of malice is not present with abortion as it was with the holocaust), or in a definitive interpretation of the meaning of Babylon in scripture, but to insist on these things as if they are definitely true comes across as unwarranted intellectual pride. I know it well, as I'm often guilty of it myself!

[campbell34]

I am offended. Just because YOU do not agree with abortions gives you no right to call someone who thinks they are ok (in certian situations) a person who "thinks like Hitler". We are all different. We all come from different walks of life. And we all are born into different belief systems...or develope our our set of beliefs. Either way...I respect others who's beliefs are different from mine, and I take high offense to someone who makes comments like that.

We can agree to disagree on the abortion issue. But please...there is no need to compare half of our society to Hitler.
Well Hitler came from a different walk of life, and he was born into a different belief system, and he developed his own set of beliefs. Should we respect him because his beliefs were different from ours. Hitler killed them out of the womb you think it's ok to kill them in the womb. What's the difference? Murder is murder. Sorry you are offended, but legal murder offends me.

[campbell34]

No Jesus is not God and is a sin to belive Jesus is God. Your are only suppose to pray and worship God and Jesus just died for your sins. When you die you only get to judged by Jesus if you accept his sacrifice for your sins if not you have to be judged by God (suppose to be harder).

How the fuck can you have a option of judgment if Jesus and God is the same?
No, Jesus is God. In the Old testament (Isaiah 44:24) it states that Jehovah created all things and the Earth alone and by Himself, yet the New testament (John 1:3) states that Jesus created all things. SO TELL ME, WHO CREATED ALL THINGS, WAS IT JESUS, OR JEHOVAH?

You might want to read John 1:10

[campbell34]

It really bothers me to see how smug some of the Christians are in their presentation of certain beliefs. It may be alright to believe that abortion has much in common with the holocaust (though I don't believe it at all; for one thing, the element of malice is not present with abortion as it was with the holocaust), or in a definitive interpretation of the meaning of Babylon in scripture, but to insist on these things as if they are definitely true comes across as unwarranted intellectual pride. I know it well, as I'm often guilty of it myself!So if you murder a person without MALICE that makes it ok. WOW. I did not come to the understanding of Babylon by intellectuall works, but by the Spirit of God, who is now showing this truth to christians around the earth. Human reason is not the proper way to understand the scriptures. It is the Holy Spirt that reveals the deeper secrets to those who seek God's knowledge. I ask God to show me these things, and one year latter while I was staying in an old farm house up in Minnesota He did. He is a God of wonder, who is soon to return.

[Psy Fox]

No, Jesus is God. In the Old testament (Isaiah 44:24) it states that Jehovah created all things and the Earth alone and by Himself, yet the New testament (John 1:3) states that Jesus created all things. SO TELL ME, WHO CREATED ALL THINGS, WAS IT JESUS, OR JEHOVAH?

You might want to read John 1:10
Even Jesus never said he was God and if Jesus is God, it is a plot hole that disproves the whole thing. For starters if Jesus was God he would be immortial and we would have never been able to hurt or kill him also if true that Jesus is God then Jesus DIDN'T die for our sins since your can't sacrifice Jesus to God if God is Jesus so instead it means we killed God and that can't be good.

[JesusDiedForU]

Even Jesus never said he was God and if Jesus is God, it is a plot hole that disproves the whole thing. For starters if Jesus was God he would be immortial and we would have never been able to hurt or kill him also if true that Jesus is God then Jesus DIDN'T die for our sins since your can't sacrifice Jesus to God if God is Jesus so instead it means we killed God and that can't be good.
PLEASE, go look up some information on the Trinity before you write anymore. In a atom there is the proton, the electron and the neutron they are all different parts but make up ONE object. Similar to the atom the Trinity is composed of three heads: the father (God), the son (Jesus), and the holy spirit. Different parts but all ONE.

Jesus was 100% man and 100% God.

[Psy Fox]

PLEASE, go look up some information on the Trinity before you write anymore. In a atom there is the proton, the electron and the neutron they are all different parts but make up ONE object. Similar to the atom the Trinity is composed of three heads: the father (God), the son (Jesus), and the holy spirit. Different parts but all ONE.

Jesus was 100% man and 100% God.So now the holy spirt is also God?

Right but Jesus didn't always exist. You have way to many problems pop up with the Trinity as: God minus Jesus (as God has yet to create Jesus) taking note God is not finite in any respect (else God would only be a god and not the God) then you add Jesus (Really don't matter here if he is finite or not) to the infinite power of God and you have a change in reality because as soon as you add, it becomes finite there was a change so now even if God was all powerful, God instantly was not all powerful before Jesus.

Also time is not a problem here, it makes no differnece if as soon as it happened it always been as it is a logic problem.

[redhatter]

I did not write that abortion was "ok," but that comparing it with the holocaust is a very poor analogy. Twisting the word of others is not a very appealling trait. The apostle Paul wrote that he became all things to all people. By that, he did not mean that he ever compromised his beliefs, but rather, that he tried to communicate with people in a way that they could understand. Rather than drive people away through arrogance, he met people where they were. His sermon on Mars Hill is an example of this. I cannot imagine that very many people would want whatever spirit it is that you have. The spirt of arrogance does not have the ring of truth.

[Spiritforces]

Buh!

[campbell34]

Even Jesus never said he was God and if Jesus is God, it is a plot hole that disproves the whole thing. For starters if Jesus was God he would be immortial and we would have never been able to hurt or kill him also if true that Jesus is God then Jesus DIDN'T die for our sins since your can't sacrifice Jesus to God if God is Jesus so instead it means we killed God and that can't be good.You really need to actually read the bible if you want to debate the topic. It's obvious you know little or nothing about the bible. You are leaning on human reason to try and understand, and that will only lead you into more confusion.
You say Jesus never said He was God. Yet Jesus told His followers that if you have seen Me you have seen the Father. You say that if Jesus was God we would have never been able to kill Him. The only thing the world was able to kill was the human body that was Jesus human existance. His spirit which was part of His being remained intact. It was His human body that became the sacrifice not His spirit. And I'm still waiting for you to answer my last question which was. Did Jesus create the earth and all things or did Jehovah? Looking forward to your answer. Please don't make me ask this question a third time.

[campbell34]

So now the holy spirt is also God?

Right but Jesus didn't always exist. You have way to many problems pop up with the Trinity as: God minus Jesus (as God has yet to create Jesus) taking note God is not finite in any respect (else God would only be a god and not the God) then you add Jesus (Really don't matter here if he is finite or not) to the infinite power of God and you have a change in reality because as soon as you add, it becomes finite there was a change so now even if God was all powerful, God instantly was not all powerful before Jesus.

