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oldwolf
10-20-2007, 07:57 PM
Giving Your Power Away
And you know, from a young age we strive to gather power to ourselfs. It is not till we have personal experiences and breakthroughs, that we find and perceive that we already had/have, innate is each, all the power that we could ever be needing.
So often we put the evil out there ... the blame ... the excuse.
But in reality it hinges on us ... how we are willing to see it ... how we are willing to Change ... how truthful we are willing to Be.
So it is with fear as well ... for when we come to realize that no one can take our power unless we give it to them ,,, the fear dwindles .... and as we practice this empowerment of Self - the art of being truthful and respectful and of empowering the Self - fear comes more and more to lose it's power over us and slowly we realize that anything has only the power over us we give it.
Rituals are handed down as a means of focusing for those who have not remembered how. They are enablers; which as we Grow we must find ever a Way to stop the enablement from outside, and empower from within. Even when we make our own rituals instead of using those from without as a crutch to build a thought structure to focus and keep us safe, we must wean ourselfs from them and ever simplify...and the simplest of all is that we have the power.....you see we Are the power. we are our creators of each and every part of our being and surroundings.
This does not come all at once, but as we work and strive to focus and be our Higher Selfs; in charge of our reactions, not having them have charge over us; in charge of our perceptions, coloring them from within and opening ever the More .... for have you not heard ... Be Still and Know I Am God .... and so it is for each and every one of us ... in humility, and honoring all our Connections, ever Reverently Thankful; we find that we, each one individually, have the Power.
And as ever ...Blessings Be along the Way ... for along the Way we Learn and Grow and Become ever More as we step into the Beyond.
And to you all - my Connections
Namaste - my Spirit Bows to your Spirit
shameless_heifer
10-26-2007, 02:15 PM
"Be Still and Know I Am God" where did you read that and who said it.. and knowing where and who, is that not an outside force.. I am confused. Your statement is: You created yourself and all that is around you, yourself empowerment. Then you quote bible teachings.. from The Supream Creator.. so, who is telling us to be still.. is it God, and if so, then we are not the creators of the energy we are made from. We have only manifested ourselves into the Human Experience.. but where, ulltimately did our original energy force originate from if not from an ultimate supply source.. And what of The Divine, is there no Divine, Then what of Love, Mercy and Compassion. Where does the truth lay and which truth is it.
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oldwolf
10-26-2007, 05:53 PM
Shameless,
You preach separation .....I live in Connection - as do all, and that Connection Is One to All and All to One...
There are many sources that give forth this information....I am sure that you have read it elsewhere before.
Compassion does not seek to take away the lessons another chooses to bring on themself....nor does it stand in the way.
There are many Paths .... you choose your own
Have at it
Namaste
sylvanlightning
10-29-2007, 12:43 AM
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Rock on!
shameless_heifer
10-29-2007, 02:27 PM
I understand connectedness and we are all part of it.. but what I am trying to understand is, if everything is made up of the same energy, if it is the same energy and if we create and draw from each other/orselves, do we draw from the universe as well, if it is all the same then there is no seperation.? It does not address this in the books and that is why I ask. I have not yet found anyone that can answer this.. to complete the lesson that is being learned/taught. Not rying to prove or disprove anything, just trying to find the truth in its entirety.
Bright Blessings
sh
oldwolf
10-29-2007, 05:46 PM
Sometimes I have to bless those time back when....I always went off alone with pschodelics, and although it's changed and grown; morphed into a difference that I love , still asking and getting the answer was important for me .
So I asked to try to understand.... (I had just come out of self progamming lessons and opening called Silva Mind Control...too bad it's not still around....though any system depends much on those who pass it on, this was looking at the whole that most See mystically, through science ....met the person who initiated it (Hose Silva) and having sat with others of higher consciousness recognized the same in him) ....any way back to the story....had white microdot and did 2 to really go; after i put a cassette tape together to take me down deep and ask some questions ....I was 26 and starting to redesign my Self ...yah remember when....waited took 2 more, then after more waiting, repeated and again and again....finally started seeing neon tubes flashing in my vision and thought all right ! ....turned the tape on and off i went....Any way...At one point I found myself with the realisation that we were the external sensory extensions of "God".
