I am the second coming of Jesus Christ

[Kandahar]

I am the second coming of Jesus Christ. I wrote about my return in Revelations, and I have chosen this internet message board to make my return. It is up to you all to spread the news to the world. If you don't believe me, you'll burn in hell for all eternity.


P.S. Any Christians who don't believe me prove themselves to be hypocrites.
P.P.S. Anyone who DOES believe me is more gullible than I thought possible.

[BlackVelvet]

LOL! Nice (Your message you have entered is too short) <--drives me crazy.

[NaykidApe]

Cool! So are you going to take all the christains away like you promised?


Us non-christains are crossing our fingers.

[bandit28]

What an attention seeking moron. Perhaps if you are going to ridicule something, you might want to learn abut it first. But you keep showing the masses how stupid you are, you just make us look better.

[HonkyTonk]

Wow, just........wow. I really wish i had the linguistic skills to describe how moronic you are.

[Kandahar]

You guys just prove my point that you're all hypocrites. You preach on about how the end is near and Jesus will soon return...so how do you know I'm not Jesus? The truth of the matter is, even if Jesus DID return, you wouldn't believe him. You'd probably call him a cultist and a heretic and a blasphemer, and drub him out of society. If Jesus came back, it would pose the biggest threat to Christianity the world has ever seen. It's nice to think that things would be different for him this time around, but you guys would crucify him again.

[brothersun]

The funny thing is we as believers will know and there will not be any doubt. But for the unbelievers they will have no clue, but how would they don't believe.

[Kilgore Trout]

Oh yeah?

Well I'm motherfukin Rick James, BITCH!!!

[brothersun]

You guys just prove my point that you're all hypocrites. You preach on about how the end is near and Jesus will soon return...so how do you know I'm not Jesus? The truth of the matter is, even if Jesus DID return, you wouldn't believe him. You'd probably call him a cultist and a heretic and a blasphemer, and drub him out of society. If Jesus came back, it would pose the biggest threat to Christianity the world has ever seen. It's nice to think that things would be different for him this time around, but you guys would crucify him again.
Hey man true christianity has nothing to do with the dogma of the church which is man made. We believe he came and died for our sins. We just have to believe in him and what he had done. Its pretty simple. But don't confuse the religion with christianity there is a big difference. And yes there are going to be many so called christs in the last days. But the true believers will not be decieved. But many so called believers will. It will be an exciting time.

[Epiphany]

You guys just prove my point that you're all hypocrites. You preach on about how the end is near and Jesus will soon return...so how do you know I'm not Jesus? The truth of the matter is, even if Jesus DID return, you wouldn't believe him. You'd probably call him a cultist and a heretic and a blasphemer, and drub him out of society. If Jesus came back, it would pose the biggest threat to Christianity the world has ever seen. It's nice to think that things would be different for him this time around, but you guys would crucify him again.

Actually, Jesus coming back will pose a threat to non-believers.... The second coming is judgement time. Christ is coming back for his believers.

[abbadabba]

Actually, Jesus coming back will pose a threat to non-believers.... The second coming is judgement time. Christ is coming back for his believers.But if he does come back, you won't believe him for the same reasons you didn't believe Kandahar.

[StonyTheStoner]

Dude when Jesus comes back its said that he will come down from heaven and trumpts will blow and all that good shit, and people will REALIZE its him. Its more He comes back, takes the believers away, and than the world goes into a 7 year period that eventually ends humanity... you need to read the bible before you go bashing a religion, get your facts straight.

[Epiphany]

But if he does come back, you won't believe him for the same reasons you didn't believe Kandahar.
The true believers know....

John 10:14: "I am the good sheperd, I know my sheep and my sheep know me".
John 10:27: "My sheep listen to my voice, I know them, and they follow me."

When the last trumpet sounds, Jesus's true followers will know

When the rest of the world turns to the antichrist and takes the mark, they will look at us the same way they looked at Jesus. They will call us heretics and blasphemers, for not conforming to the one world religion that will take place. It's all in the Bible.

