Jesus was a Hippie!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[*dave*]

Jesus travel around the middle east, preaching about love and peace and healing the sick and saving the damned. Think about Jesus was an old school hippie. Christians need to focus on how Jesus lived and not on the early churches teachings. What would jesus do about gay marriage and abortion. He would accept people for who they are. Jesus was perfect because he is the son of God. The church is flawed because it was set up by man.

[19FlowerGirl87]

Lol.

[shedtroll]

Yup, Damn right.

Jesus was an accepting kind man who was in affect a hippie. Sadly, This went (and is going) above the heads of a lot of people.

(I just found out where this thread is, and I read the sign...Christians only, ahh, right, I'm Wiccan, heh, I'll leave now).

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/newsmilies/leaving.gif

[Willow_Jon]

Yes , i have always believed he was the ORIGINAL HIPPIE...peace and love and nature....and charity......and everyone was his brother and his sister.
A VERY cool person !

[asilos vulnerado]

Jesus travel around the middle east, preaching about love and peace and healing the sick and saving the damned. Think about Jesus was an old school hippie. Christians need to focus on how Jesus lived and not on the early churches teachings. What would jesus do about gay marriage and abortion. He would accept people for who they are. Jesus was perfect because he is the son of God. The church is flawed because it was set up by man.
Couldn't agree more
The creation of the modern church is IMO one of the greatest tragedies of history. Its sort of the the gov. taking Martin Luther king jr's ideas and many many years from now using them to promost racism. This isnt a very good metaphor actually, but you see what Im saying?
The church took Jesus's teachings to lead one to liberation and used them in the EXACT OPPOSITE WAY, as a way to STOP people from attaining liberation

[galaxi]

jesus was the first hippie that touched the soles of his tattered flip flopd feet to this earth.
he was the first peace promoter
he was the first activist
the first vegetarian
the first straight edge man.

he was the first influence of positivity.

he was a simple nomadic traveler that wished the best for us all.

i am a follower of this man. i love him so very much.. he changed me from the inside out. i am day by day ..thru his unfailing grace currently growing into his likeness.

[natural philosophy]

^uh...jesus wasn't vegetarian. and he wasn't the first of all of those other things listed either.

[galaxi]

^uh...jesus wasn't vegetarian. and he wasn't the first of all of those other things listed either.

then who was?
let me rephrase..GOD. oh yea the father of jesus.

[natural philosophy]

i don't know who the first was, but to claim jesus was the first vegetarian? the first promoter of peace? you are attributing qualities to the man that are fabricated.

if your argument is that jesus = god and therefore jesus was the first to do great things, then i have to remind you that the same god was the first to destroy nations because of religion, the first to ordered his followers to keep slaves, and the first who told his people to rape young women. doesn't sound peaceful and straight edge to me.

don't get me wrong, i'm also a follower of christ's teachings, but i'm not going to say that jesus was the first computer repair man or the first to invent the hammer, because it's all just silly stuff i made up. like your first post in the thread.

[Okiefreak]

Jesus travel around the middle east, preaching about love and peace and healing the sick and saving the damned. Think about Jesus was an old school hippie. Christians need to focus on how Jesus lived and not on the early churches teachings. What would jesus do about gay marriage and abortion. He would accept people for who they are. Jesus was perfect because he is the son of God. The church is flawed because it was set up by man.I think a pretty good case can be made for this, backed up by some modern scholarship. Jesus emphasized the value of voluntary poverty and simplicity. He preached non-judgmental acceptance and love of everybody. He taught that we should live in the present and not worry about material concerns. He was anti-establishment, but preached peace and non-violence. Crossan of the Jesus Seminar portrays him as a Jewish peasant cynic. What is a cynic? Not what it means today--a person who believes that people are motivated by selfish interests. In Jesus' time, it was a school of Greek philosophy that "held virtue to be the only good, and stressed independence from worldly needs and pleasures." Cynics were one of many Greek schools of thought that were introduced to Palestine after the Greek occupation by Alexander the Great and later the Roman occupation. Kinda like hippies.

[galaxi]

i don't know who the first was, but to claim jesus was the first vegetarian? the first promoter of peace? you are attributing qualities to the man that are fabricated.

if your argument is that jesus = god and therefore jesus was the first to do great things, then i have to remind you that the same god was the first to destroy nations because of religion, the first to ordered his followers to keep slaves, and the first who told his people to rape young women. doesn't sound peaceful and straight edge to me.

don't get me wrong, i'm also a follower of christ's teachings, but i'm not going to say that jesus was the first computer repair man or the first to invent the hammer, because it's all just silly stuff i made up. like your first post in the thread.

maybe you should try respecting my personal opinion. im a little wacked out in my thinking as im sure you can be at times. im not telling you this is what you too need to believe now am i? i just like to think that god is the root of all positivity. satan is the root of all scum.

