Why are we constantly on an endless pursuit to find God...

[myself]

Why are we constantly on an endless pursuit to find God in an unkown other-worldly realm?

I know why man strives to know the man who created him-his master, we know we are too imperfect to live without a higher authority and that makes us believe in the illusion of God. But why we believe in God is not my question. My question is why are we always looking for God or answers in a place where we cannot go to? Has it ever occurred to us that God might just be right here, on Earth?
Among the slums in India?
Among the homeless in Africa?
Among the downtrodden around the world?

To quote Bob Marley,
"Most people think,
Great God will come from the sky,
Take away everything,
Make everybody feel high,
But if you know what life is worth,
You would look for yours on Earth."

[themnax]

we live in a big universe and our earth, huge, all encompassing to ourselves as it is, is only a very very minutely small part of it. it may be the only part of it we can tangably physicly live in as our species of life form. but it is still only one very very tiney small part of it.

as for looking for 'god'. is god lost somewhere or something?
i'm pretty sure if i could build a universe i wouldn't have to much trouble finding my way home, or making such a way or what have you.

i don't think anyone needs anything other then to stop messing everything up for everyone else. god or gods are cool.

but most of what beliefs appear and even claim to be about, begins and ends with being up to us.

=^^=
.../\...

[crg]

Namaste!

:)

CG

[wolf_at_door]

Why are we constantly on an endless pursuit to find God in an unkown other-worldly realm?

I know why man strives to know the man who created him-his master, we know we are too imperfect to live without a higher authority and that makes us believe in the illusion of God. But why we believe in God is not my question. My question is why are we always looking for God or answers in a place where we cannot go to? Has it ever occurred to us that God might just be right here, on Earth?
Among the slums in India?
Among the homeless in Africa?
Among the downtrodden around the world?

To quote Bob Marley,
"Most people think,
Great God will come from the sky,
Take away everything,
Make everybody feel high,
But if you know what life is worth,
You would look for yours on Earth."
God is within ourselves.
Only in cultures defined of monoteistic dualistic religions the endless pursuiting of meaning is a present phenomenon.

In native cultures, just as well as in cultures defined by Hinduism and Buddhism people don't ask themselves same kinda existential questions.

We're pursuiting the idea of God because our dualistic minded culture is the main source of existential alienation. When a religious paradigm split body & spirit, you also split the human being.

We're on an endless pursuiting of the idea of God because we desire the spiritual element within ourself, which the dogmatic religious thinking (the church, especially) stole from us & made their own - as a mean to control us...

love and understanding,
-wolf-

[crg]

Why are we constantly on an endless pursuit to find God in an unkown other-worldly realm?
Because we "Can't get no satisfaction" with this one. So we hope
for a better place managed by a better boss.

:party:


CG

[tikoo]

find a sensual god and maybe the feeling is not so grandly glorious like you were led to believe . just a bit of peace . you still got a life to live , animal , and then death can be pure misery . or not . but be sure to tell your kids what you found .

[BlackBillBlake]

We're on an endless pursuiting of the idea of God because we desire the spiritual element within ourself, which the dogmatic religious thinking (the church, especially) stole from us & made their own - as a mean to control us...

love and understanding,
-wolf-
Nobody has 'stolen' anything from inside you - it just needs to be awakened. Religions like christianity and islam actually just stifle and block the inner spirit - they can't really have monopolized that. It's more a matter of mind control.

[sexylilunicornbutt]

I'm not on an endless pursuit to find God. I've found God, and yes, she's right here on Earth. The real endless pursuit, for me, is to argue the position that belief in God is justifiable, as are atheism and agnosticism, and to promote UNDERSTANDING, which is what is really important.

Basically I think we're all trying, though some in a more confused manner than others, to understand each other.

[BodyElectric]

I'm guessing you mean referring to an Omni God.

Humans are curious and are thinkers and we love to try and understand ourselves and the 'verse in which we live. We strive to know and comprehend. Omni Gods, being unmeasurable and awfully hard to pin down since everyone has such a vast range of what an Omni God is means it's still a big mystery. Escpeically for those that don't just take other people's word for it and need to experience the journey and the striving for themselves.