Also time is not a problem here, it makes no differnece if as soon as it happened it always been as it is a logic problem.
Jesus always existed, and this is pointed out in 1 John 5:7. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. God exist eternally as three persons but one God.
Even in the book of Genesis when God created man He said let us make man in our image, and after our likeness: He was addressing the two other persons of the trinity. That is why God did not say let Me or I make man in my image. Also Jesus eternal existance is spoken of in John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

[Psy Fox]

You really need to actually read the bible if you want to debate the topic.
I did a long time ago but stoped when I found far too many plot holes.


It's obvious you know little or nothing about the bible. You are leaning on human reason to try and understand, and that will only lead you into more confusion.
de omnibus dubitandum; everything must be doubted.

Now the idea is God is not a bad theory just no proof so it can stand up to doubt since there is no proof either way

yet there are parts of theology that can't stand up to logic thus much be tossed aside as false since God must be logical and follow logic.


You say Jesus never said He was God. Yet Jesus told His followers that if you have seen Me you have seen the Father.
Could have easily ment God is in each of us. Some say Jesus did learn Buddhism so it is a solid theory and would means Jesus was tring to say God is everywhere and everyone.

This is very logical as he was saying this to the Jewish community and was tring to reform Judaism so it makes more sence that Jesus was going over their heads instead Jesus really meaing he was the God that he should have known would piss them off and do more damage then good.


You say that if Jesus was God we would have never been able to kill Him. The only thing the world was able to kill was the human body that was Jesus human existance. His spirit which was part of His being remained intact. It was His human body that became the sacrifice not His spirit.
Yet all of our spirts are suppose to be immortial anyway the point is Jesus was mortial at least when he was alive he was also he didn't seem to have very much power to prove he was God.


And I'm still waiting for you to answer my last question which was. Did Jesus create the earth and all things or did Jehovah? Looking forward to your answer. Please don't make me ask this question a third time. I don't view the universe in such silly ways since I would think if God wanted to tell a story to us he would get much better writers also it would hit every culture around the world at the same time.

If you ask me either the Earth created it self or some God did.

[campbell34]

I did not write that abortion was "ok," but that comparing it with the holocaust is a very poor analogy. Twisting the word of others is not a very appealling trait. The apostle Paul wrote that he became all things to all people. By that, he did not mean that he ever compromised his beliefs, but rather, that he tried to communicate with people in a way that they could understand. Rather than drive people away through arrogance, he met people where they were. His sermon on Mars Hill is an example of this. I cannot imagine that very many people would want whatever spirit it is that you have. The spirt of arrogance does not have the ring of truth.I have no clue how you could possibly not compare the holocaust to what is happening with abortion in America today. This pratice was invented in Hell.To see little children laying in buckets and tossed in dumpsters is the most evil thing I have witinessed in my life. If you see these children and you see their blood on the ground and not be revolted by this you must be as cold as the doctors who murder these kids. Call me what ever you will, they call Christ those same names for bring the truth, they did not want to hear. This sick and evil society is no different. I'm not worried about driving people away, America has about 30 years left, if these people want the freedom to kill babies then they got it. The warning I'm giving out is the God they mock is going to destroy this nation. God is going to allow northern nations to rise up against us. And these nations will destroy all of America's cities in one hours time.

[Psy Fox]

I have no clue how you could possibly not compare the holocaust to what is happening with abortion in America today.
Because for the most part it is not racist, classist or sexist. Also they have yet to exist so not as bad as extermination of a race.

Go to a slaughter house and watch cows get killed. It is actually worse as the cows know their gona die.


I'm not worried about driving people away, America has about 30 years left, if these people want the freedom to kill babies then they got it. The warning I'm giving out is the God they mock is going to destroy this nation. God is going to allow northern nations to rise up against us. And these nations will destroy all of America's cities in one hours time. So I'm suppose to care about a God that is evil enough to kill countless people? Fuck that.

[duckandmiss]

Fear and ugliness and anger will destroy us all, and people of all faiths and all walks of life will perpetuate this. Jesus only asked us to follow his example, Buddha only told us there was a way, but god, (or time, or some alien race(haha)), gave us free will, and he will be the only judge. Ill find out when my time has come.

[campbell34]

I did a long time ago but stoped when I found far too many plot holes.

de omnibus dubitandum; everything must be doubted.

Now the idea is God is not a bad theory just no proof so it can stand up to doubt since there is no proof either way

yet there are parts of theology that can't stand up to logic thus much be tossed aside as false since God must be logical and follow logic.

Could have easily ment God is in each of us. Some say Jesus did learn Buddhism so it is a solid theory and would means Jesus was tring to say God is everywhere and everyone.

This is very logical as he was saying this to the Jewish community and was tring to reform Judaism so it makes more sence that Jesus was going over their heads instead Jesus really meaing he was the God that he should have known would piss them off and do more damage then good.

Yet all of our spirts are suppose to be immortial anyway the point is Jesus was mortial at least when he was alive he was also he didn't seem to have very much power to prove he was God.

I don't view the universe in such silly ways since I would think if God wanted to tell a story to us he would get much better writers also it would hit every culture around the world at the same time.

If you ask me either the Earth created it self or some God did.
Well people who often only look at plot holes are the same ones who ignore the bible prophecies. The bible is packed with evidence. Especially when you look at the pridictions of the future which involve Israel, the United States, Europe and Russia. Are whole future is recorded in the book. The Jews are not back in Israel by accident. It is part of God's bigger plan. If you are interested in the future and the evidence for the bible. I would suggest you read Ezekiel chapters 37, 38, 39. It's fascinating. And these chapters are just the tip of the iceberg. Believe me, people don't end up like me based on a lie. All this stuff about Jesus Christ, it's real, and you can't take that to the bank. He is a God of wonder.

[campbell34]

Fear and ugliness and anger will destroy us all, and people of all faiths and all walks of life will perpetuate this. Jesus only asked us to follow his example, Buddha only told us there was a way, but god, (or time, or some alien race(haha)), gave us free will, and he will be the only judge. Ill find out when my time has come.
Actually Jesus did not say only to follow His example. What Jesus did say is found in John14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Don't wait until your time comes or it will be to late. Jesus states that now is the day of salvation. Every man needs to be born again in Christ. When you ask Christ to forgive you of your sins He will, and when you ask Him to be the Lord of your life He will. It's your choice.

