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05-20-2004, 06:41 AM

Some of us believe that there should be some kind of revolution, and some of us believe there is no hope for such a thing. Some of us feel kind of bad becuase the power of the White House even freaks out some of us living under the general safety of Canada. The thing is, most of the revolutions people talk about sound more like revivals. I think that kind of revolution happened then because it was the right time. Though I wouldn't know anything about that revolution, because I wasn't even remotely alive. Neither were half the people who want it to happen.

We have to accept it, Jendi, we missed out. We're living in the time of cell phones and pills that make penises bigger... Escalades and lap top computers... you get the picture...They were living in the time of black lights and easy access to blotter sheets, or at least that's what I seem to have collected.......

Regardless, the times have changed. 76% of the populus would probably shit themselves and die if something happened to their sound financial security.

By the way, Jetblack, don't be angry at your parents... look into those pills I was just talking about, bro. Everything should be up to check after that.:D

Anyways, maybe a bunch of you revolutionists should get together and have a little reenactment like the Civil War weirdos do. I'm sure it would be alot of fun, you know, something to do on Friday night with your activist friends and meet cute boys before you have to go BACK TO SCHOOL ON MONDAY!!!

AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! :mad:

kilted2000

05-21-2004, 07:27 AM

I've read plenty of posts like this, but what are you going to do about it? Actions speak louder than words.

Crush

05-22-2004, 02:50 PM

So true, A hell lot of people are saying that we need to change stuff, let's do it. I suppose you could start on the internet. That's closest to everyone so....
Anyone ideas? Make a good site with all the people here and post on every forum possible, make it so people get our message. Open the internet and see our message. Might be an idea

Edward G.

05-23-2004, 01:01 AM

I love your sig pic Jendi. :D *lick*

misc

05-23-2004, 04:46 AM

It doesn't matter what we do. The only people that have a say in this world are the people that are getting paid mucho amounts of money and end up lying to us in the end and kill _thousands_ of innocent people.

We have no voice anymore. Not when innocent muslims are jailed because they are thought to be terrorists. Not when they are not charged with a crime.

The whole thing is just pure all-american bullshit. Nothing more, nothing less. But us young'ns have NO voice. It's terrible...

NatureFreak412

05-23-2004, 06:13 AM

grim_rebel

05-23-2004, 11:12 AM

We are the future. Whether you like it or not. The only thing we can do is spread a message of love and compassion. Once we become the teachers, politicians, doctors, economists, soldiers and fill every facet of civilisation, only then can we make a difference. Only then can we decide, say, to drop it all. To not go to work and migrate to the forests, to watch nature cover sky-scrapers and deteriorate nuclear reactors.

I thought about this a while ago, i was trying to persuade my stoner buddies on picking a date in the future when we'd all just quit. Economy would shatter, politics would be rendered useless, borders would disappear (as if invisible lines mean a fucking thing), the earth would rehabilitate itself and the cancer of man will be cured. Cheers.

Embody that which you want to be. If we live in the assumption that there is no government, there will be no government. Much love.

Crush

05-23-2004, 01:05 PM

How can quiting your job help? You'd just be someone who quite his job and goes to live in the forests. It wouldn't help a thing. It'd only help if you would do that with like a few million people all over the world. Else you'd just be someone who quite his job. so....

grim_rebel

05-23-2004, 01:47 PM

...You don't say?????????????????

Perhaps I need to clarify myself, I meant it in the sense of a LARGE amount of people quitting their jobs. In the range of say, a billion people minimum. Mostly economy-related jobs though, as that would just royally fuck things up. Which is what we want right?

At that point, it would be in one's best interest to join a militia. :)

Crush

05-23-2004, 01:59 PM

Quote: I thought about this a while ago, i was trying to persuade my stoner buddies on picking a date in the future when we'd all just quit

Uhm how many stoner buddies do you have man! That's a hell lot of stoner buddies :D.
Anywayz. I don't think that we could change the world by killing economie. They had economie in the 60's too. And in like all the rest of time. It's much better to just try to change it with other ways then quiting along with a billion other people. That would fuck up the world greatly. There would become a great differance like in people who have money and people who don't. And the people with all the money could make an effort out of it. It is just a stupid and way to radical idea. Becuase if there's no economy then WTF you're gonna change. Just change the world in a sublte way. And if a billion people use a subtle way, things will change eventually and it'll all be nice and cool :p

grim_rebel

05-23-2004, 03:50 PM

I disagree. I believe a radical change is the only change we can have. Perhaps a couple hundred years ago, a subtle change would have done. But now with the NWO, Bilderburg Group, Trilateral Commission, Bohemian Grove, OPEC-type elitist fucks, a subtle change would give them all they need to enslave mankind through, yes, ECONOMY. You're all fooling yourselves.

