Heroin Skepticism

[mundi420]

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[Shocbomb]

I was hooked on herion for about 6 years and have been using it for 10 I am not hooked any more but I still do it from time to time, sniffed dope the first time I tried it and continued sniffing it for 2 years after until I learned how to shoot up, First of Herion is a drug that is very very hard to know how much one should do there first time, Hear in NY City yo can buy a bag of herion from one dealer that is 10% to 15% pure and the next bag you buy is 85% to 95% pure. I can not emphasize this to you enuff you should not and I mean not shoot up your first time doing dope !!!!!! It is so dangerous shooting up if you are not use to opiods and have no tolerance to them, and then its still dam dangerous ! I sniffed Herion for the first 2 years and the first time I shoot up I could not belive how dam hard it hit me it ,It was unreal !! you should start off snifing it. even smoking it your first time in my opinion is dangerous. I don't know if you are getting Tar or Powdered Herion but if its powder just sniff a little bump first and then go from there until you feel nice and after you feel good stop. just please listen to me man don't shoot up your first time. your life is not worth shooting up.I have oded a few times and it is not fun at all. And if you are bent on doing it and what I say does not matter to you and you are goiong to shot it anyways, make sure you Skin pop it, do not main line when you shoot, Skin poping is shooting the dope into your mussle and Mainlineing is shooting it into a vein. When shot into your vein it hits your systum in 2 seconds. I wish you would not do dope at all but if you do I hope you like it and do it right. I just hope you don't fall in love with it like I did, I have seen so many friends and people I know over the years fuck there life up from this shit !!! it is a love hate relatioship like no other !!!! Good luck man and be careful !!! also I forgot do not do any other drugs when you do the dope !!!

[Shocbomb]

I jut saw you were from Jersey, So I am 99% sure it will be a bag of powderd Herion you will be getting. in that case sniff the shit like I said.

[AWITCHCALLEDWONDER]

Please Listen To What Shocbomb Is Saying, You Don't Know What You're Fuckin With!!! You're Obviously Hell Bent On Doing This Shit So In This Case Just Don't Jack It Up, Snort Or Chase The Dragon If You Must Do It. Once You've Pushed That Plunger Down And That Shit Hits Your Veins Like A Mother Fucker There Is No Going Back, Trust Me! You Will Feel It Instantly When You Jack It (Inject It) And It's Not Like "Wow, This Is Too Strong, Lets Go Outside And Get Some Fresh Air And A Glass Of Water And Everything Will Be Peachy" Cuz It Won't. There Is No Going Back, No Way To Slow It Down, Nothing! It's In Your Veins And It's Gonna Do Its Job, Full Stop And If That Means Od'ing You Or Even Killing You Then So Be It, Heroin Has No Mercy!

*Be Warned, Please*

I've Had A Heroin And Crack Addiction For 6 Years Now (Though Clean Now) It's Not Worth It!!! Go Smoke A Phat Blunt Instead!

Peace!

[mundi420]

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[Shocbomb]

Skin poping is not shooting it it no your mussle I should of explained better,. its just shooting it underneath your skin with out hitting a vein. most times into the fat. people skin pop on there upper arm beneath the shoulder or in there thigh. and as for Needles 99% of herion addicts I know use a 1 cc needle. a half cc it very small and sometimes its hard to get a bag of herion into a half cc needle. and just tale my advice don't shoot up, sniffing it will get you fucked up big time, you get just as high from sniffing it as you do shooting it you just might have to sniff alittle more to get to that point, the only thing is shooting it gives you a rush and sniffing does not. because shooting it hits your blood strem and gets to your brain in about 2 secoonds.Sniffing it takes time to get to your brain you can still get as high from sniffing dope smoking dope as you can from shooting it, it just takes alittle more.

[AWITCHCALLEDWONDER]

Skin poping is not shooting it it no your mussle I should of explained better,. its just shooting it underneath your skin with out hitting a vein. most times into the fat. people skin pop on there upper arm beneath the shoulder or in thetre thigh. and as for Needles 99% of herion addicts I know use a 1 cc needle. a half cc it very small and sometimes its hard to get a bad oh herion into a half cc needle. and just tale my advice don't shoot up, sniffing it will get you fucked up big time, you get just as high from sniffing it as you do shooting it you just might have to sniff alittle more to get to that point, the only thing is shooting it gives you a rush and sniffing does not. because shooting it hits your blood strem and gets to your brain in about 2 secoonds.Sniffing it takes time to get to your brain you can still get as high fromsniffing dope smoking dope as you can from shooting it, it just takes alittle more.
Yeah man, listen to what this guy, Shocbomb, is saying, trust me!

