thread to ask all questions about 'Female to male'

[BlueJay]

Hello...I was just wondering if there are any females who have had a sex reassignment surgery to become male, or have thought about it? It seems we hear alot of male to female transgender, and I was wondering if there are any female to male transgender people?

[Samhain]

yes there are some on here, but I guess i'll let them answer this thread if they wish too, if you explore this forum further though, you will find some f to m transexuals.
are you one yourself?
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[BlueJay]

I haven't had any type of surgery, but I've been curious about this because I have never felt female, even though I was born one. I saw a female to male transgender on the Montel show, and it got me wondering how many people there are like this, especially since the male to female is what we usually see. And I'm so glad it seems I'm not the only one.

[Samhain]

try these links

http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190435

http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196322

http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188579

[Snowdancer]

I can't speak for the people here but I know two F2M trans guys. Both have had breasts removed & have been on appropriate HRT but neither are going to have genital surgery. One is hoping for a hysterectomy which seems to becoming medically necessary even if he was his birth gender.

[BlueJay]

Is genital surgery possible in a F to M ??

[Samhain]

Is genital surgery possible in a F to M ??yes but its more complicated, take a look at the information thread i have linked you to in a couple of posts up
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[Samhain]

I have now edited the thread title and stickyed it, in the hopes that more people will see it and answer the thread

[_kay_]

Hey all,

I have a partner for about two years. The gender identity is, hymm well, it`s a bit confusing... so, I`ll keep the 'she' reference. Sometimes, she says that she is transexual (f to m) and feels uncomfortable in her body, at other times she calls herself a lesbian and prefers to associate mostly with lesbians. Dressing like a boy, at the same time she doesn`t have a problem wearing a bathing suit. Prefers watching movies on a lesbian thematic. Also at times making critical remarks about men in general... So, I was wondering - are there some kinda mixed types of sexual idenitities, or my partner is confused?
Thanks.

[Samhain]

Hey all,

I have a partner for about two years. The gender identity is, hymm well, it`s a bit confusing... so, I`ll keep the 'she' reference. Sometimes, she says that she is transexual (f to m) and feels uncomfortable in her body, at other times she calls herself a lesbian and prefers to associate mostly with lesbians. Dressing like a boy, at the same time she doesn`t have a problem wearing a bathing suit. Prefers watching movies on a lesbian thematic. Also at times making critical remarks about men in general... So, I was wondering - are there some kinda mixed types of sexual idenitities, or my partner is confused?
Thanks.
if you have a read of this forum, i think you'll find that peoples gender like their sexuality is rarley competely balck and white
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[Fucking_Matthew]

I'm a pre-op FtM, but am currently living full time as male. Wouldn't have it any other way.

[Adamness]

I'm FTM and haven't gone on hormones or gotten any surgeries and don't really plan to. I live full-time as a guy though and have legally changed my name on all of my identifying documents.

[Samhain]

I'm FTM and haven't gone on hormones or gotten any surgeries and don't really plan to. I live full-time as a guy though and have legally changed my name on all of my identifying documents.
do you mind me asking what the benefits are to to not going on hormones and having surgury, not saying for one moment that you are wrong not too, just interested
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[Adamness]

do you mind me asking what the benefits are to to not going on hormones and having surgury, not saying for one moment that you are wrong not too, just interested
SPersonally, I don't have much of a desire to have any of the effects of hormones. If I had facial hair, I'd shave it off. My voice is deep enough already. I pass quite well as it is, etc. At this point, I feel like going on T would just be an act to satisfy others' expectations, in my case. As for surgery, it's expensive, it's largely ineffective. It's great for some people, but I've come to be comfortable with who I am- as a transman, not just as a man. I'm comfortable being a female-bodied guy, and want to stay that way.

[Samhain]

Personally, I don't have much of a desire to have any of the effects of hormones. If I had facial hair, I'd shave it off. My voice is deep enough already. I pass quite well as it is, etc. At this point, I feel like going on T would just be an act to satisfy others' expectations, in my case. As for surgery, it's expensive, it's largely ineffective. It's great for some people, but I've come to be comfortable with who I am- as a transman, not just as a man. I'm comfortable being a female-bodied guy, and want to stay that way.
its great to hear from someone who is really comfortable with who they are, I wish more people where
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[Fucking_Matthew]

If you don't mind me asking Adam, what method do you use for binding? Cos if you plan on binding all your life it must be comfortable, right? The methods I use atm works well but eh..isn't recommended. And do you go swimming? How?

[Samhain]

If you don't mind me asking Adam, what method do you use for binding? Cos if you plan on binding all your life it must be comfortable, right? The methods I use atm works well but eh..isn't recommended. And do you go swimming? How?
have I missed something?
I don't believe Adamness said anything about binding
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[Adamness]

If you don't mind me asking Adam, what method do you use for binding? Cos if you plan on binding all your life it must be comfortable, right? The methods I use atm works well but eh..isn't recommended. And do you go swimming? How?I use the Underworks tri-top binder: http://www.underworks.com/products.html#983

It's decently comfortable, and I wear it all the time, except for sleeping. For swimming, I wear swim trunks and a black t-shirt over one of my spare binders, and have never had any problems with passing that way. I've found that it's usually a good idea to pack when swimming as well, since wet swim shorts can be a bit...clingy.