The hippy-movement was never pursued to its full potential and besides, you think the hippy-movement, in regards to that time-period, was SUBTLE??????? During America at its most conservative, you believe the hippy-movement to be subtle? I think it was, if not is, one of the most radical movements of all-time. Why else would it be so notorious (given the perspective).

I think you misunderstand me once more. There would be no difference in rich and poor, because there would be no rich. 'They' might as well use their money as toilet paper, because no banker will be working, no stockbroker broking, no airline pilot working, what's the point of money in a place where no one recognizes it?

We're seriously over-working our earth, our population has yet to plateau and we keep raising the amount of food needed. As cynical as you may interpret it, let me lay out the facts:
1) Say, ten years ago we had 5.5 billion people
2) To feed the poor, we'd make food for 6 billion people
3) Now we have <6 billion people
4) Now we're making food for 7 billion people
5) Soon we will have 7 billion people
6) It. Will. Never. Stop.

Or actually, it will. Sooner or later the Rothschilds will take their place at the top, that is, officially. Money will be electronic and thus give bankers the ability to loan an infinite amount of money. I really can't delve into this a huge amount, I can give you references, hell, i can't even say it will happen. But it's a lot better than saying, "fuck it, let's just take it sloooowly" when all the other shadowy bastards are running it for all its worth.

Whatever dude, all i'm saying is that a radical change is needed. You say no, I say yes. There's no problem in disagreeing.

Crush

05-23-2004, 05:01 PM

I do agree that this world is over-worked. Almost everything is about work and not just work-work. It is like working a lot, trying to be important, getting a good job, making a lot of money. This gives too much stress. You have to do lots of stuff with money to buy a house, or to be sure you have something when you're old, to put you're kids to school. The problem is you have to do this in these times. The problem, I'm totally un-intrested in it. Money is pure evil. It makes people greedy, make them lie and betray, just to have more money. Everything costs money and a hell lot. That sux.

Crashing the economy might be an idea indeed, but you'll need a lot of people who totally agree with you. And crashing the economy is possible, but not like: let's do this now! Everybody has to be in that state of mind, all must think the same and how will you achief that? If you ask me there's where the subtle stuff get's in. Because if you all go radical, people will see you as something bad and not good, and you want to achief good, right? So we should find a way to change people and let them see how it can be the other way. If they agree, you could go more radical. And actually take action.

Now I see a lot of people on this forum who already think like :"damn, we have to do something, this is going all wrong!" And there are more of those people, all over the world. So maybe it is time to actually do something. Make up our mind of what we're going to do. Plan it and dot it. Because just talking like:"it has to change' is nice, but if you don't do shit, there's no point talking about it.

Maybe my time view (or whatever) was wrong. The hippy movement was radical of course. I suppose that protesting in that time was pretty radical. And these days, it's nothing real special. Sorry for my lack of time view (or whatever)

Everything is going to be electronic, and it is already improtant and it's going to be even more important. So I think we should do something with that. you could do something with the internet. If you begin like a protest group of all the people. Make sure everyone knows of it, by giving the message on the internet, television etc. So people get intrested and read about it, then we will have even more people, don't give them the change to not know about it.

We need an event to trigger all the people to make up there mind and start protesting and changing all over the world. I suppose we should work on that event.

grim_rebel

05-23-2004, 05:48 PM

No need to apologize man...

Sigh... I suppose in some respects I am like you. I've set my mind on living in the forest for the rest of my life, meditating, cultivating, hunting, seeing the things that I eat, rather than having to go down to some uber-market and buying what has been slaughtered by the thousands... In some sense it is selfish, but I don't want anything to do with humanity. I would rather live my life as close to nature as possible until either someone moves me or I move myself.

Then again, I see that as selfish and believe that it is my duty to help the world, if I know that help is needed. And it is. I don't know exactly how to do it, as i've realized that things are easier said than done. On the internet many talk the talk, but cannot walk it. Or fight it.

I was thinking of joining the army, which I probably would, for experience and perhaps the chance to persuade some people there to fight for what is 'right'. Sigh... but we are just kids, the powers that be are too mighty for us. The only way would be to persuade kids without the powers knowing, it is hard to change the way adults think. It is hard to tell anyone that what they are living for is bad and that they're beliefs are wrong, not false. Everything is true and false.

