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INSANEPOOKIE
01-16-2007, 08:49 PM
So, who out there has their own DMT experience to share? I've yet to journey in this realm. I have, however, read at least 50 adventures that travelled down the DMT path.

bigman
01-18-2007, 05:58 PM
DMT is a great drug that needs to be revealed as a safe alternative to lsd, shrooms, datura, etc.

Hemisphere
01-18-2007, 06:18 PM
Safe alternative to LSD/Shrooms?

Datura I can understand, but in what way exactly is DMT a "safe alternative" to LSD/Shrooms (and indeed, I'd like to know in what way you consider LSD and shrooms to be unsafe)

ergotoxine
01-19-2007, 09:59 PM
In about an hour I will drink a tea of Banisteriopsis Caapi (30g). I will wait an hour and then drink another tea of Mimosa Hostilis (10g). I have fasted for 24 hours and maintained a tyramine free diet.
I am home alone with the heating on (it's quite cold in Liverpool) and in a clear state of mind- I'm not sure what to expect but have read a lot. I am an experienced tripper wtih LSD, mushrooms and cactus.
I will post back after my experience-
Looking forward to have my skull opened up and examined by the universe.

salmon4me
01-23-2007, 12:41 PM
I am totally against this drug. I can handle a half sheet of LSD or a puddle of liqued. But a few hits of DMT and I was done didly. It's a near death experience. I say HELL NO to DMT. People would be losing there sht at a much higher rate than they do on LSD. Not good!

dcliff
01-28-2007, 05:34 AM
LCD, huh? well im thinking apples and oranges, DMT is apples and LSD is oranges. why not compare alcohol and tobacco.

salmon4me
01-28-2007, 09:37 AM
LCD, huh? well im thinking apples and oranges, DMT is apples and LSD is oranges. why not compare alcohol and tobacco.
If alcohol and tobacco both made you trip while having a high rate of freak-outs then you migt have a point. But of course you don't.

INSANEPOOKIE
01-28-2007, 01:40 PM
I've read many many opinions from DMT users and they specifically state that DMT is not like LSD/Shrooms experience wise. There are similarities of course but that's like saying both an apple and orange are fruit.

trippedelia
01-29-2007, 10:33 AM
haha as if you'd be against a drug because its too hectic for you, its not meant to be smoked while ironing or operating machinery, its meant to be smoked while respecting the shit out of how hard youre about to explode:D
itd be good if some people would post their experiences with dmt/aya, whether percieved negative or positive, or just plain hectic.

Flowers In My Hair
01-29-2007, 02:59 PM
In about an hour I will drink a tea of Banisteriopsis Caapi (30g). I will wait an hour and then drink another tea of Mimosa Hostilis (10g). I have fasted for 24 hours and maintained a tyramine free diet.
I am home alone with the heating on (it's quite cold in Liverpool) and in a clear state of mind- I'm not sure what to expect but have read a lot. I am an experienced tripper wtih LSD, mushrooms and cactus.
I will post back after my experience-
Looking forward to have my skull opened up and examined by the universe.Please tell us how it went........ http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif

2cesarewild
01-29-2007, 07:13 PM
Smoking DMT ... is crazy. Not really fun, chances are after you do it once you really won't wanna do it again. Only a small number of people who do it, like it, can handle it, and want to do it again.

ergotoxine
01-30-2007, 09:58 AM
Read my post didn't work,
forgot the lime/lemon juice-
bummer- I was well prepared and looking forward to it-
will do it properly in the next couple of weeks.

2cesarewild
02-02-2007, 10:51 PM
Huasca is cool, but nothing like smoking that shit.

salmon4me
02-04-2007, 09:48 AM
I've read many many opinions from DMT users and they specifically state that DMT is not like LSD/Shrooms experience wise. There are similarities of course but that's like saying both an apple and orange are fruit.
Spoken like someone who hasn't done both.

salmon4me
02-04-2007, 09:51 AM
haha as if you'd be against a drug because its too hectic for you, its not meant to be smoked while ironing or operating machinery, its meant to be smoked while respecting the shit out of how hard youre about to explode:D
itd be good if some people would post their experiences with dmt/aya, whether percieved negative or positive, or just plain hectic.
They are not posting their experiences because they can't remember them. What they can remember was not good. End of story in my eyes.