[natural philosophy]

you can believe whatever you want man. im not trying to stop you from believing whatever, im just calling out the false statements.

btw, you said in another thread you were vegan your whole life? your parents raised you vegan? if so, that's cool. there wasn't a lot of vegan alternatives 20 yrs ago...

[galaxi]

yea my parents raised me from when i was a little young one as a vegan. my mom joined a natural remedy community where she then learned how to cook wonderfully healthy gourmet vegan food. we arent the starving non nutritious no oil types.
i love very very very much its one of my main passions. i just made plum cobbler tonight.

are you into health?

what religious views (if any) do you have.

[natural philosophy]

yea im a vegan too. and i am into health

my religious views include: the processing of sensual perception, manipulating my environment by physical means, human interaction, non-violence, and mind expansion.

[galaxi]

very nice. sounds like just living an honest life with nothing to formal bout it.

[natural philosophy]

i relied on dogma and the teachings of others for many years until i realized that everything i needed to know was inside of myself. now i only use the words of the teachers as a guide, rather than rules that i must follow.

[natural philosophy]

btw, have you seen the vegetarian forum?

[galaxi]

i dont rely on anything in the bible as my crutch= mostly i feel it uplifts my spirits and quenches my thirst for mental stimulation. im not some feeble soul that cant think for herself! i believe in other things from other religions and i have some conclusions of my own. i have gone through many religious walks in my life this is the one i am involved with now..is all. im not trying to convince anyone this is what they should do (at least i have learned to not even go there with people) i just know its helped me out a whole lot it really has transformed me into a happier being and i find no fault in that. i also feel like veganism/mental purity/natural remedies/exercise/water/sunlight..etc are wrapped up into my religion. god is a part of my religion so is christianity (not the whole entire sect of it.) others are NOT a part of my religion and i think that is where people go wrong.. religions /spiritiual walks/& beliefs are highly personal things.rules are control. i dont like control. beliefs CAN set you free. that is just my personal opinion.

no i should chek that out..i could help the newbies with some recipes!
werd.

[natural philosophy]

mostly i feel it uplifts my spirits and quenches my thirst for mental stimulation.

yes, i feel that way too, with some texts. some parts of the new testament for example, the Baghavad Gita, the teachings of Buddha, the works of Ram Dass, Joseph Campbell, and other works pertaining to the great mysteries.


i also feel like veganism/mental purity/natural remedies/exercise/water/sunlight..etc are wrapped up into my religion.

i agree with you here too. these things are all part of my personal philosophy.


religions /spiritiual walks/& beliefs are highly personal things.rules are control. i dont like control.

how do you feel about the 'sin' ? do you believe there are rules by which god uses to determine our eternal fate?

[galaxi]

i feel there are no rules in which god uses to determine our personal fate. all we have to do is believe in him. i hate the word sin i hate all those faggish terms but out of convenience i use them from time to time.

i feel like "sin" (another word for negativity/negative actions) can lead you astray from believing in god. for instance- when i was dealing with addiction i completely threw god out the window and shut him out of my life.
so maybe its not the actual sin persay i have a problem with-
addiction is the issue here with me at least.
i cant keep from getting addicted to indulgences like those so therefore i stay away from them..not to say others cant..if you can keep yourself from being overcome than i cant judge.
i dont think its the actual "sin" i believe rather that it is the effects of certain sin(s).
if you sin god isnt going to throw you in hell- but if you dont believe in him than he isnt real so why should you get to eternallly fellowship>

[natural philosophy]

^all that being said, how do you feel about the ten commandments?

[galaxi]

i believe in the ten commandments.
1) i think that by putting god first things of this world such as any type of material possession or addiction to negativity or even a celebrity- become less important in life. i dont think we should be overcome by things of no moral worth.

2) worshiping idols= your material posessions..basically living for your fancy cars and poodle skirts. i feel isnt right because it binds you into a money whore and also you start worshiping the wrong things in life such as greed and whatnot.

3) i try not to take the lords name in vain out of respect but i still am trying to understand this one

4)i keep the sabbath- not out of tradition or because in order to be a good christian that is what i should do..i do it as a day of catharsis and rest from all the chaos of the week..(i worship on saturday. unlike most christians)its my special day for meditative communion with his love & nature.

