Why are americans so fucking paranoid about talking about there drug experiances

[TRIP TO ECLIPSE]

why the fuck are all you americans so shit scared about talking about your drug experiances. I went on one site called drugs forum and everyone was using this shit swim every two minutes.I finally worked out what it meant somebody who isnt me.The land of the free bullshit i thoght britain was a shithole but we and most of western europe obviously have a lot more freedom than you you cant even use your own names to talk about your drug experiances.I posted one question about mdma and they thoght it was a undercover pig.Fuck me these people are either living under some crazy system or there just paranoid little kids. What a bunch of drug naive little pricks they probbaly dont no the difference between mdma and mdea or mda or mmda or 2cb or 2ci or 2ct7 or dob. There all phenythelamines children.

[mamaKCita]

because we live in a police state.

[soaringeagle]

hahahaha your odviosly kinda close minded
first off noones paraniod about talking about theyre experiences they are just smart
let me guess the mdma post was the 1st post you made of your whopping 13 posts? every1 onhere from uk or usa doesnt matter where your from but if your 1st post is where can i buy....... theyre gonna assume theres a possibility ypur a cop..or just stupid..its not paranioa its safety.. any1 dumb enough to say yea i'll sell ya some desserves to be busted..lol
do you call random phone numbers when looking for weed or do you go to who you know & trust?
right now thats what you are, a random number, noone knows who you are or why your here..that changes over time as people get to know ya & what your about
& it has nothing to do ith uk/usa arbitrary borders but the inteligence to know that just cause you ask about drugs on a drug forum does not mean your a best freind you can trust..lol

[phoenix_indigo]

yeah, i'm in complete agreement with Soaring Eagle. (*waves at SE*)

if you had a few more posts under your belt (for instance weren't a "guest" anymore) then people would probably all be willing to talk about drug experiences with you. believe me, there is plenty of talk about drugs and such swimmin around. but to open up posting trying to get people to talk about such things, and no one knows you yet.

so, try to post to others comments or share your experiences and get your post count up. ;) might sound a bit elitest, but there are some things people don't like sharing with people they don't know who don't have a history.

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No actually the question was do you no anyone thats taken mdma because most pills in the uk contain a concuction of phenythelamies or if your lucky you might get the more trippier mda.For instance ive got a shit load of pure bzp pills and most people i know wouldnt know the difference between that and mdma or the other shit pretending to be it. ecstacy tablets have been highly impure since 1992 in the uk at least.And from what i read of the american reports i read it aint much different.Icertainly wouldnt be asking for mdma online as the shit sold on the streets is as much mdma as it is a mass of different phenythelamines. that i could get any time anywhere

[Duck]

cause they are idiots

Americans are quite paranoid and over-dramatic you will notice

[subHerban Greens]

I could go off on you about the UK but I'm not. Anyway... can we get the link to post to understand more? And also it probably is because you are new there(like others have said). I remember one time someone here was asking about weed and he got crucified with "pig" and "haha nice try cop." By the way, who cares about what the differences are among mdma or mdea or mda or mmda or 2cb or 2ci or 2ct7 or dob. I say fuck chemicals.

[TRIP TO ECLIPSE]

you are obviously into getting high not exploring your mind read pihkal by shulgin.These chemicals aint for the faint hearted.

[subHerban Greens]

Exploring my mind? I might try acid sometime. But I don't think I'll ever do any other chems.

[taoflipflower]

Trip to Eclipse, your ego (as presented in this thread) is huge. Are you administering the right drugs and techniques?
Humility is a difficult one to master but it helps a great deal with objective analysis.
All the best.

[soaringeagle]

if the purpose is exploring the mind mdma , & chemicals in general are absolutely the wrong route to take, some like lsd can open your mind to self exploration, however they do not offer real insights into your mind.. exploring your mind requires clarity of mind, meditation & self exploration.. chemicals offer a way to alter the mind not explore it

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the fact that you believe americans are different from brits proves you havent explored your mind much at all

if youve explored your mind so thoroughly, please enlighten me how your mind is so much more developed then mine, then please explain how place of birth affected this evolutionary development

[Power_13]

if youve explored your mind so thoroughly, please enlighten me how your mind is so much more developed then mine, then please explain how place of birth affected this evolutionary development

Oh, that's easy. All you've got to do to see the development advantage being born in the UK provides is look at the evolution of the dinosaur fossils we find over here.

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=35078&stc=1

[mamaKCita]

frankly, this thread is making me terribly nervous....what if someone READS it?

you know, SOMEONE, THEY...the big scary THEY....

