Heroin, Opium, or Morphine?

[jimmy69]

Heroin, Opium, or Morphine?

[Nitrusx]

Heroin, however I have yet to try opium.

[Twizz]

I've had morphine, but never opium or heroin.

But, I still want very much to try some opium, much more than I want to try heroin.

[PsychMyke]

Ive had opium and heroin....heroin is tight, opium is good too but is a really mild buzz IMO...its awsome to smoke because its so fragrant and flavorfull, but its a really light buzz

[Krsna Bhakti]

I've known, loved, and hated all 3 for years. Morphine is still my favorite :)

[Shocbomb]

Hands Down Herion !!! Not even close in my mind

[Krsna Bhakti]

I feel the euphoria stronger on Morphine, although worse physical side effects :)

[makno]

they are all the same thing ....opium is 10 % morphine . it has some codine and even less active alcoloids .......heroin is morphine boiled in acytic acid , so its what they call 'dimorph' in other countries [ .6mg = 1mgof morph cause its refined n strengthened morphine ] .... [distilled white vinegaris 5% acytic acid and 95% water]

[Krsna Bhakti]

thebaine is an active alk, less, but active still :)
But, the question is, I believe, do you prefer to smoke opium, take morphine in pill form (in whatver manner) or heroin (in whatever manner)
There is a differnace in how strong the buzz you want, when comparing the three forms :)

[2cesarewild]

Opium is only a light buzz if you're smoking fake shit, like pretty much everybody. Load up another bowl cause you paid a 1000% markup on that incense! Opiates are cool except for certain side effects like contraction of the ureter and constipation. The trade off isn't that bad if you're actually in pain though.

[prismatism]

opium is beautiful... i've never tried heroin or morphine. but i've had those whatchacallems, opiate pills. fuck, brainfart.

[praying4peace]

ive always told myself i will never ever do anything other than weed, shrooms and acid.
but opium looks inviting. but no. ill never do it. thats it.
:) peace and love

[asilos vulnerado]

I've done Opium and morphine. Personally I lovvvve Opium. It smells and tastes better than most anything:) and I enjoy the high more than straight morphine (although morphine is in opium). And it is most definetly not a "mild buzz" if what your buying is anywhere near pure. Most Opium sold is shit.

[Geneity]

That's why ya gotta grow your own =D

[asilos vulnerado]

hahahaha, I've been thinking about it. I just need 1) to grow it inside. 2) find somewhere to buy it.

[Geneity]

I'm growing it outside, behind my house. Not viewable to roads but it is to many other neighbors, and my mother, lol. Let's hope they don't know what my real ideas are. Opium Poppy flowers are gorgeous, that's another reason I'm so excited =P.

Also like 300+ plants sprouted from seeds I got in the spice section at the grocery store. Yes, they are viable!

My thread: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234255

I think I'm just going to make that into a journal here.

I can't wait.

[Krsna Bhakti]

I'm growing it outside, behind my house. Not viewable to roads but it is to many other neighbors, and my mother, lol. Let's hope they don't know what my real ideas are. Opium Poppy flowers are gorgeous, that's another reason I'm so excited =P.

Also like 300+ plants sprouted from seeds I got in the spice section at the grocery store. Yes, they are viable!

My thread: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234255

I think I'm just going to make that into a journal here.

I can't wait.Are you totally sure you have a strain of Papaver Somniferum? Congrats, btw, if you do :)

[Geneity]

Yeah. It's the only kind that is used for seasonings like that. Plus the seeds look identical to Papever Somniferum. Some of those were also Hens and CHicks Poppies which are a variation of P. Somniferum, so if for some strange reason the ones at the store weren't what I wanted, those will produce what I'm looking for =P

[Krsna Bhakti]

Ok ok, I hear you! Just making sure you knew what you were doing. Have fun and good luck friend :)

[PsychMyke]

Opium is only a light buzz if you're smoking fake shit, like pretty much everybody. Load up another bowl cause you paid a 1000% markup on that incense! Opiates are cool except for certain side effects like contraction of the ureter and constipation. The trade off isn't that bad if you're actually in pain though.i know the opium ios real that ive smoked because it got me high....just not compared to heroin is all im sayin

[asilos vulnerado]

Yea, but opium isnt just completely pure or completely fake. If it was only a mild buzz than it was probably just shit. I can't make a comparison to heroin though.

[Geneity]

Heroin could probably overpower any other drug out there. At least any other opiate easy.

