a complete MJ growing N00B: my grow attempt

[canaboy]

said earlier, i am 13, and i live with my parents. my bedroom is down the end of the hall way(my parents bed-room is on the other side of the house), and currently my Mum is going into my room quite frequently(cleaning and shit). i will need to stop this, or there the chance of me getting busted will be too high for me to sleep easy at night. but if i do get busted, at least i can use the word 'hippocryt' alot, because my dad also grows. i have about half a grand in the bank, so i can buy the right equiptment.
i have never succesfully germinated a seed, but i have tried many times.
if i am doing something wrong, then please tell me. all MJ growing N00BS out there, i earge u to follow this journal, and learn from my mistakes. lets begin.

day 1[13/04/07]: my parents and siblings are out, i am home alone! time to get started. i have two types of seeds that i have mixed together in one bag. one type i have no idea what strain they are, the other type i believe are WildberryXHawiian(i think that might be Hawiian Skunk, not sure).
i have filled a small china pot(about the size of a drinking cup) with potting mix(the potting mix contains soil, bark,small rocks etc...), and have planted 5 or 6 seeds in the pot(i used so many to try and get a higher chance of getting at least 1 germinated). i have thoroughly watered the pot and placed it in my growing box.
ABOUT MY GROWING BOX: i am using a wooden box that is about 1.7X1.7X1.7(1.7=1 foot and .7 of a foot. these mesurements are approximate.) and i have covered the inside of the box with aluminium foil(not yet FULLY covered). i am using a spot-light with a 100WATT HOLEGEN bulb. the spot-light has a battery that is rechargable, i am recharging it right now, i am hoping that i can fully recharge the battery, and keep the charger on, and the battery wont run out(like on a mobile phone). the spot-light takes 18-hours to charge, and goes for about 1 hour(hoping that battery wont run out if i leave the charger on). in the morning i will put the light on. i have the light about a foot and a bit above the small china pot that my seeds are in.


day2[14/04/17]: forget the spot-light. i tried leaving the charger on, but it just went out. i have found out that i can run it directly off any 12V power source(the connection i have is like the connection that can go into the lighter in your car. its a big plastic thing that has a metal thing on the end.). does anyone know of a 12V power source that i may be able to use(that can go into my bedroom without raising suspision).
i am now using a 60W candesant light. i should be buying a proper grow-light soon, i am thinking 400W. i have the candesant light hanging a few inches above the pot( i put it closer so that the heat will be closer to the soil). i also planted another seed right in the middle of the pot, and i was very careful to put it not to deep in, and to put the pointy bit down(thats right, right?). i have left the pot in my grow box with the light on, and covered it up. i know that i wont be able to have fully matured plants in this space, but im just using it for now.
the grow box is in my (messy) cupboard, and is camoflaged as part of my messy cupboard. the grow box has no light leeks.

i will update tomorrow.

[Nitrusx]

How tall is your grow box?

If you have limited space, then you should grow lowryders.

[canaboy]

1.7X1.7X1.7
its 1.7 high

[canaboy]

day 3[15/4/07]: the light has been on 24/7 for almost a day now. the seeds have not germinated yet... i planted another seed in a small plastic container using a different type of soil and put it into my grow box. the light i am using(for now) gives off alot of heat. when i thouch the soil, it feels 'warm'. is this O.K? go back to school on wednesday. i will probably wag the first part of the day, and go and buy a good light. i am thinking 400W. how much will a good light cost me?
i will update tommorow.

[BudBill]

IF you put a 400w in that little box you will have made a little oven :)

I would go pop a few $ to get the larget compact flo you can find.

[canaboy]

am i doing anything wrong so far? i am using a 60W condesant light bulb at the moment.

[BudBill]

Well not really but you really should have just stashed the seeds and waited a bit. There are pages and pages here on people's grows. Buffoonman's, Naturalhi's et al.

A 60 light bulb (incandesent) is not going to do much. It should allow a seedling to start but the spectrum is wrong. A cfl will put out alot more lumens and be in the spectrum (they are low on intensity) but will give the sprouts what they need.

I would have also keep the seeds separated. It would have allowed you to know what was what. From sprout to 1.7' should take about 90 days.

[ninfan77]

I wouldnt even turn a light on until i see them poking out of the top of your grow medium. Warm,Humid,Dark is what seeds need to germinate.

[canaboy]

i know that the 60W candescent won't do much. but its all i have for now. as i said earlier. i am probably going to go and get a good light on Wednesday. i put the light on to make the soil warm. i have a can of water in the grow box, this should make it more humid? and i water the soil regularly. i will put another official entry in later on today(its 1:53 in the morning right now).

[brainboy]

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=31605
read and learn....

[Jack_Straw2208]

woah he's 13, should you folks really be giving him this illegal information?