3N73R
02-04-2007, 03:37 PM
smoked it for the first time a few days ago...
out of this world, hard to explain.
first journey was a bit uncomfortable for a bit.....few others that wern't so intense
bit hard to remember.
the colours and the faces......

trippedelia
02-08-2007, 11:53 PM
"what they can remember was not good"
i said it didnt matter whether negative or positive, im sure some people have some faint quick memories they could write? maybe not.

salmon4me
02-11-2007, 02:13 PM
Not. I think you have your answer. Not one person can recall a single positive experience.

dd3stp233
02-12-2007, 03:52 AM
Between 60-80mg smoked (not exactly sure, scale was not too accurate). Inhaled in 3-4 breaths, with another person holding and lighting the pipe. Laid back with eyes closed, no thoughts, no visuals except a light greenish color, peaceful and eternal. Began thinking, with each thought, it would generate a complex geometric pattern. Continued thinking to get the patterns to intricately connect and reconnect into larger patterns that connected to the larger universal patterns. The patterns moved farther from me to reveal a large elvish creature hold the patterns, that had begun spinning, in its hand. Looking into a section the vortex/matrix like spinning pattern thing that the elvish creature had seemed to telepathically indicate. That section zoomed in, with the overall concept of being that that was a cool region. The patterns indicated seemed to reveal highly complex mathematical and geometric constructs, to be interpreted later. Then it zoomed back out, the elven creature no longer present, but now the spinning energy vortex/matrix like thing was emanating the best psychedelic music. Focusing in my fingers, if I moved them slightly and precisely, the music changed and responded to it. I was playing this music for a while and then the room started to come back into focus. The red carpet looked like flames for a bit and then within a few more minutes, was back to the room I remembered starting from.

yyyesiam2
02-18-2007, 04:23 AM
salmon4me, please read DMT:The Spirit Molecule, and don't be so ready to speak for everyone who has tried this chemical. how could you possibly know for sure what you are so readily stating, simply to be right?

salmon4me
02-18-2007, 04:58 AM
I base my opinions on my experiences. This drug does not justify me reading a book. Yawn.

yyyesiam2
02-18-2007, 05:01 AM
ummm.....how is that a logical reason to speak for everyone else who has tried it? Belch.

Flowers In My Hair
02-18-2007, 04:25 PM
Between 60-80mg smoked (not exactly sure, scale was not too accurate). Inhaled in 3-4 breaths, with another person holding and lighting the pipe. Laid back with eyes closed, no thoughts, no visuals except a light greenish color, peaceful and eternal. Began thinking, with each thought, it would generate a complex geometric pattern. Continued thinking to get the patterns to intricately connect and reconnect into larger patterns that connected to the larger universal patterns. The patterns moved farther from me to reveal a large elvish creature hold the patterns, that had begun spinning, in its hand. Looking into a section the vortex/matrix like spinning pattern thing that the elvish creature had seemed to telepathically indicate. That section zoomed in, with the overall concept of being that that was a cool region. The patterns indicated seemed to reveal highly complex mathematical and geometric constructs, to be interpreted later. Then it zoomed back out, the elven creature no longer present, but now the spinning energy vortex/matrix like thing was emanating the best psychedelic music. Focusing in my fingers, if I moved them slightly and precisely, the music changed and responded to it. I was playing this music for a while and then the room started to come back into focus. The red carpet looked like flames for a bit and then within a few more minutes, was back to the room I remembered starting from.This was a very cool post to read. Thanks for sharing that! :D
Tell me, on a scale of 1 - 10... what would you give your experience?

salmon4me
02-19-2007, 12:38 PM
ummm.....how is that a logical reason to speak for everyone else who has tried it? Belch.I only speak for those who are not speaking for themselves. If someone posts a positive experience you won't hear me speaking for them.

yyyesiam2
02-19-2007, 03:31 PM
ok, so you were only talking about those who had read the thread, but had nothing positive to say. i suppose you can see what i thought you meant by your post. sorry for the misunderstanding. my point still stands, however:there are many people who have had positive experiences with DMT, who use it continuously for spiritual use. others only need to use it once, but have nothing bad to say about it. something i found in the book previously mentioned was that many people don't experience the full effect of the drug because of the means in which they take it. apparently, the most effective ways are:combining it with other substances that enhance each other, or injection into the blood stream in a specific concentration. if not taken properly, i could see how someone would see it as useless. another interesting fact: DMT, while being found in many different plants around the world, is also produced by the pinneal gland in the human brain. this gland is also responsible for melatonin production (dreams). it is located where the third eye is believed to be, and is actually not even a part of the brain. it is a seperate off-shoot of the central nervous system, seated in the midst of all that brain tissue-like some ambassador from our spinal cord. it has been noted that large amounts of DMT are released from this gland early in development, during ecstatic and spiritual experiences, and prior to death. if you have ever heard of terrence mckenna, check out what he has to say about it. i believe he actually favored it over mushrooms, the prime focus of his career.