Shocbomb ~ Did you get my PM, just checking?

Peace!

[soaringeagle]

dont do it!!! simple as that..
heroin is an evil drug thwat will only fuck up your life

ive done so many stupid..incredibly stuoid drugs in my life..nearly dying a few times from stupidity

but theres 1 drug i was always smart enough to avoid..

ya dont mess with this shit unless.. your fully prepared to deal with the consequences of a probable lifelong addiction...&.. the possibility that any 1 time u do it very well could be the last time

if your lifes so horrible that a cowardly suiocide is your only option then go for it..play the russian roullette..maybe you'll be luckly & die the 1st time without having to suffer the addiction & horrible sickness that is heroin..
or maybe you'll just pray everytime u stick that needle in your veign thart this will be the 1 time u permenantly end the horrible sickness your putting yourself through

once youve gone down that road, your not getting high.. your just mommentarily relieving the self enduced sickness u put yourself through

dont be dumb... dont even think about it as a drug that sounds like fun
its not fun
just talk to any1 whos life was ruined by it

you think straight guys give out random blowjobs to anyone with a quarter because they enjoy the high? or because theyre just desperate to end theyre suffering a few minutes...
yea u think theyre all just stories of desperate junkies & wont happen to you
ya think any 1 of em thought theyd be sucking dick in an alley wnen they took theyre 1st shot?

yea some junkies are more functional & dont go fully down that road, some keep jobs..limmit theyre habbits as much as possible & dont get as desperately hooked
but its an incredibly evil drug & theres nooooooooooooo way to know if that 1 shot will lead to a mouth full of disease ridden dick...

if your fully prepared to suck a dick if you get that hooked then go for it..enjoy the low (theres no high with heroin only low & lower & rock bottom)


yea i know im not helping u answer your questions..not helping u "safely" shoot up..& you can thank me later..either in a week for talking u pout of stupidity....or in years for at least trying to save u from the hell u put yourself through..


oh...& if your gonna try it....you should probly just say goodbye to all your freinds now..all yopull have later id your junkie buddies...its hard for even the best of freinfs to stick by you when u go down such a dark path..if even 1 freind sticks by you u should count yourself incredibly blessed & hope theyre strong enough to drag u out of the hell u intenmtionaly dove into..
ive had to be that freind before...it was very very hard ..&..respec ting a freind you know sucked hundreds maybe thousands of dicks just for a stupid drug they "chose to try" isnt really easy..& even years later its hard to thjink of them as much more then an ex junky..the taint is on them for life


my appologies to any1 "tainted" i didnt mean to put u down or anything you know i'm just tryin to prevent mistakes..as i know you are too by trying to tell him notr to shoot..but u really should be telling him not to do it at all..
maybe it wont help, but some1 has to tell him not to do it & i know not every1 who tries it ends up sucking dicks in an alley..
just
many many do..how can u possibly be sure it wont happen to you..yea u can say youir stronger..u can say youd never do that..but..you have no idea how strong the drug is & how weak it makes u
ask any hsrd core junky when theyre fighting that sickness..they'll tell u..theyd rape or kill theyre own mother to end the siffering..
no high is worth that
think 1st
think hard

then if youir fully ready to suck a dick for a high..if your ready to lose all youir freinds & steal from your family & throw away everything for a "high" then & only then should u follow every1 elses advice here

[Shocbomb]

soaringeagle - Great post You could of not said it better !!! as a Herion addict I wish I could show this kid what Herion did to my life and where it broght me. It killed my soul !!! I wish people would think long and hard before doing this shit !!! Every thing you said is 100% on, you loose everything from Herion, Loved ones Your friends, Your family, your self respect, life in geneal is lost !!!! You just live for the next shot of dope and thats it. Nothing else matters at all in life, Now ask yourself Is living a life like that worth the Herion High ?