[Varuna]

I am the second coming of Jesus Christ. I wrote about my return in Revelations, and I have chosen this internet message board to make my return. It is up to you all to spread the news to the world. If you don't believe me, you'll burn in hell for all eternity.

P.S. Any Christians who don't believe me prove themselves to be hypocrites.
P.P.S. Anyone who DOES believe me is more gullible than I thought possible.

You guys just prove my point that you're all hypocrites. You preach on about how the end is near and Jesus will soon return...so how do you know I'm not Jesus? The truth of the matter is, even if Jesus DID return, you wouldn't believe him. You'd probably call him a cultist and a heretic and a blasphemer, and drub him out of society. If Jesus came back, it would pose the biggest threat to Christianity the world has ever seen. It's nice to think that things would be different for him this time around, but you guys would crucify him again.

I am going to treat you the same as I treat everyone, regardless of who you think you are.

Peace and Love

[POPthree13]

Hey man true christianity has nothing to do with the dogma of the church which is man made. We believe he came and died for our sins.
That message.. thathe came to die for your sins IS EXACTLY the dogma of the church that you have swallowed. Jesus didn't say that. A corrypt Rome trying to control it's populous and roll out a new religion did. Jesus said none is good but his father in heaven... that he was a messenger. Instead you choose to deify him and destroy his message.

[Brocktoon]

Pop,


Just curious,, where do you get this belief that Rome created the New Testament and please give me some sort of resources for your dedicated absolute faith in this story?

[by that I mean the historical references.. .not another persons website who is also just assuming its true]

Looking forward to your reply.

[POPthree13]

Brocktoon.. the references are very easy to find. Do you really think just making a list of them will pacify you? Any solid book and the early history of Christianity will do. And I mean a real historical account. The councils in Rome and the methods Paul used to spread the religion are well documented. Now if you beleive these cousils were totally flawless then I guess your religion is too. But these cousils were made up of mostly illiterate christian leaders (also built and inspired by Pauls flawed teachings) AND highly educated, corrupt roman officials who has a sincere interest in making the religion a be-all solution to an increasingly diverse and unsettled population. It is quite clear that Rome (hosting the councils) had the final say in all building of the bible and had veto power over the creeds that came out of it. There is NO evidence in the bible for many of these assertions, so... where the hell do you think they came from?

[POPthree13]

PS: I never said they created the New testament. They assembled what they wanted, left out waht they didn't, destroyed what contradicted, and implied a lot of stuff that exists nowhere in the text.


Why do you think they went to such extremes to enforce their religion throughout history? If it was truth... irrefutable and complete then it should stand on it's own. You shouldn't need to execute free thinkers, scientists and those who question if it stands on its own,

[POPthree13]

Some Books for you...


When Jesus Became God: The Struggle to Define Christianity during the Last Days of Rome (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0156013150/qid=1091812265/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Triumph: The Power and the Glory of the Catholic Church: A 2,000-Year History (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0761529241/qid=1091812458/sr=1-28/ref=sr_1_28/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

The Gospel According to Paul : The Creative Genius Who Brought Jesus to the World (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/006009656X/qid=1091812373/sr=1-20/ref=sr_1_20/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Jesus and the Lost Goddess : The Secret Teachings of the Original Christians (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1400045940/qid=1091812265/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

The Historical Mary: Revealing the Pagan Identity of the Virgin Mother (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1569753342/qid=1091812458/sr=1-23/ref=sr_1_23/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Theology for the Community of God (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0802847552/qid=1091812458/sr=1-24/ref=sr_1_24/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0960285016/qid=1091812458/sr=1-26/ref=sr_1_26/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Daily Life at the Time of Jesus (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0687048915/qid=1091812458/sr=1-21/ref=sr_1_21/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Apocalypse in Rome: Cola di Rienzo and the Politics of the New Age (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0520233964/qid=1091812458/sr=1-22/ref=sr_1_22/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