MeatWagon499
02-25-2007, 01:46 PM
If alcohol and tobacco both made you trip while having a high rate of freak-outs then you migt have a point. But of course you don't.if by freaking out u mean going insane, your wrong. if LSD or Mushrooms havent made you go insane, DMT surely wont. and if DMT makes u go insane, you havent tried LSD or Mushrooms. I watched my friend smoke yopo a day after i took 10 hits of LSD, and he said it hurt, like needles went into him on every part of his body and he watched his body get ripped away. then he said he felt like he was falling, felt like he got hit by a bolt of lightning, and had his life flash before his eyes. when he came to, he looked confused and very sad. i could feel his vibes the entire time and knew he wasnt having much fun.

that being said, yopo is not pure N,N-DMT, and his dose wasnt high enough.

vactom
02-25-2007, 02:47 PM
LCD, huh? well im thinking apples and oranges, DMT is apples and LSD is oranges. why not compare alcohol and tobacco.Yes it is like comparing apples and oranges because liquid crystal displays are NOTHING like dimethyltryptamine. :)

Jack vs. Explosion
03-25-2007, 12:29 PM
SWIM has detailed 3 experiences... His first, his last, and a recreational experience. It's important to note that SWIM has never had a negative nor positive experience, per se. Each experience is simply described as very, very, very intense. Also, in no way could SWIM describe the entirety of his experiences, they are all doing the actual trips a severe injustice. His statements are as follows, but be reminded that this is only a fraction of what can even be fathomed.

First experience: Smoked through a decent sized water pipe. 40mg. Eyes open. Slight bit of Salvia extract. Setting was a living room, blue color scheme, in front of a fire. One trip-sitter, 3 friends. Shadows from lamps caused much definition in curtains. Light source only came from fire and very dim lamps, overall a shaded room. Immediately after inhaling third rip (first two were very smooth thanks to the bong) a green glow began to creep into the negative space of the fire. A tingling sensation creeped into spine. A white-noise sound filled ears. The fire became unbelieveably intense. White-noise completely took over auditory senses. Exploding sensation in upper spine occurs. Lurched foreward, placed hands on carpet, hands dispersed throughout everything. SWIM had officially become electricity. Shadows from curtains became very sand-stone pillar like, could describe as very Egyptian. Egyptian pottery and statues began to form and melt, repeatedly. Dog sat in front of fireplace (a friend's). Looking deep into the dog's eyes, could feel a VERY strange sadness begin to overwhelm. The fur had an amazing lustrous shine, silver. A pop in the fire brought eyes to fireplace once again. Lost in the fire, it seemed, Egypt began to fade. Coming down, many intense visuals, patterns popped, shadows danced. Looking at my hands, they began to reform into flesh, the aspect of electricity faded. Shadow dances continue for an extended period of time. Elapsed time: 8 minutes. 10 minutes later, completely normal, waves of euphoria gone. Would not encounter the Others until third time... Will not be detailed here, though one experience with the Others will. Only thing could say after being able to speak: "Juh... Juh... Jesus fucking Christ..."

Recreational (second) experience: Same setting as before. Same amount smoked, same water pipe. Eyes open majority of the time. Music playing (recreational aspect). Panda Bear (great artist) playing, can't remember song title. After third inhalation, visuals set in, tingles ran up spine again, no explosion. VERY geometric experience guided by music. A very Indian feel (Indian as in the culture of India). Still experienced Egyptian fractures, this time with Egyptian guards guarding giant statues. Experience is largely defined by geometrics and Shadows and Egypt once again. Entirely unique experience aside from first time, both could have been on two different psychedelics.

Last (most intense) experience: In a closet, completely dark. Just barely enough room to sit down (first dark and isolated experience). 70mg. Trip sitters outside of closet. Basic pipe, no carb. Eyes closed. Hit pipe three times, tingling sensation erupted ending lastly in pelvis (more specifically the male genital) became over-zealous, attempted fourth time (wasn't aware that DMT was vaporized usually within first two hits at the time) and saw a very geometric demonic face appear. Not frightening, simply interesting. White-noise overwhelmed. Put pipe and lighter down, closed eyes. Experienced the Others many times prior to this, very unique experience, however. Woman (met her many times before) placed her hand behind neck, pulled SWIM in very close. Guided him down a dome he'd been down many times. Most times prior, SWIM was in dome and "introduced" to people. This time, SWIM was simply alone with the woman who was breaking apart in the most beautiful of kaleidescope scenescapes and rematerializing. Woman enveloped SWIM with her body, suffocating him (once again, not frightening) and releasing him in a very sensual and passionate way. Very erotic experience. Maintained steady breathing and focus throughout trip, which seemed to help the trip last.