Many years go by and now ego is a friend who helps maintain the separation so neceaary to Change. For if we Exist only in the One from which we all come, everything is in gestalt ...all that was IS and changes to come are also here,,,,there is no process, nor separate consiousness. So we come into being to experience ....to Learn and Grow. We still Can and as we come more into Wholeness (in which I have along long way to go) Do have all that Is the One present, combined with the All that is but a projection of the One... We Are indeed God ....but only in the stillness in which we do not compare, judge, talk inside ....a place that is rarely found in todays culture. We Are All that Is .....existence does not exist in separation but needs that illusion if we are to experience and go through the process of Growing....Change.
But each experiencer must be honored, for ahh the variety which makes the Whole More....and with both the One that IS Existence, and the many of the All that go through the process, we can have the Wholeness of Being ... and within that is all power , all dominion and all humility.for we are the alpha and omega, the sewer and the nectar....and at any moment can Be that which we Are.....ahh but the illusion has become so powerful that we have forgotten and now get only glimpses and vague memories.
So we are The creator....we Are the created which creates anew their Being. With every breath, though we may Know it not Change is present and all is possible.
And the humility ahh what a Joy ...for in bowing to the process, we take each moment, and bow to the lessons inherent and the Changes that we bring into being....for we my friends, are the doers and each is an important experience in the journey into the Beyond. So we "eat" what is infront of us and Change and process it, and it becomes the fertilyzer that helps us all grow into the More.
Each view can give us a better picture if we allow ...without prejudging and fitting it into our already existing programs that have become the parameters by which we live this thing we call 'life' ... that so often is dull because we do not let go the blinders ... the programs accepted and enforced through repitition in order to control and 'avoid chaos'(for such were the reasons given) ..... but so much more is ever present - where will we put our limitations ?
Blessings and thank you
Namaste
HoneySuckleBlue
10-29-2007, 06:02 PM
Rituals are handed down as a means of focusing for those who have not remembered how.
I have read and found in my own life that rituals are a good way to Remember something. They kinda mimic how we learn a mastery of something...by repetition. I also believe in reincarnation of energy so in my mind rituals are like going through old journals you know? They remind you of previous lives and the things that were learned in them.
Could it be that rituals can mean many things to each individual? Or are you saying that once you know how to focus properly you can recall any given thing at any desired time just by intending it? Cause dang I try that and I am about three mebbe four life times away from being that good, and in control of whatever that focusing muscle is...us slopeds need ritual in our lives. Like a morning glory vine makes us of a corn stalk to grow closer to the sun.
oldwolf
10-29-2007, 06:13 PM
hsb....you answered before the post before your answer was completed....maybe that might help clarify what i was/am trying to say
And sometimes indeed the words get in the Way and the intuition and Awareness that there Is More makes it so that there is more yet to come and we can rejoice in the adventure in front of us.
sylvanlightning
10-29-2007, 11:26 PM
I understand connectedness and we are all part of it.. but what I am trying to understand is, if everything is made up of the same energy, if it is the same energy and if we create and draw from each other/orselves, do we draw from the universe as well, if it is all the same then there is no seperation.? It does not address this in the books and that is why I ask. I have not yet found anyone that can answer this.. to complete the lesson that is being learned/taught. Not rying to prove or disprove anything, just trying to find the truth in its entirety.
Bright Blessings
sh'Giving is receiving.' ~~* Scholar Warrior
'Reiki is the divine grace of God, an immeasurable gift and a wonderful tool to help one develop conscious awareness...'
http://www.soul-u-tions.ca/reiki.html
Energy follows attention. When one gives attention to another: a rose, a star, a tree, a person, an animal exc...
then a circle is created where one receives energy/attention from the other reflection of divinity.