[redhatter]

America has about 30 years left, if these people want the freedom to kill babies then they got it. The warning I'm giving out is the God they mock is going to destroy this nation. God is going to allow northern nations to rise up against us. And these nations will destroy all of America's cities in one hours time.
I read the same bible you do, and have reached some of the same conclusions you have. But I believe that you have a responsiblity to delineate where biblical truths end and your own private interpretations (or revelations, if that's what they are) begin. Surely you know that they do not hold anything like the same weight! I read your website, and frankly, a lot of the details are nothing more than speculation, but they're presented as fact, and mixed together with scriptural details. That is sloppy exegesis, or, if you are really going to claim that the Holy Spirit revealed all that to you, you are just one more self-proclaimed prophet amongst thousands, all with differring stories to tell, and one thing is sure about that: all, or all but one, of them will be proven to be false prophets once even one of their predictions does not come to pass. Yes, abortion is wrong, yes, most Americans have turned from God, yes, Jesus is returning, but you are stating things as biblical fact that are no where stated in scripture! Do you see how this can cause problems? Do you believe that the Holy Spirit will inform current non-Christians who will become believers of the truth of your private revelations? Then what of all the other private revelations out there that differ? Or are you the only true prophet? You say that many all over the world are coming to the same conclusions? I will show you many who say almost the same things, but differ on the details. And you present those details as on par with scriptural truth! I hope you see what I'm getting at.

[JesusDiedForU]

I read the same bible you do, and have reached some of the same conclusions you have. But I believe that you have a responsiblity to delineate where biblical truths end and your own private interpretations (or revelations, if that's what they are) begin. Surely you know that they do not hold anything like the same weight! I read your website, and frankly, a lot of the details are nothing more than speculation, but they're presented as fact, and mixed together with scriptural details. That is sloppy exegesis, or, if you are really going to claim that the Holy Spirit revealed all that to you, you are just one more self-proclaimed prophet amongst thousands, all with differring stories to tell, and one thing is sure about that: all, or all but one, of them will be proven to be false prophets once even one of their predictions does not come to pass. Yes, abortion is wrong, yes, most Americans have turned from God, yes, Jesus is returning, but you are stating things as biblical fact that are no where stated in scripture! Do you see how this can cause problems? Do you believe that the Holy Spirit will inform current non-Christians who will become believers of the truth of your private revelations? Then what of all the other private revelations out there that differ? Or are you the only true prophet? You say that many all over the world are coming to the same conclusions? I will show you many who say almost the same things, but differ on the details. And you present those details as on par with scriptural truth! I hope you see what I'm getting at.
HERE IS A RESPECTABLE AUTHOR THAT BELIEVES THE SAME THING AS CAMPBELL.... CAMPBELL IS NOT JUST SOME CRACKPOT.....

R. A. Coombes

Biblical Prophecy has been an area of special studies and research by the author for over 30 years. It began in earnest during his years of study at the prestigious Moody Bible Institute of Chicago, Illinois; and later at Calvary Bible College of Kansas City. Afterwards, the author developed a dual career path of radio announcing as well as that of news reporter and journalist for various large and small market radio stations in the midwest. Among those he worked with in the radio industry was Rush Limbaugh, long before Rush became famous.

The author also pioneered a second career path in Sales/Marketing and also in Public Relations as a consultant for large and small clients. His most notable client was President Ronald Reagan during the 1984 re-election campaign.

Look what he has come up with... BABYLON IS AMERICA
http://www.americathebabylon.com/exerpts.shtml



Other theoligians with this view: Franklin Logsdon, David Wilkerson

This is not just Campbell's own idea...

[redhatter]

Dropping the name of an antichristian hatemonger such as Rush does not impress me of anyone's credentials, but I'll concede that Coombes at least makes an attempt at scholarly argument in his work. Campbell's work, on the other hand, is full of all kinds of details that may as well have been pulled out of a hat, yet they are thrown in together with scriptural details as if they are of the same authority. It doesn't matter whether you or I think that America is Babylon. I happen to agree that there is a close corellation. But there is a big distinction between what the bible says, and someone's private interpretation of it. Furthermore, not only does Campbell claim that, but if you read his site, you will see that he includes all kinds of specific details, with absolutely no evidence to back them up, as if they are straight out of scripture. This is a gross abuse, and that is why I'm bothering to challenge it publically.

[TheMagicalMushy]

All I will tell you is Russia and its allies. The rest is in my dads short 14 page book he wrote that I put onto a website:

http://r-campbell34.tripod.com/babylon


You are right but incredibly wrong, in the bible when it speaks of israelies it doesnt speak of jews, modern day jews are the babylonian (sp), israelies, isreal whatever is the reference to the caucasian race. There are a good amount of books and things published on this. I cant really go much further into it because 1) I dont want to sound like a racist 2) I dont know enough about it, I dont want to give you wrong information and look like a dip shit. I do suggest everyone to read that though, the guy has everything down accurately on whats going to happen. Anyone who says that what is written there is false is truly a dipshit. Im sorry.

[redhatter]

... in the bible when it speaks of israelies it doesnt speak of jews, modern day jews are the babylonian (sp), israelies, isreal whatever is the reference to the caucasian race. ... I dont know enough about it ... I do suggest everyone to read that though, the guy has everything down accurately on whats going to happen. Anyone who says that what is written there is false is truly a dipshit. Im sorry. First you wrote that you ''don't know enough about it,'' then conclude by writing that ''anyone who says that what is written there is false is truly a dipshit.'' Written where? You mentioned ''books and things published on this'' without specifying anything that anyone could read about, though you suggest doing just that. Well, the only sources I've ever seen that claim those things are racist. Could you give me a link to one that isn't? Not trying to be a pain, but would like to clear that up.

[TheMagicalMushy]

I am a big believer that all major religions and some ancient civilizations all binded togethor. Its hard to explain, most people that have researched christianity, the aztecs, and mayans will all see this similarity. In this cambells writing I have discovered this verse, "After two days He will revive us: in the third day He will raise us up, and we shall live in His sight" (Hosea 6:2). Now, it was either the mayans or aztecs, I forget which, that believed on the final days of the world that there would be a three day "thing". The first day we would find the god within ourselves, the second day we would become so spiritual that we would become telepathic even, I forget the third. You get the idea though.