The Jesus Mysteries: Was the "Original Jesus" a Pagan God? (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0609807986/qid=1091812373/sr=1-15/ref=sr_1_15/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Church History In Plain Language Updated 2nd Edition (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0849938619/qid=1091812265/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Early Christian Women and Pagan Opinion : The Power of the Hysterical Woman (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0521567289/qid=1091812265/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_8/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Short Life of Christ (Highlights in the Life of Christ) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0802818242/qid=1091812373/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)
Pagan and Christian in an Age of Anxiety : Some Aspects of Religious Experience from Marcus Aurelius to Constantine (The Wiles Lectures Given at the,) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0521385997/qid=1091812265/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Doubt, a History: The Great Doubters and Their Legacy of Innovation from Socrates and Jesus to Thomas Jefferson and Emily Dickinson (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060097728/qid=1091812265/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_10/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)


Introduction to the History of Christianity (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0800634969/qid=1091812373/sr=1-11/ref=sr_1_11/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

The Road To Rome, A Modern Pilgrimage (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/094180769X/qid=1091812373/sr=1-12/ref=sr_1_12/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Trailing Jesus (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0967929628/qid=1091812373/sr=1-13/ref=sr_1_13/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Religion in American Life: A Short History (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195158245/qid=1091812373/sr=1-14/ref=sr_1_14/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

[bandit28]

The Bible does stand on it's own. It doesn't need to be added to or taken away from. I find it funny you accept other historical events in our worlds history but you and others like you continue to deny Jesus and The Word of God. Funny, yet predicted. You live your life like you want, nothing we say or show you will make you change this. Until you find the need to form a relationship with Jesus Christ you will never understand us or our faith. Daily The Bible and it's contents are attacked. Daily The BIble stands up and slams these desputes. You are nothing new. You are the same people that were against Jesus when he was alive. You are the same people that saw Him walking among us after He died on the cross. You are the same people that listen to Satans lies and believe everything he tells you. You are the same people that denied Him and will deny Him again. You made your choice, we made ours, why do you feel the need to attack our faith? Well, if you would read The Bible, you would know why.

[POPthree13]

The Bible does stand on it's own. It doesn't need to be added to or taken away from. I find it funny you accept other historical events in our worlds history but you and others like you continue to deny Jesus and The Word of God. Funny, yet predicted. I have done no such thing. I beleive what Jesus says... but not what was invented after his death. His message is simple and doe snot include a lot of hocus pocus.


You live your life like you want, nothing we say or show you will make you change this. Until you find the need to form a relationship with Jesus Christ you will never understand us or our faith. Daily The Bible and it's contents are attacked. Daily The BIble stands up and slams these desputes. You are nothing new. You are the same people that were against Jesus when he was alive. You are the same people that saw Him walking among us after He died on the cross. You are the same people that listen to Satans lies and believe everything he tells you. You are the same people that denied Him and will deny Him again. You made your choice, we made ours, why do you feel the need to attack our faith? Well, if you would read The Bible, you would know why.First, you know NOTHING about how I live my life or my beliefs. Your judgemental assertions make you no more of a Christian. Jesus taught often about the Pahrisees who pay lip service to religion, who act so pious, yet do not seek the truth. I would be willing to bet I have spent 10X as much time in my bible as you have and I still read it almost daily. I think Jesus came to bring us a message and I will defend that at any chance I get. The lies that have been told in his name, the killings, the coersive conversion, the fear the hate the judgement. These are not the teachings of Christ. WHo is denying his teachigs? Look carefully and answer truthfully... not to me. You have nothing to proove to me. Let God decide who has litened to the message. Let him decide if a violent power hungry organization which has violently converted to world was the will of a man who wandered the wilderness telling people that God lives in each of us and that the establishement of the church destroys this relationship. It is easy to see who really passes judgement. I am not attacking a religion, I am sheidng light on its history in an attempt to help people see what Jesus was saying. It is far more important than what the church will teach you.

[NaykidApe]

I am going to treat you the same as I treat everyone, regardless of who you think you are.

Peace and Love
Wow, if he actually WERE Jesus I think he'd be cool with that.

[Brocktoon]

PopTHree..


I have to say, Bandit asks the right questions.
Im currently trying to find sources for your belief that most of the New Testament is fraudulent.

So Far, I have read about several of the Councils and found the references to scriptures already in circulation before the Councils.