When I first read the Yoga Sutras, I was amazed at the concept of Samadhi.
This at-onement with another, requires concentration/merging with that which you would hear/become;
a blending then occurs where you are that.
The Law of Allowance is very powerful.
Setting your intention to 'Open,' the Universe flows through you.
Setting your intention to 'Listen,' you are filled with the awareness of another.
http://www.silvamethod.com/ (http://www.silvamethod.com/)
Bright Blessings & Blessed Be
HoneySuckleBlue
10-30-2007, 02:02 AM
Oh wow, that was the answer to exactly what I was asking. What are the odds of that?:) It's hard to tell what you are working on because your status shows you as off line.
So the point is, it is all necessary for growth? For there to be Oneness there needs to be separateness and together they create the whole?
But in reality it hinges on us ... how we are willing to see it ... how we are willing to Change ... how truthful we are willing to Be.
So it is with fear as well ... for when we come to realize that no one can take our power unless we give it to them ,,, the fear dwindles .... and as we practice this empowerment of Self - the art of being truthful and respectful and of empowering the Self - fear comes more and more to lose it's power over us and slowly we realize that anything has only the power over us we give it.
If this is true then it does'nt really matter if we use ritual as placeholders or tools for remembering as long as we are following our own callings and cultivating our own? Anything we find usefull should be fair game...
The view could also be of ritual as a springboard into the abyss and can even accelerate the remembering process...if approached with the right kinda mind frame. I mean you can't really go join a group so you don't have to make any more choices, or for status, security and all that crap. But if you are a careful student of the Self then it should'nt really matter what you are doing, it can be used to learn and grow, ritual included.
To say other wise would be to indulge in excuses would'nt it?
HoneySuckleBlue
10-31-2007, 03:53 PM
I just read this in a book that came in the mail yesterday...and it made me think of this thread.
A cat in a vintage cartoon plucks off a sign and tosses the symbol against a wall. The zero transforms into a round hole, a portal, and the cat leaps through.
Our starting point may seem like a Zero. But for now, before looking at numbers and math, let's simply see it as a circle. No matter what our spiritual practise, we each live within the circle of Creation, each within the circle-the cohesiveness-of our own form.
This is an opening consideration about human form and how we use it. We may feel comfortable with it. Or not. In a sense, what we do with our lives, how much Joy and Satisfaction that we experience, will be based on how well we get along with the 'equipment', the form we inhabit and the Spirit that infuses it.
~Math for Mystics, Renna Shesso
sylvanlightning
11-02-2007, 07:14 PM
thats cool, thank you ~~*
HoneySuckleBlue
11-02-2007, 11:57 PM
Well thank you for reading it:)
I have been thinking and wondering...if you are everything and All can how can it be possible to give your power away? When we love something unconditionaly and surrender to the flow, how can it be possible for the action to be less than perfect and coming from the Source of all that is? (aside from us getting in our own way and thinking too much) Everything is for our growth...or it's not. We just choose which path to follow about as much as a taste bud chooses which tastes to sense...so it's more about attitude for us. How do we recieve the fires that burn our houses down, how do we recieve the challenge of not being able to bear children or how we deal with staggering poverty/wealth. It's in those choices of attitude that determine the quality of our lives...as far as I can see and like that we are all equal.
sylvanlightning
11-03-2007, 05:13 AM
right, like its 'your' power to begin with, eh?
indeed, grace, like faith, moves mountains of obstacles.
Yes, excellent! In a supportive Universe, one whom cares for Her children more than Herself, sacrificing Her very body to feed and sustain even the most ungrateful of Her children unconditionally.... how could a conscious flower not give thanks for both the Sunlight & the Soil/Soul/very fabric of Gaia body which thou's feet embrace tenderly?
Path, like a road less travelled, chosen for the sheer newness of untrampled ground.
Equal indeed, my just Sister, in as being grateful for this breath and the next, as well as (and not before, behind or beneath) each crumb of bread and each drop of water.