Its amazing how people can deny the existance of such a thing as god when almost any intellectual person should be able to recognize these similarities between civilizations which had no contact with eachother from my knowledge. The I ching calendar, the aztecs and the mayan calendar all believed the world would end on 2012. Its amazing how these civlizations all believed the same thing. Its hard for me to explain things because I have a bad memory and can only remember bits and peices of things I read. To me, my beliefs, are that the world will end in 2012 and christianity is the chosen religion.

Ugh so confusing.

Please dont flame me for putting togethor such a bad post, im just trying to get my thoughts out there somehow, put some input, I dont have all the answers to what I believe, sources, etc. Everything ive posted on this thread probably looks moronic because it isnt put togethor well.

Also, Im not positive if the mayans and aztecs had contact between eachother, I know they were both located basicly right beside eachother but were they different periods of time?

[TheMagicalMushy]

First you wrote that you ''don't know enough about it,'' then conclude by writing that ''anyone who says that what is written there is false is truly a dipshit.'' Written where? You mentioned ''books and things published on this'' without specifying anything that anyone could read about, though you suggest doing just that. Well, the only sources I've ever seen that claim those things are racist. Could you give me a link to one that isn't? Not trying to be a pain, but would like to clear that up.

I dont know enough about it to write somthing that would be easily understandable, I dont have sources, I dont write down everything I read, I should start. I just read and remember what I read not sources.

What cambell was written. Anyone who completely writes it off is a dipshit in my eyes.

I dont have any sources, ive just read bits and peices here and there, im sorry, im sure with a google search you could uncover somthing. Even if they are racist, it doesnt make it not true. Im probably going to get a lot of neg rev for these posts and labeled as a racist. Im not a racist, I have beliefs though. I wouldnt ever treat someone of the non caucasian race any different than a caucasian.

You arent being a pain, I understand where you are coming from. Im not trying to be a pain either, its hard for a 14 year old to put his thoughts down without looking like a moron.

[TheMagicalMushy]

Ok, ive gotten a source on the chosen race, israel, caucasian stuff. Its a book called "the reformation of israel" by WM.Norman Saxon. Started reading it now :). My grandfather gave me the book.

[redhatter]

I do appreciate your responses, and no, I don't think you're a racist. I think you are a spiritual enquirer, who has already read a lot about these things, and thought about them as well. Not remembering where you read certain things is perfectly understandable! Joseph Campbell was a fascinating man who was a real pioneer in many ways; I've seen him interviewed by Bill Moyers, someone I have a whole lot of respect for, on PBS. I agree that there are patterns in history and in spiritual practice by people in different parts of the world that cannot be explained through rational means. Carl Jung wrote a lot about this.

I do take issue with British Israelism and ''Christian'' Identity, and would just ask you to examine their claims critically. Please at least have a look at this page:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5951/BI.html

This more difficult reading specifically mentions Norman Saxon, but may be more than you want to try to digest:
http://www.biblicalexaminer.org/ii-intro.htm
http://www.biblicalexaminer.org/ii-01.htm

All I ask is that you question the underlying motive behind the beliefs put forth by those movements. In recent years, they have become very closely identified with racist skinheads.

[duckandmiss]

Actually Jesus did not say only to follow His example. What Jesus did say is found in John14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Don't wait until your time comes or it will be to late. Jesus states that now is the day of salvation. Every man needs to be born again in Christ. When you ask Christ to forgive you of your sins He will, and when you ask Him to be the Lord of your life He will. It's your choice.

So once again, instead of beliveing we should follow his example, you belive that as long as its Jesus himself that I accept into my life Ill be alright, So I can single handedly murder 6 million people, posion water supplies and cut out the tongues of my enemy, but as long as before I die I accept Jesus into my heart and ask him to forgive my sins. Does that seem like it is what he wanted?
Better yet, could I be a society created monster who spouts out his personal truth, and ruins peoples lives and self confidence with words, treating all others unlike he himself would ever be treated, denouncing others beliefs because he is the superior one? But as long as I accept Jesus and ask him to forgive me It'll be alright?
How do I know that the zealots of this world are not just the Devil in disguise trying to lure me astray with hate?

[campbell34]

I read the same bible you do, and have reached some of the same conclusions you have. But I believe that you have a responsiblity to delineate where biblical truths end and your own private interpretations (or revelations, if that's what they are) begin. Surely you know that they do not hold anything like the same weight! I read your website, and frankly, a lot of the details are nothing more than speculation, but they're presented as fact, and mixed together with scriptural details. That is sloppy exegesis, or, if you are really going to claim that the Holy Spirit revealed all that to you, you are just one more self-proclaimed prophet amongst thousands, all with differring stories to tell, and one thing is sure about that: all, or all but one, of them will be proven to be false prophets once even one of their predictions does not come to pass. Yes, abortion is wrong, yes, most Americans have turned from God, yes, Jesus is returning, but you are stating things as biblical fact that are no where stated in scripture! Do you see how this can cause problems? Do you believe that the Holy Spirit will inform current non-Christians who will become believers of the truth of your private revelations? Then what of all the other private revelations out there that differ? Or are you the only true prophet? You say that many all over the world are coming to the same conclusions? I will show you many who say almost the same things, but differ on the details. And you present those details as on par with scriptural truth! I hope you see what I'm getting at.The bible clearly states we will be raised up on the third day. The third day will begin in 30 years. Also the bible states that the generation that see Israel become a nation once again will not pass away until all end prophecies are fullfilled. In 30 years that generation will be 86 years old. I can't speak for the other private revelations. Only my own. And I find other Christian now coming forward with the very things I am now telling you.

[redhatter]

The bible clearly states we will be raised up on the third day. The third day will begin in 30 years. ...
Oh brother. There's just no use trying to discourse with someone completely trapped in their own self-referential universe.

[campbell34]

Dropping the name of an antichristian hatemonger such as Rush does not impress me of anyone's credentials, but I'll concede that Coombes at least makes an attempt at scholarly argument in his work. Campbell's work, on the other hand, is full of all kinds of details that may as well have been pulled out of a hat, yet they are thrown in together with scriptural details as if they are of the same authority. It doesn't matter whether you or I think that America is Babylon. I happen to agree that there is a close corellation. But there is a big distinction between what the bible says, and someone's private interpretation of it. Furthermore, not only does Campbell claim that, but if you read his site, you will see that he includes all kinds of specific details, with absolutely no evidence to back them up, as if they are straight out of scripture. This is a gross abuse, and that is why I'm bothering to challenge it publically.
Please tell me what details you are speaking of, and the lack of evidence that concerns you. If you do a little research, you will find that I and a number of other Christians are say the same thing. If you type in America and Babylon in a search engine you will find numerous sites that are saying that America is Babylon.