[Krsna Bhakti]

Nothing else matters at all in life, Now ask yourself Is living a life like that worth the Herion High ?Yup!
and some days, nope.
But mostly, yes. I could care less, as Im sure you would guess :)

[Shocbomb]

If its yes I guess you are pretty strung out then and all that matters to you is Herion and not getting dope sick every day. You live life from high to high and trying not to get sick. I lived like that for years and It sucked !!! If your life is bad and you are that depressed and sad Herion will take away the sadness and make you happy. it only makes you happy for a short period of time and its a fake happyness at that ? In the long run you are just making yourself and your mental health 1000 times worse buy getting strung out. There is nothing worse then being a herion addict. its pure hell. Good luck getting off that shit Man !!!

[Krsna Bhakti]

Yea, that would be the story of my life :)
And every other user out there.
I've been railing morphine lately, Im going to switch to orally hopefull I can come down. Doubt it, as I have no friends other than users, but Im going to try

[Rugor]

don't listen to those guys find a good needle and shoot heroin up you'll have a great time just after your done tell yourself you won't do it again for another month. you don't get dope sick after 1 time it takes at least 3 day in a row of injecting.

[kidsmoke]

i dunno, it all comes down to how much self control you have. don't push it to addiction territory and you could be fine. i've never wanted to fuck with the spike, so i haven't. smoking it can be fucking awesome, same with railing it, but some people get addicted with those methods just as easily. bottom line... you can have fun, but be careful.

[AT98BooBoo]

Instead of scoring some smack go down to a local gun store buy a gun and get some bullets and go blow your brains out! That way you can die quickly instead of slowly!

In all seriousness Soaring Eagle is right. Heroin is pure evil and a poison. Leave it alone!

[Krsna Bhakti]

Instead of scoring some smack go down to a local gun store buy a gun and get some bullets and go blow your brains out! That way you can die quickly instead of slowly!

In all seriousness Soaring Eagle is right. Heroin is pure evil and a poison. Leave it alone!Yes sir!
Sorry man, it is not the best thing to do for yourself, but not every user is a lost cause. A majority, yes, but everyone has their own perception, and will do as they please :)

[PsychMyke]

Honestly, when people bash heroin so heavily on the OPIATE forum it baffles me. Oxicotton=Heroin they are virtually the same drug, yeah i guess heroin is a little more potent and cheaper, but why dont you guys discourage the future smack junkie from OC abuse...it all leads to the same place in the end.

I've had my fair share of trials and tribulation with the Opiate family..but to be honest its all depends on the type of person you are...Heroin is a drug, it gets you high, just like crack, just like coke, just like any psychedelic....and yes, even like marijuana

the point im getting to is that if you have strong enough willpower to try heroin once and never get into again then its really not that bad for you...despite the fact the you can overdose by doing too much...its not toxic to any major organs of the human body. My friend tryed heroin with me, loved it and wont touch it again...me on the other hand, ive done it many times since then and love it a little too much.

Dont blame the drug...blame the individual, I'm sure heroin can be a great tool for de-stressing when used respectfully...haha good luck with that though.

[PsychMyke]

By the way...Soaringeagle, you are by far the wisest man I've never met, haha. All your posts are so on the money it's rediculous, you have so much wisdom...i can only hope I have a sense of knowledge like you have by the time I'm 40...maybe if I had followed your example maybe my brain wouldn't look like it just came out of a deep-fryer.

[Piney]

Crave Innocence and Naiveity. Shun that which will corrupt your inner soul.

[Shocbomb]