[SILVERWOLF_87]

Who gives a shit? Discovering the existence or non-existence of a god won't alleviate any suffering in the world, won't put food on your table and on the table of those that have nothing, and honestly won't help you or anyone else in any sort of practical way.

The only thing that will be satiated is your curiosity.

[tikoo]

you can't discover non-existence . explore existence .

[BlackBillBlake]

I discovered that santa claus doesn't exist, nor the easter bunny - so I'd have to disagree.

[wolf_at_door]

Nobody has 'stolen' anything from inside you - it just needs to be awakened. Religions like christianity and islam actually just stifle and block the inner spirit - they can't really have monopolized that. It's more a matter of mind control.
I agree, BlackBillBlake.

What is in my focus, is which conditions are needed to allow people awake their spirit. If a dogmatic religious institution has been able to break you down - from your very birth - it can control your mind. Then the religion institution can prevent you from discovering your inner spirit.

I think it's not possible to bringing up subjects about spirituality in reality, without taking material, societal (such as cultural, religious) conditions in regard.

Sorry about my bad english - I hope you understand what I mean. ;)

love,
-wolf-

[wolf_at_door]

I agree, BlackBillBlake.

What is in my focus, is which conditions are needed to allow people awake their spirit. If a dogmatic religious institution has been able to break you down - from your very birth - it can control your mind. Then the religion institution can prevent you from discovering your inner spirit.

I think it's not possible to bringing up subjects about spirituality in reality, without taking material, societal (such as cultural, religious) conditions in regard.

Sorry about my bad english - I hope you understand what I mean. ;)

love,
-wolf-
Okay, talking about my bad english...: I understood "mind control" as controlling ones one mind, but did you mean "mind control" like 1984? Okay - I agree then, totally!

[BlackBillBlake]

I agree, BlackBillBlake.

What is in my focus, is which conditions are needed to allow people awake their spirit. If a dogmatic religious institution has been able to break you down - from your very birth - it can control your mind. Then the religion institution can prevent you from discovering your inner spirit.

I think it's not possible to bringing up subjects about spirituality in reality, without taking material, societal (such as cultural, religious) conditions in regard.

Sorry about my bad english - I hope you understand what I mean. ;)

love,
-wolf-Yes I get your meaning, and I agree. Dogma and beliefs which have been put into people's heads from outside are often the single biggest obstacle to any real opening to the spirit in themselves.
Religion is supposed to set people free, but more often it just imprisons them in a narrow mind-set.

I also agree that it is necessary to look at all the influences you mention - In that way it's possible to see to an extent where the problems come from, and also to be non-judgemental of those who are simply living out a script written for them by others.

I think that actually, a lot of the religious input children get traumatizes the mind.

[l00l]

So far i think God is like a computer program. The Earth in the Hitch hikers guide to the galaxy was a computer designed by mice, and God, I think, is a program in that computer.

It's hard to put a personality, or the blame, on a computer program but we try anyway.

[BlackBillBlake]

So far i think God is like a computer program. The Earth in the Hitch hikers guide to the galaxy was a computer designed by mice, and God, I think, is a program in that computer.

It's hard to put a personality, or the blame, on a computer program but we try anyway.The mice are then a substitute god.
In my view the universe has no creator - god or mouse.
The Universe is 'god'.
We are small parts of the universe through which it is becoming ever more conscious of itself.

[l00l]

I'm always thinking the grass is greener, so to speak, on the other side of the fence.

It wouldn't surprise me if we all won the lottery, and existing here is the prize.

somebody consult the uoija board.

[l00l]

The mice are then a substitute god.
so you think the people who make the laws are a substitute god?

[wolf_at_door]

so you think the people who make the laws are a substitute god?
People who make laws are nothing - even more nothing than the dirtiest, most lame substitute god in Heaven or Valhalla... ;)

[StayLoose1011]

I can't fault anyone for seeking spiritual truth, but I have found that for me personally worrying endlessly about the existence of God is not beneficial. I feel like to ponder "god's" existence is almost to miss the point entirely. In fact, I'm not sure if I can even conceive of God existing or not existing anymore... I know that the universe holds many secrets, and I don't really feel the need to pin them down and label them anymore.