There you have it. SWIM's trips.

Jack vs. Explosion
03-25-2007, 01:54 PM
I base my opinions on my experiences. This drug does not justify me reading a book. Yawn.
The book details the experiences of a group of individuals in the late eighties (possibly extending into the early nineties?) who were part of a research study for DMT. It's a VERY fascinating read. I don't know that it's existence is for the sake of convincing one it is the absolute drug of spirituality (though it's intent may point in this direction), but it's worth checking out for the amazing stories. The data collected is absolutely fascinating... And as a matter of fact, there's a vast bit of information contradicting almost all of the misguided (-ing) statements you've already made, salmon4me.

And to anyone else, DMT: The Spirit Molecule is an absolute must-read for those considering experimentation.

stvt32
03-25-2007, 04:36 PM
Damn Jack, that is by far the most detailed, clear trip experience I've read. Very nice work.

Stand.
03-26-2007, 10:36 AM
Yes jack, that report was awesome, nice job. SWIM just told me he extracted some DMT. Small amount, but looks enough for maybe two or three trips. He should have a report up in a few days, assuming it works.

Jack vs. Explosion
03-28-2007, 02:56 PM
Fantastic. It would be great to hear of SWIM's extraction method (as much detail as possible). Interested in hearing as to what you extracted from and how much was needed in order to extract 2-3 trips and of course the plans thereof.

Thanks for the follow-up, guys.

uplink
03-29-2007, 12:51 AM
Not. I think you have your answer. Not one person can recall a single positive experience.It's funny that you say that, I was browsing bluelight the other day for dmt info and I came across a thread that was like have you ever had a bad trip on dmt, and 99% of the time everybody said no.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=298567&highlight=dmt+bad+trip

Jack vs. Explosion
03-29-2007, 03:35 AM
That thread is absolutely fantastic. I love the distinction between "difficult" and "bad" near the end.

bigman
05-17-2007, 05:42 PM
i dont know about everyone else but does this drug sound fucken awsome or not?

salmon4me
05-25-2007, 01:14 AM
if by freaking out u mean going insane, your wrong. if LSD or Mushrooms havent made you go insane, DMT surely wont. and if DMT makes u go insane, you havent tried LSD or Mushrooms. I watched my friend smoke yopo a day after i took 10 hits of LSD, and he said it hurt, like needles went into him on every part of his body and he watched his body get ripped away. then he said he felt like he was falling, felt like he got hit by a bolt of lightning, and had his life flash before his eyes. when he came to, he looked confused and very sad. i could feel his vibes the entire time and knew he wasnt having much fun.

that being said, yopo is not pure N,N-DMT, and his dose wasnt high enough.
Disagree all together. I can handle a sheet of blotter. I can BARELY handle DMT.

salmon4me
05-25-2007, 01:16 AM
The book details the experiences of a group of individuals in the late eighties (possibly extending into the early nineties?) who were part of a research study for DMT. It's a VERY fascinating read. I don't know that it's existence is for the sake of convincing one it is the absolute drug of spirituality (though it's intent may point in this direction), but it's worth checking out for the amazing stories. The data collected is absolutely fascinating... And as a matter of fact, there's a vast bit of information contradicting almost all of the misguided (-ing) statements you've already made, salmon4me.

And to anyone else, DMT: The Spirit Molecule is an absolute must-read for those considering experimentation.
I have not made a single misguided statement. My statement come from my experiences with DMT. What do your statements come from?

salmon4me
05-25-2007, 01:17 AM
It's funny that you say that, I was browsing bluelight the other day for dmt info and I came across a thread that was like have you ever had a bad trip on dmt, and 99% of the time everybody said no.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=298567&highlight=dmt+bad+trip
.,..and yet not one person here can recount a positive experience....odd huh?

nofx1422
05-25-2007, 03:11 AM
Ive had many positive experiences on DMT, never had anything more than anxiety just before smoking in terms of negative effects. Oral DMT is simply the most amazing experience Ive ever had

PsychMyke
05-25-2007, 04:05 AM
I am totally against this drug. I can handle a half sheet of LSD or a puddle of liqued. But a few hits of DMT and I was done didly. It's a near death experience. I say HELL NO to DMT. People would be losing there sht at a much higher rate than they do on LSD. Not good!
so...no tolerance, and you could handle 50 hits of strong dose??? In one gulp...

hmm...doubtfull

salmon4me
05-25-2007, 08:34 PM
so...no tolerance, and you could handle 50 hits of strong dose??? In one gulp...

hmm...doubtfull
I could handle 100 hits is what I said. I have puddled more times than I can count. Yet I don't recommend this drug to anyone. Fucks with your head too much.