[M4N14C42O]

wow, im not trying to be an ass or anything but this is just an all around bad start. Incandescent is shit for pot, only good for addin heat during germination, nothing else. Get your self as many, largest watt you can find, CFL's. Id say maybe 4-6. Even with a small 70W HPS Security light, you would build up way too much heat in that area. Id stick with CFL's for now until you get yourself a bigger area. I don't know i posted in another one of your threads about how to germinate seeds and if you follow that you will atleast have sprouts started then you can work from there. All i can say is you need to read a bit more or just man up and see if your dad is willin to teach ya a few tricks. Either way, good luck and keep us posted.

- 42o -

[canaboy]

day 4[16/4/07]: okay guys, i got some good news(finally). last night i put some seeds in between a few layers of paper towels, put them in a sandwich baggy, and left them(this is the ever popular 'Paper Towel Method'). about 15 hours later, the seeds had cracked open, and the tap root(the first little white growth,is this the tap root?) was starting to come out. i left the seeds for a few more hours, then i planted the one with the bigger tap root in a small pot and i put a sandwich baggy on top of the pot to create a 'humidity dome'(qouting someone who replied to one of my previous threads). is this nesisary if the the seed has already cracked open and the tap root has started coming out? i put the pot in my grow box under the light.(M4N14C42O, i am using the candesant for warmth at the moment).
how much longer can i leave the other seed in the paper towel for?
hopefully i will be seeing a seedling soon.
i will post some photos of my setup soon

[M4N14C42O]

hey bud, you can simply place a seed in a small container or soil, put the baggy over the container, and let it grow. You don't need to do the Paper Towel Method. You can just stick the seed directly in the dirt with the humidity cover and it will sprout alittle sooner than the way you did it. Give it a try next time, save ya a day or so.

I would put the seed that is still in the paper towel, into a container. Usually as soon as the taproot is an inch or so long you can put them into a container.

[canaboy]

i planted the seeds i germinated, and i left them for a couple of days. THEY DIDN'T WORK! i think i planted them a little to early, the tap root was barely out of the seed shell. well im learning. i started this grow to early....i should have organized stuff first...i am going to start a new grow, but this time, i am going to get prepared. i have a small cupboard that i am going to convert into a growbox. i have limited space, so i am going to grow Lowryders. i am going to germinate the rest of my seeds and plant them OUTSIDE. i should be getting some Afghani seeds soon, so i might plant them outside with the other plants, but my main growing project will be the Lowryders.
thanks for all the replies guys.
(M4N14C42O, earlier u wrote "just man up and see if your dad is willin to teach ya a few tricks". i am just going to say one thing. u don't know my dad :P)

well, i better get to work

[bongbongbong]

alright man, yer im doing the same sort of grow as you(stealth) i was going to buy some lowrider seeds, however, from what i have seen from other peoples grows put me off. Also i heard that most indica plants are fairly small anyway and by changing the lighting to 12/12 in the first week or so the plants will stay short. Also i just bought myself a 400w hps lamp with reflector. My seeds havn't arrived yet but its not too much of a problem because i need to build intake and outake fans into my grow cab. Safe man, i admire you for at least trying though, it took me ages to get the balls to actually try it!

[canaboy]

thanks alot bongbongbong :D.
my grow box is coming along GREAT. today i bought:
a ph tester
12 jiffy pots
insect spray
fertilizer(liquid)
another ballast
some pots(those black bag ones)
a spray bottle
some nails
a measuring cup

i am using 2 125W flourecent power saver bulbs.
they take in about 25W, but they give out 125W.
will these do?
is CFL flourecent?

[M4N14C42O]

maybe im missing something but if your using 2, 125W(25W actual) bulbs, what do you need ballasts for?? Anywho looks like things are coming together, you'll like those grow bags....easy to use, easy to wash, easy to re-use. Plus a box of 100 3-gal bags weighs something like 5 pounds.ONe hundred 3 gallon bags can be stored in 2 3-gal bags.....CFL stands for Compact Fluorescent

good luck

[canaboy]

why wouldn't i need a ballast?
i need something to put the lights on right?

[BudBill]

CFLs have the ballast built in. If you are confused as to what a ballast is - don't sweat it. Think of it as the power supply for the bulbs - hps/mh/cfls.

[canaboy]

isn't a ballast something that u put light bulbs on to give the light bulbs power?
i just bought 2 6Lbags of potting mix, a 6L bag of germination soil, some small pots, a tray to put the small pots on, a extension cord and another lamp( i have been calling these lamps ballasts). i smash the outer casing of the lamps(its made of china, so easy to smash), and i end up with a single cord that plugs into the wall, with the thing that the light goes on at the end. i am going to replace my old lamp cord with the new one that i got today(because the old one has this big golden steel thing on the cord, and its got a big extra bit on it because it is a touch lamp. the new one will be alot easier to raise/lower). i have 12 Hawiian BC X Wildberry seeds(im not quite sure what Hawiian BC is, but i think it might be Hawiian Big Bud. it said BC on the little piece of paper in the packet, but that might be a wryto(just like a typo, but written, not typed). im going to fill the small pots with germination soil, then plant some seeds in them.