[paulfreespirit]

if the purpose is exploring the mind mdma , & chemicals in general are absolutely the wrong route to take, some like lsd can open your mind to self exploration, however they do not offer real insights into your mind.. exploring your mind requires clarity of mind, meditation & self exploration.. chemicals offer a way to alter the mind not explore it

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the fact that you believe americans are different from brits proves you havent explored your mind much at all

if youve explored your mind so thoroughly, please enlighten me how your mind is so much more developed then mine, then please explain how place of birth affected this evolutionary development exactly soaringeagle ........ shame . maybe you should think that when labelling other people as all the same whoever they maybe....................peace

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No i think your mistaken egotism with a massive knowledge of psychoactive drugs.You should never use humility to mask your knowledge and intelligence.Because then you would be a only displaying half of your knowledge.Say what you think and believe fuck pollitcal correctness and what people think.At the end of the day look what people with got governing this planet.The world is the biggest lunatic asylum in the universe and the lunatics have taken over the asylum.It appears not enough people have the balls to speak out and question this totally corrupt and undemocratic world.There is not one true democracy on this planet there are just varying degrees of freedom.

[zen_arcade]

why the fuck are all you americans so shit scared about talking about your drug experiances. I went on one site called drugs forum and everyone was using this shit swim every two minutes.I finally worked out what it meant somebody who isnt me.The land of the free bullshit i thoght britain was a shithole but we and most of western europe obviously have a lot more freedom than you you cant even use your own names to talk about your drug experiances.I posted one question about mdma and they thoght it was a undercover pig.Fuck me these people are either living under some crazy system or there just paranoid little kids. What a bunch of drug naive little pricks they probbaly dont no the difference between mdma and mdea or mda or mmda or 2cb or 2ci or 2ct7 or dob. There all phenythelamines children.

I might be an American.

but I'm still smarter than you, or at least I learned proper English in school. and I'm not nearly as much of a drug dork. :&

[fountains of nay]

hahahaha your odviosly kinda close minded
first off noones paraniod about talking about theyre experiences they are just smart
let me guess the mdma post was the 1st post you made of your whopping 13 posts? every1 onhere from uk or usa doesnt matter where your from but if your 1st post is where can i buy....... theyre gonna assume theres a possibility ypur a cop..or just stupid..its not paranioa its safety.. any1 dumb enough to say yea i'll sell ya some desserves to be busted..lol
do you call random phone numbers when looking for weed or do you go to who you know & trust?
right now thats what you are, a random number, noone knows who you are or why your here..that changes over time as people get to know ya & what your about
& it has nothing to do ith uk/usa arbitrary borders but the inteligence to know that just cause you ask about drugs on a drug forum does not mean your a best freind you can trust..lol
Well said dude!
This guy obviously wants people to praise him for his knowledge of drugs. WELL DONE!! *gives him a pat on the back* Now, what more do you want, a medal?

[dhARmaMiLlO]

No i think your mistaken egotism with a massive knowledge of psychoactive drugs..knowledge does not automatically give wisdom. The latter of which you seem to be lacking in from the chest beating & preaching rants that pass for your posts. ;)

Objectivity is harder to use when you subjectively alter your tools of perception. I understand how drugs can aid someone - but they are a shortcut to what can already be achieved. Like a chemical crutch for the mind; use them too much and you can't 'walk' without them.

[soaringeagle]

knowledge does not automatically give wisdom. The latter of which you seem to be lacking in from the chest beating & preaching rants that pass for your posts. ;)

Objectivity is harder to use when you subjectively alter your tools of perception. I understand how drugs can aid someone - but they are a shortcut to what can already be achieved. Like a chemical crutch for the mind; use them too much and you can't 'walk' without them.damn well said
im impressed

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No not looking for a medal or a pat on the back just trying to educate the naive.You live in acountry where the stuff your told about drugs is utter bullshit like for instance ecstacy causes holes in the brain. And then i hear the us is trialing mdma in the treatment of pts [post traumatic strees disorder]. which is a good thing this drug is a great treatment in that field.As for drugs being a crutch that is some serious bullshit why would you want to get out of bed at dawn go to some bullshit job that doesnt inspire you creativly. when you could lay in bed till noon get up get high and learn to play the guitar. this is reality as i see it you can either fell good or you can feel bad if it makes you feel good to go to some crappy 9 to 5 job having someone telling you what to do thats your call it aint for me drugs are just a short cut to feeling good and many drugs are actually gonna produce feelings that are outside the realm of normal conciousness.And can give you important insights into personal matters. As for a comment about my english im not verry fast at typing so when i spot a mistake im not gonna go all the back deleting everything.Anyway its not how you say somthing its what you say as for the comments about my rambling no its not rambling its called intelligence and thinking for yourself.For instance have you ever really formed your own opinions.Most people think they have but you go to school at five or what ever and are told what to think and how to act.For instance im agnostic but if i was born in saudi arabia i would be a muslim because thats what the society around me would expect that would be my conditioning from birth.Question everything. Your just drunes for big corporations scum risses. look at the world today all the wars and corruption the world is run by warped psychopaths with little or no feeling for there fellow man they would do well to take a drug such as mescaline or lsd they might have there first contact with empathy.