5)honoring my father and mother by respecting them is something i struggle with. but i have gotten a whole lot better in this area. i feel even from a non-religious point of view that respecting EVERY human being especially your parents can help mold your morals/strengthen your idenity because you start respecting yourself more.

6)i absolutely stand by this one..murder is pitiful..its an explosion of hate and anger which is why i feel we should try and control our anger& hatred by not eating meat/watching violent films etc.

7)commiting adultery..hmm- i had not kept this one in the past ofcourse but i am commiting myself to try and wait for marriage- it is more sacred and emotionally binding this way. if your soul intertwines with someone other than your husband than i think it to be unfair to him. i do not condemn others who dont keep this commandment,.however. i just think it cheapens the bauty of sex if you abuse it.

8) i use to steal a long time ago but since have discovered you lose self respect. if you steal out of hatred for a place such as wal-mart your supporting consumerism which i am against. stealing just to steal. this is a grey issue with me.. however i find it alot more fufilling to earn your possessions. so yes i believe this to be legit.

9)i feel it is not right to bear false witnesses against your neighbors. talkin shit aint cool- gossiping is low and shows insecurity. lying is rude.

10) coveting means your perhaps your ungrateful for what you have? i think we should be content. and know that our standards of living are right for us.

basically the ten commandments i try to follow to the best of my ability and i dont condemn people who dont follow every single one.
i think the point of them was just to open our eyes to what we should try and stay away from.
all religions(most) share some of these same guidlines.


how do you feel about them?

[natural philosophy]

how do you feel about them?
keep in mind that you and i probably don't agree with the same 'god'. you (i think) believe in a god with an agenda. i don't believe that 'god' is an omnipotent being who watches over us. god is within, without, everything. i am a pantheist/monist. that being said:

i think the commandments were a good way to keep a jewish society in line and under control. it was perfectly fitting in the time and age in which they lived, but the 'official ten' are of little relevance today (besides a few of course)

the first two i am inclined to agree with, but it has nothing to do with morality. morals are subjective and not universal.

taking the lord's name and keeping the sabbath are of no importance. letters, words, and sentences have no bearing on the cosmos. saying god-damn is the same as saying 'oh god', which is the same as saying 'oh gosh'. it's all just a game of semantics when you look at it, and people were punished (usually with death) by uttering the name Yahweh out loud. as far as keeping the sabbath, i agree and disagree, because every day should be the sabbath. there is nothing special about any time that occurs every seven days on the gregorian calendar that god will recognize as being of more or less importance than the other days.

honoring father and mother and murder, i don't have anything to say on this subject. moses was right about those.

as far as committing adultery, i don't believe in the institution of a religous marriage. it's no more than a ceremony and a piece of paper. if two people are spiritually married, i see no problem with them having sex. if two strangers decide to have sex, i see no problem with that either. i don't think sex even registers on 'god's' radar. it's just another act of life like eating or shitting.

stealing is morally wrong in most societies, but since i don't believe in morality, i don't see a problem with stealing to sustain one's own life. but when a person hurts others by stealing, it is wrong. like the golden rule.

lying and coveting are also based in societal morality. i dont have much to say on these. lie or don't lie. it has no bearing on anything other than your own personal situation. it could be bad, could be good.

living by the commandments can be a good guide by which to live your life. do i think it is absolute? no. do i think it could help somebody to live right? well that depends on the person and whether or not judeo-christianity is right for them...

[galaxi]

very interesting views

[dollydagger]

I am so glad to see people that see the difference between what God gave us vs. what man created: the Church.

ps....I think Jesus had dreads, too. Im almost positive that John the Baptist had dreads

[natural philosophy]

^john the baptist was a nazerite. he most definately had dreads. do you think he brushed his hair when he was travelling through the desert?

i also believe there is a possibility jesus had dreads. but there was nothing said of him following the nazerite tradition...at least i don't think there was...

[xexon]

There are a few documents which give a physical description of Jesus.

His hair was parted in the middle, as was the tradition of the Essenes. It was copper colored, most likely from the sun bleaching it. And it fell about his shoulders in loose ringlets.

Dreads are a stretch. Not impossible, but a stretch.


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[Okiefreak]

There are a few documents which give a physical description of Jesus.

His hair was parted in the middle, as was the tradition of the Essenes. It was copper colored, most likely from the sun bleaching it. And it fell about his shoulders in loose ringlets.

Dreads are a stretch. Not impossible, but a stretch.


xWhere are you getting this?

[xexon]

This link will show several sources. There is debate as to some of it's authenticity but it makes for interesting reading.

http://www.thenazareneway.com/likeness_of_our_saviour.htm


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