So far... (and im still searching) I can find almost ZERO reason to believe this story of the fraudulent New Testament is true?

The only thing I have found is 'assertions' or simply suspicious assumptions.

Now this is fascinating really...

There are numerous 'evidences' for the New Testament being 'Legitimate' including verification of historical names and places
- Gospels and early writings which reference and validate the other books and/or writers.
- Also.. comparing early manuscripts from one location (example Turkey) with other early manuscripts ( example Egypt) and determining the 'probability' of them matching based on timelines and migration.

So you have 'no problem' dismissing any of these things
Yet
You readily and eagerly accept some modern authors 'conspiracy theory' of history without any real evidence whatsoever - just because it 'must' be true.
??

If you can give me some internet article links to some archaeology and history sites providing any evidence of this 'Roman Rewrite' incident - I would appreciate it.

[POPthree13]

I have never asserted a rewrite. You are looking for the wrong sources. We have discussed the councils who developed the bible before. This is no matter of contention. I said that the councils chose what to include, what to disclude and in that way shaped the religion form then on. I gave you a list of books as long as my arm. Read one. If you choose internet sources here are some...


http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_ntb1.htm

http://members.aol.com/DrSwiney/corrupt.html

http://www.christianstudycenter.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=69

http://www.tyndale.cam.ac.uk/Scriptures/www.innvista.com/scriptures/compare/gospels.htm

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_john.htm

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/kking/ntdocs7.html

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2004/006/7.26.html
http://www.meta-religion.com/World_Religions/Christianity/The_Bible/gospels.htm

[POPthree13]

http://www.blueletterbible.org/study/intros/mark.html


http://watch.pair.com/another.html

http://www.cresourcei.org/biblestudy/bbmatt1.html

http://www.bede.org.uk/seekers5.html

[Brocktoon]

I have never asserted a rewrite. You are looking for the wrong sources. We have discussed the councils who developed the bible before. This is no matter of contention. I said that the councils chose what to include, what to disclude and in that way shaped the religion form then on. I gave you a list of books as long as my arm. Read one. If you choose internet sources here are some...

I already have many books on the subject in my personal library.
You gave me links to ones I could order from online bookstores - and I dont have that kind of Cash.

Thanks for some of the links.
Several of them are simply repeating the same theory.
The theory is simply that - a 'supposition'.

Someone is simply saying 'The Gospel of John was written 90ad'
No reason to believe that other than him 'saying so'.

Then the popular "Q' theory is raked over again.
Its not real and no one has any real evidence of 'Q' - its just something they imagine 'could' have happened.

Several abberations are highly touted. Passages rarely found in other documents.
Your 'nefarious' Councils were conservative and responsible and erred on the side of safety sometimes.

I did enjoy this link you gave:
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/kking/ntdocs7.html

I thought that did a nice job of explaining why the critics are silly.

Dr.Swiney made me laugh.
Almost his entire theory is based on complete and utter assumptions and conclusions he simply 'imagines might happen'.
Example.
Several times he reminds the reader that Gospels were 'handcopied' and simply 'asserts' this makes them 'less trustworthy'.
WRONG
It makes typo's possible but it does NOT mean entire sentences become different ones LOL!

BedeLibrary was another good link you suggested
http://www.bede.org.uk/seekers5.html

What do you make of that?

Popthree,
Sorry to keep on about this theory of yours but .... Your now agreeing that these Councils did nothing more than confirm and agree on the ALREADY accepted texts?
I thought you had said the Councils changed the texts they had in order to manipulate the foolish dumb public into 'acting Christian'?

Please clarify.
Did the Council of Nicea change any of the texts they had received?

[bandit28]

You know, people can claim The Bible has been changed, or edited, or whatever all they want. However, I just look at The Bible for more proof. Remeber when God removed the Jews from Israel? Why did He do it? Because they did not obey God when He said every 7th year they must let the land rest. Ok, so we know that Israel for a while was a desolate area. Hardly anyone in it. In The Bible however, God speaks of a time when His people will return to the land. I believe it was in 1947 when Israel declared itself a soverign state. Interesting. If your theory is correct, that the Roman Church watered it down, kept what they wanted to believe, and threw out the rest....interesting that things like this would remain in The Bible and would still come true. Wonder how the Romans knew to keep this information in tact? Man I wish I could remeber scripture off the top of my head. What about the part where it is mentioned that Israel will provide vegitation and fruit for the world or something similar to that? Interesting to know that when Europe is blanketed in snow during the winter, Israel exports over 1.5 Billion in fruits and vegitables. Man those romans you talk about sure knew what to keep in The Bible huh?

