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ancient powers
02-17-2007, 12:38 AM
How to easily make DMT:
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Break 1-Pound of Mimosa Hostilis rootbark into 2" pieces and grind it all up in a glass-topped blender, a little at a time.
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Polar Extraction: Premix in an empty 1-Gallon plastic jug: 1-Quart White Vinegar & 3-Quarts Water. Put the ground up Mimosa in a 3-Liter crockpot, then fill it with the water-vinegar solution. Stir well and turn it on "high". After 2 hours, remove the crockpot ceramic liner, hold the lid on slightly offset, and pour off most of the liquid into a 1-gallon wide-mouthed glass or stainless container. Add the remaining water-vinegar solution to the crockpot again. Stir well and turn it on "high". After 2 hours, remove the crockpot ceramic liner, hold the lid on slightly offset, and pour off all of the liquid into the same container again. Discard the rootbark fiber and save the two combined extractions in the 1-gallon container. Allow the vegetable particles in the extraction in the 1-gallon container to settle to the bottom overnight. Then pour off the liquid into an empty 1-Gallon glass wine jug, being careful not to pour off any of the vegetable sludge at the bottom. Discard the sludge and keep the contents of the wine jug.
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Basification: Premix in advance a solution of: 5 Tablespoons (63grams) of Sodium Hydroxide ("Red Devil" lye) with 1-Pint of WARM Water. Stir well. Slowly add this solution to the wine jug, then cap the jug. Gently tilt the wine jug back and forth for 1 full minute to mix the contents.
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Nonpolar Extraction: Add 250ml of (Ace Hardware)VM&P Naptha to the wine jug. Add exactly enough warm water to the jug to raise the liquid level to an inch below the top, then cap the jug. Gently tilt the wine jug slowly back and forth for 5 full minutes to mix the contents. Allow the jug to sit undisturbed on a table for at least 4 hours. There should now be two layers visible in the jug, a lower dark one and a smaller clear one on top filling the neck of the jug. Use a glass turkey baster to suck up the top clear layer into a pint mason jar. Be careful not to suck up any of the lower brown/black layer into the mason jar.
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Freeze-precipitation/wash: place the sealed mason jar in a FREEZER for 3 days to precipitate the crystals. Prepare a filter setup by placing a funnel into a quart mason jar and putting a small coffee filter paper into the funnel. Shake the naptha in the mason jar strongly to stir up all the crystals at the bottom and quickly pour while still very cold into the funnel for filtering. Impure yellow-white DMT crystals will be seen on the coffee filter paper. Allow the crystals to completely dry out on the filter paper in the funnel. Premix a wash solution by mixing equal parts of Distilled Water and NON-SOAPY clear Ammonium Hydroxide(Ace Hardware Janitorial Strength Ammonia) into a pint container. Slowly pour 100ml of the wash solution over the crystals (still in the filter paper) to wash them. Remove the filter paper from the funnel, spread it out flat and allow the crystals to COMPLETELY dry out. You will now have 2-1/2 grams of white crystal DMT. At least 50 strong doses. Mix it with some parsley and smoke a little in your favorite pipe!
INSANEPOOKIE
02-17-2007, 05:17 AM
In regards to the lye: You must ensure there's nothing else in the Sodium Hydroxide.
Here in Oregon they no longer sell drain cleaner that is only Sodium Hydroxide. They mix it with Alum.
Example:
http://users.easystreet.com/pookie/img/prod_kitchencrystals.jpg
If you look up the MSDS:
http://users.easystreet.com/pookie/img/sod.JPG
The VM&P Naptha here are clear of any scary adulterants.
One should do a VERY simple test with Naptha just to be safe.
Pour a ounce or two of the Naptha into a clean jar and let it evaporate. There should be no spell or left over residue afterward. If there is, don't use it.
Do not breath in the fumes from Naptha.
One can find the MSDS for just about everything by entering in the company, product and MSDS in google.
SILVERWOLF_87
02-17-2007, 06:52 AM
Are there any chemicals in this recipe that are carcinogenic or otherwise harmful?
kidsmoke
02-17-2007, 04:30 PM
NaOH is something to take care with. You can get pure stuff for making soaps if your state doesn't sell the right drain cleaner. It also makes really good soap. Naptha is highly combustable, and as pookie said, don't breath the fumes. Other than that the only potentially harmful chemical is the product itself. Be careful with the D too!
SILVERWOLF_87
02-19-2007, 05:42 AM
Is there anyway to get the entire balanced chemical equation for this extraction process? I'd be interested in seeing how the equation works out.
kidsmoke
02-19-2007, 03:24 PM
The equation wouldn't be much, seeing how there are not any real reactions to get the product. It's already there of course, you're just taking it out and forming a salt. A synthesis would be a different story.
