Twisted land of OZ

[Samhain]

Ok what follows is the figures you can buy, from the adult reworking of the OZ tales, I have to say I think they're pretty horrible and I don't mean horrible in a good way
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Dorothy's companions, Scarecrow, tinwoodman and the lion and then the Wizard


http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/2152/scarecrow1.jpghttp://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/2152/woodman1.jpghttp://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/2152/lion1.jpghttp://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/2152/wizard1.jpg

[Samhain]

Dorothy and munchkin
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/2152/dorothy.jpg

Toto (Don't ask)
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/2152/toto1.jpg

[Samhain]

If you don't like those, hows about a twisted Christmas?
Santa Claws, Mrs. Claws, Demented Elves, Jack Frost, Snowman, Rabid Reindeer.

http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/MCF10796.jpg

[Samhain]

fairy tales where pretty twisted to start off with, so maybe they've just come full circle, which, tales do you think have been twisted in the below figures?
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/MCF10261.jpg

[CrucifiedDreams]

Yeah, they aren't really my thing.

[TARABELLE]

fairy tales where pretty twisted to start off with, so maybe they've just come full circle, which, tales do you think have been twisted in the below figures?
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/MCF10261.jpg
Well, there's Little Red Riding Hood and Cinderella, and maybe Little Miss Muffet but the rest are mysteries to me.............

And gruesome to say the least, who collects those?

[Samhain]

Well, there's Little Red Riding Hood and Cinderella, and maybe Little Miss Muffet but the rest are mysteries to me.............

And gruesome to say the least, who collects those?
you have two right, but none of them are cinders!
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[Samhain]

I'm glad you said you hated them, otherwise you may have found one in my suitcase!
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[IlUvMuSIc]

Is one of them Hansel and Gretel?? Or am i thinking of something else?? And why are all the women so slutty?? Sheesh Im guessing they dont wear that ALL the time... There should be slutty guys too otherwise thats just sexist!! ;-)

[Skip]

Where does this OBSESSION over HORROR come from?

Why is there SO MUCH violence being portrayed in everything from TV to cinema to toys?

It's now worse than ever in my lifetime.

Is it supposed to desensitize children so they can one day grow up to be VIOLENT KILLERS also known as MERCENARIES also known as SOLDIERS?

This is the kind of thinking that was behind the Nazi's SS training. Show a young person the worst kind of violence until they become desensitized.

Then not only they won't think twice about hacking someone into itty bitty pieces, they actually LEARN TO ENJOY IT!

Sadly, there is a very SICK method behind all this madness, and the TARGETS are children and teenagers...

[Samhain]

Where does this OBSESSION over HORROR come from?

Why is there SO MUCH violence being portrayed in everything from TV to cinema to toys?

It's now worse than ever in my lifetime.

Is it supposed to desensitize children so they can one day grow up to be VIOLENT KILLERS also known as MERCENARIES also known as SOLDIERS?

This is the kind of thinking that was behind the Nazi's SS training. Show a young person the worst kind of violence until they become desensitized.

Then not only they won't think twice about hacking someone into itty bitty pieces, they actually LEARN TO ENJOY IT!

Sadly, there is a very SICK method behind all this madness, and the TARGETS are children and teenagers...
I read they are unsuitable for under 12 year olds, however I know what your saying
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[Samhain]

Is one of them Hansel and Gretel?? Or am i thinking of something else?? And why are all the women so slutty?? Sheesh Im guessing they dont wear that ALL the time... There should be slutty guys too otherwise thats just sexist!! ;-)
ok you've guessed 2
the one with the broom is Gretel, the one in the cage is Hansel, Tara guessed the spider to be little miss muffet and the other one to be little red riding hood, so theres just two more too guess, top middle and bottom right
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/MCF10261.jpg

[umm...ya]

Bottom right is peter peter pumpkin eater.

[Samhain]

Bottom right is peter peter pumpkin eater.
correct, so whats top middle then?
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[umm...ya]

It's either Humpty Dumpty or well I don't know what else it could be


(I like them but I have a twisted sense of humor and I love horror movies)

[Samhain]

It's either Humpty Dumpty or well I don't know what else it could be


(I like them but I have a twisted sense of humor and I love horror movies)
your right again, I didn't think we would guess them all.
notice they are called twisted fairy tales, but most are nursery ryhmes, you wouldn't want them in your kids nursery though!
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[umm...ya]

Ya I wouldn't give them to any kid ever.

[Samhain]

Ya I wouldn't give them to any kid ever.
can you imagine saying to mom oh I have a humpty orniment for Freds birthday, then she watches him open it
S

[umm...ya]

can you imagine saying to mom oh I have a humpty orniment for Freds birthday, then she watches him open it
SMy sister had this happen. A a male friend of hers gave my niece gave her a devil chucky doll . She loved it but it now sits in the closet wrapped in a towel because my sister didn't want her playing with anything like that.