On the other hand someone posted just above you claiming to have had positive experiences w/ the drug, so there you go. To each their own. For the last time, I say don't do it.

Synthesis
05-26-2007, 07:38 AM
Swim actually experimented with dmt for the first time about a week ago.


Swim is a very experienced tripper but was still hesitant.

Swims scale doesn't weigh accuratly enough for dmt freebase so swim just eyeballed out what seemed about 10-20mg. (Note: The only reason swim eyeballed this substance is because the LD50 is far greater than you could get into your lungs before you black out.) Up until that moment swim had no use for a glass pipe so swim sprinkled the substance onto some weed and held the flame of the lighter just above the substance not to make direct contact.

Swim was suprised at how quick it hits you. Swim got a pretty light visual trip with no insight or god energy thought processes. It was over in ten min. One thing swim didn't expect too much of was a body load but there was one and it wasn't really pleasent but managable.

Swim bumped it up to what looked like 50-75mg the next trip about 20 min. later. This time, same body load, visuals 5/10, Some enhanced thinking. Over in ten min. It amazes swim how you feel completely normal after the trip or even refreshed.

Swim gets brave and eyeballs about 150-200mg of freebase. Swim has a LARGE lung capacity and inhaled most of the substance in one big toke.

Swim was lying in his bed with laptop and headphones ready to put on and press play to Shpongles, Divine Moments of Truth.

Swim never got the headphones on.

As soon as swim stopped inhaling, swims laptop screen began to violently shake up and down. It started of like a low, up and down buzz and got faster and faster and the screeen jumped higher and higher till it formed an electrical beam of resonance shooting from swims body to the ceiling which has disappeared and is opening up a kind of portal for swim to travel.

At this point swim was convinced he was dieing and when came face to face with the one he was seeking, all swim could do was apologize for entering its space so recklessly. Swim pleaded for his life so that his daughter wouldn't grow up without her father. The one swim seeked reassured him, his body was ok and it was time for him to leave, and next time let go of the fear and know why I am traveling here.

Next swim awakens knowing full well where he's waking from and swim see's that he is bonded with his bed on a sub atomic level. Swim still can't really move at this point but can see. Swim has fun sending electrical charges from his mind leaving through the back of his head and watching them travel throught the sheets of the bed, then controlling where they go, making his own "fireworks show" on the surface of his bed. Then swim begins to manipulate his surroundings at will bending the corner of the room to what ever shape he likes.

Swim finally rolls over and stares at ceiling only to make eye contact with a sinister looking being that resembled an evil jester. Swim spoke to this being with an ancient language for a short time, and the conversation seemed to lean towards, "I told you so..."then his voice started to fade, then certain facial features, finally fading to black.



Swim is not positive what he smoked was Dmt or 5-meo but based on color and high visual effects comapared to 5-meo's minimal visuals, swim believes it was the real deal. Swim did say it tasted just like MET, but I'm sure that family all taste pretty close.

Swim will be trying more in about an hour from this post, Swim MIGHT lol, write on it later.

Synthesis
05-26-2007, 08:17 AM
I am not the only one, my brothers and sisters can bring you here also.

We are just different colored cars all going to the same place. If you can not find me. Seek my brother. Seek my sisters. We will all meet together.

Synthesis
05-26-2007, 08:28 AM
Shit. Swim said it didn't all vaporize. Swim says it's ALL or NOTHING with this substance for him.


Either it's 15min. of a trip wishing for more or 15min. of wishing for less.

There is no "Just Right"

You either lose control or wish you did.

OK! OK! OK!

Enough monkey business.

Synthesis
05-26-2007, 08:57 AM
Well.








as i thought to myself that this would be another mediocre trip, that thought froze in place and took on a two dimensional form. It then started to grow in size opening a hole in space.

The rest I can't put into words. I'm deeply sorry for this. But join me and you will understand.

All these substances bring you to the same place. This is just the express lane.

There really is no need to discuss things like "whats it feel like"

I think we do this purely out of anticipation.