Look, time and again The Bible has been proven to be true. The one thing I can be sure about, even if I can't quote scripture off the top of my head, is that I can ask for guidence in any situation I face at anytime, and know that God will send The Holy Spirit to help me find my answers. When I prayed for guidence on how to deal with Mormons and their faith, God simply pointed out a couple of flaws in that religion. When I pray now, in reguards to the things I read in The Bible, I do not feel I am being lied to. I am not warned to turn away from The Bible.

I don't know, I am tired, it is 6:17 am here in Houston. I can see the sun begining its peek over the trees. So, I am going to go to bed, pray that God protects me today as I try to live my life acording to His will, and pray that America doesn't choose to turn it's back on Israel anytime soon....that is, unless the romans made up that part as well.

[Epiphany]

and pray that America doesn't choose to turn it's back on Israel anytime soon....that is, unless the romans made up that part as well.
I doubt that we will. The Bible study that I was taking says this: (Since know that the beasts of revelation represent nations or more specifically, nation's emblems)
"The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle" (Revelation 12:14)
Now, we know that Mary (the woman), who was pursued by satan (the dragon) because she was to bare the Lord (the male child), had to flee due to king Herod's decree. However, we might also assume that the woman may stand for Israel as well. The eagle's wings could respresent the Unites States since Israel doesn't really have any allies other than us.

[bandit28]

I doubt that we will. I know we are going off topic, however, I wanted to clerify here. The Bible clearly shows us that "in that day" meaning in the latter days everything will be centered around Gods chosen land and people. That would be Israel and the Jewish people. One day America will turn it's back on them, and when that happens, that wil be the begining of the end.

[peace_sells]

hmm,

not attacking the faith, but I would like to point out that ... well.. do you believe in the Nommos? please google them or something, it's interesting. People still don't believe in them but so many things have become true that have been passed down through the years in the tribe. They knew about all our solar system before we did and everyone said it wasn't true etc just like people do in Christianity. So who's to say that we all shouldn't become Dogon's or something?

[FreakyJoeMan]

Dude, Dali Lama mon's been comin and goin fer a while, and Hey-sus is jus comin round to it? He's got some catchin up to do, if ya ask me.

[dna]

Hey man true christianity has nothing to do with the dogma of the church which is man made. We believe he came and died for our sins. We just have to believe in him and what he had done. Its pretty simple. But don't confuse the religion with christianity there is a big difference. And yes there are going to be many so called christs in the last days. But the true believers will not be decieved. But many so called believers will. It will be an exciting time.
:) Please don't let these loose moraled alley cats get to you!
If they really believed in what they claimed,they wouldn't be
here. They would have better things to do than be on a message
board around christians,and they certainly wouldn't be trying to
prove anything.
I think America should kick their nasty butts out of here!
They just keep on thinking the world will always be free
and not realizing that freedom isn't free. Most of these
sad individuals live off of other people and the Government.
They don't have nothing else to do.They call themeslves free
thinkers because they are mostly made up of free loaders.
God is the only one who truly allows us to think for ourselves.
atheists are the loose,and the very ones spreading V.D. while
they are trying to find their true selves. some don't even know
if they are straight or gay,and many of them love and adorn porn and curse words. see their misery? Yet,it hasn't even hit
them yet that their way of life is the cause of their depression,and poor outlook on life and the world.
They want the right to be free to sin,and not have to pay for
it like everything else they don't pay for.
pray for them,and don't let them get you down. God wants you
to spread his message so just do what he wants and move on.
Hang in there. Remember,you live for Jesus Christ,not the world.