[Samhain]

My sister had this happen. A a male friend of hers gave my niece gave her a devil chucky doll . She loved it but it now sits in the closet wrapped in a towel because my sister didn't want her playing with anything like that.
who old is the niece?
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[umm...ya]

she is 3

[mamaKCita]

i fucking LOVE the chicks. the other stuff is really well done, but i don't get it.

[Samhain]

she is 3
I hope her friend was just thoughtless overwise I would have to worry about his mentality
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[umm...ya]

He did it as a joke. He was warned though and has bought her some really good gifts.

[mitten_kitten]

If you don't like those, hows about a twisted Christmas?
Santa Claws, Mrs. Claws, Demented Elves, Jack Frost, Snowman, Rabid Reindeer.

http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/MCF10796.jpgI do like how there is a random whore pole dancing while all these monsters roam about..:D


Dorothy's companions don't look as though they have as much self-doubt as they are supposed to have. Cowardly lion my ass. :D

[Samhain]

I do like how there is a random whore pole dancing while all these mosters roam about..:D


Dorothy's companions don't look as though they have as much self-doubt as they are supposed to have. Cowardly lion my ass. :D
its a whole reworking of the story you get with them, like a different chapter, with each
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[mitten_kitten]

OK. Well, I just think they are stretching a bit. :D

[kitty fabulous]

Is one of them Hansel and Gretel?? Or am i thinking of something else?? And why are all the women so slutty?? Sheesh Im guessing they dont wear that ALL the time... There should be slutty guys too otherwise thats just sexist!! ;-)
absoulutely. demand equal opportunity objectification!

i've seen these figurines.

skip, i do not think that these figurines are by even the farthest stretch of the imagination designed to lure children into becoming violent killers. they are sold in comic book and video game shops, marketed to adults, and in some stores they will not be sold to youngsters. they are not mainstream, mass-marketed toys, they are adult-oriented collector items.

if there's any marketing conspiracy to fear, it is the threat of censorship, and the dumbing-down of creative media like comic books, animated cartoons, and video games, to a "kids only", whitebread american "family-friendly", corporate-controlled and approved, insipid, sugar-coated toxic candyland. underground comics and dark parody have always been with us, and you know it. these figurines are just the 3-D version, a counter-reaction to the denial of the dark violent, and ugly that is enforced by rigid censorship in mainstream media. if these figurines are unacceptable, should we pull the works of goya and others from the galleries as well for being subversive threats?

i'm shocked and dismayed, skip, weren't you the one who was complaining about the media censorship of the horrific images of war? should we deny the horrific images of our own psyches in the same way, until they errupt under the pressure of suppresion into actual violence? gods forbid images of this kind should ever be banned or go away!

declaring these figurines, as unpleasant as we may find them, to be a government conspiracy to produce shild-killers comes from the same mindset that declared the infamous disney parody poster to be a dangerous hippie plot to lure children into having sex and taking drugs.

they're not my thing, but i do undrestand the manifestation of darkness and fears, intertwined with fairy tales modern and old. its a way of processing our dakness and fear. such a process affects my artwork as well, but in a different way. i personally do not like these specific figurines, but i like that they exist, and i think the artist executed (pardon the pun) them well, even if the subject matter is not to my personal taste.

as an aside, i am not going to participate in "what's the world coming to" moaning and complaining sessions because they have been happening for generations, and seldom change anything, whether i like it or not.

[purpolstar]

they are verry unique,and interesting i like them,they did a verry good job on the art of the toys,the faces look verry real.

[themnax]

the poison elves, lower left most recent sample picture before this post, remind me of rp gamers themselves. the killer 'santa' with gas mask and steel claws, personifies how i, and i would immagine much of the rest of the world, views much if not most, of america's forign policy! the pole dancer seems harmless. i've never understood the backward headed big deal people make, objecting to female sex drive and hormones. generally made by guys. and i'm a guy. and i still don't see it.

i think the only real sickness is promoting the romantacizing and rewarding of aggressiveness. most artists, those i've met, this is not their intention. most even realize creativity and intellect are the butt of it. but, yes there are some, a few, over the years for various reasons become embittered.

there is this culture that these things sort of exemplify, but like gangsta rap, they are a symtom and an expression of that symptom, rather then any sort of motivating force behind it.

true, i think subtle ly they can and do, to a degree contribute to perpetuating it, but so does, far more so, the repression of adolescent sexuality, along with a lot of other things considered right and proper and even good for people. like beliefs that promote the pretense of hierarchy being inhierently bennificent. or economic intrests being bennificial and realitively harmless or at least their harmfulness being worth and justified by their supposed rewards.

and the desensitization problem, that is a real one. a very real one. but it comes not from seeing the worst, but from being prevented from seeing anything else, precisely the way media sensorship alows violence, even the romatacising of violence, while any sort of real sexual gratification is utterly verbotten!

i also see the repression of adolescent sexuality, as contributing directly and totally gratuitously to that desensitization.

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