HoneySuckleBlue
11-03-2007, 02:07 PM
Do you think we come into this physical realm to work within it's limitations? To understand what limitation and boundaries are in order to trancend them? If we can't trancend them here, with placeholders how can we in a more fluid space?
It seems to me like the placeholders of our experiences and lessons learned here translate over to the unlimited spiritual realm. It's supposed to be one huge spectrum right?
Perhaps on that side it is as difficult as holding a handfull of silence when trying to learn? Here things move slower and there is a wide definition between levels of vibrating matter and what it is not. So we can have a closer look at what silence is and what we are trying to hold. Differences are more apparent and can be created in such a wide variety to be explored...that's got to be facinating to an essence that is ALL. How am I not my self? :)
I think spirit is here to face it's self and become self aware. It seems so startling to the masses when their ordinariness is put in question. What we are not just humans? The taste bud realising what it's purpose is, as is the nose hair and the pinkie toe...imagine the dawning when the whole organism learns it is part of an even bigger picture...ever unfolding conciousness into enternity. A continuous feedback loop of tastes, stubbed toes and boogers. Like a giant pseudopod creating the slime trail of Time and space with it's movements towards the light. Nothing more...nothing less, powering it's Self from the Source and by it's sheer existence giving power back by Living.
http://www.hiltonpond.org/images/SnailMesodonClausus01.jpg
old_crone
11-03-2007, 03:35 PM
To day I thought how grateful I am for communication. Knowing we all relate on some level, and communicate in a trillion different ways, the humor in me looked for something to share, because wisdom was not speaking clearly.
Having always wondered, when enlightenment seemed poked full of holes like a lace curtain for our want of an explanation, what we were really looking for. Also wondering where all the other things we think, and feel fit into this place of awareness.
Then like magic I am 10 years old again, and my adopted grandmother is asking us to drag this braided rag rug out to this line she had hung special for the job we were about to do. We were given brooms, and told to beat the dust, and dirt from the rug. Often as we beat the rug she would call out, “Do not kill the rug, just beat it, just beat it.” My sister, and I laughed. We got into the rhythm of the beating, “Not Killing the rug” and did well. We talked about how the rug was made, where the material came from, who walked on it, and what possessed someone to make a rug you had to beat, not wash. In the end feeling quite enlightened we asked our grandmother when we should stop beating the rug, and she replied, “When it no longer wiggles with dirt.”
We took a walk, and went to the neighbors barn. The neighbor asked us what we had been up to. We explained the process of the rug job. He smiled, and replied, I guess its kind of like knowing when you need to stop beating a dead cow. We asked why you would beat a dead cow in the first place. He replied, “ Because they have out lived their usefulness, and when he no longer wiggles with life, you beat him to make sure he is dead.” This day of enlightenment was far beyond our minds to understand. So off we went to the woods.
While sitting under this tree a man coming to work for the farmer stopped, and asked what we were thinking. We explained the rug thing, and the dead cow thing, and he said, “ Some times all you need to know is what side you are living on, and not dribble your inner power, and energy like honey across the floor for ants to find.”
At the confused look on our face he laughed, and said, “Enlightenment is lived in full awareness of who, and what you are. In this the union between the god-self, the spirit, and the flesh does not seek questions they already have answers for inside them, they just breathe the breath of creation into existence as if we all are no more than energy, and ripples to a larger stream of consciousness. “
My sister said, “I get it. What you are saying is when we get stagnate we collect dust, dirt, beatings of a sort, and understand you do not beat a cow in the first place dead, or alive. You live growing each breath, and are then your power, and awareness. You are the truth you know, knowing this truth will also change one day for you. You understand your connections, and embrace an inner respect, and deep seeded love for All, not just your little world.”
