View Full Version : Guilty of manslaughter yay or nay about the Mccanns
So what do you think>? For the past few months it seems like the Mccanns have been in the media spotlight.
But there is something missing. Something not quite right about the case. A kid doesn't suddenly go missing without trace. Also, the dogs smelt a dead body, yet no excavations were made and then the latest finding. Traces of blood in a hired car found after 25 days. There was also smeered blood stains as though someone was trying to clean up after them. The Mccanns vowed to stay in portugal to prove their innocence. Now something must have happened in their minds to make them come back home. Totally contradicting their so called cause of the return to innocence. My gut instinct is as though there is something the Mccanns know but they know if they revealed, they would be plastered as child murderers. When for fact they care a lot about their kids. Maybe Madeline died or was killed by accident. In an irrational moment, anybody is capable of anything.
But what are your views.
verseau_miracle
09-09-2007, 03:27 PM
The polls not working. But guilty
Power_13
09-09-2007, 07:06 PM
Open minded and suspicious, but totally sick of the media circus.
Power_13
09-10-2007, 09:24 AM
Hey, something I've noticed about the McCanns. Whenever they're referred to, they're referred to as "The McCann's". But since they're being referred to in the plural rather than possessive or using a contraction, shouldn't it be missing the apostrophe?
Even the fucking newspapers are doing this. What am I missing here?
dapablo
09-10-2007, 10:26 AM
amazed that anyone can assume to hold an opinion either way
dhARmaMiLlO
09-10-2007, 10:59 AM
I'll make no judgment without what the Police truly know.
One thing I do know is. My parents NEVER left me alone at home when I was that age.
hailtothekingbaby
09-10-2007, 11:09 AM
Oh dear. I haven't been following this anymore. The parents are now suspected? Hm...
There is damning evidence that Madeline was in the boot of the hired car, 25 days after the alarm was raised. I now believe the McCanns know alot more than they make out. The whole media campaign served only as a distraction. I reckon this could be worse than the Rosemarie and Fred west case.
lithium
09-11-2007, 01:20 PM
Well this makes it a far more interesting story, and for that we can all be thankful:)
wiggy
09-11-2007, 01:38 PM
Its not a nice subject, no missing child is ever a nice subject.
It doesnt make sense to me that:
1) they go out for dinner and leave 3 children in a room by themself with the window open
2) they had a set of twins and one of them was a girl so if someone had taken Madeline why not take that girl as well, she would have been easier to hide as babys are, she wouldnt have been easy to trace - its not hard to get a passport or birth certificate for a baby
If the McCanns were not guilty of her dissapearance, they are guilty of child neglect in the first instance. If because of this, their child is kidnapped, they must take some of the blame.
But I feel this gut feeling, that smelly smell thats smelly. Something aint quite right and something don't work out. In line with all the evidence, it doesn't seem to vindicate the Mc Canns. Infact it puts the finger at them.
My belief is, they used the media to make it out that they were innocent. (Hense, try and get support from the public) Also this served as a distraction. 25 days after the alarm was raised and we were all bogged down with Madeline images, the McCanns took Madelines body out of its temporary buriel, close to the home. (This explains why the dogs smelt a dead body at the apartment)
Then they drive out into the Algarve and make sure she is never found again. Infact i don't believe we will ever find a body or Madeline alive. I believe it was an accidental killing and that it was not intentional. Because the McCanns knew that they would be hated and be up there with Myra Hindley and the Moors. I suppose they thought they would never be able to live their lives again as free people.
This case is like the Moors murder. But in the Algarve and only one slain child. But the question posed, the two twins, thingy and Amelie. Are they safe? Or should Social Services put a restriction order and give the twins to relatives of Madelines parents? Ie,. Grandparents, uncles or Aunts?
Peace-Phoenix
09-11-2007, 11:08 PM
Well this makes it a far more interesting story, and for that we can all be thankful:)My thoughts exactly....
hailtothekingbaby
09-12-2007, 12:17 AM
Manslaughter, yay! ^_^
fountains of nay
09-12-2007, 01:30 PM
Openminded, but obviously, there is so much room for suspicion.
dapablo
09-12-2007, 01:44 PM
The human being does not like mystery we like to know whats going on. Our minds will leap at the chance of concluding this story and with no other persons offered we will be more than happy to accept the parents as killers. We achieve a conclusion and can move on, we much prefer that to leaving an unsolved mystery and that is why everyone is so eager to find them guilty regardless of nonsense evidence. 80% DNA ffs could be a banana.
verseau_miracle
09-12-2007, 03:05 PM
The human being does not like mystery we like to know whats going on. Our minds will leap at the chance of concluding this story and with no other persons offered we will be more than happy to accept the parents as killers. We achieve a conclusion and can move on, we much prefer that to leaving an unsolved mystery and that is why everyone is so eager to find them guilty regardless of nonsense evidence. 80% DNA ffs could be a banana. Im quite fond of mystery, as it happens. But then i often doubt im human
Power_13
09-12-2007, 07:59 PM
80% DNA ffs could be a banana.Didn't the DNA come from some hair they found in the boot? Last time I checked, bananas didn't have beautiful gold flowing locks.
The problem with DNA evidence is, without the body or forensic records that we know come from the body, it can't be proven definitively that it came from her. It can probably be proven as very highly likely, but I don't think that's enough for it to be solid evidence.
