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[gertie]

i could really use some other bi chicks or guys to talk. alot of times i think it would be so much easier to be just gay or straight. as it is i'm neither.

[Snowdancer]

I have had gays snub me once they find out I'm bi. Straights, well thats somehow easier to take. For me anyhow. It still sucks but at least I can write it off to homophobia.

I'm not the only bi around here. There are a few of us. You aren't alone atleast in this corner of cyberspace.

i could really use some other bi chicks or guys to talk. alot of times i think it would be so much easier to be just gay or straight. as it is i'm neither.

[monosphere]

I'm another that doesn't discriminate in regards to gender. Feel free to PM me anytime. Although I have to say that most of the gays/lesbians in here are wonderful people and you shouldn't feel uncomfortable approaching them. If not, then I'm still here. Give me a shout and I'll respond as soon as humanly possible.

Bri

[PhotoGra1]

I am gay, and I admit that I do not understand bisexuality. That being said, I do not care if you or anyone else is bisexual, or hetero/homo. I just accept people as they are, sometimes it is not necessary to understand. Just have respect, empathy, compassion, and love for other human beings, it sounds corny, but thats what I think people need.
At any rate, I would be glad to help you if I can. I am not bi, but I am very open minded.

[rocknroll_girl]

Brian, you said LESBO, you fucking faggo! tee hee


i hate the word lesbo with a firy passion that consumes my soul, which is unfortunate, as i like all other slang.

bi people rock my world, it's all good, terrible shit though that in the gay community (dykes especially) being bi gives you a bad wrap. it leads to girls who are actually bi to say they're gay just to enter relationships with women, and then there's all this confusion over "lesbians who sleep with men" and the like. stupid.

but "bisexual oppression" is not NEARLY as serious or awful as the gay community's response to transgenderism until recently. terrible stuff. different topic for a different time.

[monosphere]

Brian, you said LESBO, you fucking faggo! tee hee


i hate the word lesbo with a firy passion that consumes my soul, which is unfortunate, as i like all other slang.
Okay, you fucking tuna tittilator!:p I've changed my quote JUST FOR YOU! I don't do that for just anyone. In return, you must now post more pics of yourself for us forumers to see. I thought that prom pic was very cute, but I wanna see more Eliza!! Although that date of yours wasn't too shabby looking either.;) If only I were young again...

bi people rock my world, it's all good, terrible shit though that in the gay community (dykes especially) being bi gives you a bad wrap. it leads to girls who are actually bi to say they're gay just to enter relationships with women, and then there's all this confusion over "lesbians who sleep with men" and the like. stupid.
It's a bit different for the guys. Most bi guys are seen as being gay guys who occasionally have sex with women. Even some of the gay community has seen us bi's as beign gays who haven't completely come out yet. Too many people saying that bisexuality doesn't exist for men. Pure and utter bullshit. Why do I have to choose which one i like? Can't I like chocolate AND vanilla ice cream? apples AND oranges? Should I stop with the food references?

but "bisexual oppression" is not NEARLY as serious or awful as the gay community's response to transgenderism until recently. terrible stuff. different topic for a different time.
That's an interesting topic to tackle. I'll have to read a little more about it as I don't completely understand it. But it would be a welcome change of topic from the usual threads here.

Eliza- Sorry. Didn't mean to offend. You know I love ya.

Bri

[Stalkz]

It's pretty fucking stupid to see a homosexual feel superior becaues of his/her sexuality to a bisexual person... and then turn around and bitch about opression...


Gay people are definitely NOT in the place to judge anyone because of their sexuality while they're fighting for sexual freedom. It's pretty pathetic.

Anyways, I'm "bi". Most people are, and would be a lot more into the "other side" of whatever they're into, if they weren't pressured to pick one side or the other. There's no reason anyone should worry about what another person finds attractive.

Guys don't have tits. (Unless they're really fat and it still doesn't matter then)
Chicks don't have dicks.

So.... if I like both... what do you suggest I do? Supress one desire to fulfill another, so I don't get looked down upon? ....Fuck that... and there aren't that many hermaphrodites running around to pick from..

[velvet]

I think everyone is bi, if they'd only admit it. Lots of teens do, but then they chiken out as they get older. Can't understand going any other way. Just another way of being independant, i guess-especially now that gay is so mainstream.
hmm.. I always said this as well.. and the older I'm getting, the more I doubt this. I always called myself 'theoretically bisexual' since I used to fantasize about both women and men. I have been pretty openminded about being with a girl, but somehow I always ended up with boys.. hence the 'theoretical'. But lately, I've began to wonder if I could ever fall in love with a woman.. and I guess the answer is no. I can find women amazingly attractive, I can love a woman (like a friend).. but I can't fall ìn love with one. I don't know why, but it just seems to be that way. Never say never though.. but I just think it's highly unlikely.