[xDeceitfullyYoursx]

I'm a FtM, but I'm not planning on taking any T or getting a surgery. ... Well, I'm kind of considering T, but of course I'm not sure about it yet. As of now I live my life as I live it: how people wish to see me. People say I'm a boy, others say I'm a girl. It doesn't matter to me - I know that I'm a boy (very pretty boy ^.~) and that's all that matters.

And Adamness, I was going to ask the same question to you xD But neat, I think I'll give that a try! (seeing as how I have a rather large chest, it's hard to hide ~_~)

[honeyfugle]

i'd like to say, i'm so happy for all you FTM guys to be so comfortable in yourselves!!
This is such a great little support group.

i wish you guys all the love in the world. :) seriously, the above posters all seem at total peace with themselves, which i admire so much.

I do have a question for you though (while im here!)... how does the wider community around you react to you when they find that you are transgendered? do you get many negative reactions from people close to you, and if so how do you react to it?


peace
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[JasototheMAX]

I'm a FTM, planning on going all the way at this point. I've lived as a male, outside of school as it's quite hard to be accepted within the classroom as a male and of a different name, for 4 years now. I was offically given the "diagnoses" of being transgender almost a year ago after finally getting my grandmother to accept the fact, and refer me to "help".

I've come out to all of my friends, and I'm just now starting with my family. I've told my grandmother to call me Jason, the name I created for myself 4 years ago when I created an alter ego, per se. She wasn't too happy with that, she feels uncomfortable calling me "he" and "Jason". Instead of using the usual pronouns, and my birth name. I imagined they would all reacted in the worst way. However, they did. My friend, and the family that I've told, all don't seem to care. For me, it was more like "Oh... That's not really surprising. I kind of figured." Then, I have my girlfriend, who I met 4 years ago when I first came up with the idenity as Jason, who loves and accepts me for me, as Jason and not my birth title and sex. I almost want to say I have it better than some, I've always kind of given people that "Are you SURE that's a girl?" feel, rather than the "Wow, look at that lesbian." and I've had alot of support from the person I love as well.

I'd say, the best way to "come out" would be just to take a deep breath and say it. Don't think about the problems that'll come from it, or how someone might react. It's better to just come out and tell it, or you'll kill yourself with the pain of keeping it inside. Having to answer to a name you hate, constantly called a "she" when you try to hit it as much as possible. Come out, tell those you trust the most, the important people, and teach them what it is to be transgendered. If they don't understand, then you either have to keep trying, or try to move on as much as possible.

As my therapist says "You chose the roughest road to travel, you have to be ready to deal with every bump as it comes."

[Adamness]

I do have a question for you though (while im here!)... how does the wider community around you react to you when they find that you are transgendered? do you get many negative reactions from people close to you, and if so how do you react to it?For me, reactions were mixed when I first came out. I was 15 and in high school [small town, pretty conservative]. Most of my friends reacted pretty well- many people had never even *heard* of transenderism before, so they had to form a quick opinion on the subject when I came out. many other people in my school/community reacted pretty badly though. I got into a fair share of physical fights, got verbally harassed a bit...but I was pretty much the most openly queer person in the school- I ran/started the school's queer alliance, so I was a good, easy target. A lot of the other queer kids didn't necessarily get it as bad as I did, which was good, I guess. After high school, I moved to NYC and the reactions were mostly much more accepting. At work now, I'm out to about half of my coworkers and bosses and haven't had a bad reactions yet. I've ha a few isolated bad reactions from others outside of work, but not from any close friends. Everyone else's reactions have ranged from supportive and totally accepting to indifferent.

As for how I react to the negative reactions, I tend to try to ignore them. They don't really get to me any more. The same goes for the negative reactions I've gotten from people close to me [some people in my family initially reacted badly]. Basically, if they can't accept who I am, we shouldn't have been close in the first place.

[honeyfugle]

thankyou both for the two great responses. :)

i have another question....
have you ever tried supressing your inner male-ness? (yeah, i know, male-ness isn't a word... :) )
did you dress as an ordinary woman? for how long? and why?
how did this affect you?
did you feel like you wanted to be male more after supressing your true gender? (in the same way as if a tourettes sufferer tries to hold in a tic, the urges to tic increase the longer it is supressed? not that i am relating transgenderism to tourettes!)

thanks in advance! sorry, i know its a lot of questions! i just love to learn about other people and their lives!