I'm not entirely sure why you think everybody is willing to accept the parents as the killers. The balance has shifted a little, but I'd say the majority still believe they're innocent, judging from the tabloids.
is it actually true that humans share DNA with bananas? :eek:
Police have apparently got the book of shadows. To even gaze upon its script, is to be dragged in to a world of twist, innuendo and macabre sinicism at its finest. They say, the book has clues that could pin Kate to the murder. Now someone has mentioned sleeping pills may have killed Madeline.
I personally believe that Kate must have accidentally given her daughter sleeping pills, thinking that they would do no harm. Perhaps making sure Madeline was sleepy whilst the parents had a gracious meal at the gracious restaurant up the road. when the Mcanns arrived back, Madeline was dead. They both buried Madeline in the apartment grounds.(Why did the dog smell a dead body at the apartment? ) THey raised the alarm and started a carefully coordinated media frenzy. 25 days later, when the suspicion was not on the parents but on the phantom kidnapper, they put the body in the boot of the car and buried Madeline in the Algarve. Whilst they carried the body to her temporary burial ground in the apartment, there must of been blood. The parents attempted to clean it, but they still left some. So, this explains Madelines hair in the boot (Which could not have come off other clothing. This also explains why there have been no actual confirmed sightings of Madeline. This is why, no trace, not even a sound. It seems that the evidence is not vindicating them. Infact it is pointing the finger at them. The appeal fund? This is another coordinated manouvre. This is for bail money, perhaps or simply money for when they need a good lawyer.
It is hard for me to say the parents murdered madeline, without knowing for sure. Infact, in light of all the evidence, it makes it seem, the parents are guilty. I knew from the start, something wasn't quite right. How can a child just vanish without a clue or any sightings? Why did the MCcanns leave three little children alone? In England, this is called Neglect. In Portugal, maybe there isn't a law.Even if the parents didn't murder madeline, they still neglected their children in the first instance. The consequences would cost the life of one of them. BUT, why did this phantom kidnapper only take one? When a kidnap takes place, the kidnapper often leaves lots of dna. How come police have not found any non Mccann dna in the apartment? This could be a massive twist. Like watching Murder she wrote and then finding out that it was the female detective who was actually commiting the murders.
It baffles me, but I have my suspicions.
dapablo
09-17-2007, 09:27 PM
is it actually true that humans share DNA with bananas? :eek:
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/mole00/mole00304.htm
make of it what you will
hipsie16
09-17-2007, 09:47 PM
I feel so sorry for the mother she is devestated but I don't think the father seems as worried? He's too breezy in his aproach. His blog is to matter of fact. Its not quite right. I'm not pointing the finger but I'm still not sure.
Power_13
09-18-2007, 07:30 PM
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/mole00/mole00304.htm
make of it what you willAm I missing something?
"As far as 80% of a banana's genome matches human genome-->Absolutely not true!"
Scarlet101
09-23-2007, 02:53 PM
Im open minded but have my suspicions.
Whatever happens, the Mccanns will always be guilty of neglect, and perhaps if they hadn't been so careless in whichever way you look at it, perhaps they would still have Maddie there with them.
If Madeline Mccann is dead. And the parents didn't murder her. They are still guilty of murder, but indirectly. Their neglect was the very reason Madeline was taken. Because for a few sacred hours, the phantom or mystery person snatched Madeline and simply vanished off the face of Europe.
If the Mccanns are not sent to Hell (Jail. New term for a prison is Hell). They would have sentenced themselves anyway to a lifetime of guilt and sorrow.
katee
09-27-2007, 11:42 AM
If Madeline Mccann is dead. And the parents didn't murder her. They are still guilty of murder, but indirectly. Their neglect was the very reason Madeline was taken. Because for a few sacred hours, the phantom or mystery person snatched Madeline and simply vanished off the face of Europe.
If the Mccanns are not sent to Hell (Jail. New term for a prison is Hell). They would have sentenced themselves anyway to a lifetime of guilt and sorrow.
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fountains of nay
10-11-2007, 05:39 PM
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10-11-2007, 09:08 PM
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10-12-2007, 04:01 AM
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Freya85
10-14-2007, 11:59 PM
I am personally very suspicious however regardless of whether they did it or not the second they got back in the country if I were social services I would have taken the twins off them as they are obviously irresponsible and unfit parents to leave 3 small children 2 of them babies unattended. People like that shouldn't be allowed to have kids.
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Well, another month has gone by. Madeline has been seen, but only on detergent bottles in Germany.I think Madeline is well and truly gone. It is ashame, such a lovely child, innocent in her life, cut short just as she grasped the meaning of life.
Do I think the parents are guilty? Yeh but no. I just don't know. I think that they should be charged with gross negligence at the first opportunity. But the portuguese police are still trying to find a phantom kidnapper. Or so it seems.
I think once someone has lied to much, they just cannot stop lying because the humiliation and anger on global proportions would be too great and the parent's own lives would be in jeapody. Still, I can't help wondering whether this is one massive cover up. Just a way for a mother to portray herself as Mother of the year. Even though she quite blatently left three children on their own whilst she had the finest food Portugal had to offer. What parent in their right mind would leave their children alone for over three hours? For many parents, the thought is shocking. i don't think they actually think about it. Negligence is a form of abuse. As a tragic result, Madeline is gone. If the McCanns had acted like responsible parents, Madeline would still be alive and well. it is tragic and I feel for the parents, but I just can't help feeling angry at their total lack of sense of their own responsibility. They are their own victims.
I just don't know. Yeh but no. Once I was open minded, but something aint quite right. It is like looking at a cake. I am sure it is a cake, but the baker tells me its bread.
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