a different world

[snakeyes]

Thank you Peace and you other posters, I guess I can say, for 'inviting' me to share some of my thoughts. I hope to contribute with the intention of keeping a 'running interactive diary of (my) inner mind' and hearing your ideas, because I think lots of you have similar issues and interests. Hopefully we can help each other out because I need help and I also have alot of love to give, if I could only find a way to do it. Maybe this is it, so I give it a try.

Basically, I feel like I live in a different world than everyone else in my life and it's hard because i desire communion, but it's impossible because noone else (I know) seems to believe, like I do, that we are not actually separate individuals, but actually one entity. I'm not stoned now, but yeah, I've taken alot of drugs. That doesn't explain it entirely, because I've always felt the same ever since I was a kid.

My psychiatrist says that I need to want to be well, but I don't, and I can't if that means I'm going to be happy living a 'normal' life in ignorant bliss in this insane world. It's not all doom and gloom folks, because the way I see it is that the world I live in is better than that. I love the world (as I see it) and I love who I am, so I can't change! Thing is, this doesn't seem to help me get on with other people who don't share the same vision.

It's not all sweetness and light either because I have many views which many people will find controversial. And this is why I find it hard to relate to people. eg. Physical death is good and natural. Why do people fear it and try to prevent it?, Men and women have specific and different roles in a healthy society. Millions of years of evolution have made us that way and to try to change that in a few generations is tearing our society apart. Children have no rights to make decisions in their lives. Adults have a duty to guide and protect children. To give children freedom is to abuse them. Democracy is an evil. The rule of the hedonistic, selfish and ignorant masses will cause decadence and self-destruction.

That's a brief summary of where I'm at. Doubtless that I am confused about many things, which is why my life is a mess. I want to learn to live harmoniously with others, but I can't work it out by myself.

Why on earth would anyone want to respond to this? I just read it through and it seems like it's pretty fucked up. Who knows? There may be someone out there who has thoughts on any of these topics, and who can enlighten me? I'm not shy about anything, totally honest and open to any suggestions.

[Peace-Phoenix]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. :)


Democracy is an evil, that's a very interesting statement, I'd like to know more. What do you mean by it exactly?

[snakeyes]

So we are told time and time again by leaders who would use us to give them power to wage wars against our wishes or through our misguided consent, and for what? to increase the wealth of the rich and to perpetuate their monopoly of power and manipulation of the poor for their own ends? - I won't go on about how 'democracy' as we know it is a fallacy, because I actually object to true democracy in principle, not just how it works in practice.

Thanks for giving me a chance to elaborate on this. I am grateful for your open mind, and because you have not just reacted by lashing out or jumping to conclusions.

If democracy worked to reach a consensus of well-considered, socially responsible opinions, then I would agree with it, but I do not believe that the majority of people hold such opinions. I don't agree that one person's opinion is just as valid as another's or therefore, that the utalitarian view, that we should aim for the greatest happiness for the greatest amount of people, is the right view.

I think that the majority of people are ignorant and selfish and that their cumulative will does not promote what is best for the whole. Carbon emissions and global warming is an example. It would be best for the whole if everyone drove cars only when it is essential. Individuals don't want to drive only when essential, so they will not vote for a government which makes it illegal to drive except for essential journeys. A government wishing to stay in power will not make it illegal to drive except when essential although that would be better for the whole.- simple.

our society teaches us to value individual rights and the selfish pursuit of individual rights is detrimental to the wellbeing of the whole. There is no such thing as an individual, Everything is interconnected. We are all one. Personally, I would go for a benevolent theocratic communist dictatorship, - with me in charge of course. Thanks for listening. I know it sounds like I have my head up my arse, but I don't really pretend to take all this too seriously. ;P

[Peace-Phoenix]

Well we all differ in opinons of course. Personally I'm a socialist and an athiest. But I would share with you that I don't believe that all opinions are equal in merit. That's not to say that all people shouldn't be entitled to form opinions and have the right to express them. In principle, if every opinion was equal, then a direct democracy would be an ideal system. But, as elitist as it sounds, I do think some people are too ignorant to form rational and socially applicable opinions....

[snakeyes]

cool. Nice 1 man. I'm glad we got that sorted out :)

[Peace-Phoenix]

Just picking up one something you said in another thread: what do you think is your divine destiny?

[snakeyes]

Thanks for your interest. Maybe I should explain, so you don't think I'm a fruit loop or anything. I have used terms like 'divine destiny' and 'Theocratic' in some of my posts, but I wouldn't want to use the word 'God' in, what you might call a traditional sense. I see it more like how Yoda says in star wars, 'we are luninous beings, not this crude matter' etc.. or Joni Mitchell, (We are stardust, we are golden and we've gotta get back to the garden' (metaphorically). My view is that the universe is one unified sentient being made of pure potential energy, which manifests into infinite forms such as you and me, rocks, plants, planets, stars and stuff. What we really are is aspects of the ultimate singular entity, which is infinite and eternal. If the world ends next week, it don't matter because we just all just go back in the melting pot and resume our true infinite and eternal nature. We probably pop up someplace else in the universe in a different form. That's my 'divine destiny', bring it on, because life on this planet is pretty messed up now.

[lithium]

What are your opinions of psychiatry?

[snakeyes]

Is that a serious question or are you just being sarcastic?

Answer to serious: I have a low opinion of psychiatry. In my experience, it's all about trying to correct what you think in order to conform with the consensus rather than trying to understand how someone might see things differently as a valid opinion. How could psychiatry address the question of God other than to dismiss it as psychotic?

Answer to sarcastic: If you're just gonna dismiss my ideas as psychotic you're on the wrong forum. This thread is for intelligent balanced discussion about possibilities of the existance of God and yes, I have considered psychiatry and it didn't give me any answers.

[lithium]

You mentioned having a psychiatrist in your first post... I don't really see how you got sarcasm from that question?:confused::eek:

[snakeyes]

sorry Lithium, yeah, sarcastic is the wrong word. I thought you might just be implying that I was nuts and making fun of me. I'm probably just a little tetchy because I'm feeling down about this forums thing. I was hoping that I'd find some people who share some of my views and get a little constructive conversation, encouragement or maybe even make some friends, but to be honest, I've found the whole experience pretty negative and argumentative, which is the opposite of what I'm looking for, so I'm just gonna bow out of it. Thanks for listening

[Peace-Phoenix]

No need to bow out, just engage in some of the debates we have going in the main UK Forum, or start your own. You seem pretty intelligent, and even if people disagree with your views, they'll generally be happy to have a constructive/critical debate about them....

[lithium]

I'm sorry you feel like that - perhaps you should hang out in the UK forum a bit more, it has a different atmosphere to the wider forums and we're generally friendly:) I suppose if you talk about religion and politics pretty much anywhere, these are things about which people feel very strongly, so you'll usually get some negative and argumentative responses. But a forum like this is much more than a place to debate controversial views (though you can do that too), it's also for learning about others and participating in a community of sorts. I hope you give it another chance:)