Basically, if they can't accept who I am, we shouldn't have been close in the first place.
exactly! :)
that reminded me of a little quote that i say to myself quite often:
"Don't be afraid to be who you are, because the people who matter don't care, and the people who care don't matter!"

thankyou for reading,
peace and love
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[JasototheMAX]

i have another question....
have you ever tried supressing your inner male-ness? (yeah, i know, male-ness isn't a word... :) )
did you dress as an ordinary woman? for how long? and why?
how did this affect you?
did you feel like you wanted to be male more after supressing your true gender? (in the same way as if a tourettes sufferer tries to hold in a tic, the urges to tic increase the longer it is supressed? not that i am relating transgenderism to tourettes!)To your first question, I've tried before I came up with my alter "idenity" of Jason. I used to try as much as possible. I would dress as a normal female, which felt very weird. Since I was younger I was alway tomboyish, never dressed really girly, but I tried to become more "girly". I tried for about a year or two, it just left me more confused then anything else. In a way, it did make me want to be more male. Once I decided to give up my feeble attempt at forcing myself to feel a certain way, I became a more happy person. I no longer wanted to be something I wasn't, or tried to become something I wasn't. I accept what I found myself to be.

[Anachronism]

I was always a big tomboy when I was younger, I hated wearing skirts and anything frilly, and oh Goddess, don't even mention makeup!

But then I got into high school, and I guess I was trying to 'fit in' - at least as much as a hippie goth punk dude can fit in. I started wearing makeup, started embracing my female body more, but when I got to college, I didn't really have to 'fit in' as much. I had a large and supportive group of friends and it was over the past four months or so that I really started exploring my gender identity.

Now, I'm a drag queen at heart. I have found that I love looking feminine and dressing in female clothing, but I also want to live as a male and I want to take testosterone so I can grow a goatee - that's my biggest goal as far as being male goes right now!

I'm sort of at the halfway point between genders right now. On the one hand, I enjoy embracing my female body, but on the other hand, I also enjoy embracing my male mentality. I'm going to have top surgery, but for the sake of my partner I believe I am not going to get bottom surgery. She's had some bad experiences with men in the past, so I can live without the full package deal if it means she'll be happy.

Right now I'm seeking harmony between male and female. If I could, I would remain intersexed my whole life. I would let people call me both by my male name and my female name, and use both masculine and feminine pronouns. (I can imagine the conversations: "You know Richard? She's a hottie." "Yeah, he is!" - lol!) But unfortunately, society and the government feel it is necessary to classify the world with a binary gender system, when this simply isn't how some people are.

I've also found that when I am dressed as a male, I feel a lot better about my body, because I am about a size 14. I know that's not bad, and I know that I have a nice if slightly plump figure, but when I bind my breasts (no easy task, to be sure - I have D cups) and present myself as male, it's suddenly okay to be a little larger than everyone else. For some reason society doesn't shun larger males the same way it shuns larger females.

I'm rambling. Haha. So I'll just post this and then be on my way.
Peace!
-Rich

[honeyfugle]

I was always a big tomboy when I was younger, I hated wearing skirts and anything frilly, and oh Goddess, don't even mention makeup!

HAHA!! i know what you mean! as a child i was definately like that! in my primary school (age 5-11) when all the girls would be in their summer dresses, there's me, the odd one out wearing shorts. i probably would have worn them in high school for the first few years, but they dont even let boys wear shorts there so...

yeah. well... the reason i am so interested in FTM is because i could have ended up on that journey myself. all through my life i was so masculine, and would shun being a female at any opportunity. when i was 9 i took the name George and told everyone i was a boy (with long hair). so they called me a "he", called me George and i hung around with the boys fighting, wrestling playing Dragonball Z and Star Trek, and getting into trouble with the teachers (the teachers all called me George too, strangle enough, and so did my parents).
i was like the typical 9 or 10 year old boy... but in a girl's body. i made a point of always wore boys clothes, right down to BOYS UNDERWEAR. i wore boys vests, boys underpants, boys t-shirts, boys jeans, boys trousers.... just because i wanted to be a boy so much. i would turn my nose up at any girls clothing.

i remember on a holiday camp i was on (summer 2001) the "play leaders" (as the were called) made a film of everyone on the camp, interviewing a few people. i was filmed saying i hated girls because all they liked were shopping and barbies. i said on camera that i wanted to be a boy.

i always said i was going to get a sex change as soon as i was old enough to.

this carried on a bit into highschool, then puberty came along when i was 13. in retrospect, i guess this was a bit of a subconscious gateway with two paths. one path was to stay as masculine as i had been since a little child and probably end up getting the sex change i always said i would have, and the other path was to embrace my femininity and go towards being a woman.
obviuosly something in my subconcience wanted my to go down the second path towards being more and more feminine. or perhaps god and goddess chose this for me, i dont know.
the people here must have gone on the first path and carried on embracing their masculine side. :)

and this is why i feel connected in a way to the FTM community.

love you all
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[eechi]

Yeah I tried embracing the femme side of me because i wanted to be popular and get male attention. Sadly, it worked ><! So i did it for about3 years, but my male-ness always managed to rear its head. I found myself more often than not, wearing the sports gear, which made me feel very 'manly' XD, and everynow and then i'd speak in my normal voice and behave in my 'normal' way, and people would freak out coz i'd, like my male cousin, taken on a very 'thuggish' attitude that kinda scared people. Prob freaked them out more coz they saw me as a small, 'fragile' looking girl ><.
Eventually this 'pretending' to be something I wasn't started to really fuck me up, mentally, and i knew i had to break out or go crazy. And it's been a slow but steady pace to get to where i am today. XD!