Rugor-Real great advice !!! you must be some asshole to say something like that. But then again you are a kid and probably know nothing at all about Herion. I have not seen to many people in my day use herion over and over and not get addicted to it after awhile. And then you say just get a needle and just shoot up !!! I never ounce saw anyone who started shooting herion and could just stop. Shootng Herion or any drug for that matter is another monster in its self. Not only are you addicted to the Herion you get addicted to the rush that the Drug gives you when it hits your blood stream from shooting it.and you get addicted to the needle and to the ritual of shooting the drug up as sick as that sounds. I have seen so many good people get ruined because of this drug maybe if you walked in my shoes and saw what this drug has done to people you would think different. Its not a drug like pot where you can just pick it up and put it down like that. Yeah they might have some self control for a few months. Using it every now and then for fun or use it after a coke high to come down but after awhile they will love that feeling and get hooked. Opiates like Herion,OC's and Morphine are so easy to fall in love with. And all herion users are not lost causes. Sure it hard to brake the addiction and the odds are not so good if one gets hooked that he will get clean and stay clean. And most herion addicts will steal,rob and sell anything not nailed down. But some do get there life back and learn to live life with out herion controlling every aspect of it. I know dam well I have gotten my life back and am a good person again. I still am addicted to opiates,I have to take 70mg of methadone every day. But being on methadone is no where as bad as being strung out on junk. The methadone has helped me manage my life. PsychMyke no one is saying that Oc's are alright and only herion is bad People get just as bad on OC's and other opiates as they do Herion. In my opinion all hard opiates are bad and are very easy to get addicted to. Most OC addicts I know who are strung out become Herion addicts after awhile anyways when they learn how to buy Herion off the streets. Herion Its more powerful and a heck of alot cheaper then OC . It comes down to would you rather have one 80mg OC or 6 to 8 bags of herion for the same price. and when you are that addicted and money is hard to come buy you want as much shit ass you can get to stop from getting sick !!!!

[PsychMyke]

hey man i agree with you...OC's are evil and so is Heroin...i dont condone the use of either by any means, I'm just saying when some noob posts saying he wants to try OC's everys replys giving him the correct dose in mg's and the best method of administration.

When someone posts about heroin its like a repeat of a DARE commercial.

In all reality people are going to do what they are going to do...no one is gonna change someones will to do something, especially over an internet forum....my advice would be to listen to Shocbomb...he knows his shit and hes absolutly right. You have no tolerance and you dont know the quality of the dirt your getting...shooting it would be a horrible idea and very dangerous at that, it could contain a dangerous cut that kills you as soon as you plunge the needle for all you know. If you are going to try it then snort it once and stay away from it for a while...use self control. Personally if I could smoke herbs, I would be fine with done smack only a coulpe times and stopping...its the lack of being able to do softer drugs thast drives me personally to harder ones.

[Shocbomb]

you are right Myke and that is a good point OC's are just as bad as Herion if not worse in my opinion. The reason they are worse is because they like all pill's are more socially accepted buy people then Herion. People think just because oc's are a pill its not as bad as doing H and its more safe. Well that can not be further from the truth ? its pretty much the same dam thing. You can get just as hooked and die just as quick from OC's and other opiate pills as you can dope. Any opiate should be done in moderation and totaly respected. Manilly hard opiates like Herion, OC's, Dilaudid, Morphine etc, Ounce you fall in love with that high and become addicted its hard to come back !!! Its even harder to come back ounce you start shooting them up !!!

[mundi420]

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[Piney]

in Ocean County, NJ. overdoses, emergency rm visits and death

from smack is way up.

the local paper is full of lurid dope stories.

The County is crawling with strike force who would just love to bust-up some
punk kid with dope.

Please, identify yourself with a healthier set of people.

Please chose a lifestyle where you respect yourself

Peace!

[TokeTrip]

heroin isn't an evil drug, nor is it instant addiction. You CHOOSE to continue to use. No matter how bad your withdrawls are, it is still a choice. Skin popping is one of the stupidest things i've evern heard of or seen, to be honest. If you are sticking a needle into yourself, at least get the most out of it. Every two weeks is pretty much my schedule for getting a balloon, i never build a tolerance, and i never miss veins. Insulin needles are real nice, but i usually end up using IM needles IV because i dont miss my veins. And by the way, i've n ever had a collapsed vein, even hitting hand veins with IM needles.

If you can get balloons, i've found 9 / 10 times the balloons are better than the powder.

[TokeTrip]

Instead of scoring some smack go down to a local gun store buy a gun and get some bullets and go blow your brains out! That way you can die quickly instead of slowly!

In all seriousness Soaring Eagle is right. Heroin is pure evil and a poison. Leave it alone!You die slower not doing heroin. Why not just go shoot your brains out because you would die faster? Your logic doesnt work. Heroin is neither evil, nor poison in the strictest sense. A euphoric bliss accompanied by pain reduction would in some cases be the kindest (kindness is not usually considered an evil trait) solution to terminal patients. The fact of the matter is that nothing inanimate is evil; the intent to cause harm for pleasure is only present in concious beings -- humans. And only the dose separates a medicine from poison.