[Co0kiezGurl]

:) Please don't let these loose moraled alley cats get to you!
If they really believed in what they claimed,they wouldn't be
here. They would have better things to do than be on a message
board around christians,and they certainly wouldn't be trying to
prove anything.
I think America should kick their nasty butts out of here!
They just keep on thinking the world will always be free
and not realizing that freedom isn't free. Most of these
sad individuals live off of other people and the Government.
They don't have nothing else to do.They call themeslves free
thinkers because they are mostly made up of free loaders.
God is the only one who truly allows us to think for ourselves.
atheists are the loose,and the very ones spreading V.D. while
they are trying to find their true selves. some don't even know
if they are straight or gay,and many of them love and adorn porn and curse words. see their misery? Yet,it hasn't even hit
them yet that their way of life is the cause of their depression,and poor outlook on life and the world.
They want the right to be free to sin,and not have to pay for
it like everything else they don't pay for.
pray for them,and don't let them get you down. God wants you
to spread his message so just do what he wants and move on.
Hang in there. Remember,you live for Jesus Christ,not the world.
WOW, you made a LOT of assumptions in that post dear.

[Epiphany]

God wants you
to spread his message so just do what he wants and move on.
Hang in there. Remember,you live for Jesus Christ, not the world.


Good point! In the end, all you can really do is plant a seed and hope it grows. God knows what is in everyone's hearts and that is really all that matters.

[Kilgore Trout]

"I pray to Joe Pesci...cause there's a guy that can get shit done".

-George Carlin

[Psychocat]

[Quote]I am the second coming of Jesus Christ. I wrote about my return in Revelations, and I have chosen this internet message board to make my return. It is up to you all to spread the news to the world. If you don't believe me, you'll burn in hell for all eternity.[Quote]


Fuck off you bullshitter I was having a bong with Jesus and he said you know fuck all.

[mynameiskc]

kick ass list, pop. i would add Jesus in History as well.



Some Books for you...


When Jesus Became God: The Struggle to Define Christianity during the Last Days of Rome (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0156013150/qid=1091812265/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Triumph: The Power and the Glory of the Catholic Church: A 2,000-Year History (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0761529241/qid=1091812458/sr=1-28/ref=sr_1_28/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

The Gospel According to Paul : The Creative Genius Who Brought Jesus to the World (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/006009656X/qid=1091812373/sr=1-20/ref=sr_1_20/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Jesus and the Lost Goddess : The Secret Teachings of the Original Christians (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1400045940/qid=1091812265/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

The Historical Mary: Revealing the Pagan Identity of the Virgin Mother (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1569753342/qid=1091812458/sr=1-23/ref=sr_1_23/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Theology for the Community of God (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0802847552/qid=1091812458/sr=1-24/ref=sr_1_24/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

The Unknown Life of Jesus Christ (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0960285016/qid=1091812458/sr=1-26/ref=sr_1_26/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Daily Life at the Time of Jesus (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0687048915/qid=1091812458/sr=1-21/ref=sr_1_21/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Apocalypse in Rome: Cola di Rienzo and the Politics of the New Age (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0520233964/qid=1091812458/sr=1-22/ref=sr_1_22/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

The Jesus Mysteries: Was the "Original Jesus" a Pagan God? (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0609807986/qid=1091812373/sr=1-15/ref=sr_1_15/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Church History In Plain Language Updated 2nd Edition (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0849938619/qid=1091812265/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Early Christian Women and Pagan Opinion : The Power of the Hysterical Woman (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0521567289/qid=1091812265/sr=1-8/ref=sr_1_8/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Short Life of Christ (Highlights in the Life of Christ) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0802818242/qid=1091812373/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)
Pagan and Christian in an Age of Anxiety : Some Aspects of Religious Experience from Marcus Aurelius to Constantine (The Wiles Lectures Given at the,) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0521385997/qid=1091812265/sr=1-9/ref=sr_1_9/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Doubt, a History: The Great Doubters and Their Legacy of Innovation from Socrates and Jesus to Thomas Jefferson and Emily Dickinson (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060097728/qid=1091812265/sr=1-10/ref=sr_1_10/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)


