Where is God?

[BudToker]

I have been having a very very rough time lately. If you want to read about what is going wrong, go to this thread: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248458

I am not trying to bash on Christianity when I say this:
Where is God for me? I do not feel him. I feel abandoned, in fact I actually feel the absence of God. Why is God making all these things go wrong in my life at once? Why is he trying to make me want to give up on life? I understand a lot of these things happen in life and others have it worse than me, but why is it all going wrong at once? Why would God do this to me if he loves and cares for me? I just feel kind of numb inside, a little sad, a little angry, mostly numb.

The reason I am posting this here is that instead of the "Christianity" section is because I do not want the simple answer from anti-Christians saying things like, "God is not there", etc.

[rebelfight420]

[QUOTE=BudToker"God is not there", etc.[/QUOTE]
:jester:

[rebelfight420]

jk

Find your own God he is everywhere Meditate and try to relax try to avoid talking or associating yourself with your dad if he makes you angry. Visit your grandparents often and be with them as often as possible. Pray and try to relax take life easy for a while.

[rebelfight420]

Oh and as for your dad being lazy and unhelpful around the house. Just dont do anything for a few weeks leave your food laying around dont even lift a finger to clean anything make it a haven for critters eventually even the most laziest person will clean so they dont have to sit in filth.

Trust me it works my grandma does it to my grandpa when he is too lazy once he sees the toliet no even being flushed he grabs a broom quick.

[BudToker]

Oh and as for your dad being lazy and unhelpful around the house. Just dont do anything for a few weeks leave your food laying around dont even lift a finger to clean anything make it a haven for critters eventually even the most laziest person will clean so they dont have to sit in filth.

Trust me it works my grandma does it to my grandpa when he is too lazy once he sees the toliet no even being flushed he grabs a broom quick.About my dad: No, he will not do anything. He will leave it for my mom to clean up.

Thank you for the advice but, you are not supposed to be in here. This is a "sanctuary" for Christians and their supporters.

[rebelfight420]

I support christianity and what it stands for however I cannot stand the intolerance that it supporters let happen. Also I didnt realize my post disrespected or in anyway took away from this sanctuary. Next time make a disclaimer about the qualifications people have to have in order to give you advice.

[BudToker]

I support christianity and what it stands for however I cannot stand the intolerance that it supporters let happen. Also I didnt realize my post disrespected or in anyway took away from this sanctuary. Next time make a disclaimer about the qualifications people have to have in order to give you advice.I never said you couldn't give me advice or it wasn't appreciated. I am just saying, this is a forum for Christians and people who support Christianity, and from the posts I have seen you make in the Christianity section, you do not believe in Christianity nor do you support it. Though I may be wrong.

As for my grandparents (I did not catch that part of your post before):
I can not be with them because I have no way to get to them. I have no money and my parents will not pay for my trip. Nor do I have a place to stay if I got there.

[Okiefreak]

I'm reluctant to give out advice, because I don't do it very well and am afraid of putting my foot in it, and I don't think I could do better or as well as rebelfight. But since I'm marginally in the Christian camp and you're asking for our words of support, I'll give it my best shot. I think the typical things Christians often say to people in times of trial can seem really dumb, and maybe mine fall into the same category. You're a young dude like me, and your life is far from over yet. My Christian church buddies say "Welcome adversity". I'm not going to tell you to look at this as a growth experience, but I think there's some truth to the idea that what doesn't kill us will make us stronger. I don't think any Christian in touch with reality can expect immunity from rough times. Even Jesus felt abandoned by God, but his life was still meaningful. Buddhists seem to take comfort in the realization that suffering is an inescapable part of life. I've always liked the beginning of Scott Peck's The Road Less Traveled, where he says Life is difficult, and when you realize that it makes it easier. I know most of the people I mention that to think it's the biggest crock of shit they've ever heard, but it helps me to realize that that's the way it's supposed to be and to accept it. The best I can do is keep you in my prayers. And on the thread for your other post, I suggested that maybe your school or college offers counselling service you might benefit from. And you mentioned the punching bag. Hitting a pillow with a plastic bat works for me. My old man was useless drunk too, and used to beat me and my mom with a belt and tell me I wasn't worth the powder to blow me up. But he's not here any more (no, I didn't kill him), and my life is a lot better. He mellowed in his old age, and we actually had some good times. Hope things work out for you. Hang in there, man.

[BudToker]

Thanks man. I know it is inevitable for these things to happen. I accept that they happen. BUt it doesn't make it any less painful or depressing. I wish these things could have happened one at a time because I know I could have delt with them. But all this shit is happening at the same time and it is over bearing. What is even worse is I can't comfort myself with religion because I still need to find what I believe in. I wish I could just pray and find God, get a big warming hug from Jesus in my thoughts, but I can't...I just don't feel their presence. I actually feel their absence which is even more depressing, painful, and disconcerting. I used to feel something, some sort of higher being, I have even wrestled with the idea of a Christian God and Jesus many times. I have even turned to God and Jesus a few times when I felt like this and was being raised a Christian. But now...now I just feel abandonded by whatever higher being there is.

[RELAYER]

Krsna said that sometimes he takes away everything from
a person in order to show them how much love and mercy
He has for them.

[BudToker]

Krsna said that sometimes he takes away everything from
a person in order to show them how much love and mercy
He has for them.Yeah? Where is the love and mercy? I feel non of it.