Perhaps if drugs weren't seen as an excuse to give up or fuck up people would not be so attracted to them for a mentally easy solution? Confronting failure sober or high is not nearly as difficult as trying to explain to oneself why one fucked up without an excuse such as "i'm a heroin junkie. i can't quit. heroin ruined my life." Bullshit, you ruined your life by not recognizing your problems.

[TokeTrip]

Crave Innocence and Naiveity. Shun that which will corrupt your inner soul.how exactly do you go about determining what your inner soul is? shouldn't you crave knowledge and shun ignorance in order to experience, or at the very least understand the world around you in order to truly find your inner soul? Isn't trying to find your inner soul counterintuitive as in trying to find your inner soul your conciousness will be guided by outside influences rather than oneself?

[Shocbomb]

Toke Trip I don't know about Black Tar but when it comes to powder Dope Skin popping is a real smart way for someone who has never tried Herion IV to shot up with out the danger of it hitting your systum in 2 seconds and then ODing. For someone who wants to shot up and has never done it this is what I would recommend this is how I began shooting up after I changed from sniffing to the needle I then went on to main linning about 6 months later, Even though Herion is easy as hell to OD on no matter what way you use it, Most OD's come from Mainlineing, The 3 times I ODed was because of mainlining and every frined or person I know 75% of the time the OD is from mainlining also. the other 25% of the time its usally from mixing another drug with Herion at the time, usally another downer like Benzo's, getting drunk etc. Yeah someone who is use to dope skinpopping is a big ass waste but for someone who has never tried shooting up, skinpopping is way more safer. And with powder dope it does not matter if you hit the vein or not , Well its matters if you want the rush but missing a vain with powder dope is the same as skinpopping Dam I just missed with the bags I did a few hours ago. I was pissed because I did not get the pines and needles and the warm feeling up my back but I still got high, Missing with coke is a whole different story. Its a good way to get abscess or real bad infection and it burns like hell also. Bottom line is I would never tell someone who has not tried dope to maineline there first time shoting, Never !!! Someone who has never tried dope should not try it anyways in my opinion. I don't care if they are sniffing, Smoking, Shooting it etc, Its a fucked up drug that is better off left alone !!!

Also-inner soul and Herion just don't go together to good in my opinion,Dam I had no soul when I was strung out. shit if I was strung out and had a habbit and I found my inner soul I would sell the dam thing probably for a few bags of dope !

[Trix_Bunny]

the point im getting to is that if you have strong enough willpower to try heroin once and never get into again then its really not that bad for you.True PsychMyke, the problem is everybody thinks they have strong enough will power to keep a handle on thier use. "Sure wie'l just do it untill this bags gone, we've done coke and craic and meth and were not hooked" famous last words, but I get what your saying. And to everyone that said you can't get hooked on smack from a single use, thats the greatest load of shite I've ever heard. Sure it takes a few days to develop a physical addiction but for many many people the psychological addiction is instantaneous. And for some people, myself included its the psychological addiction thats the main problem, why do you think so many people get clean and end up back on it, the physical addiction has nothing to do with that.

To the person who started the thread, any hyperdermic syringe will work, I've shot up in the past using a pen tube with a needle attached by insulating tape, but like everyone else said, if your absalutely determined to try smack for some reason, start at a really low dose and smoke or snort it before you consider shooting up.

[Shocbomb]

Trix Bunny you are right its the same for me the physical addiction sucks but I know it will end after awhile, Its the mental part that always gets me. like Yesterday. I can't stop thinking about using and the high. Its wanting that high over and over again. That is what is most addictive !!!!!

[egle]

its stupid , dont do it, nicely said soaringeagle

[Box Of Rain]

i just lost my cousin to heroin not so long ago.

i strongly suggest that you don't do it.
im not just saying this to make people feel bad that i lost someone but how serious this drug really is.
its nothing to mess around with.

[mundi420]

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[fryingsquirrel]

12 ml is 12 cc, two ways of saying the same thing. That is HUGE. 25G is also bigger than you need. If you are dead set on this I suggest finding someone who's shot heroin before to help, and an insulin syringe. 1cc or ml of water weighs 1 gram exactly, BTW.