[campbell34]

So once again, instead of beliveing we should follow his example, you belive that as long as its Jesus himself that I accept into my life Ill be alright, So I can single handedly murder 6 million people, posion water supplies and cut out the tongues of my enemy, but as long as before I die I accept Jesus into my heart and ask him to forgive my sins. Does that seem like it is what he wanted?
Better yet, could I be a society created monster who spouts out his personal truth, and ruins peoples lives and self confidence with words, treating all others unlike he himself would ever be treated, denouncing others beliefs because he is the superior one? But as long as I accept Jesus and ask him to forgive me It'll be alright?
How do I know that the zealots of this world are not just the Devil in disguise trying to lure me astray with hate?
If you took the time to read my post, I stated that Jesus said not only to follow His example, but we also had to be BORN AGAIN. How did you think killing 6 million people had anything to do with my post?

[redhatter]

Please understand that it's not your advancement of the theory that America = Babylon that I find so disturbing. Quite the contrary, as I wrote earlier, I find that theory to be quite plausible. It is the advancement of the theory in one sentence, with or without adequate supporting evidence to make it a plausible theory,followed by the usage of that theory as if it now has the stature of scriptural fact. Now, I'm going to lose some non-Christians here, who don't believe that scripture is fact, but I don't mind - I'm willing to clarify this point by saying that I think scripture is fact precisely because of my faith - I don't claim scripture is fact in the same way as the pythagorean theorem, say, is fact. But I digress.

What is equally troubling is how you take one passage of scriputure, and spin an entire doctrinal point out of it, in a way that does not have the consensus of the historical church behind it. Your interpretation of Hosea 6.2 is plausible, but you are elevating it to a near scriptural authority with no real evidence to back it up! Do you not believe that scripture ought to interpret scripture, or that a Christian ought to at least take into account the precedents set by previous generations of Christians? They were inspired by the Holy Spirit. It is too easy to innovate scriptural interpretation based on what seem to be the evidence of current events. Yes, we need to interpret the signs of the times, and for that reason, based on all the available evidence, it does seem that Christ's return may be near. But there are so many ''doctrines'' of men these days, that have only threads of scripture supporting them, not strong rope. One of these is the ''doctrine'' that the Lord will return within one generation of the re-establishment of the state of Israel. That may or may not be true, and it is fine to give the reasons why you believe it, but it is not gospel.

[campbell34]

Oh brother. There's just no use trying to discourse with someone completely trapped in their own self-referential universe.
Sorry but it is a universe that is shared by a growing number of Christians, and this knoweledge has come by way of the scriptures, and by independent visions from other Christians. I came to this understanding after asking God to show me the future. About a year later He did.

[BlackGuardXIII]

Sorry but it is a universe that is shared by a growing number of Christians, and this knoweledge has come by way of the scriptures, and by independent visions from other Christians. I came to this understanding after asking God to show me the future. About a year later He did.
I am willing to let you believe the interpretations you and your buddies think are good ones. you have your reasons, I can't see what you see, I've not lived your life, and experienced what you have, so I cannot judge your conclusions. You judge mine though. I say you are right, and although I differ in opinion, I am too. We are in different places, different realities, so why can we not have different truths?
I read the Bible three times,
I concluded Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married, and have the bible verses to show why.
I concluded that the most beloved disciple, John, is a woman, and have verses that made me conclude that.
I interpreted much more that is contrary to most views, but will stop there.
You need not agree with me. It matters not to me if you do or not.
What does matter, though very little, is that I hope you can respect me enough as a spiritual human being, and equal, to not say I am wrong.
If you do, it only tells me you vainly feel you are better than me. If you want to believe that, okay, but I say you are no more spiritual, correct, or righteous than me. and no less. I will make a prediction....you will say I am wrong about this too, but still I will accept your beliefs, cuz my belief is not dependent on anyone elses approval.

[campbell34]

Please understand that it's not your advancement of the theory that America = Babylon that I find so disturbing. Quite the contrary, as I wrote earlier, I find that theory to be quite plausible. It is the advancement of the theory in one sentence, with or without adequate supporting evidence to make it a plausible theory,followed by the usage of that theory as if it now has the stature of scriptural fact. Now, I'm going to lose some non-Christians here, who don't believe that scripture is fact, but I don't mind - I'm willing to clarify this point by saying that I think scripture is fact precisely because of my faith - I don't claim scripture is fact in the same way as the pythagorean theorem, say, is fact. But I digress.

What is equally troubling is how you take one passage of scriputure, and spin an entire doctrinal point out of it, in a way that does not have the consensus of the historical church behind it. Your interpretation of Hosea 6.2 is plausible, but you are elevating it to a near scriptural authority with no real evidence to back it up! Do you not believe that scripture ought to interpret scripture, or that a Christian ought to at least take into account the precedents set by previous generations of Christians? They were inspired by the Holy Spirit. It is too easy to innovate scriptural interpretation based on what seem to be the evidence of current events. Yes, we need to interpret the signs of the times, and for that reason, based on all the available evidence, it does seem that Christ's return may be near. But there are so many ''doctrines'' of men these days, that have only threads of scripture supporting them, not strong rope. One of these is the ''doctrine'' that the Lord will return within one generation of the re-establishment of the state of Israel. That may or may not be true, and it is fine to give the reasons why you believe it, but it is not gospel.
You would say that I take one passage of scripture and spin an entire doctrine from it. Well that statement is nor entirely true. Of the verse in question I have taken two points of scripture. One coming from the Old Testament an the other from the New Testament. On this one topic there is not an abundance of evidence, yet I find no reason to reject what the scriptures are saying here because it is not repeated numerous times. Also useing church tradition, is often the way of error, taking into consideration what Jesus has told us about the traditions of men. The bible also tells us that it is the Holy Spirit that is our teacher. And yes there are many doctrines of men these days, and that is why I trust that small still voice inside of me. What I am finding is that other Christians who also listen to that voice are in agreement with what I have heard. You would say what I believe may or may not be true, but then dogmatically state what I have said is not Gospel. Which only proves, you must be elevating your unbelief of my understanding to scriptural authority. Two can play that game. I was in the church for years, and what I find disturbing is how sin can be rampant in the church and those in charge will say nothing. Yet as soon as man talks about God showing him something, those in charge will be the first one's to attack him. Because they will not have their authority questioned. The spirit of the pharisee is still alive today.