What we need is equilibrium. And to reach equilibrium we need sacrifice. You may ask why, and here it is:

I have reason to believe that humans have surpassed their capacity to solidly support themselves. We have the illusion that at this rate, we can still live 'normally', but that is only because everything is interdependant on a multitude of other factors. One must get to the source of all troubles. And you said it. Money. Hence, to eliminate money you must eliminate capitalism or contemporary capitalism. I do believe that small social tribes can live a capitalistic-communist life, but i don't believe in a 'central government' to govern EVERYONE. That is wrong, no one should be governed. Everyone should co-exist in tolerance, dignity and honor, without passing judgement nor being judged, with access to needs and the abilities to forge wants from tools and the environment. I believe that a person should only want what he or she can make or find, unless of course we're talking about the opposite sex :).

I think the only way that we can abolish government is to live in the assumption that there is no government. If we spread the word of, "hey, live like you want to!" and enough people follow it, then people will have the ability to live as they want. Sometimes the most simple answers can solve the most complicated questions... You don't want money, don't work for anyone else but yourself. Go live in the forest with me and we can work for each other ;). Does that not sound much better? To work for each other rather than FOR someone? I suppose working with each other and working for each other is the same thing... is it not?

NatureFreak412

05-24-2004, 12:12 AM

nicely said grim rebel and i back u 100% on that

grim_rebel

05-24-2004, 11:03 AM

Thanks NatureFreak,

So I suppose, a question of change ultimately stands upon what our priorities are as a collective youth. Perhaps a wide-spread internet poll might help, but i do not have the expertise to flood the World Wide Web with a single poll. I just think, that as time goes on i'll devote myself further into inspiring a nature-oriented change, and indeed, was this not the essence of the hippie movement?

Crush

05-24-2004, 04:58 PM

Sounds nice man, but you're english is too damn good :p I seriously had to read stuff multiple times. I think it is way better to live in a sort of commune. Just take care of one another. You wouldn't need money, becuase everyone helps to support the commune. You could just live outside of the rest of the world, in peace. With just your own gardening and hunting meat. That'd be so cool, I might just do that someday :rolleyes:

grim_rebel

05-24-2004, 05:09 PM

YYou could just live outside of the rest of the world
Are you sure it is us who would be living outside the world? Don't you think that it is modern civilisation who has distanced themselves from the 'world'? Hmm... ;)

Crush

05-24-2004, 05:22 PM

correct of course. I meant like civilasation, get away from the city, away from the mindeless people etc. etc. The world or nature isn't that important anymore to most of the people :(

But I suppose you could'v already guessed what I meant of course ^_^

grim_rebel

05-24-2004, 05:59 PM

Hahaha, of course i knew what you were referring to. I just didn't know if YOU knew what you were referring to. I'm like that, i get people to clarify themselves, don't worry, i'm doing you a favor in the long run so you might not confuse another person not as intelligent as myself. :p :D

Oh, and in this commune of ours. We're gonna have lots of weed right? Weed and home-brewed booze. The men go out hunting and patrolling their boundaries, the women forage and cultivate and prepare the feast, we all get fucked up every night, wake up, repeat. :)

NatureFreak412

05-24-2004, 07:14 PM

It would be nice to turn the whole planet into small groups of communes. abandon the cities for a while then go back and spread liike seeds and shit and let the forests take over the cities. I bet if some natural disaster killed off a lot of people thats the way it would be.

Crush

05-24-2004, 07:55 PM

There's gonna be lot's of herb man :D Never drank homemade booze though. The good thing is, live has a purpose for once. Now I just go to school, when I'm graduaded got to work, when I'm retired I chill (this is an example, I chill most of the time :rolleyes: ). There isn't a real purpose. Yes, staying alive that is, but that isn't real hard.
Now in a commune which takes care of itself, there'll be a real purpose: make sure you have food, herbs (some stuff to put on meat or in a salad too!) water, necesary clothes etc. And you'll have to work for it. And I think it will be lots of fun :) Must certainly try it one time with some friends, just as a test.
Now for NatureFreak412 I agree. This would be an excellent change to recover earth and let it heal. I don't even think you'd have to plant seeds. I'd rather just trow a bag of seeds somewhere and see where it growes, let the wind carry it. In no time there'll be plants and trees everywhere. There'll be more animals meaning: FOOD.The weak won't survive though, that's just a fact. So there won't be a problem of over-population, I know that doesn't sound nice, but that is just the way it should be. People are protecting themselfs with all sort of things nature never gave them :mad:
It might be hard to make all the world go on the commune tour :P

I am backing this plan 110 % ,it rules!!!

grim_rebel

05-24-2004, 08:12 PM

Indeed... i had a long conversation with my parents concerning survival. The disabled and obese would not survive. Only those who can adapt.