[zen_arcade]

Anyway its not how you say somthing its what you say as for the comments about my rambling no its not rambling its called intelligence and thinking for yourself.For instance have you ever really formed your own opinions.Most people think they have but you go to school at five or what ever and are told what to think and how to act.For instance im agnostic but if i was born in saudi arabia i would be a muslim because thats what the society around me would expect that would be my conditioning from birth.Question everything. Your just drunes for big corporations scum risses. look at the world today all the wars and corruption the world is run by warped psychopaths with little or no feeling for there fellow man they would do well to take a drug such as mescaline or lsd they might have there first contact with empathy.

first of all, I'm a nihilist, which is a viewpoint I've taken on after years of independant philosophical research. and being unable to spell or properly phrase a sentence isn't a big deal, everyone slips, but you're ineptitude makes you come off completely uncultured, so that makes it kind of difficult for me to acknowledge your superiority. I'd advise you look up the different meanings of the words 'there', 'they're' and 'their', since they aren't interchangable. and I already know quite a bit more about drugs than what I hear on TV; you know, we have the same internet in the States as you folks across the pond.

[paulfreespirit]

i find it quite funny that soaring eagles comes here and trys to preach to anybody that he thinks he can preach to but hypocritacally ignores people who try to have a conversation with him ..............oh soaring you dissapoint me man .

[mamaKCita]

first of all, I'm a nihilist, which is a viewpoint I've taken on after years of independant philosophical research. and being unable to spell or properly phrase a sentence isn't a big deal, everyone slips, but you're ineptitude makes you come off completely uncultured, so that makes it kind of difficult for me to acknowledge your superiority. I'd advise you look up the different meanings of the words 'there', 'they're' and 'their', since they aren't interchangable. and I already know quite a bit more about drugs than what I hear on TV; you know, we have the same internet in the States as you folks across the pond.
on an amusing sidenote, you used the incorrect "your." the one you used is for "you are." *snicker* it just made me laugh a teensy bit, given your rant.

[TRIP TO ECLIPSE]

Couldnt care less about the correct way to use the english launguage.Its not somthing that really bothers me there are more important things going on in the world.Then climbing the crappy pathetic social ladder.I wouldnt want to go around with so called cultured middle class people i think there weak and generally retarded they kiss ass and talk shit all there lifes they rarely form there own opinions. Thats why they rise scum rises.Anyway i dont need to write much doing the work i do well more of a hobbie actually selling legal highs . So keep climbing that social ladder with the other spineless so called cultured ones dont kiss to much ass and take to much shit on the way.You never no you might end up reaching the top of the social cultured ladder and end up running the country. Like that highly cultured intelligent man youve got running the country now george bush haha. the scariest thing is retard so called cultured intelligent people voted that moron in. the scary thing is this inept retard has his finger on the nuclear button. Keep living that american dream one day you could be like him.

[Gruff]

After reading this thread, I'm kinda glad I don't do drugs. It obviously gives people a closed mind, a false sense of importance and a weird take on reality.

[AncientHippie]

why the fuck are all you americans so shit scared about talking about your drug experiances. I went on one site called drugs forum and everyone was using this shit swim every two minutes.I finally worked out what it meant somebody who isnt me.The land of the free bullshit i thoght britain was a shithole but we and most of western europe obviously have a lot more freedom than you you cant even use your own names to talk about your drug experiances.I posted one question about mdma and they thoght it was a undercover pig.Fuck me these people are either living under some crazy system or there just paranoid little kids. What a bunch of drug naive little pricks they probbaly dont no the difference between mdma and mdea or mda or mmda or 2cb or 2ci or 2ct7 or dob. There all phenythelamines children.
First: So much anger! Eeeeeasy big fella. :chill:

Second: Americans do this. Brits do that. Blacks are this way. Stoners always are blah, blah, blah. As long as that keeps up, prejudice wins out. Take a look at each individual's character, not where they happed to be born.