[campbell34]

I am willing to let you believe the interpretations you and your buddies think are good ones. you have your reasons, I can't see what you see, I've not lived your life, and experienced what you have, so I cannot judge your conclusions. You judge mine though. I say you are right, and although I differ in opinion, I am too. We are in different places, different realities, so why can we not have different truths?
I read the Bible three times,
I concluded Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married, and have the bible verses to show why.
I concluded that the most beloved disciple, John, is a woman, and have verses that made me conclude that.
I interpreted much more that is contrary to most views, but will stop there.
You need not agree with me. It matters not to me if you do or not.
What does matter, though very little, is that I hope you can respect me enough as a spiritual human being, and equal, to not say I am wrong.
If you do, it only tells me you vainly feel you are better than me. If you want to believe that, okay, but I say you are no more spiritual, correct, or righteous than me. and no less. I will make a prediction....you will say I am wrong about this too, but still I will accept your beliefs, cuz my belief is not dependent on anyone elses approval.
Actually your beliefs are dependent on God's approval. And those who say truth need only be true in their own eyes, are headed for disaster. And when you say you accept my beliefs, what you are really saying, is you accept them for me not for you. Actually your thinking is so bizarre. I question who I am really speaking to? The bible states their are none that are righteous, no not even one. This was never about who was righteous, but rather who was saved. And I can tell you, no one will enter heaven without the blood of Christ.

[redhatter]

Are the scriptures in any way insufficient, that they need to be added to in any way for people to hear and understand the gospel?

[redhatter]

I read the Bible three times,
I concluded Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married, and have the bible verses to show why.
I concluded that the most beloved disciple, John, is a woman, and have verses that made me conclude that.

Just wondering which passages in the bible led you to conclude those things, since most people who believe the former these days got the idea from The DaVinci Code, not from reading the new testament. The second idea is a new one to me. I'll just go ahead and say it, and that is that I don't think a straightforward reading of scripture yields either of those ideas. There is plenty of evidence about what the early eyewitnesses claimed, not only in the gospels but also in the early church writings. ''Gnostic'' gospels, which are the primary source for those kinds of beliefs, were written much later, after all the eyewitnesses had died and could no longer refute their errors. Scholars agree that they were written later. Personally, even if I did find an idea that came along later to be more appealing, I'd still have to go with what eyewitnesses wrote, if I wanted to get as close to the truth as possible.

[campbell34]

Are the scriptures in any way insufficient, that they need to be added to in any way for people to hear and understand the gospel?
If they seek to understand the scriptures, God will give them that understanding. The problem is, most people do not strive and ask God in prayer to open up the words of His book. The God of the bible states that we should search His word for the treasures within. Most donot. There is so much there, but this worlds attention is elsewhere.

[redhatter]

If they seek to understand the scriptures, God will give them that understanding. The problem is, most people do not strive and ask God in prayer to open up the words of His book. The God of the bible states that we should search His word for the treasures within. Most donot. There is so much there, but this worlds attention is elsewhere.
Please, I do not want to be sarcastic, but the only logical thing to ask at this point is, if people cannot be bothered to read the scriptures, it is then your innovation that is going to grab their attention? Since the bible does not speak of the return of Christ in the early 21st century, you think you will get peoples' attention by promoting that belief and putting an imminent date on it's occurrance?

No, rather than get people interested in reading the bible, the only things that succeeds in doing is persuading people that there is no unanimity about the fundamentals among Christians, and encouraging them to concoct private interpretations of their own. Why read the bible when you can make it up? These abberations are the tragic legacy of the (second) breakup of the Church in the 16th century. Now, even ''Christians'' believe what is right in their own eyes.

[campbell34]

Please, I do not want to be sarcastic, but the only logical thing to ask at this point is, if people cannot be bothered to read the scriptures, it is then your innovation that is going to grab their attention? Since the bible does not speak of the return of Christ in the early 21st century, you think you will get peoples' attention by promoting that belief and putting an imminent date on it's occurrance?

No, rather than get people interested in reading the bible, the only things that succeeds in doing is persuading people that there is no unanimity about the fundamentals among Christians, and encouraging them to concoct private interpretations of their own. Why read the bible when you can make it up? These abberations are the tragic legacy of the (second) breakup of the Church in the 16th century. Now, even ''Christians'' believe what is right in their own eyes.
Well if what you are saying was true, there must be a number of us Christians who's minds are linked together, because many of us are saying the same thing based on what we have either read in the bible or have seen in visions. Even after I understood what I believed, I discovered other Christians telling the same story. These were Christians I never met and yet their stories and their writings match mine. Do you think are stories would agree if we were all making these things up? One Christian wrote that in a vision, he saw missiles coming out of the water and they were coming from the oceans that surround America. What is of interest here is that in 1950 when he had this vision, there were no missile carring submarines. Yet He saw this. He stated these missiles were headed for America. He also said he saw what looked like interceptor missiles trying to knock down the one's coming from the water but they failed. His vision agrees with my story, and there are many other Christians telling the same story. We are not making this up, we are telling you the truth of what we know.

[campbell34]

Because for the most part it is not racist, classist or sexist. Also they have yet to exist so not as bad as extermination of a race.

Go to a slaughter house and watch cows get killed. It is actually worse as the cows know their gona die.

So I'm suppose to care about a God that is evil enough to kill countless people? Fuck that.
Only God has the right to take a human life, you donot. A simple fact you may never understand. The countless people that God will judge, are the one's who hate Him, and hate His creation. American's shows their contempt for God by killing over a million children a year by abortion, and then throw these children back into God's face. God is not evil, people who support and pratice this are. These people need Christ in their lives, not abortion.

[Psy Fox]

Well if what you are saying was true, there must be a number of us Christians who's minds are linked together, because many of us are saying the same thing based on what we have either read in the bible or have seen in visions. Even after I understood what I believed, I discovered other Christians telling the same story. These were Christians I never met and yet their stories and their writings match mine. Do you think are stories would agree if we were all making these things up? One Christian wrote that in a vision, he saw missiles coming out of the water and they were coming from the oceans that surround America. What is of interest here is that in 1950 when he had this vision, there were no missile carring submarines. Yet He saw this. He stated these missiles were headed for America. He also said he saw what looked like interceptor missiles trying to knock down the one's coming from the water but they failed. His vision agrees with my story, and there are many other Christians telling the same story. We are not making this up, we are telling you the truth of what we know. Big deal firing missles from subs were already in sci-fi in the 50's. Also there will never be interceptor missles in our life times, they can't even hit a single target without cheating, so odds are the US will scrap the MDS system after they spend trillions of dollars and still can't a single prototype to work. Not to mention if fired from submarines even if the US had working MDS they would never launch as that close since the computers will never be able to figure out it is a missle attack in time let alone calculate a intercept projectory and fire interceptor missles. Plus with that many targets currently the computers the US use, just overload and shutdown.