[The_Man_On_The_Hill]

Hey man, as teenagers victimized by the horrible school district that I live in and by the fucking law around here, through probation and all that shit, dudes like me got nothing more to look forward to than the ultimate blast, and I've heard heroin is out of this world, the most unimaginable greatest feeling there is. How could I not do it?
Because your a teenager. Believe me as soon as your out of high school it's a totally different world out there. And yes heroin IS an out of this world feeling, but the consequences are sooooooooooooooooo not worth it. I had a friend who got addicted when he was 16!!!! Dropped out of school, robbed his own mother, did some horribly degrading shit, and now at 29 he is clean but takes meth biscuits every single day and STILL has horrible horrible HORRIBLE cravings!! I mean probation?? Cops? Drug tests?? Who gives a fuck!! I've been on the street ssince I was 16, locked up numerous times in numerous states, and have fucked up waaaaaayyyyyy too many times but I would never throw away my shitty life for the H bomb. Never ever ever. Be around someone in your own life who is addicted or has been addicted and you will see first hand what it does!

Also, I thought shooting into your muscles has no effect, would that not hurt horribly? And fuck up my muscle? How deep into my muscle would I shoot? I'm sorry to say but that sounds too sketchy, if it comes down to it I would probably just shoot that shit right into my vein!
Again shooting is just insane. It is instantaneous. The guy I was talking about earlier^^ his first time shooting up it wasnt that much, it think it was .1, and he ended up in the hospital soo close to ODing. You just never know what your getting and you may not think it'll happen to you but you could FUCKING DIE the first time!!!!!!!!! Is that worth the "high" or the "low" as I like to call it? It will twist your mind and you dont know what your fucking with.

Is it even worth it to try dope? Is it that good? I know once I do it, it'll always be in the back of my mind... I've never done something that has that much potential for addiction, since it is supposedly so great! Coke I didn't have a problem with at all, same with crack, and those two are some of the worst.
Well, No it is not worth your time and life, Yes it is THAT good, Yes it will ALWYAYS BE IN YOUR MIND, even after 13 years since my friend first tried it it is STILL in his mind, Coke and crack aren't that bad compared to H IMO it's nothing but BAD news.


Yes it will be powdered, is smoking it stronger or just hits faster? Will I feel just as good all in all? I love snorting shit, from pills to blow.
From what I understand smoking and snorting is about the same feeling. Shooting it is the addict rush! If your mind is set to do it, I suggest smoking, I hear it's not as addicting that way.

Can anyone answer my question about proper needles, as well?
If you Fuck with needles you will:
Fuck your mind
Fuck your life
Fuck your family
Fuck your relationships
Fuck your happiness
Fuck your self esteem
Fuck everything and everyone


Oh, and last thing, how long will all different methods (shooting, snorting, and smoking) stay in my piss for probationary/school urinary tests? Thanks again!!
Dude................I don't know what else to say. And I hate people who are judgemental and all that shit like i've been in this post but it saddens me so much.

99.9999% of people who try heroine for the first time DO NOT know what they are getting into. They hear the stories and "that wont happen to me" "im stronger" but you DO NOT know what your getting into.


H is a slow, painful, hurtful, self-inflicted suicide!!!

*Be Careful*


~PeAcE~

[The_Man_On_The_Hill]

Also I see it's been 5 months since your first post and you still haven't shot up. That is awesome bro!!!!!!!!!!

KEEP ON THE RIGHTEOUS PATH!!!

~PeAcE~

[Fallout55]

The only time I would do H is if I was going to die, or was trying to kill my self. Even then there are better ways to do it, in my opinion.

[TokeTrip]

Rugor-Real great advice !!! you must be some asshole to say something like that. But then again you are a kid and probably know nothing at all about Herion. I have not seen to many people in my day use herion over and over and not get addicted to it after awhile. And then you say just get a needle and just shoot up !!! I never ounce saw anyone who started shooting herion and could just stop. Shootng Herion or any drug for that matter is another monster in its self. Not only are you addicted to the Herion you get addicted to the rush that the Drug gives you when it hits your blood stream from shooting it.and you get addicted to the needle and to the ritual of shooting the drug up as sick as that sounds.
I quit my 3 ball a day habit (about .5g of tar for 75 is what i get... 3 balls) a week ago and am still clean. After a little longer than a month. Yeah, withdrawls hurt and you feel horrible, but I wean with Dilaudid & Vicoden, then just Vicoden. Takes about 4-5 days. My musces feel sore but no ripping themselves off my bone, and the headache don't let me think, but you gotta just pull through it. I'll probably start again just before Thanksgiving, and go until New Years. Just because people say you can't control it doesn't mean you can't; it just means they can't.