[zen_arcade]

on an amusing sidenote, you used the incorrect "your." the one you used is for "you are." *snicker* it just made me laugh a teensy bit, given your rant.

quite an impressive observation, but I actually have what I consider a valid excuse for that: I started writing "you're inept" or something like that, then changed it, and I overlooked the fact that I hadn't changed the correct spelling for the new context.

[Power_13]

I seem to be developing a habit of using the wrong "your". I know which is which, but sometimes I'll be writing something and I'll just automatically type the wrong one.

I think it's a sign of old age. :tongue:

[TRIP TO ECLIPSE]

You obviously cant counter act my aguments so you just talk grammar.I cant be bothered to post to people if there not gonna counter act me in augument.Keep reading your dictionaries i thoght this was a hip forum and your talking about grammar you square geeky little twats

[Power_13]

:chill:

You're in the UK forum section. It's a little different here to the rest of the forum. Lurk more.

[zen_arcade]

You obviously cant counter act my aguments so you just talk grammar.I cant be bothered to post to people if there not gonna counter act me in augument.Keep reading your dictionaries i thoght this was a hip forum and your talking about grammar you square geeky little twats

I don't even know what your argument is. you don't know me from Adam, so what's with that scathing, incoherent attack (if that was directed at me)?

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Oh yeah just realised the spelling mistake on argument.Oh yeah that was directed at you but not just you.As for my diction i couldnt care because ive got enough money a job if you could call it that.I bassically work when and if i can be bothered and ive got my own place and have done since i was 19 i bet you still live at home with your mum and dad oh and have to work all day five days a week.Yeah and in england moms spelt with a u

[zen_arcade]

Oh yeah just realised the spelling mistake on argument.Oh yeah that was directed at you but not just you.As for my diction i couldnt care because ive got enough money a job if you could call it that.I bassically work when and if i can be bothered and ive got my own place and have done since i was 19 i bet you still live at home with your mum and dad oh and have to work all day five days a week.Yeah and in england moms spelt with a u

look man, you don't know me! and even if you were correct in your assumptions (I'm not saying you are) why would it even make any difference?

[TRIP TO ECLIPSE]

Well in one thread you said you were more intelligent than me which is not the case at all.Im crap at diction fair enough.But i would say im for more intelligent than you and certainly more mature.See your the one that started the bitchin.I dont start kiddie bitchy little games im past that playground little bitch talk.As for someone whos so intellectual you cant seem to have any kind of debate without resorting to petty bitchin.The reason i bought up whether or not you live at home with your parents is because for someone who claims to be so intelligent you dont seem to be doing very well living at home with your parents is sad at 21.And you can say thats not the case but by your reaction i know you live at home with your parents.AS for a spelling mistake i have noticed it but cant be bothered to rectify it the rest if youve got your dictionary out in front of you i couldnt care about legitimate mistakes

[zen_arcade]

I'm not the one acting like a hyped-up fourteen year old who can't handle their ritalin.

[TRIP TO ECLIPSE]

No its called a debate you started. the bitchin about my spelling because you cant seem to hold down any kind of intelligent conversation.As i have noticed by your pathetic ill thought out one or two line responces.So i may as well drop down to your intellectual capacity. so heres my little one liner.I think thats your mum calling you she knows your awake on the computer past your bed time.

[subHerban Greens]

No its called a debate you started. the bitchin about my spelling because you cant seem to hold down any kind of intelligent conversation.As i have noticed by your pathetic ill thought out one or two line responces.So i may as well drop down to your intellectual capacity. so heres my little one liner.I think thats your mum calling you she knows your awake on the computer past your bed time.
Lower your intellectual capacity? That's the first plain old meaningless inslult that I saw in this thread. And who did it come from? You! So maybe we should be the ones dropping to your intellectual capacity. I'm not going to use any of the insults that I have in my mind because that would offend all British, and I like some Brits. Anyway, I'm pretty sure you weren't speaking specifically to me, but I got to look out for my fellow American.

[TRIP TO ECLIPSE]

Mind your own buisness needle dick.

[subHerban Greens]

Mind your own buisness needle dick.Hahaha!!! That actually made me snicker. It was just so random and immature.

[TRIP TO ECLIPSE]

Yeah i know cant really be bothered to have a serious conversation with someone who thinks his fighting some kind of trans atlantic war with his american comrade.Whats more do you seriously think i would care if you insulted british people i couldnt give a shit i personally think britain is a fucking shithole. I would probally laugh

[Piney]

why the fuck are all you americans so shit scared about talking about your drug experiances. .I posted one question about mdma and they thoght it was a undercover pig.Fuck me these people are either living under some crazy system or there just paranoid little kids. What a bunch of drug naive little pricks they probbaly dont no the difference between mdma and mdea or mda or mmda or 2cb or 2ci or 2ct7 or dob. There all phenythelamines children.
Yeah. I'm very naive. wouldn't be much of a conversation.