I'm pretty much back now and I feel like a million bucks. Energetic. Thoughts flow easily. Feel a push to do something artistic. Write some music.



I want to try this stuff ingested orally. The short duration is a little TOO short.



BTW this post and all previous posts are a complete work of fiction for your reading entertainment.

salmon4me
05-27-2007, 03:47 AM
Swim actually experimented with dmt for the first time about a week ago.


Swim is a very experienced tripper but was still hesitant.

Swims scale doesn't weigh accuratly enough for dmt freebase so swim just eyeballed out what seemed about 10-20mg. (Note: The only reason swim eyeballed this substance is because the LD50 is far greater than you could get into your lungs before you black out.) Up until that moment swim had no use for a glass pipe so swim sprinkled the substance onto some weed and held the flame of the lighter just above the substance not to make direct contact.

Swim was suprised at how quick it hits you. Swim got a pretty light visual trip with no insight or god energy thought processes. It was over in ten min. One thing swim didn't expect too much of was a body load but there was one and it wasn't really pleasent but managable.

Swim bumped it up to what looked like 50-75mg the next trip about 20 min. later. This time, same body load, visuals 5/10, Some enhanced thinking. Over in ten min. It amazes swim how you feel completely normal after the trip or even refreshed.

Swim gets brave and eyeballs about 150-200mg of freebase. Swim has a LARGE lung capacity and inhaled most of the substance in one big toke.

Swim was lying in his bed with laptop and headphones ready to put on and press play to Shpongles, Divine Moments of Truth.

Swim never got the headphones on.

As soon as swim stopped inhaling, swims laptop screen began to violently shake up and down. It started of like a low, up and down buzz and got faster and faster and the screeen jumped higher and higher till it formed an electrical beam of resonance shooting from swims body to the ceiling which has disappeared and is opening up a kind of portal for swim to travel.

At this point swim was convinced he was dieing and when came face to face with the one he was seeking, all swim could do was apologize for entering its space so recklessly. Swim pleaded for his life so that his daughter wouldn't grow up without her father. The one swim seeked reassured him, his body was ok and it was time for him to leave, and next time let go of the fear and know why I am traveling here.

Next swim awakens knowing full well where he's waking from and swim see's that he is bonded with his bed on a sub atomic level. Swim still can't really move at this point but can see. Swim has fun sending electrical charges from his mind leaving through the back of his head and watching them travel throught the sheets of the bed, then controlling where they go, making his own "fireworks show" on the surface of his bed. Then swim begins to manipulate his surroundings at will bending the corner of the room to what ever shape he likes.

Swim finally rolls over and stares at ceiling only to make eye contact with a sinister looking being that resembled an evil jester. Swim spoke to this being with an ancient language for a short time, and the conversation seemed to lean towards, "I told you so..."then his voice started to fade, then certain facial features, finally fading to black.



Swim is not positive what he smoked was Dmt or 5-meo but based on color and high visual effects comapared to 5-meo's minimal visuals, swim believes it was the real deal. Swim did say it tasted just like MET, but I'm sure that family all taste pretty close.

Swim will be trying more in about an hour from this post, Swim MIGHT lol, write on it later.
"Swim was convinced he was dying." Swim was smoking real DMT, trust me.

salmon4me
05-27-2007, 03:48 AM
Shit. Swim said it didn't all vaporize. Swim says it's ALL or NOTHING with this substance for him.


Either it's 15min. of a trip wishing for more or 15min. of wishing for less.

There is no "Just Right"

You either lose control or wish you did.

OK! OK! OK!

Enough monkey business.
Thank you.

uplink
05-28-2007, 07:39 PM
There is one thing you need to remember, although people can tell stories about what happened to them on DMT, or they can say what shapes they saw, it is nearly impossible to actually describe the effects.

I wrote this once before, but i'll retype it here for good measure.

DMT or more specifically ayahuasca, is a very unique feeling. I'd compare it to when you you realize something absolutely amazing and all the pieces of a mystery all of a sudden fit together you and you get this rush that builds (almost like an orgasm or a sneeze) and then explodes and you are like OH MY GOD. DMT feels like the peak of that OH MY GOD. It's very hard to move and think clearly, and you really shouldn't be trying to do either of those on a DMT trip.

Often while tripping I'll get that orgasm/sneeze/buildup feeling. It will start in one part of my body and slowly build up and gain momentum (like an avalanche) and moves across my body to my head and it climaxes in my brain.

