Datura

[unreallife]

so i live out in the middle of freking nowhere and i've been reading up on datura and last year i had a SHIT-load of chances to pick but i missed it, (partly because i didnt know what datura was and if i did all the leafs had fallen off and only the seed pods were left) and this year i see MANY plants in 2 main places both within 10mins walking distance.I am planing on picking, storing and possibly tripping but idk when because i got school (maybe on a holiday? or maybe over the next summer).The mature plants have white and purple flowers and the most seed pods i've counted on one plant is like 2 or 3 so probly lots of seeds plus by then the plants will have more seed pods and leaves by then. Any tips on storing tripping or anything in general? After the plants mature and seed pods open ill harvest and because of the abundace of them i'm willing to share if any one wants seeds to grow or w/e but you'll have to wait for them to mature and if you do want any part of the plant you should read experiences and doses on www.erowid.com (http://www.erowid.com) and just read up on it. cuz i'll be damed if im gonna give it to someone who has no idea what their doing and eat a retarted number of seeds. If the trip is anything like i've read its pretty hardcore and dangerous if you OD.

[dacre4]

I really don't understand the big attraction to this plant.

[Ayzcrava]

I'd say don't do it, but it have you I have a long list to advice.

First of all, its not a trip, its a delerium. As soon as you take it there's a large chance you'll end up forgetting you took it and even you remember you'll think everything you see is real. You might be talking to people not htere or even thinking you are somewhere you are not. That is extremely dangerous.
I'd say only do it if you have a sitter who is preferably phisically strnoger then you so that if you try and do anything foolish without knowing, they can stop you.

Besides the danger of the mental effects, its a poison aswell, and the difference in dose to 'trip' and to die is not much at all. Your heartrate will be extremely high during the trip as will your tempreature. Make sure someone can check that, if its too high you'll have to go to a hospital and need direct medical care. Also; your eyes might be off fora few days because of pupil dilation, so its best if you plan it well.

The rate of death is alarmingly high with this drug; it ís a poison and it sjust really easy to overdose. If you want to take it, have tripsitters, preferably more then one because it'll last more then a day and they can take turns watching you. Also, make sure they can check your heartrate and know to take you to the hospital if anything goes wrong. Know you will put your life in risk, and that the chances of a good experience are small.

Of dossage I do not know. A friend of mine who ate 20 did not feel ,much except for the fact his pupils were dilated quite a lot, but he felt high for two days, so I think you need a bit more then that, but BE CAREFUL.

[sw0o0sh]

Just do your research, man. People here will only try and lead you away from the experience, whilst at the same time backing themselves up on the one time they tried it as an example. Who knows, maybe you'll end up preaching the same after you try it once too, either way, just be prepared. Think of the delirium induced by sleeping pills times one thousand.

[dacre4]

This is a perfect plant for darwins evolution though you gotta admit.

[unreallife]

I'd say don't do it, but it have you I have a long list to advice.

First of all, its not a trip, its a delerium. As soon as you take it there's a large chance you'll end up forgetting you took it and even you remember you'll think everything you see is real. You might be talking to people not htere or even thinking you are somewhere you are not. That is extremely dangerous.
I'd say only do it if you have a sitter who is preferably phisically strnoger then you so that if you try and do anything foolish without knowing, they can stop you.

Besides the danger of the mental effects, its a poison aswell, and the difference in dose to 'trip' and to die is not much at all. Your heartrate will be extremely high during the trip as will your tempreature. Make sure someone can check that, if its too high you'll have to go to a hospital and need direct medical care. Also; your eyes might be off fora few days because of pupil dilation, so its best if you plan it well.

The rate of death is alarmingly high with this drug; it ís a poison and it sjust really easy to overdose. If you want to take it, have tripsitters, preferably more then one because it'll last more then a day and they can take turns watching you. Also, make sure they can check your heartrate and know to take you to the hospital if anything goes wrong. Know you will put your life in risk, and that the chances of a good experience are small.

Of dossage I do not know. A friend of mine who ate 20 did not feel ,much except for the fact his pupils were dilated quite a lot, but he felt high for two days, so I think you need a bit more then that, but BE CAREFUL.only problem im one big ass dude i doubt any of my friends can restrain me. lmao is there anyway to take a underdose as to not make me go into dellerium but just fell i high or even a buzz and preferably not lose my vision XD. Ive seen on erowid that the leaves (if smoked) induce visions but it dosent say if it take you into dellerium. Is that true? Or bye visions do they mean dellirum?

[sw0o0sh]

I suppose there is, but still even if you don't do a lot it still MAY not matter, as the concentration of the chemical that makes you trip can vary from plant to plant at any part of the plant, so one big piece with a low concentration could be potentionally less than a small piece with a high concentration.

But my friend smoked the leaves before and felt a very strong buzz, but no delirium or hallucinations.

[OctopusNightstand]

I've done it twice. Havnt gotten a trip. I need to do more than one whole leaf i guess.. More than 50 seeds too. Me and four friends did that much each on separate occasions. Damnit..

[J.C]

The trip isn't normally fun or spirtal. Smoke salvia if your looking to lose your mind, it's much much safer and harder to OD if you can at all....

If you do choose to used devil's weed remeber it can take up to 8 hours to start working, this is why alot of people OD (among other facts) but if you take some and it's not strong enough for you to lose your head then wait 2 day at lest before dosing agian. Best of luck, there is a good reason this drug is advised agiansed, don't learn the hard way.