[RELAYER]

Yeah? Where is the love and mercy? I feel non of it.
Perhaps your trying to feel God with your
thoughts, rather than through the conciousness
of your soul.
BudToker, you know me well enough to know
that I would not throw a quote out at you
that would be non sense.
Nor would I throw a quote out at you that
was so simply understood with thought.

We are riding a wave of life, and it is filled
with ups and downs.
With every physical pleasure, pain always
follows close behind like a shadow.

Honestly, I didnt decide to practice Bhakti Yoga
and become God-realized until I spent time
in prison.
And that is when I lost everything, my fiance,
my car, my apartment, my money, and my
freedom.
I kept my son, and pursued God.
And I found my Self.

[BudToker]

Perhaps your trying to feel God with your
thoughts, rather than through the conciousness
of your soul.
BudToker, you know me well enough to know
that I would not throw a quote out at you
that would be non sense.
Nor would I throw a quote out at you that
was so simply understood with thought.

We are riding a wave of life, and it is filled
with ups and downs.
With every physical pleasure, pain always
follows close behind like a shadow.

Honestly, I didnt decide to practice Bhakti Yoga
and become God-realized until I spent time
in prison.
And that is when I lost everything, my fiance,
my car, my apartment, my money, and my
freedom.
I kept my son, and pursued God.
And I found my Self.You may be right. I try to look for God, but I fear I think too much rather than feel, as you say. I am too based in logic and if I can not find God logically I do not think I ever will. I am semi-spiritual but not nearly as much as I would like to be. I don't think I ever will be, but I will keep trying. I realize life has ups and downs, but that knowledge doesn't make the downs any easier.

[RELAYER]

You may be right. I try to look for God, but I fear I think too much rather than feel, as you say. I am too based in logic and if I can not find God logically I do not think I ever will. I am semi-spiritual but not nearly as much as I would like to be. I don't think I ever will be, but I will keep trying. I realize life has ups and downs, but that knowledge doesn't make the downs any easier.
True, that knowledge will not make life any easier.
But, may I ask if you spend a lot of time worried
about your inescure future, or dwelling on the
pains of the past?
The reason I ask is because one very easy concept
to grasp that will help overcome such confusion is
to simply exist, at the present moment, in every
moment, to moment.
Just let go, flow on through life. When your thoughts
become overwhelming or over bearing, just try and
let them go through you, rather than trying to
grab at them and control them :)

[BudToker]

True, that knowledge will not make life any easier.
But, may I ask if you spend a lot of time worried
about your inescure future, or dwelling on the
pains of the past?
The reason I ask is because one very easy concept
to grasp that will help overcome such confusion is
to simply exist, at the present moment, in every
moment, to moment.
Just let go, flow on through life. When your thoughts
become overwhelming or over bearing, just try and
let them go through you, rather than trying to
grab at them and control them :)
Yeah, I am not really worrying anymore. I am just sorta numb. Don't really care about much. Don't really feel pain or anything right now...

[RELAYER]

Yeah, I am not really worrying anymore. I am just sorta numb. Don't really care about much. Don't really feel pain or anything right now...
Man, you are a very bright guy, you know that?
Im not here to tell anyone what to do.
But, well there is no practice life you know?
This is your chance man, every wasted moment
never comes back.
I just hope you find happyness again man,
as bad as things get, life goes up and down...

[BudToker]

Man, you are a very bright guy, you know that?
Im not here to tell anyone what to do.
But, well there is no practice life you know?
This is your chance man, every wasted moment
never comes back.
I just hope you find happyness again man,
as bad as things get, life goes up and down...Meh...I think I'd rather be numb. Not feeling happyness or sadness, just nuetrality. I am sure I will be happy again one day, but until then I am fine where I'm at now. Not depressed anymore, so that's good.
BTW, thanks for the compliment. You are a good guy and you are very wise.

[RELAYER]

Well bro, cant blame me for trying right? :tongue:
I wish you nothing but the most happyness and
peace towards you.
Good luck my friend.
John~

[BudToker]

Well bro, cant blame me for trying right? :tongue:
I wish you nothing but the most happyness and
peace towards you.
Good luck my friend.
John~Thank you. I appreciate you trying and I wish you the same. Good luck to you as well.

[RELAYER]

Much love bro!
Im always willing to talk if you want
but you already know that :tongue:

[rebelfight420]

zoloft

[smokindude]

ice cream truck

[Okiefreak]

I have been having a very very rough time lately. If you want to read about what is going wrong, go to this thread: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248458

I am not trying to bash on Christianity when I say this:
Where is God for me? I do not feel him. I feel abandoned, in fact I actually feel the absence of God. Why is God making all these things go wrong in my life at once? Why is he trying to make me want to give up on life? I understand a lot of these things happen in life and others have it worse than me, but why is it all going wrong at once? Why would God do this to me if he loves and cares for me? I just feel kind of numb inside, a little sad, a little angry, mostly numb.

The reason I am posting this here is that instead of the "Christianity" section is because I do not want the simple answer from anti-Christians saying things like, "God is not there", etc.
Hey, man. We haven't heard from you for awhile, and you were kind of depressed when we did. Are you ok? We care about you.

[Nikalaus]

Dood... uhmm... wow... I really dont know what to say... he's there trust me on that. All I can do is hope you experience some of whut i have experienced so you can come to understand some of the basic laws this universe runs by...

I strongly recommend you See or read "THE SECRET"

it's a START.

:P