Introduction to the History of Christianity (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0800634969/qid=1091812373/sr=1-11/ref=sr_1_11/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

The Road To Rome, A Modern Pilgrimage (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/094180769X/qid=1091812373/sr=1-12/ref=sr_1_12/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Trailing Jesus (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0967929628/qid=1091812373/sr=1-13/ref=sr_1_13/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

Religion in American Life: A Short History (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195158245/qid=1091812373/sr=1-14/ref=sr_1_14/104-1544621-9379926?v=glance&s=books)

[Harmony_rain]

wow I didn't know Jesus was from Baltamore?!

first of all. Anyone that comes claiming to be Jesus will not be glowing with the radiance of the lord. Second, the Lord will come with all his powers to smite out the non-believers at the end of all time. That time is not here
Lastly, Jesus will not comunicate with us over the internet.

[Harmony_rain]

hahahha psychocat.

[dna]

You know, people can claim The Bible has been changed, or edited, or whatever all they want. However, I just look at The Bible for more proof. Remeber when God removed the Jews from Israel? Why did He do it? Because they did not obey God when He said every 7th year they must let the land rest. Ok, so we know that Israel for a while was a desolate area. Hardly anyone in it. In The Bible however, God speaks of a time when His people will return to the land. I believe it was in 1947 when Israel declared itself a soverign state. Interesting. If your theory is correct, that the Roman Church watered it down, kept what they wanted to believe, and threw out the rest....interesting that things like this would remain in The Bible and would still come true. Wonder how the Romans knew to keep this information in tact? Man I wish I could remeber scripture off the top of my head. What about the part where it is mentioned that Israel will provide vegitation and fruit for the world or something similar to that? Interesting to know that when Europe is blanketed in snow during the winter, Israel exports over 1.5 Billion in fruits and vegitables. Man those romans you talk about sure knew what to keep in The Bible huh?

Look, time and again The Bible has been proven to be true. The one thing I can be sure about, even if I can't quote scripture off the top of my head, is that I can ask for guidence in any situation I face at anytime, and know that God will send The Holy Spirit to help me find my answers. When I prayed for guidence on how to deal with Mormons and their faith, God simply pointed out a couple of flaws in that religion. When I pray now, in reguards to the things I read in The Bible, I do not feel I am being lied to. I am not warned to turn away from The Bible.

I don't know, I am tired, it is 6:17 am here in Houston. I can see the sun begining its peek over the trees. So, I am going to go to bed, pray that God protects me today as I try to live my life acording to His will, and pray that America doesn't choose to turn it's back on Israel anytime soon....that is, unless the romans made up that part as well.
:sunglasse Those who tried to add books to the bible were found out,
and those books were taken out. It's a great story how we got
our bibles,and all the hard work,love and dedication it took to
get them. People like William Tyndale risked their lives so we
could have a bible in our own language,and it's amazing how
satan could stop the bible,no matter what he did or how hard
he tried. Pray for the peace of ,Israel,and America!

[dna]

:sunglasse Those who tried to add books to the bible were found out,
and those books were taken out. It's a great story how we got
our bibles,and all the hard work,love and dedication it took to
get them. People like William Tyndale risked their lives so we
could have a bible in our own language,and it's amazing how
satan couldn't stop the bible,no matter what he did or how hard
he tried. Pray for the peace of ,Israel,and America!:sunglasse It's very important to note,the Romans didn't write the bible!
The Jew's wrote it,and it was written in Hebrew and Greek.
The Roman church is not the true church,nor the first church.
also,there are some Baptist churches that outdate the roman
church,but the jew's were the original early christians like Paul,
and he was no catholic,he stood out against the catholic church in his teachings,and they killed him.
Constantine mixed pagan religion with true christianity,and
thats how we got all the mixed up churches today. They are
the daughters of the Mother Harlot church.
Many early christians started believing the pagans when they
lied and told them that christmas and easter and all those days were to worship God,and thats how they got passed down to all of us.
If you find out what vatican means in a good dictionary or
encyclopedia,you may be surprised.
For a good online encyclopedia that will explain christmas
and easter,ect... to you,you can try : www.guru.com/?afid=91302012 (http://www.guru.com/?afid=91302012)
www.encyclopedia.com/ (http://www.encyclopedia.com/)
www.infoplease.com (http://www.infoplease.com/)

also read in the book of Jeremiah 10:2 thru 8

[dna]