[rocknroll_girl]

Chicks don't have dicks.
au contraire! listen to Tribe 8 :) TRANSGENDER BIAS! BLOODY MURDER!

just kidding.

anywayyys, Bri I wrote back to you and explained that it's no big deal within the queer community. I agree that my prom date was damn sexy, as well as the most beautiful boy inside that I'll ever know in my life and my soul mate. Nickie is a dream (and he's gay, by the way - too bad he's a little young for ya, he's obsessed with Seattle.)

[monosphere]

I agree that my prom date was damn sexy, as well as the most beautiful boy inside that I'll ever know in my life and my soul mate. Nickie is a dream (and he's gay, by the way - too bad he's a little young for ya, he's obsessed with Seattle.)
Now you're just teasing me.

[monosphere]

i could really use some other bi chicks or guys to talk. alot of times i think it would be so much easier to be just gay or straight. as it is i'm neither.
Don't look at it as being neither. Think of it as being both. I kinda like the "cup is half full" approach, but that's me.

[Mui]

im bi too, so if you ever need to talk to someone you can always PM me or IM me =p

[gertie]

i don't feel like i'm both. to say one should look at it that way just doesn't seem to fit, but thank you.

[gertie]

i despise the fact that society is constantly trying to push people into nicely labeled boxes that include sexuality. the problem is our society does that though. no matter how i hate the labels and such, the reality of it is all around. i'm pretty self analytical so far teh closest i have come to comprehending myself or how to explain myself (in such a society) is that i am bi.


in our society, our culture, in this existance what does that mean? the reality that i know within myself is that i am neither gay nor straight. why is shouldn't matter, it does to a point. i know my family will never accept it and be convinced that being bi means i have a choice in the matter.

[FreakyJoeMan]

The whole matter comes down to tha fact that shit's simpler to understand when it's in black an white, when it's one thing or another. Our whole nation is centered around duality; Republicans and Democrats, Liberal and Conservative, Rich and Poor, Smart and Dumb, etc etc etc. Understanding an extreme is heaps easier than understanding a moderate. It's like the pH scale, there're acids and bases, and than there's all that shit in the middle that are gradients of the two.

[ANewLife]

Most of North America's veiw on bi-sexuality and homosexuality come from the Bible. I know most of you may say "What the fuck does he mean?". Well, back in the day when our ancestors immigrated over here they brought there ideas with them. Unfortunatly most of them were God fearing. The Bible looks down upon all forms of homosexuality and that idea has stuck with our socitey for a long time. Someday it will be gone but not in our generation.

[turtlefriend]

What's really sad is that Native Americans had high respect for homosexuality.

Backward, Christian soldiers!

Anyway. . .I guess all you can do is find your niche among those who respect you for whoever you are. If they don't then they aren't worth your time.

I send uber hugs across cyberspace to you, man. Take care!

[Snowdancer]

I agree that there is a great overemphasis towards labeling everything & I would be willing to bet that it bothers you even more because you are a member of the sexuality limbo that us bis exist in. You are right that we are neither gay or straight in the true sense of things. Woody Allen didn't quite get it right when he said "The good thing about being bisexual is that it doubles your chance of a date on a Saturday night." It does double your attraction &, yes, the theoretical possibility of having someone to be with because both genders are represented. I'll be honest here. There are both gays & straights that won't want to get involved long time with a bi. That's not to say that you can't have any fun but it takes a special partner to accept that they can't be all there is for you. All you need. I'm living proof that it does happen but the selection process is harder.

On the other hand you can experience the wonder & joy that both genders can bring to a relationship once you do find partner(s). You can get the best of each. You can truly not only be but also benefit from both the Yin & Yang of relationships. You have both sides of the wheel. Maybe Woody could have said it better if he would have said something like The good thing about being bisexual is that you have reason for two dates on Saturday night.

Of course a biological female's take on this could be far different than mine so there could be an entirely different perspective. Like always, I'm just spewing forth my impression on the subject.