[wolf_at_door]

I can't fault anyone for seeking spiritual truth, but I have found that for me personally worrying endlessly about the existence of God is not beneficial. I feel like to ponder "god's" existence is almost to miss the point entirely. In fact, I'm not sure if I can even conceive of God existing or not existing anymore... I know that the universe holds many secrets, and I don't really feel the need to pin them down and label them anymore. No, ofcourse not. That would also be a quite rational way of getting into spirituality...
Labels belong to the church / other religious institutions. You can't label spirituality, and you don't need to pin it down from any heaven/sky...

It's right where you are....

----wolf----

[Gaston]

I discovered that santa claus doesn't exist, nor the easter bunny - so I'd have to disagree.How can you be sure? Did you look everywhere? Could they have caught you busy looking somewhere, and sneaked over to hide somewhere you've already looked?

:jester:

[wolf_at_door]

How can you be sure? Did you look everywhere? Could they have caught you busy looking somewhere, and sneaked over to hide somewhere you've already looked?

:jester:
I'm pretty sure that Santa is my dad. I don't have to examine every inch of the North-Pole to conclude that he's my dad. And believe it or not - I'm having a friend that told me that Santa is also his dad!

That's deductive rather than a inductive way of concluding, as the terminology in sciences say. I don't need to roll a dice 1000 times to experience that there is 1/6 chance to roll 6 - I can deduce to it.

But I'm more in doubt about the easter bunny... :P

[BlackBillBlake]

It became clear to me when I myself became a parent that neither entity - santa or the easter bunny exist - or if they do, they're not doing their job very well.:H

[BlackBillBlake]

so you think the people who make the laws are a substitute god?
No - the people who make laws didn't make the world, or ask slatibartfast to make it for them. They just somehow imagine they have a right to didctate to us all how we live regardless of where it all came from.

[wolf_at_door]

I think it's so sad...
When I was a child, 20 years ago, Santa always visited me at Christmas Eve.

But he don't come along anymore. Nowaday dads just has to pretend being Santa, not to disapoint the children.

What happened to good old Santa. Did he die? Let's send an expedition to the North Pole to find his frozen corpse...

Our modern age is so superficial. Even Santa is fake nowaday... ;)

[yyyesiam2]

I am god. You can stop searching now.

[SILVERWOLF_87]

I am god. You can stop searching now.Cool. Good to know :D

Also, can you give me the superpower of having a new and completely random superpower every day? Could be a lot of fun!

[yyyesiam2]

i gave all of you that power. unfortunately, most of you don't try to dream anymore. i give you the gift of life, and you only stay partially conscious through 2/3 of it. you silly little creatures.

[yyyesiam2]

i'm from eugene, wolf. ever go to saturday market? (yes, god is from eugene.)

[Revsen]

I think the only reason we strive for a god, a supreme ruler, is just so we have a scapegoat. someone to blame for when things go wrong. "I didn't get the job becouse god hates me!" and all that crap.

[yyyesiam2]

there's probably alot of reasons

[NightRose]

Man is afraid of what he will find on the other side. He is afraid that all of his bad deeds will not go unpunished. He feels he needs something to believe in or these thoughts will haunt him.

We'll all find out eventually. ;)

[Varuna]

Some people seek God because:

They want to experience a sense of the sacred.

They feel bad and seek a way to feel good, and to know good, and to be good,

They feel good and seek a way to express gratitude,

They feel grateful and seek inspiration,

They feel inspired and seek a way to be creative and meaningful,

They feel a sense of impermanance and seek a sense of the eternal,

They feel lost in the dark, helpless and alone, suffering and sorrowful, and all they need to feel better is just a little light.

Peace and Love

[NightRose]

The number of words in the Bible divided by the number of verses equals exactly 666

[yyyesiam2]

right.....

[wolf_at_door]

The number of words in the Bible divided by the number of verses equals exactly 666
How many years did you spend counting words in the Bible?..

[wolf_at_door]

...and meanwhile, did you ever consider there would be something more funny thing to spend your time at?

Were you never envious when all the other kids were swimming in the pool at summer? And were you never envious when they were building snowmen at winter?

...while you was just counting & counting & counting words... :-p

[Maryslittlebrat]

I never seek God b/c I have always been able to see Him or at least Jesus, Mary and others and see what they do for me
just thankful, my life is praise and thanks

God bless