WOW, you made a LOT of assumptions in that post dear.
:) No,I didn't make any assumptions,this is what is seen,
and many of them don't even have the sense to hide it from
the public!
I hope I didn't offend you,but you can look around for your
self. You don't have to be snide. The people who hate God
don't look like they really have any idea what they are doing.
How does it do anyone any good to spend all their time-
trying to spread anti-God messages?
Atheists have already lost the fight,and not just here in
America either,it's Global.
Remember,they call it world peace!
Besides that,who could ever get rid of the Pope,or the Catholic
religion? The public knows all about it's secrets and that church is still here and going strong. Atheists won't be able to
shut that church down,and if they can't get the Catholic church
then they can't get no church to stop preachin'.
face facts,atheists are out numbered and soon,out-lawed!
An Assumption you think? I don't think so.

[dna]

"I pray to Joe Pesci...cause there's a guy that can get shit done".

-George Carlin
:sunglasse In your mind,you may actually believe that,huh?

[dna]

[Quote]I am the second coming of Jesus Christ. I wrote about my return in Revelations, and I have chosen this internet message board to make my return. It is up to you all to spread the news to the world. If you don't believe me, you'll burn in hell for all eternity.[Quote]


Fuck off you bullshitter I was having a bong with Jesus and he said you know fuck all.:H Do curse words give you a sense of pride and well being?
How could something like the lake a fire be fearful to the
unbeliever?
If you don't believe in it,you don't fear it!
Every time you cuss,you just add a brand new curse to your
own life.
Why don't you just go outside and sit on a brick and slap
the wacky out of yourself?

[dna]

wow I didn't know Jesus was from Baltamore?!

first of all. Anyone that comes claiming to be Jesus will not be glowing with the radiance of the lord. Second, the Lord will come with all his powers to smite out the non-believers at the end of all time. That time is not here
Lastly, Jesus will not comunicate with us over the internet.
:sunglasse Do you have any meaning to this,or are you just bored
and like to play on message boards?
The mocker invites a beating upon his own back!

[mynameiskc]

lol. and jesus also said that when he returns, ALL will know. if someone says he's in the other room, you can call him a liar. meaning being, if he was in the other room, EVERYONE would know.

[dna]

I know we are going off topic, however, I wanted to clerify here. The Bible clearly shows us that "in that day" meaning in the latter days everything will be centered around Gods chosen land and people. That would be Israel and the Jewish people. One day America will turn it's back on them, and when that happens, that wil be the begining of the end.[/font]
:) You bring up an excellent point!
Lets pray that doesn't happen,because America needs Israel
though many of us are not aware just how much.
God has a great plan for that nations.
www.vicmord.com (http://www.vicmord.com)
www.levitt.com (http://www.levitt.com)

[campbell34]

I am the second coming of Jesus Christ. I wrote about my return in Revelations, and I have chosen this internet message board to make my return. It is up to you all to spread the news to the world. If you don't believe me, you'll burn in hell for all eternity.


P.S. Any Christians who don't believe me prove themselves to be hypocrites.
P.P.S. Anyone who DOES believe me is more gullible than I thought possible.
Well you failed the test, because if you were Jesus Christ you would of already split the mount of olives, you would of walked throught the East Gate, and you would of been received in the temple on mount Moriah. No, your not Jesus, your just another Liar. Sorry im not impressed.

[MagicMedicine]

Well you failed the test, because if you were Jesus Christ you would of already split the mount of olives, you would of walked throught the East Gate, and you would of been received in the temple on mount Moriah. No, your not Jesus, your just another Liar. Sorry im not impressed.
Hes going to be a busy man when he gets here. He has a lot that you "believers" want him to do.

[JesusDiedForU]

Hes going to be a busy man when he gets here. He has a lot that you "believers" want him to do.
Strong rebuttle...... http://hipforums.com/forums/images/icons/newicons/icon13.gif