Another way of describing it would be to say it feels like a million thoughts/feelings/ideas are hitting your mind all at once, and it can be very overwhelming. It feels like a mix between extreme euphoria and anxiety. It's amazing anyways.

When I first did it, I remember thinking that DMT did not feel like a new or unique feeling, but instead a mash-up of other feelings that I had beforehand.

This is just my experience. Your experience may be similar due to the "set" (preconceived notions) that I have just given you.

FreekoutMcGee
05-28-2007, 08:41 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8


http://youtube.com/watch?v=oigtSg6ZFiw



http://youtube.com/watch?v=KfFPPdMHers


http://youtube.com/watch?v=l4LKz9zxgVM





dmt is in us all....dont talk bad about it and tell people not to do it...we all do it at least twice in our life time.

uplink
05-29-2007, 10:26 PM
Terrance McKenna has come up with many very crazy ideas. Like really crazy.

One of the reasons he thinks DMT is what makes people sleep is that he personally was handed DMT pipe in a dream, toked and tripped. However, I have done many drugs while asleep, and I can say they felt pretty similiar to the real substance. The best part is if you have a bad trip, you wake up.

Anyways, his theory doesn't make much sense. How would the brain know to release DMT when he saw it? But most importantly, dreaming feels nothing like tripping on DMT.

And who knows if we experience DMT while dieing and being born. That is about as theoretical as a theory can get... there is no scientific proof, just that when people have near death experiences feels similiar to a DMT trip. Maybe both stimulate the same part of the mind. There is no evolutionary reason why DMT would be released at those two times.

Anyways, those videos are kinda neat.

Synthesis
05-29-2007, 11:28 PM
McKenna may have some wild ideas but,

It's a scientific fact that your brain produces DMT naturally.

So if you wanna say your brain produces DMT but does nothing with it, then that's your opinion.

2cesarewild
05-29-2007, 11:37 PM
Is it fact, or a strongly evidenced hypothesis?

Synthesis
05-29-2007, 11:45 PM
Is it fact, or a strongly evidenced hypothesis?

We've been disecting people for a long time now. Not hard to crack open a skull and find out what your brain produces.

Do some research. It's all there.

2cesarewild
05-30-2007, 12:18 AM
I assume you've done the research? What did your research consist of? I don't really care that much, you don't have to answer if you don't want to.

eman resu
05-30-2007, 03:14 AM
I just smoked deamsters this weekend for the 2nd time in my life and it was fucking amazing, way way bvetter than my first experience. Everything just seems to kind of fall apart into complete chaos in like 30 seconds. Several speculative and as yet untested suggest that endogenous DMT, produced in the human brain, is involved in certain psychological and neurological states. As DMT is naturally produced in small amounts in the brains and other tissues of humans, and other mammals[1], some believe it plays a role in promoting the visual effects of natural dreaming, near-death experiences and other mystical states. A biochemical mechanism for this was proposed by the medical researcher JC Callaway, who suggested in 1988 that DMT might be connected with visual dream phenomena, where brain DMT levels are periodically elevated to induce visual dreaming and possibly other natural states of mind. [7]

FreekoutMcGee
05-30-2007, 05:56 AM
I just smoked deamsters this weekend at a festie for the 2nd time in my life and it was fucking amazing, way way bvetter than my first experience. Everything just seems to kind of fall apart into complete chaos in like 30 seconds. Several speculative and as yet untested suggest that endogenous DMT, produced in the human brain, is involved in certain psychological and neurological states. As DMT is naturally produced in small amounts in the brains and other tissues of humans, and other mammals[1], some believe it plays a role in promoting the visual effects of natural dreaming, near-death experiences and other mystical states. A biochemical mechanism for this was proposed by the medical researcher JC Callaway, who suggested in 1988 that DMT might be connected with visual dream phenomena, where brain DMT levels are periodically elevated to induce visual dreaming and possibly other natural states of mind. [7]




glad to hear you had an amazing trip brother!!!

uplink
06-02-2007, 06:42 AM
I just read that DMT comes up in human urine, and 5-meo-dmt is found in the brain (it's function is related to that of melatonin).

DMT is an endogenous substance (Barker, Monti, and Christian 1981) suspected to be synthesized by the pineal gland (Strassman 1991). Is there a more recent study?

yyyesiam2
06-02-2007, 07:14 AM
apparently, dmt, along with melatonin and other chemicals are produced by the pinneal gland (spelling?)-an off shoot of the central nervous system, seperate from, but inside of the brain. the pinneal gland is apparently located around where the third eye is said to be. my research: dmt:the spirit molecule.