Think of it like this. Heroin is 2x-3x stronger than pure morphine, and Opium is only 8-15% morphine (but does have a bunch of other cool alkaloids), so naturally, if you've done Heroin, and THEN try Opium, you will be far less impressed then someone who has never done Heroin or Morphine and tries Opium.

[hippy i am]

I've done all three. Heroin wins. It's like a wonderful bliss. Best high out there.

[PsychMyke]

Yea, but opium isnt just completely pure or completely fake. If it was only a mild buzz than it was probably just shit. I can't make a comparison to heroin though.Trust me dude...it wasnt shit. It was potent, legit black tar opium. As legit as it comes. I have very solid connects. All i mean is that I never got as fucked up of opium as i could get of heroin. And I like to get completely leveld when i do opiates.

Opium got me stoned as hell, but it never got me anywhere near as high as heroin. And to be honest, Ide get just as fucked up smoking a fat blunt, and i liked the high better. Opium doesnt really fuck you up...gets you really really high especially when mixed with weed. But it wasnt amazing and orgasmic like heroin.

[Krsna Bhakti]

Black tar Opium? Opium is black automatically. It seeps out of the pods as a white latex, and it turns black as it dries. Im not doubting you or anything, after all a name is only so important. But Im just saying, opium is opium :)

[PsychMyke]

i dont know im not an opium expert...but i know there is red rock and black tar....there's a difference

and from what ive heard theres a big difference, ive only smoked black tar

The point ive been trying to get across is that....opium gets you pleasently stoned...which is great

heroin gets your orgasmically fucked up....which is awsomeeee...in small doses, if it isnt abused

[asilos vulnerado]

"Red Rock" Opium is not Opium, It's Dragonsblood incense.


And I know what your saying, but Opium can def. get you super super high, but I sort of know what you mean by not in the same way as heroin (never done Heroin).

[2cesarewild]

I estimate that the percentage of real opium to fake opium out in the market is .5%. That's right half of one percent. All that shit is used to make heroin before it is shipped out. Less shit to smuggle, higher profits, you do the math.

[Krsna Bhakti]

I estimate that the percentage of real opium to fake opium out in the market is .5%. That's right half of one percent. All that shit is used to make heroin before it is shipped out. Less shit to smuggle, higher profits, you do the math.You are correct 2ce's, what comes from other countries is most definitley refined to Morphine before it hits the shore. BUT, there ARE definitley people who grow Papaver Somniferum in this country, and lance their own pods. :)

[hip_peace]

for the love of GOD people
DO EVERYTHING BUT !!! HEROIN

[hippy i am]

God, I love heroin. I popped some codeine pills today and man... I want some fucking heroin, now.

[Krsna Bhakti]

God, I love heroin. I popped some codeine pills today and man... I want some fucking heroin, now.What method of ingestion did you use to go by?

[Colimon]

I don't believe in evil drugs such as heroine. I don't approve of morphene either! I am a person that believes in natural things, and that is why I have to say opium... Good day to you ladys and gents! :leaving:

[PsychMyke]

heroin/morphine= opium

thats like saying hard liqour is evil but you love beer, it all comes from the same plant heroin is just more concentrated with the active chemical. You can get very addicted to opium and its no different. My friend from Mass that I met in college went in to detail about his 5 gram a day opium habit and how the withdrawels were almost as bad as his prior OC withdrawels when he was doing 7-10 80s a day. Once he quit OC's he thought that oopium would be a beetwer choice because it was lighter and not as addicting (or so he thought)

so many people i know smoke opium everyday for weeks and weeks until the town is dry and void of any of it....and then they have the nerve to condem me and call me a junkie. They tell me i need to get my act together and take a double take on "what my life has become" (direct quote) because i sniff 1 twenty bag of heroin every 2 weeks, on the fucking weekend at that. Or because Ill do an OC 40 once and a while after i work my ass off at my job pulling a double shift...while they sit and smoke opium day in and day out gram after gram on their fucking parents couch watching aquateen reruns because they dont have hobbies or a job. Fuck that.

[PsychMyke]

"Red Rock" Opium is not Opium, It's Dragonsblood incense.


And I know what your saying, but Opium can def. get you super super high, but I sort of know what you mean by not in the same way as heroin (never done Heroin).
so red rock isnt opuim at all??? Is this dragonblood shit an intoxicant...or is it a scam that people pull off to make money?

if so, im going to laugh in my friends face. He was telling me that the red rock he used to get was by far the best opium hes ever gotten. (this isnt the same friend mentioned in the post above)

[Geneity]

Yeah smoking incense is probably a really horrible idea. I laugh at people who think they're smoking Opium when it's a red rock.