J.C

[C123-473]

There's a local kid who does that stuff. Last week he and his girlfriend were sitting in front of Walmart each lost in their own little worlds, babbling stuff to themselves, not even aware of each other. Sad, really. Ever have a sickness-induced nightmare you couldn't wake up from? I for one do not seek out confusion and delerium. But, to each his own, I guess.

[J.C]

Once you use datura you'll always second guess everything, and never truly know if your actally there or still tripping stuck...

[PsychMyke]

i dont get why people just dont eat acid

datura isnt fun period

lsd is

and if you wanna trip why not go for the better drug.

also ill bet you could come across L easier then datura, dont be a fool man. people die on that shit. and for what...something thats not even fun. fuccckk that

[GanjaGuru]

i dont get why people just dont eat acid

datura isnt fun period

lsd is

and if you wanna trip why not go for the better drug.

also ill bet you could come across L easier then datura, dont be a fool man. people die on that shit. and for what...something thats not even fun. fuccckk thatWell I don't think acid is easier to come by then datura, datura grows just about everywhere and kids hear you can get 'fucked up' on it so they eat it...and freak out, go to hospital, and sometimes die or become a vegetable. Datura is nothing to fuck with and like others said its not really a 'trip'

just stick with weed and keep your ears open for some better stuff

If you are really determined to try it though I would just try smoking it although I have heard mixed reports on that. Some people say it doesn't do shit, some say it gives a decent high, and others say it launches you straight into a brick wall of delerium for a while

[Beckner420]

Its not the trip that lures me to datura, it just seems like something that should be done. People rant on how pot is natural and theres nothing wrong with it. Sure jimson weed is dangerous and eclipses pot in power, but its an intense experiment that could be intresting. In the name of knowledge i say.

[doom876]

First, people know it's poison. It's annoying that every thing I read about the plant sounds like a scare tactic. If you are worried about hurting someone, then have a sitter chain your arms and legs to a tree before you do it. I still don't get the differance between a delerium and some trips. Some trips make you think unreal things are, or like salvia, made me forget who and where I was.
All the bad syuff heard about dautra, jusr be careful, if ya want a buzz then do some pot. Acid can be hard to get, and the shit here has arsenic as a filler, since so few places make it anymore. Plus, people go brain dead on LSD. Dautra is hyped up, a tbs of seeds shouldn't kill ya.

[C123-473]

Here's something interesting I read on an Erowid link. The L. diffusa looks almost identical to proper L. Williamsii (Peyote), but the chemical makeup is different.


Lophophora diffusa -

A sacred plant held in high esteem by many Mexican Indians. A rare and very slow growing solitary cactus that is limited to a small range in the wild, now sadly threatened. A two year old specimen can be only 2 cm across. This cactus is soft, yellow green in color, having indefinite ribs and a 15 cm long conical, carrot like root. It is very similar in appearance to its more famous relative. Known to bloom in its 3rd year, with whitish yellow flowers.

Being spineless it appears to defend itself by being very unobtrusive and barely sticking out of the ground, and by its extremely bitter taste. Contains only traces of mescaline. Produces a dream-like delirium with realistic hallucinations similar to Datura alkaloids due to its high content of (tetrahydro) isoquinolines. This plant appears to be an earlier evolutionary form of L. williamsii.

Contains: anhalinine, anhalonidine, hordenine, isopellotine, mescaline, N-methylmescaline, O-methylpellotine, pellotine.
Has anyone here familiar with the effects of datura ever tried L. diffusa? And, is it similar?

[Beckner420]

Well its got mescaline in it, so im guessing its more of a peyote trip.

[C123-473]

But the level of mescaline is very, very low.
I believe that it is legal for that reason.

[GanjaGuru]

First, people know it's poison. It's annoying that every thing I read about the plant sounds like a scare tactic. If you are worried about hurting someone, then have a sitter chain your arms and legs to a tree before you do it. I still don't get the differance between a delerium and some trips. Some trips make you think unreal things are, or like salvia, made me forget who and where I was.
All the bad syuff heard about dautra, jusr be careful, if ya want a buzz then do some pot. Acid can be hard to get, and the shit here has arsenic as a filler, since so few places make it anymore. Plus, people go brain dead on LSD. Dautra is hyped up, a tbs of seeds shouldn't kill ya.You MUST be fuckin retarded
Please tell me it was a joke

[dacre4]

Yeh i don't think daturas that hyped up because everything i have heard about it is pretty much the same. bad news. I do believe datura is much more available than lsd, hell i can go to my neighbors plant right now but i'm never gonnah do that because my life is worth everything to me. However i do agree with beckner because if you come out of a datura trip as the same person, than you've got props in my book.

[psyhco_delic]

doom876, arsenic as a filler for acid????? LOL who the hell would do that? dont people want the business?

got any test results where arsenic have ever been found in LSD anywhere?

the only thing i can find is..
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_journal1.shtml

about 1/3 down the page where a 17 y.o. guy ingested LSD with arsenic ("for that special kick") while on DMT, methedrine and normal LSD. which means he had LSD and decided to dose himself with arsenic.

[GanjaGuru]

the only thing i can find is..
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_journal1.shtml

about 1/3 down the page where a 17 y.o. guy ingested LSD with arsenic ("for that special kick") while on DMT, methedrine and normal LSD. which means he had LSD and decided to dose himself with arsenic.Sounds like fiction to me, nobody is gonna use arsenic as a 'filler' when it can easily be diluted in alchohol to just make it weaker

[psyhco_delic]

thats what i thought seemed like a stupid thing to do

[doom876]

"doom876, arsenic as a filler for acid????? LOL who the hell would do that? dont people want the business? "

It's so hard to get the real stuff here they can do that. It isn't funny. It makes you sick and grind your teeth.