The vision is bunk as MDS is bad science fiction next you'll start talking about junk like teleporters.

Only God has the right to take a human life, you do not. A simple fact you may never understand. The countless people that God will judge, are the one's who hate Him, and hate His creation. American's shows their contempt for God by killing over a million children a year by abortion, and then throw these children back into God's face. God is not evil, people who support and pratice this are. These people need Christ in their lives, not abortion.
Yhea that is what we need, blind faith as we doom our species. Those unborn children would need clean water and food that is disappearing fast. You want WWIII over a few million children? The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

We are overpopulated and the Earths support systems are crumbling under our weight so I may be wrong but I don't think putting more people on Earth would is a good idea.

[campbell34]

Big deal firing missles from subs were already in sci-fi in the 50's. Also there will never be interceptor missles in our life times, they can't even hit a single target without cheating, so odds are the US will scrap the MDS system after they spend trillions of dollars and still can't a single prototype to work. Not to mention if fired from submarines even if the US had working MDS they would never launch as that close since the computers will never be able to figure out it is a missle attack in time let alone calculate a intercept projectory and fire interceptor missles. Plus with that many targets currently the computers the US use, just overload and shutdown.

The vision is bunk as MDS is bad science fiction next you'll start talking about junk like teleporters.

Yhea that is what we need, blind faith as we doom our species. Those unborn children would need clean water and food that is disappearing fast. You want WWIII over a few million children? The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

We are overpopulated and the Earths support systems are crumbling under our weight so I may be wrong but I don't think putting more people on Earth would is a good idea.
Well Israel already has a MDS system called the Arrow that works very well. And America is working at full speed to deploy some of our interceptor missiles in less then 10 years. America does not have an overpopulation problem, we do have an over weight problem. I don't believe in blind faith. That is why I believe in the bible. You see I actually took the time to read this book, and what I have found is that God is going to destroy our nation in about 30 years. It is because of the abudance of evil in America. This one event will fulfill many of the end time prophecies that most people ignore. The bible states that before we are destroyed the Jews would be back in Israel, and they would control Jerusalem. Also the bible states at that time the East Gate that leads to the temple mount would be sealed up. It was sealed 400 years ago and remains that way today. The bible states that no man will walk through the gate but Jesus Christ and it will remained sealed until He returns. The Moslems found out about the prophecy and tried to break through the gate to destroy the prophecy. They could not. On the very day they tried back in 1917 the British took control of Jerusalem. Then they tried again to do it in 1967, this time it was the Jews that entered the city and the Moslems had to run again. The bible also states that America, and all her cities will burn and that our nation will be destroyed in one hours time. The prophecies of the bible cannot fail, but those who reject it's truth will die in their sins.

[Psy Fox]

Well Israel already has a MDS system called the Arrow that works very well.
Wrong. Israel had the Arrow but with a 0% hit rate (out of every Arrow fired in the first Gulf War only one destroyed its target) they scraped the Arrow

And America is working at full speed to deploy some of our interceptor missiles in less then 10 years.
The US can't even get the Arrow to work not only that but the recent MDS has a even worse success rate then the Arrow. Even with pre-calulating the projectory of the target before the test and putting a homing single in the target they can't get it to work half the time.

MDS screams vapourware if you had the slightest bit of technical knowledge would see the MDS as impossible.


America does not have an overpopulation problem, we do have an over weight problem.
Wrong. Over weight people count for a small percentage of the total population of 6 billion. Also we do have a overpopulation, that be fruitful and multiply was a stupid idea. If you don't belive we are overpopulated you are blind just fucking look, the Earth is dying under our weight (Humans has infested the planet) and even we went to a Illich society we would have to cut the global population by at least half.

Even with abortion, disease,violence, famine,ect we can't even level off population growth meaning the biggest crisis is over population. I think God gets the message that when we abort we mean no disrespect but we have no vacancy.

Of course abortion only delys a complete crash of Earths biosystem, we need to do more. We need to make sure there is enough contraception for everyone, educate on forms of sexual plesure that doesn't lead to babies including self pleasure also not to discourage homosexuality.



I don't believe in blind faith. That is why I believe in the bible. You see I actually took the time to read this book, and what I have found is that God is going to destroy our nation in about 30 years. It is because of the abudance of evil in America.
If God destroys anything he would cross over to the darkside. Even God can't get rid of evil with a iron fist as it would lead to a dead world with nothing left.

Do you follow God because you belive in what God is or because you fear God? If God is evil enough to raise a finger in anger, sweet non-existance will come for me and I will embrace it.

[campbell34]

Wrong. Israel had the Arrow but with a 0% hit rate (out of every Arrow fired in the first Gulf War only one destroyed its target) they scraped the Arrow
The US can't even get the Arrow to work not only that but the recent MDS has a even worse success rate then the Arrow. Even with pre-calulating the projectory of the target before the test and putting a homing single in the target they can't get it to work half the time.

MDS screams vapourware if you had the slightest bit of technical knowledge would see the MDS as impossible.

Wrong. Over weight people count for a small percentage of the total population of 6 billion. Also we do have a overpopulation, that be fruitful and multiply was a stupid idea. If you don't belive we are overpopulated you are blind just fucking look, the Earth is dying under our weight (Humans has infested the planet) and even we went to a Illich society we would have to cut the global population by at least half.

Even with abortion, disease,violence, famine,ect we can't even level off population growth meaning the biggest crisis is over population. I think God gets the message that when we abort we mean no disrespect but we have no vacancy.

Of course abortion only delys a complete crash of Earths biosystem, we need to do more. We need to make sure there is enough contraception for everyone, educate on forms of sexual plesure that doesn't lead to babies including self pleasure also not to discourage homosexuality.


If God destroys anything he would cross over to the darkside. Even God can't get rid of evil with a iron fist as it would lead to a dead world with nothing left.

Do you follow God because you belive in what God is or because you fear God? If God is evil enough to raise a finger in anger, sweet non-existance will come for me and I will embrace it.
Monday, October 4, 2004

MISSILE DEFENSE MAY SOON BE READY

BY JOHN J. LUMPKIN
Associated Press

WASHINGTON-THE military is in the final stages of readying its national ballistic missile defense system, with officials predicting it will be activated before year's end. But several questions remain, including how well the experimental missile interceptors work.
The Pentagon maintains that any defense against intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) is better than none. Critics contend the Bush administration is vastly overselling an expensive, unproven defense system.