I was still beating my rug inside looking for a co-dependent place to sound wise from. In the end the answer was simple. If you hold on you are playing a give, and take for eternity. If you live your wholeness, you become your wholeness, growing ever more fruitful in what the years, lessons, and experiences show, and teach you. The only thing we have is change. In this we are one with the act of living, or living in parts as we so choose the act to be. This then is how we define the power within us. We are here to grow beyond what we know, not to make excuses along the way, or avoid the understanding, and depth we are capable of seeing.
In the end we are not what we say we do, but we are what we do, because we are becoming that which we already are, one with the all as the senses of the god-self are awakening to yet more.
P.S. That reminds me of the blond who was driving down the road. She had put cruise control on, and was knitting away. A police officer pulled along side her moving car because she was ignoring his flashing light. He yelled "Pull Over" she replied, "No, Mittens."
Sometimes what we see is just a matter of perception, and not the whole truth. For in this moment we have not lived the whole truth, we have only lived the truth we knew.
HoneySuckleBlue
11-04-2007, 03:24 AM
...when enlightenment seems poked full of holes like a lace curtain
That was beautiful imagery Aireal:) thanks!
I enjoy the way Greg says It as well....
Yeah, that Greg was an odd one http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Nothing is personal http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif ...and then again, everything is personal when you are everything
The only thing that stands between the realization of our infinity and the suffering of the finite, is the 'I"
...And there is a whole crowd of 'I's" going up to the microphone one after the other so quickly that it seems that there is just one, like the still frames of a movie flickering by that create the illusion of movement. And it's so complete and colourful that we get lost in the movie that's playing and reacting to what we see... maybe eventually getting frustrated and board with the reruns, all the while forgetting we are actually in the audience watching the projection of a movie and a script that we wrote in the first place.... kinda leaves us with the option of saying the heck with it and going to sleep, or stumbling around through the dark following the light beam, the turning the danged thing off, pulling out the film and writing something new...
"...in the Inca tradition we believe we do not search for the enlightenment, we already are enlightened. The only thing we do is release the resistance, and that's what we do slowly."
In the end we are not what we say we do, but we are what we do, because we are becoming that which we already are, one with the all as the senses of the god-self are awakening to yet more.
P.S. That reminds me of the blond who was driving down the road. She had put cruise control on, and was knitting away. A police officer pulled along side her moving car because she was ignoring his flashing light. He yelled "Pull Over" she replied, "No, Mittens."
Sometimes what we see is just a matter of perception, and not the whole truth. For in this moment we have not lived the whole truth, we have only lived the truth we knew. I loved the ps my sister and I share conversations like that. It cracks me up and perplexes me at the same time.
But yes,yes to the perception thing. Rich and I are working on this alot the last year or so. It is difficult to realise when you are percieving something projected by your experiences as a reflexive respones, or as a insight to some Whole Truth you know? You know. It's a buggar for me any way. Rich is still in firm denial that there is any way but his, even though he knows in his heart that is not so, lol. It is just facinating to see people when they are seeing projections in them selves, and knowing that I must be doing this to my self as well...it's a challenge to realise you are also in the audience and the author who can change everything at will without spontaneously combusting :tongue:
oldwolf
11-26-2007, 08:45 PM
Amazing how we all stand in line to be saved - to "save" another is part of the same dis-ease - enabling keeps the other from growing through learning their lessons...such a fucking co-dependent society....
Change does not happen unless you are involved in changing your own Self....without that you are all victims and life happens to you...you are constantly reacting to something outside yourself...and victims are always crying foul, or waiting for a revolution, or waiting hoping the aliens come, or the return of the savior....Be the Change you want to see...individually be that ...not organize to make it happen ...just Be that.
oldwolf
11-26-2007, 09:13 PM
For your "Power" has always been just that....the power to Be....which we give away when we make it dependent upon anything else
With our very Existence is our being...and our power to Be....indeed it was never ours save when we decided to come to Awaremenss and therin separated ourselfs and therefore broke it down into free will and all that which goes with the territory
You have choices ?.... then one you must choose is to either depend upon the outside to empower your world ...or take back that power unto your own Self
Blessings
Namaste
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