[BudBill]

For cfls/mh/hps they need a ballast to fire up and run. A regular light bulb just screws into the socket, plug into the wall and Bob'syour uncle!

For ~$8 you can get a worklight reflector that comes with a clamp (hardware store). Screw the cfl into there.

[farmer dylan]

fuck man grow outside and save urself a lot of trouble

[canaboy]

hey guys,
here is what has been happening in the last 4 months:
the seeds germinated, they were going alright.
i got busted by my parents.
but it was all good, cause they didn't really give a shit
i had to take the plants out of the cupboard(mums orders)
i put the plants outside(i think my parents thought that i got rid of them)
they had shit-all light, and only 1 of them was growing
so i pulled out all the plants that werent growing good
I had 1 plant outdoors
it was going alright, but it wasn't getting enought light
it got really stretchy, and some fucking animal ate a bit of the top
the stem was really weak
so i just pulled it out and smoked the leaves(with other weed)
I germinated 3 seedlings outside about 1 month and 3 weeks ago
I put them in a good spot where they get heaps of sunlight
2 of them died because i didn't water them for a week(they where the two weaker ones)
in 1 month the plant that i had started to flower(ITS A FEMALE)
its been flowering 4 a few weeks now
i am now preparing my cupboard 4 an indoor grow(i am going to start a journal on that grow once i set it up fully)

and thats that

[Shamanic Steve]

Good luck dude. Respect for doing all that and being 13.

[canaboy]

time for an update:
i harvested my plant. got about a qaurter-ounce. not bad for a winter-plant(i don't get frost where i live)
my parents saw some light coming out of my cupboard late at night and i got busted for my indoor grow(just before the seeds germinated
i got busted in possession of weed at school
i said it was for personal use
i denied dealing
they got some people to testifie that i was dealing
i got expelled until next year
i got cautioned by tha cops
i had to go to this rehab thing
at that point shit was bad
its getting alot better now tho

I am starting an outdoor grow with my brother tomorrow morning(he is 10)
i got 21 seeds, we are going to have 9 seeds each and we
are going to have a crop each at a really good spot that i found just off tha beach
we are going to plant the other 3 seeds at my old grow-spot
as a back-up crop
we are going to dig holes in the ground and fill them with potting soil

Shamanic Steve- thanks man

[mr.greenxxx]

heh heh nice dude, i had a indoor at 14, but 13- *bows*

[M4N14C42O]

This is ridiculous......you got in all that trouble, and now your going to go try again....with a 10yr old child??? Shit your still a child......find a better hobby until you get older. And don't go getting your 10yr old brother involved in something that will be considered a felony. I can see it now, 2 brothers ages 13 and 10, were busted yesterday during a mj grow-op bust.

[spooons]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^AGREED^^^^^^^^^^
anyone condoning this from a 13 yr old is messed up,and getting your 10 yr old bro involved is wrong, as maniac said,go play with remote control cars or summin.
and mrgreen,wtf?

[canaboy]

WTF guys?
i admit that growing with my 10yr-old brother isn't such a good idea, and i have decided to not do that. i am going to grow by myself

M4N: I am not an average 13yr-old, i am 6FOOT and about 100KG
I have been smoking weed for years, but I have only been smoking it full time for the last 6 months
my hobbies are computer progamming, brewing alcohol and growing WEED

SPOONS: same thing

i believe that people should be able to do what they want to do
if someone chooses to grow WEED then they should be able to do it

MR.GREENXXX: thanks alot man

[M4N14C42O]

have fun

[BudBill]

WTF guys?
i admit that growing with my 10yr-old brother isn't such a good idea, and i have decided to not do that. i am going to grow by myself

M4N: I am not an average 13yr-old, i am 6FOOT and about 100KG
I have been smoking weed for years, but I have only been smoking it full time for the last 6 months
my hobbies are computer progamming, brewing alcohol and growing WEED

SPOONS: same thing

i believe that people should be able to do what they want to do
if someone chooses to grow WEED then they should be able to do it

MR.GREENXXX: thanks alot man
The advice does not matter if you are baby huey or a dwarf it is what is in that bean that rests on your shoulders. This is another example of why "the man" wants to keep it illegal.

[canaboy]

BUDBILL: i hear what ur saying man and i agree
i am very mature for my age, so can u guys just drop this"to young" thing.

chill out ya'll

[M4N14C42O]

the BIG reason im bitching is because when i was 13 i was running track, cross country, racing BMX, and playing soccer. Had no ambition to drink alcohol or smoke anything......you could say i was "high" on life. Granted, i started drinking when i was 15, but did not start smoking cigs or MJ until i was 18.