[runlikehell]

"Ive seen the needle and the damage done, a little part of it in everyone, 'cause every junkys like a setting sun to keep vfrom running out."

"It makes me feel like Im a man when I put a spike into my vein, let me tell you things arent quite the same, when Im rushing on my run and I feel just like Jesus sun....Heroin be the death of me. Heroin, Its my wife and its my life."

Oh the glory and hell that is diacetlmorphine. A true paradox, pleasure spiked with pain. Do not touch it, ever, and if you do snort it. Shooting will be your demise. Smoke opium, take morphine pills, hydromorphone, even China White(Fentanyl) pops, just do not shoot skag, ive truly seen the needle and the damage done.

[subHerban Greens]

After reading the first page of this thread I've changed my mind. I too was thinking about trying heroin, but those first posts changed my mind. I think hearing that kinda of anti-drug talk from a few drug users makes me really believe it. I know I can trust it because they have experience but the gov't and the real antidrug people have never even tried ganja; so they can't say shit about the harder drugs.

I hope that made sense to you people. Anyway thanks.

[Shocbomb]

subHerban Greens-Man I just started looking at this thread again. I have been gone for about 5 months now. I can't tell you how fucking happy I was to read that you changed your mind about Herion. I wish so much I never touched the shit it really fucked my life for many years. my late Teens all the way to about 27 were like Hell because of Herion, when I was strung out I was a a peace of shit junkie that nobody could trust and buy the way it almost killed me 3 times because of OD's. Shit I love the Herion high but no high is worth your life, I see you like Sublime I love Sublime also they are my favorite Band buy far.So look no further then what Happend To Brad. Thats another great person taken form this earth because of Herion. I am so so glad you decided not to mess with it, That post of yours made my day I mean that. The drug is such a fucked up drug I hate it more then anything that has ever come into my life. But I a saying that after just shooting up a little while ago, even though I am not strung out and have a dope habbit anymore I still use every now and then probably ounce a month. I think I will have to use my whole life. Thats why dope is so fucked up all the shit it did to me and to this day I still fuck aroud with it !!!!!!




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Also Toke Trip I wish you all the Best man kicking you Habbit. I know its a bitch I have kicked Dope and opiates so many dam times and it gets worse every time you kick !!! I guess you can say I still have not quit and have a habbit because I am on Methadone clinic and still do mess with herion every now and then. You should think about going on Methadone it helped my life so dam much, I guess I could say I am now a normal person in society I work my family and my girl trust me, Life is 100% better now I don't wake up every day and try to think about what I am going to steal and rob and how I am going to get to Ghetto to get my dope, and when I finally have my dope then Worry about getting arrested dying form a OD and all the other stressful things that go along with addiction. I wish you all he best I hope you do it. any time you want to bull shit just shott me a message.

[mundi420]

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[RockINPills]

How do you smoke heroin? what devices is needed?

[Shocbomb]

if its powder Herion all you need is some tinfoil a lighter and a pen cap or a straw and you are good to go. Take the tinfoil sprinkle some Herion on it a little pile will do, heat the powder from underneath the foil put the straw over the powder and suck in the vapors as it heats up. It fuckes you up better then sniffing it bat has a real nasty ass taste. I have no idea how to smoke Tar Herion ?

[Box Of Rain]

not worth it. i lost my cousin to heroin. she was in the same position as you and didnt know what she was messing with did it once and took too much and died.
its not worth it at all.

[RockINPills]

Shoc i respect u for getting out of that then. Sounds ruff as fuck.
I recently just quit drugs (8days...) and already can see the difference in my life.
it got to the point of how am i getting high, and off waht.
i didnt care what it was
coke
e
shrooms
pills
painkillers
opiates (never did h tho)

[mundi420]

Never, ever, ever ever ever.

[Bluez_Snooze]

^^ how come you revived a 2 year old thread? haha
not tryin to be a dick, but your post was kinda pointless..

[china_white]

hey blue can I be a dick?
please please please?
im so fucking tired of these newbs doing nothing but causing thread revivals
and posting useless things,
worse of all asking a question that was asked and answered 2 threads down!