SILVERWOLF_87
02-19-2007, 11:23 PM
Ahh, so it's more of a physical change than a chemical change... Alright, thanks for the info :D
falsereality
02-20-2007, 01:07 AM
how would smoking just the bark (other than the smoke obviously being harsh) compare to DMT
SILVERWOLF_87
02-20-2007, 03:05 AM
Well, if it takes 1 pound of bark to yield 2 grams of DMT, you're looking at bark that contains about 0.4% DMT, which is not much...
Granted, it also doesn't take much DMT to send you off to another land...
Give it a shot sometime, and see what happens :D
falsereality
02-20-2007, 04:48 AM
so wuts moderate dose of DMT?
SILVERWOLF_87
02-20-2007, 04:58 AM
Taken from Erowid:
Smoked DMT Dosages
Threshold 2 - 5 mg
Light 10 - 20 mg
Common 20 - 40 mg
Strong 40 - 60 mg
Onset : 15 - 60 seconds
Duration : 5 - 20 minutes
Normal After Effects : 15 - 60 minutes
I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to get some effects from a gram of smoked bark... Granted, smoking a gram of anything is a lot, but you wouldn't have to go through the long and potentially dangerous extraction process.
Don't take my word for it though, I've never tried smoking mimosa bark before :D
falsereality
02-20-2007, 01:52 PM
Example:
http://users.easystreet.com/pookie/img/prod_kitchencrystals.jpg
If you look up the MSDS:
http://users.easystreet.com/pookie/img/sod.JPG
wouldnt it be better to post an example that we WANT? lol
Putty
02-20-2007, 03:06 PM
here's some pure lye..
http://www.bestdeal.org/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=Essential&Affiliate=lyedepot&Category_Code=277a
BTW...t's probably more realistic to expect .5 g from a pound of Mimosa. Perfect technique could yield 1 g...and smoking the MHRB doesn't work...
I've heard from others that it is definitely worth the hassle of extracting, even if you do it only once to experience this chemical DMT that occurs natuarally in all of us if smoking 2 or 3 hits of 25 mg will show you a new world.
mask_of_insanity
02-21-2007, 09:20 AM
what is the street price of dmt i know its almost never seen but when it is how much is it
stvt32
02-21-2007, 04:39 PM
This may be a stupid question but... using only a half pound of the bark you can just do everything half and it will come out with about 1 gram right? I know that's how it should work, but I dunno, there might be some crazy anomolie that might mess with it.
Putty
02-21-2007, 04:51 PM
it all equals out...just don't count on getting that much yield. The high yields will come with practice and also different samples of raw material will have varying levels of DMT content
mask_of_insanity
02-21-2007, 09:10 PM
no one knows
Putty
02-21-2007, 09:16 PM
it was spotted on one of those europa websites that sells illegal mj bud through the mail..it was listed way down a long list of items and small print which read "crystal dmt" 150.00 g
other then that I've never heard of it for sale
mask_of_insanity
02-21-2007, 09:33 PM
how much was it
Putty
02-21-2007, 09:35 PM
150 US
bamboo
02-22-2007, 03:24 AM
I read a lot of these complicated extraction processes and am reminded that the brothers in the jungles of south america use a solvent called WATER to extract DMT. As far as I know water is easy to aquire and is non-carcenogenic. Any extraction that requires more than water or maybe high test alcohol is often a waste of time for the average joe.
Try this.
1) extract with alcohol...three times over three weeks using heat if it can be done safely. IF and only if you are going to defat the extract then acidify (some of the alkaloid can be extracted as base by alcohol and acidification locks it up in a water soluable form. Free base will be lost in the defatting process).
2) concentrate the extract to a thick syrup state then delute with an EQUAL volumn of water. Then reduce by half to remove the last of the alcohol...again only if you are going to defat.
3) defat the water solution or skip this step and then....
4) concentrate and dry the extract. In the last stages of drying use a MINIMUM of dry leafy material to help absorb the gooey extract.
5) smoke........
The entire process can be done with slightly acidic water (10-15 drops HCL per liter of water). It is really that easy, too.
Silverbackman
02-23-2007, 12:30 AM
Couldn't you just buy or find a DMT containing plant and smoke it?
stvt32
02-23-2007, 12:46 AM
You'd have to ingest a large dose to get a good effect...but theoretically, yes, you could. But you'd also have to have some sort of MAOI in you.