It doesn't matter how "mature" you are. The fact still remains that you have already been in trouble and rehab for this......your heading down the wrong street my man.

[canaboy]

M4N: i am passed tha "high on life" stage of my childhood.
everyone has an opinion, and they should express it
i understand what your saying but i have made tha choice to go down that path

[M4N14C42O]

well obviously we're not going to change your mind. Do what you want, but don't be surprised if you get quite a few comments expressing that your too young and ruining your life at an early age.

[canaboy]

well obviously we're not going to change your mind. Do what you want, but don't be surprised if you get quite a few comments expressing that your too young and ruining your life at an early age.thats right M4N, you are not going to change my mind
and yes, i know that i may get some comments like that and i can handle that
so lets drop this subject

[Spawn28]

Edit: Whoops only read the first page, but this might help some people in the future.... so I'm not even going to edit it out.
Fuck man your 13, sorry to sware, but THATS MESSED UP! Getting your 10 yr old brother involved, but I must admit, for 13, you seem to have some knowledge of what your doing, but dont get busted!!! Be as careful as can be, it never hurts to be cautious, if your dealing, set some ground rules to your customers, and only sell to good friends if you have to, it takes longer to profit, but you can garentee your not going to get caught. And if you sell people weed, make it seem like your not a dealer, but your always available for "small counts" type of thing, like for me, I pass it off as I dont deal, I just grab in big amounts, but will sell some for "bus money" or what ever, and I tell them I always got extra, so if you need it and your buddys are dry, try giving me a call type of thing.
That way other stupid kids if asked to testify, will say oh he only sold me a 5 peice cause he needed it for bus, or something stupid but it will keep you out of shit, don't go around giving yourself a big reputation, I mean you can push alot of weed, but you get busted faster. Unlike you though, I live in a much better area, cops will "WARN" you not caution or charge, take your weed, and say their throwing it out so that you dont get in trouble, mean while their smoking it driving away in their car... Ya, they've busted me, and told me that their going to smoke it, 2 grams, and I asked if they got drug tested, unfortunatly he said not alot, but that means I didn't get in shit, and wont get in shit any time soon.
Try talking to local cops alot, and giving yourself a good name in their book, I'm a night hawk, so I use to get pulled over on a regular basis cause I'd be out at 2-3am, and they never search me any more, they know i smoke weed on occasion, and dont care, but if I am caring a half ounce or more on me, I will normaly not risk getting searched, hand them a joint, say thats all I have, and because they know me, they normaly take it, and drive away, or I even get them to give me a ride to where i need to make a chop. And thats all cause they know me as an honest guy, if i hand them a joint, they wont bust me, and wont check to see if I got more on me, and I mean alot more. Hehe, I got them to drive me to a 100$ chop once :) Thank god for stupid police men.

Sounds like you have problems germinating or with the seeds you are using.
You need "BROWN" seeds, I know the white-ish green seeds look full of life, but their not, their pre-mature, dead, what ever.
Best way to germinate a seed that I've experienced, is to make sure your room is warm, 20-26 degrees C, then get a peice of paper towel, stick the seed or seeds in it, fold it up, and spray it down with water, stick it in an air tight zip-lock bag, and leave it their for abour 48 hours too 4 days.
Seeds that you need to struggle to keep alive normaly grow good shit, but is too much effort, so I would rather use a seed that grows with ease and is almost impossible to kill as long as you water it and provide it light, you should be good.
Check your seed every 24 hours, once the seed sprouts about an inch and a half, plant it in soil, sprout pointed down, seed pointed up.
Do not provide light until you see some green leafs coming out the top of the soil.
Within 5 days, I got my seed from seed, to a 3 inch plant out of the soil, so I hope mine works out well.

And I hope the information im giving you is good too.

Btw, pre-mature seeds do some times grow, but it is still a 90% chance that their already dead... So just throw them away, save the brown seeds, I have only had 1, but because I know what im doing it germinated and got planted properly.

Oh, play your plant LOTS of loud music :) They like it!

[Devilreject1]

i dont buy into that music thing. but if it is proven to work it must be the vibrations.

[Ignavus]

Hey man, the way I germinated the seed for my last plant was i got like 8 sections of paper towels and put 4 on the bottom of the seed and 4 on top and soaked them in water then set them on a window sill, end of day 2 it was germinated and i planted it, i ended up with a 17in. tall beauty in my homemade super stealth grow box, here's a pic of it. Its just a gutted out CPU server tower case.



http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/1209071105.jpg



Also it should be noted though that my parents and only sister living in the house don't know crap about computers so wouldnt venture to open one for the hell of it, part of the stealth.

Happy growing!