I can't talk for parental units reaction on this. I never had to tell mine. They may know now that they are onto their next lives, I can't say. There are many people who still think that sexuality is some sort of choice we make. :rolleyes:The reason that I never had to tell my parents was that I have always had a relationship with biological females & have been married or in a live in relationship most of my adult life . It does make pretty good cover to be in a relationship with a opposite sex person. Not that that is why I do it it just keeps the inquiring minds at bay is what I was saying. It has always been for love. Naturally if any of my kids told me they were bi or gay or lesbian my reaction would be from a different perspective than a hetero parent so I can''t share any insight on that level either. Sorry.

I do have to say that knowing that you are bi & accepting it empowers you to do with it what you want to. If society wants to tag a label that's the flock's prerogative. Be who you are it is just fine being that.

i despise the fact that society is constantly trying to push people into nicely labeled boxes that include sexuality. the problem is our society does that though. no matter how i hate the labels and such, the reality of it is all around. i'm pretty self analytical so far teh closest i have come to comprehending myself or how to explain myself (in such a society) is that i am bi.


in our society, our culture, in this existance what does that mean? the reality that i know within myself is that i am neither gay nor straight. why is shouldn't matter, it does to a point. i know my family will never accept it and be convinced that being bi means i have a choice in the matter.

[gertie]

there seems to be such added negativity with bi than with gay or lesbian. its saddens me. (to say the bible is against all forms of homosexulity depends on how one reads the few passges involved. i looked up all the passgaes that suppedly talk about it.... most of them didn't even mention it and seemed to actually be about other things.)

[Ocean Byrd]

What's really sad is that Native Americans had high respect for homosexuality.

Backward, Christian soldiers!

Anyway. . .I guess all you can do is find your niche among those who respect you for whoever you are. If they don't then they aren't worth your time.

I send uber hugs across cyberspace to you, man. Take care!

You know what's so ironic/hypocritical about the pilgrims is that they came to America to escape religious persecution.

[gertie]

You know what's so ironic/hypocritical about the pilgrims is that they came to America to escape religious persecution.

they were escaping their own religious persecution, but were not seeking religious freedom... merely religious conformity as long as it followed their own ways.

[honeyhannah]

What I don't understand is why gay people are hateful towards bisexuals (of course its just a few), that is very strange to me.... I personally don't label myself at all, I just say I'm sexual...nothing else, but by society I would be labeled bisexual I guess, well I think it's because of the fad status that it has been given in the media...anyway it's something to ponder...

[Ocean Byrd]

they were escaping their own religious persecution, but were not seeking religious freedom... merely religious conformity as long as it followed their own ways.

Ya, they wanted it their own way, but they converted native americans to their religion; I think they wanted it their own way too.

[gertie]

i find strangness in the idea that a thread about sexual idenity turned into a discussion about the pilgrims.

[piscessunlibramoon19]

I've only been with one man, never been with a woman, so right now I don't know what I "am" except human. That's all anyone is. I hate labels too. If my dad knew I might be interested in being with another female, he'd probably disown me. Screw him though. I love who I love. I love my husband, yes, no sane person can deny him love, but I also think it is possible to love more than one person (although not more than maybe three people at most) and if I were ever to be with another female and enjoyed that, plus had feelings for her and she for me, then I'd be at peace knowing another female loved me, and I'd be happy to share her with my husband and share my husband with her and share myself with her and my husband. I'm not talking about JUST the sexual experience either. Most people assume bisexual people will have sex with anyone, any time, anywhere. I know that's not the case and I wish "straight" people would understand that. They assume the same with gay people: Just because a man is gay, they think it means he's gonna do what he can to have sex with another man, or just because a woman is a lesbian, they think it means she'll do what she can to have sex with another woman. That's sooooo not me! I didn't have sex with my husband until I knew I loved him, and that's how I'd be with a woman too. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

[Nisha]

i completely agree with what yu are saying..b ut what exactly is it in your mind? being attracted to male and females?? what are you gonig to call that gathering of thoughts?

[dibblydowcus]

What's really sad is that Native Americans had high respect for homosexuality. !
I'd be very interested to know where you learned this fact....I'm not being sarcastic, I'd just like to know.

[gertie]

i've heard this before too. (about certain native cultures being more acceptive of homosexuality) this has come from those of my dear friends who have spent years of their life on reservations and have american indian bloodlines.

I'd be very interested to know where you learned this fact....I'm not being sarcastic, I'd just like to know.

[TsuzukiAsato13]

Why do some gay people think that bi's are gay but in denial? I Know I like girls just as much as I like guys.

Maybe some (some) feel like they need a target, since they're always targeted. That's what my uncle's like. But hey, I know that doesn't apply to everyone.