Jack vs. Explosion
06-04-2007, 10:27 AM
Supposedly?

Look, Strassman never claims that there is definitive proof that DMT is actually produced/synthesized/whatever else in the pineal gland. He simply that since the body produces DMT, it is most likely produced by the pineal gland for a number of semi-scientific and spiritual reasons.

Yes, we, as human beings, create DMT on an endogenous level. How, why, and where are not even remotely answerable at this point seeing as how it's sort of hard to rip someone's brain open and study the neurochemical properties of the pineal gland while they're alive...

EDIT: Corrected a few typos.

dacre4
06-05-2007, 04:20 PM
Yes, we, as human beings, create DMT on an endogenous level. How, why, and where are not even remotely answerable at this point seeing as how it's sort of hard to rip someone's brain open and study the neurochemical properties of the pineal gland while they're alive...

EDIT: Corrected a few typos.hmm we need someone to sacrafice themselves for the sake of knowledge lol. I would be down for it if i was old but im just a kid.

smt8790
06-25-2007, 04:58 AM
DMT is not for beginners you can never fully prepare yourself for a DMT trip and each trip is usually unexplainable because it is a short one.

3xi
06-27-2007, 08:55 PM
i have had probably 10 or so dmt trips. a couple of them stand out... here are the trip reports...

me and two of my friends we will call T and A are in my basement apartment. i lay out the doses all the same at around 35mg. T went first, took his hit and passed me the pipe. he laid back and closed his eyes. he says he didnt get that high. i load my hit into the pipe and sit on the couch. i take a full hit that i am only to assume included some that T never got from his hit because i sure had a good dose... i take my hit and hold it in as long as i can, i lay back as i exhale. i hear this electric buzz as i feel my energy buzz as well. before i knew what happened i was outside my body up above us in the room. i was looking down on the three of us trying to figure out which body to get back into. i seriously did not know who i was. i tried T then A before i finally found my body. when i returned i was a little freaked out and my energy felt wrong. i just told myself in a calm voice to relax and let go - as soon as i did i was filled with the most wonderful feeling ever. like a warm white light waterfall washing through my body, falling down from the top of my head. it felt like it lasted forever and went by so quickly. totally amazing.

next trip... this time i am out in a dingy in the middle of a lake with my girlfriend. this time only i will trip. it was a wonderful day with calm water. i take my hit and relax. the same electric buzz sensation. then i am in another place - looking at this beautiful woman. i ask her who she is - she says that she is my guide and that i should always remember that she is always there watching over me - she always has been and always will be (for this life anyways)... i ask her why she looks so good. she said that it was because she knows what i like - just then she turned into an old wise man and i say oh- i see. then my guide disappears and i am going from city to city, looking at all the great big buildings and neon lights. it felt like i was actually right there in the middle of a street looking up at the tops of buildings then i was flying or driving down a street with lost of lights like vagas. this trip was the same as the other one in that it felt like it lasted forever yet went by so quickly.

i hope i get some more dmt soon. it has been a few years since my last trip.

salmon4me
06-30-2007, 09:05 PM
Please note the 'banned' under his name. :)

Reanimate
07-18-2007, 03:15 PM
Please note the 'banned' under his name. :)

Who? Elaborate your meaning or purpose.

peacegrow
07-18-2007, 06:09 PM
I had to register just to say that DMT, for me, is very meaningful and joyous. Almost every time I've smoked it, I had an extremely happy trip. With a huge grin as I watched the visuals and experienced the unexplainable. There were a few times where things got slightly creepy, but nothing that would make me not want to take it in the future. The most important substance of them all for me.

Squidge
03-27-2008, 02:27 PM
hey man found this on youtube....pretty interesting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grcqs9cDuN8

danknugz81
03-27-2008, 10:43 PM
that joe rogan clip has been around for awhile now.. he smoked it with doug stanhope (another comedian) once while they were working on "the man show" together.

doug talked about smoking it in his act and i was intrigued. a year later, i experienced dmt for the first time last night. very intense shit, much more than acid or shrooms. a little scary at first, but it mellows out a bit. very heavy open-eye visuals (i couldnt let go enough to close my eyes.) very strange and intriguing drug. will do it again for sure, just dont know when.

if anyone wants it, just buy some MHRB and extract it yourself. its not hard at all. certainly not harder than finding someone in your area who actually sells it. i liked the experience, but i could see how it could be too much for some people. only way to know is to try..

by the way, the shit they smoked was 5-meo-dmt, not nn-dmt (according to doug)