[Bluez_Snooze]

hey blue can I be a dick?
please please please?
im so fucking tired of these newbs doing nothing but causing thread revivals
and posting useless things,
worse of all asking a question that was asked and answered 2 threads down!

haha go nuts man

[china_white]

haha I think i already did :S

[Vontae8390]

hey i just want to say something. yes heroin is a very addictive drug....i've seen people strung out, plus i've heard countless stories...

but this is the thing....this is a hard ass drug, it depletes a lot of dopamine in your brain and your gonna love it.

But this shit is no joke, this is not a drug where you can do it a couple of times and be done with it, you need to be responsible with this shit and still maintain.

i just tried it for the first time 2 days ago, i was drunk as hell and decided to sniff a dub. I was drunk so i didn't feel it as i would sober, but anyway i ended up sniffing another dub after about 20 or 30 minutes because i thought it didn't really affect me..or maybe i just wasn't aware of it. It was relaxing.

It can be moderated. I think the key is to, get your dopamine levels back up ( which might take a while, maybe a couple of weeks? ) before doing it again

I'm pretty sure doctors and lawyers sniff it too, but you have to be careful, cause your going to want more. Ever seen hostel 2? Back of the car on the way to the killing?

The next day after i sniffed those 2 dubs, i wanted to try again because it was pretty awesome, but i thought about it and said nah. That's how you get addicted. You can have self control, i think the drug only grabs you if you have an addictive personality AND keep on sniffing it cause it feels so good. It's very tempting to say "shit, one more dub won't hurt.

Yes i kept thinking about it, 'damn i should sniff one more dub'...NO! This is a very serious drug and you can't sniff it like its nothing and keep doing and doing it.

I probally won't do any more for a couple of weeks, maybe a month, and it will only be a dub...nothing more. Again this drug depletes a lot of dopamine in your brain. Just be caureful. I think im going to just use it on special occasions, once or twice a month.

Also one more thing, like i said heroin depletes dopamine levels. Your going to want more, but just forget it, you can naturally release dopamine by laughing ( it only releases and very small amount of dopamine ) ....get some beer and weed and hang out with friends and laugh a lot, have a good time.

i think when people are depressed and try this shit, their dopamine is already low, and doing H is only going to deplete it more.

My cousin sniffs the H also, and he scars at least 4 points ( 4 .1 grams ) a week. Just don't do it, if you can't get high off of a point ( .1 gram ) anymore..LEAVE IT ALONE!! This drug is a once in a while thing. You need to seriously be responsible with this shit, and its really easy to give in and try some more. Your going to be making all kinds of excuses for yourself to try more...i only did this drug once and i can only imagine.

And if your depressed, DEFINATELY don't do this, lol. If your depressed dopamine levels are already low, so with the H your going to drain your shit and need more.

And do NOT shoot this shit with a needle...its a done deal once you've done that... Just becareful people, moderate, and be safe.

I havn't heard one story about a successful heroin moderation post where people still maintain.

[china_white]

dude please dont revive threads, there honestly is no need

[Vontae8390]

lol sorry. Just wanted to get that across, people need to see shit like this. I'd rather people have the info on the drug than be ignorant and land there self in a rehab somewhere all sick and shit.

[Bluez_Snooze]

lol sorry. Just wanted to get that across, people need to see shit like this. I'd rather people have the info on the drug than be ignorant and land there self in a rehab somewhere all sick and shit.

dude, not to be a dick..
but you're the one who snorted H with a very little tolerance to opiates while drunk.
which was not very smart..
so i dunno if you should be the one giving advice on this subject.

[Slingblade]

dude, not to be a dick..
but you're the one who snorted H with a very little tolerance to opiates while drunk.
which was not very smart..
so i dunno if you should be the one giving advice on this subject.

lol for some reason i thought of the vid I saw where the firearms guy is giving a class, ABOUT GUN SAFETY, and shoots himself in the foot.

[Vontae8390]

lol. yea but i learned my lesson. I told my cousin he;s surprised I didn't OD. But now i know from now on. I pretty much can't even remember too much from that night except i was layin in the bed, watching tv, very noddy.

[china_white]

and honestly? this aint coke bru
u dont need to worry about the chemical unbalance
thats not the cause of addiction or withdrawal (well not dopamine atleast)
so sorry to say it but i still see no point in reviving this thread

[pr0ne420]

Never, ever, ever ever ever.

Yeah quit spamming fuckhead.