Heroin is Semi-synthetic. It's not really natural because chemical reactions are needed to make Morphine into Diamorphine. It's about as natural as Methcathinone (made from Cathinone).

[asilos vulnerado]

so red rock isnt opuim at all??? Is this dragonblood shit an intoxicant...or is it a scam that people pull off to make money?

if so, im going to laugh in my friends face. He was telling me that the red rock he used to get was by far the best opium hes ever gotten. (this isnt the same friend mentioned in the post above)
Yea, red rock opium is incense. If anything his vision is probably a little blury and the rest is placebo. So its pretty much a complete scam, the only thing I could think of is if someone took the incense and mixed in some crushed up morphine pills or something. I have no idea if that would even work but I just thought of it cause the incense and morphine pills that I get are similar in color.

[hailtothekingbaby]

People that do heroin should go kill themselves.

Oh, wait... that's what they're doing already. :)

[Geneity]

That's pretty open-minded. Not everyone who does heroin is a drugged-out, addicted freak. Some people can actually be quite controlled with it.

[JahRed24]

Umm you forgot the best ones like what happened to "Oxycodone" or "Hydromorphone" ?? i have never done H and never will. Morphine i have done many times and i can personally say it is a complete waste of time and the if you want a good opiate high your best bet is Oxycodone. Opium is nice, i've only had it once in its raw smokeable form but it wasn't like a AMAZING expereience or anything, just a nice lil additive to the buds i was smokin at the time... but seriously how come opium is so damn hard to find, like i wish i could get a bunch of that stuff just to experiement with it and shit. Opium seems nice, when i had it i only had a gram of it... : (l;

[SpiralSouth]

None Of The Above!

[**PsYcHoDeLiC**]

Heroin obviously. if i had the choice i might aswell go all out...x x x

[Geneity]

What's with that horrible picture in your sig psychodelic?

D=

[Schadenfreude]

Dilaudid.

[poopzilla33]

wow somehow opium is beating heroin

[wizarddrew77]

I've known, loved, and hated all 3 for years. Morphine is still my favorite :)Ditto here Bro!

[MsManson]

Oxycontin. But DON'T use it too often... please!! And for fucks sake... DON'T mainline it unless u r superhuman and/or a non-addictive personality!

[Geneity]

Is injecting binders a good idea?

[MsManson]

pls define binders.

[Geneity]

Binders are what hold the pill together, without them it would be powder. Binders also make up a good portion of a pill.

[MsManson]

If filtered properly it's no major problem. Unless u r ME lol. I had a huge habit on the shit which fortunately I stopped after only about 5 months. Well.... my naltrexone implant did anyways. Them things really work btw.

[cloudy]

Morphine. Please? :tongue:

[Verisimilitude]

MS Contin, without a doubt.

[YourSoXCutThroat]

I'm not gonna lie i fucking love heroin. Morphine is alright but i can't seem to get my hands on opium. I'd love to try it though.

[Ganja man]

i am yet to try heroin

[Sher Khan]

dont try heroin unless your going to shoot it. and dont shoot heroin unless your ready for everything that comes with it. shit aint no joke, im telling you

[Gfunk0413]

Nah , people nothing compares the H rush rushing trough your veins ........warm.....uh

[elover]

I've only snorted heroin and it's been good, but when I've done morphine it was at a hospital through an IV (broke my arm) and the IV makes it awesome

[sm0key42o8]

Opium, but I do love some morphine in an iv drip

[NitrousBum]

Morphine is the primary active ingredient in opium, so its all natural baby. I'm assuming you approve of cocaine to since it is harvested plants. How about ricin, it comes from castor beans. Your argument is fallacious: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature .

[acga5]

it all turns into morphine in your brain anyways...

[WallOfSleep]

Preferance of opiates... seems... funny to me. Since... well if your a hardcore user... any will do in time of need. However, for those of us who just play sometimes, "harder" variants as Morphine and Heroin.. well, they scare a lot of people.

Personally, I've never done heroin. Never plan on it because of the following reason. I'm allergic to morphine, which in a lot of ways is a bummer, but I found out during an emergency trip to the ER and well... when your in crazy amounts of pain, and the drug thats supposed to make it go away... almost kills you.. you tend to shy away from it... unless you have an antihistamine handy to inject yourself with when your in a panic.. lol.