SILVERWOLF_87
02-23-2007, 12:55 AM
You can also brew some Ayahuasca as well, although that also requires the consumption of an MAOI (which has the potential to fuck you up if you eat certain foods while it's still in your system).
ancient powers
07-27-2008, 06:45 AM
Im gonna say that your best bet is going to a soap making place for good lye. You need to powder your dried plant material in a coffee grinder. Using a large open mouth jar you would add solutions of 1tblsp NaOH to 150ml distilled water. adding as much of this solution combination till you had a soupy powdery mud. you would have to close the jar lid and roll the jar 100x on the floor to mix it all up. Make sure it is soupy. If it gets thick add another dose of the NaOH solution. Let the exthermic heat of the alchemical process return to room temp. This will signify that the solution is basic. Give it about 30 min to cool. Use pharmacutical grade petrolium ether (naptha) to extract the basic DMT from your solution. Maybe the zippo fluid will be cleaner then hardware store bought. but I need to look into that one. You need to add 1/3 the amount of naptha to your basic DMT soup. Roll your jar 100x then carefully remove the clear upper layer of naptha. Using fresh naptha each time extract the soup 3x with fresh naptha. Gather all the naptha together and evaporate in a dark cool place. Scrape up DMT freebase. This is smokable but Im not sure if you could use it orally with an maoi. using pharmaceutical grade hydrochloride or muratic acid 1 drop per every 25ml of distilled water. Make enough hydrochloric solution to dissolve your DMT freebase powder into. Shake and re-evaporate to produce DMT HCL. You can use this method using syrian rue soup to make harmaline freebase or HCL. I dont know if harmaline freebase will work orally. I believe it needs to be in a stable salt form. Harmaline HCL. You now have the ability to produce Pharmauasca. You guys will have to get the detail alkaloid weight for dosage. I believe its 125mg harmaline to 65mg DMT. But I need to look more into that.
36fuckin5
07-27-2008, 07:24 AM
You need to powder your dried plant material in a coffee grinder. Using a large open mouth jar you would add solutions of 1tblsp NaOH to 150ml distilled water. adding as much of this solution combination till you had a soupy powdery mud.
You forgot to add that you have to add the NaOH slowly to keep your jars from cracking. Very important info for a n00b. You don't want water and partially reacted lye spiling in your floor.
Also, if you're not gonna use a pH test, you should add 1 gram of lye per 15 ml of water per 1 gram of MHRB. You can tell that it's done reacting when it looks like soy sauce and smells like a combination of DMT and fish oil.
Use pharmacutical grade petrolium ether (naptha) to extract the basic DMT from your solution.
Naptha is not ether. But you do use naptha to extract the freebase from the aqueous solution.
Maybe the zippo fluid will be cleaner then hardware store bought. but I need to look into that one. You need to add 1/3 the amount of naptha to your basic DMT soup.
No, you definitely don't need that much. I'd add about 300 ml MAX for 1 lb of MHRB per pull.
Roll your jar 100x * then carefully remove the clear upper layer of naptha.
*Letting the emulsion settle out and the layers separate before siphoning the naptha out.
Using fresh naptha each time extract the soup 3x with fresh naptha.
Keep pulling until you don't get anymore. 3 times doesn't always do it.
Gather all the naptha together and evaporate in a dark cool place.
No, don't do that at all. Evaporate it all down until it's cloudy, or until you only have about 150-200 ml left. Let it cool just a little, then pour it into a gallon-sized Ziplock bag. Hold it by the corner for a 10-15 minutes and you should see a layer of oil and maybe some pieces of MHRB settle on the bottom. Use a safety pin to poke a hole in the corner of the bag and let the oil drain off, being careful not to lose any naptha, although it would be better to lose a small amount of naptha than to have oil in your bag.
Drain the naptha back into a Mason jar. Throw that in the freezer and get it as cold as possible for about 8-12 hours. After that time, pull it out and use a butterknife to loosen crystals that are stuck to the jar. Put it back into the freezer for 5-10 minutes with the lid off while you set up a coffee filter in a funnel in another Mason jar.
Very quicly pour the naptha through the coffee filter. It's important that it stays as cold as possible. Pour the naptha into an evaporation tray. It'll still have a little DMT in it. Let the (most likely white) DMT in the filter dry, scrape it all into the center of the filter, then put it back into the funnel.
Pour just a little (maybe 50 ml) of freezing-cold non-sudsy ammonia over it. Discard the ammonia. Let it dry, scrape your crystals up and smoke.
Try this.
1) extract with alcohol...three times over three weeks using heat if it can be done safely. IF and only if you are going to defat the extract then acidify (some of the alkaloid can be extracted as base by alcohol and acidification locks it up in a water soluable form. Free base will be lost in the defatting process).
2) concentrate the extract to a thick syrup state then delute with an EQUAL volumn of water. Then reduce by half to remove the last of the alcohol...again only if you are going to defat.
3) defat the water solution or skip this step and then....
4) concentrate and dry the extract. In the last stages of drying use a MINIMUM of dry leafy material to help absorb the gooey extract.
5) smoke........
This will not work whatsoever.
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