[subHerban Greens]

Yeah i know cant really be bothered to have a serious conversation with someone who thinks his fighting some kind of trans atlantic war with his american comrade.Whats more do you seriously think i would care if you insulted british people i couldnt give a shit i personally think britain is a fucking shithole. I would probally laugh
I'm not talking about the place. I'm talking about the people. But if the place is a shithole... I'll take your word for it. I'm not holding back my insults for your benefit! Haha! Funny you thought that. I'm holding my insults back because I don't want to make a general statement that would offend all British.


...and here's where I'm done with this thread...

[TRIP TO ECLIPSE]

No dude i dont think your to good at reading im not talking about the scenery im talking about the people.

[mamaKCita]

I seem to be developing a habit of using the wrong "your". I know which is which, but sometimes I'll be writing something and I'll just automatically type the wrong one.

I think it's a sign of old age. :tongue:
still, i snickered. i thank you. i do that all the time with the 'yours.'

[zen_arcade]

...and here's where I'm done with this thread...

that makes two of us.

it's been a pleasure, trip_to_eclipse, but please do not talk to me again until you come to grips with your problems.

[mbworkrelated]

I seem to be developing a habit of using the wrong "your". I know which is which, but sometimes I'll be writing something and I'll just automatically type the wrong one.

I think it's a sign of old age. :tongue:

I fall down sometimes on things like that - I think it is just a bit of lazyness and a touch of haste.
I do sometimes go back on myself and correct myself once I have stepped back for a while and read it again.
I've decided to dispense with the majority of punctuation and just use - . .

Why do the UK posters not bang on about their drug habits ?
Either they are too stoned to talk about or they have already many many times - so don't feel the need to go over it again and again - anyhoo that is what Peace Phoenix said to me once.

[dapablo]

Get the key to the door and they know the cure to all the worlds ails, it would be sweet if it weren't so pathetic. Honestly droping drugs won't save anyone or anything, it'll just leave you sitting quiet in the corner as the world passes you by.

[Gruff]

it'll just leave you sitting quiet in the corner as the world passes you by.You talking 'bout me again??


ps..Who nicked my sig??

[dapablo]

You talking 'bout me again??
I distinctly told you to keep away from those aspirin now didn't I.




and it weren't me, type it in again, you might of dreamed it.




and I'm still waiting for the poll to appear :)

[Gruff]

I distinctly told you to keep away from those aspirin now didn't I.Cool, I wondered what those little white smarties were:H




and it weren't me, type it in again, you might of dreamed it..
Dreamed what man!!!!!!!




and I'm still waiting for the poll to appear :)

This I found...look outside your house, theym 'olding up the wires for your phone an' 'lectric..http://hipforums.com/forums/images/icons/newicons/crazy.gif

[mamaKCita]

who else thinks zen arcade and trip to eclipse get the silly school boy argument of the year award? a show of hands? maybe not.

[mellowthyme]

why the fuck are all you americans so shit scared about talking about your drug experiances. I went on one site called drugs forum and everyone was using this shit swim every two minutes.I finally worked out what it meant somebody who isnt me.The land of the free bullshit i thoght britain was a shithole but we and most of western europe obviously have a lot more freedom than you you cant even use your own names to talk about your drug experiances.I posted one question about mdma and they thoght it was a undercover pig.Fuck me these people are either living under some crazy system or there just paranoid little kids. What a bunch of drug naive little pricks they probbaly dont no the difference between mdma and mdea or mda or mmda or 2cb or 2ci or 2ct7 or dob. There all phenythelamines children.Only thickos come out with crap like this!!!!!

There's enough arrogant stupid people in this country to match those in America, the only difference is I'm not talking about percentages which means we have a lot more idiots who think they are sophisticated and cultured, it's all BOLLOCKS!!!!! We are becoming worse than the middle class arrogant yanks because our own working class are beginning to get above their station when displaying shite like this.

[Quoth the Raven]

Get the key to the door and they know the cure to all the worlds ails, it would be sweet if it weren't so pathetic. Honestly droping drugs won't save anyone or anything, it'll just leave you sitting quiet in the corner as the world passes you by.
Hey... don't diss my corner ;)

[dapablo]

Hey... don't diss my corner ;)It was mine first. :)