Well it appears you were wrong on the MDS, it is going to be deployed and according to the bible and visions from other Christians the defense system will fail, when it is needed. The bible again was right and you are wrong. Remember you said we were not going to have one. You must go through life ignoring everything that is happening around you, and think because you say it on line your views are true. With Bush in the White House for 4 more years this system will be activated.
During the gulf war are missiles did hit the scuds a number of times but they did not destroy the war heads which did blow up when they hit the ground.

And as far as killing the unborn, God gets the message alright. Abortion is another way of giving God the finger, which American's do a lot.

Those who reject God's truth will not die and go to sweet non existance, but rather they will enter the relm of fire. Which is eternal flames prepared for the Devil and those who support him.

It is not God who has imbraced the dark side. God knows how to save His people, and He has prepared the host of heven to remove His people before the day of vengence is visited on the earth. Those who love murder will live in an earth of murders. What horror is in store for those who mock God.

[campbell34]

Wrong. Israel had the Arrow but with a 0% hit rate (out of every Arrow fired in the first Gulf War only one destroyed its target) they scraped the Arrow
The US can't even get the Arrow to work not only that but the recent MDS has a even worse success rate then the Arrow. Even with pre-calulating the projectory of the target before the test and putting a homing single in the target they can't get it to work half the time.

MDS screams vapourware if you had the slightest bit of technical knowledge would see the MDS as impossible.

Wrong. Over weight people count for a small percentage of the total population of 6 billion. Also we do have a overpopulation, that be fruitful and multiply was a stupid idea. If you don't belive we are overpopulated you are blind just fucking look, the Earth is dying under our weight (Humans has infested the planet) and even we went to a Illich society we would have to cut the global population by at least half.

Even with abortion, disease,violence, famine,ect we can't even level off population growth meaning the biggest crisis is over population. I think God gets the message that when we abort we mean no disrespect but we have no vacancy.

Of course abortion only delys a complete crash of Earths biosystem, we need to do more. We need to make sure there is enough contraception for everyone, educate on forms of sexual plesure that doesn't lead to babies including self pleasure also not to discourage homosexuality.


If God destroys anything he would cross over to the darkside. Even God can't get rid of evil with a iron fist as it would lead to a dead world with nothing left.

Do you follow God because you belive in what God is or because you fear God? If God is evil enough to raise a finger in anger, sweet non-existance will come for me and I will embrace it.
The Gulf War, that is ancient history.
ARROW MISSILE- Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So you say they scraped the Arrow.

On July 29, 2004 Israel and the USA carried out joint experiment in the USA, in which the Arrow was launched against a real Scud missile. The experiment was a success, as the Arrow destroyed the Scud with a direct hit.

Following the successful trial the Israeli Minister of Defense, Shaul Mofaz said,

"this is a central plank of Israel's defense ability. The success of the test is further proof of the technological superiority of Israeli Defense Industries"

The system has a high success rate and Israel plans to deploy the system at several locations to provide complete protection for the state. Procedures are reportedly in place to launch a second Arrow Interceptor should the first miss and to then launch one of the latest Patriot missiles should both fail.

Doesen't look like they scraped the Arrow to me.

I'm sorry to say this, but you really need to do your homework. It appears to me you know nothing about what's going on in the world. Yet, you get on this post and make these broad statements without one ounce of fact to back up your statements.

[Psy Fox]

Monday, October 4, 2004

MISSILE DEFENSE MAY SOON BE READY

BY JOHN J. LUMPKIN
Associated Press

WASHINGTON-THE military is in the final stages of readying its national ballistic missile defense system, with officials predicting it will be activated before year's end. But several questions remain, including how well the experimental missile interceptors work.
The Pentagon maintains that any defense against intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) is better than none. Critics contend the Bush administration is vastly overselling an expensive, unproven defense system.

Well it appears you were wrong on the MDS, it is going to be deployed and according to the bible and visions from other Christians the defense system will fail, when it is needed. The bible again was right and you are wrong. Remember you said we were not going to have one.
We won't, it is just a scam for the Bush admin to line the pockets of their freinds.

You must go through life ignoring everything that is happening around you, and think because you say it on line your views are true. With Bush in the White House for 4 more years this system will be activated.
There is nothing to activate, it a hoax like Regans starwars....Russian spys have already found that out which why Russia is no longer is aginst the MDS.




During the gulf war are missiles did hit the scuds a number of times but they did not destroy the war heads which did blow up when they hit the ground.
Wrong they came close and the computer blew them up to terminate their flight path so the armed warhead would not fall back to Earth the fact that some did some damage to scuds was a side effects.


And as far as killing the unborn, God gets the message alright. Abortion is another way of giving God the finger, which American's do a lot.
We have no space. There is no vacany on Earth. All because of that all be fruitful and multiplus so if God said it, God is partly to blame.

Those who reject God's truth will not die and go to sweet non existance, but rather they will enter the relm of fire. Which is eternal flames prepared for the Devil and those who support him.
Your just being silly, like God is going to be more evil the humanity. Torturing good people that just don't agree with him that would make God as bad as Stalin.

It is not God who has imbraced the dark side. God knows how to save His people, and He has prepared the host of heven to remove His people before the day of vengence is visited on the earth. Those who love murder will live in an earth of murders. What horror is in store for those who mock God. If God has that big of ego he is unenlightened jerk with too much power.

You selling God like those of Greek myth, full of human flaws.

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We won't, it is just a scam for the Bush admin to line the pockets of their freinds.
There is nothing to activate, it a hoax like Regans starwars....Russian spys have already found that out which why Russia is no longer is aginst the MDS.



Wrong they came close and the computer blew them up to terminate their flight path so the armed warhead would not fall back to Earth the fact that some did some damage to scuds was a side effects.

We have no space. There is no vacany on Earth. All because of that all be fruitful and multiplus so if God said it, God is partly to blame.
Your just being silly, like God is going to be more evil the humanity. Torturing good people that just don't agree with him that would make God as bad as Stalin.
If God has that big of ego he is unenlightened jerk with too much power.

You selling God like those of Greek myth, full of human flaws.
So what you are telling me is when Iraq was shooting scuds into Israel. Iraq blew up their own misiles to terminate their flight path. And why would they do that? And russia knows are anti missiles system will not work so they are building one now that would destroy ours. And why would they do that? And if they are not against