Anywho, I have however taken plenty of vicodin, and varients (oxy, lortab, etc) and those are fun on a boring day. But nothing spectacular... save for oxy's because of the potency and well, I guess the method you choose to injest it.

Now, smoking opium.. now that's something special. Flowery aroma, intense relaxation (if that makes sense) and just overall happy fuzzy feeling. The last time I smoked opium it was mixed with a bit of weed and hash oil..... needless to say.. I tried my best not to fall asleep after that one. I spent the afternoon in the Kentucky countryside writing/singing/playing songs on my guitar and watched the sunset. One of the best days of my life.

So I guess, really smoking opium, for me, is the way to go.

Please be careful with opiates.

Love + Respect

[acga5]

Well um , if you smoked real opium you would be inhaling morphine among other things.

[WallOfSleep]

I know that, but I didn't get a bad reaction to it, which was more my point. "Straight" or higher potency morphine can kill me.. which is no good... noooo goooooood.

[psyadelichippie]

opium like floating on a cloud

[jaged edge]

ms contin (morph) is the best IMO.. but hammer is quite beautifull just doesn't last as long as morph. opy has a more dreamy affect but not so much like the other two.
cheers

[GAHeroinHead]

man id take a brick of raw dope any day...not and cut scrambled shit...after i slam dope then I get to soundin like barry white when i talk...lol..yall know what im talkin bout..peaz.. -J

[boomslang]

Smoking opium was the best high in my entire life, by FAR. I would take it over anything I've ever done before no questions asked. I may have gotten potent shit though.

[DWS]

Have had all three...gear wins, no contest.

I am surprised at all the posts that suggest that folks who enjoy H are somehow less (take your pick/s) intelligent, educated, sane, or responsible than those who "just do pills/pot/whatever".

"Do everything BUT Heroin" one poster suggested. Huh?

I digress. Opium, morph and H all have their pros and cons. I dig my boy, but I can't find the shit...so it's usually morph for me, unless I can find OCs at a decent price.

[HelixIsDope]

heroin for the win

[Oxyrisin]

I have and love all 3..

Never was addicted to any of them.
Always spaced them out, But I like
moorreephineeeee the best
Then its straight to Oxy's:)

[-beatnick]

haven't tried opium yet. but heroin is godly. too good. nuff o dat do.

[minded youth]

i like the smell and smoke taste of black tar opium.
mmmm yummy....:sifone:

and i felt a good fun high too,but i did smoke it with two other things though:D

[pedaltopedal]

Drinking the tea made from opium poppies has such a wonderful wide array of opiate effects... feels so much fuller and heavier of an experience than any one isolated opiate. As an added bonus, the effects (with no tolerance) seem to still linger around even after a full 24hrs. Such a wonderful experience.

So I voted for opium... but to be fair, Ive never IVd heroin, so I am not considering the potential rush involved in using opiates... just the high.

[jaredfelix]

i dont like smoking opium all that much, and morphine actually has so affect on me :/

but i was into contins and heroine for a brief period of time, until i began experimenting with psychedelics.
i am now a fan of lsd and all the rc's and i keep away from all the other hard, street drugs...

[MaLfUnCtIoN]

i've snorted heroin. i've wanted to try shooting it just once to see the difference. however despite my location in the suburbs of a city afloat in dope (chi town) i cant find it.

i dont know where in chicago to hang around. my buddy, before he moved, used to just hang around certain areas to cop, but he never told me. something bout cicero st and something.

wheres the smack?!?:cheers2:

[Bobmcj]

opium, natural and unproccesed, plus neddles scare me

[mgypsy]

The ever so seductive, Heroin!! Out of every drug I've ever tried, Heroin has the best high of them all. It's funny how something that makes you feel SOooo Good can turn around and bite you in the ass and make you feel SOooo Bad!!!! After all these years, I'm still battling with heroin addiction.

[junglejack]

Heroin actually turns into morphine when it gets processed by your body, and works faster.

So, heroin is basically fast acting morphine.

In the old days ,you used to be able to get opiated hash (black /with white swirls in it) that was really ..hmm interesting

Heroin is so nice & so dangerous- if you even think you might have an "addictive"gene -stay away. Like if drug addiction, or alcoholism runs in your family, you don't need to be pushing the envelope & tying heroin.

pushedtheenvelope,
Jjack

[PsyGrunge]

I've only tried the Opium and don't plan on going any further into the World of Opiates.

[Skeetastic]

Heroin for effects, but morphine for availability and similar effects (in the right dosages). Never tried opium, though I'd love to.