On a lighter note, I tried posting in the old forum about a commune. My mother is from Madagascar and we can buy a lot of nice land by the beach there. Only a few people were interested, i don't think they found me too serious. But land there is cheap and beautiful, we can trade with the outside world for small supplies, but hopefully we'll be self-dependant. I'd either live there or in the forest in Canada, where i am a citizen. I also back this plan, i really find it more important than dying with the most possessions.

jackovgoesjacko

05-24-2004, 08:15 PM

you gotta be fuckin' kiddin' me. ok, heres the thing. i have a chance to buy this guitar for around 150 bucks and it is said to retail for 350. it is made by Maxtone guitars and is custom made with special features. I want to know if anyone knows shit about the playability, tone, and if this is a good guitar to invest in.

I also, if anyone has a clue, would appreciate feedback on both the guitar companies of Cozart and Standell. Specifically, the Cozart EG-1280 model.

THanks all
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grim_rebel

05-24-2004, 08:24 PM

ummm... what? :confused:

hahahahahaha

Crush

05-24-2004, 10:05 PM

I know a lot about guitars. The thing I know most is that a post about guitar shouldn't be put in a thread wich contains a serious discusion.:mad:
I don't like the guitar, it has got only one bar so the sound can't be terribly good and what the hell is the speaker thing in the guitar. I would never pay 150 bucks for this and as you can see, the package has already been opened so....

grim_rebel

05-24-2004, 11:14 PM

Hmm...a random post indeed. But we digress... That reminds me Crush, guitars would come in very handy. Can't do without music now can we? We'll make our own drums and stuff, use every part of the animal - i used to be obsessed with native-life and pretty much know how to use almost every part of the buffalo... oh well, i gotta say again i never saw that post comin. Totally....whack. lol cheers.

Crush

05-25-2004, 09:22 AM

Impressive!!!
I must say I don't know that much of animals, just a bit. If I'd go to a commune I would certainly bring a guitar and make some own stuff, couldn't do without it.

tool420

05-26-2004, 07:31 AM

grim_rebel

05-26-2004, 09:01 AM

Getting back to the whole revolutionary thing. Not to bum you guys out or discourage you, but revolutionaries never realized they were revolutionaries. Except maybe after the revolution. I think that revolutions will just happen as needed. But, I also think that the effects of a revolution are temporary. Hard to explain that last part. Just look at history and you'll see what I mean. That's all I got right now. Too tired to think more. I might post after I sleep. Gimme something to read when I come back.
That's not entirely true. I think you've been influenced by one-too-many impressive quotes. I'm currently reading Leon Trotsky's auto-biography, and he along with the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks declared themselves not only as revolutionaries, but Professional Revolutionaries. Still, I do know where you are coming from; a man fights for what is good, this might be a revolutionary act coming from the view of others, but the man only knows that he is fighting for what is right etc... Furthermore, if you took the time to read the last parts of the thread, you might have come to the conclusion that we were not, if indeed we actually were, talking about revolutions. The discussion progressed to one of simply living in the forest, of leaving civilisation - as Crush so eloquently put it. Cheers.

Spiritforces

05-27-2004, 12:43 AM

This was an answer to the ones who say i heard this before what you gonna do bad boy?

I know what am going to do about it

And this was pretty useless, i ve been cheated by the guitar stuff lol :)

But music help

grim_rebel

05-27-2004, 12:52 AM

whoa... lost you there buddy.... :confused:

Crush

05-27-2004, 06:12 PM

Well said, grim_rebel. He should've paid more attantion to the last part. There might have been some referation to the charactics of a revolution, but the conlusion was something totally differant.

grim_rebel

05-27-2004, 08:40 PM

cheers mate... well, only time can tell... if you'll be on here for a while yet till we graduate, we may actually pull through with it. If anything, it'll be a fucking cool experience. Take a year or two off, live in nature, what's that to an 18 year old (graduated from highschool)? Everything's good man, everything will be alright. Peace unto you. :)

Crush

05-28-2004, 12:33 AM

I think it'd be a great experience. Something you won't ever forget. Even if you live like that for like 2 years, or maybe even less, it would always stick with you. You can at least say you did some serious stuff back there in the good old times :D
I'm planning to be on this forum for some while, having a great time here :)
peace on you to ^_^

Veritas

07-27-2004, 04:48 AM

WE could pull a fight club act of terrorism, by reseting everyones bank account to zero.

Nathan11

07-27-2004, 06:15 AM

Heres what I think, if we had at least half of the will power and organization they had in the 60s we could make a difference, all it takes is a leader, and some followers, we could take over.... We just need someone to step up and rally the people together, hell I would do it if it wasnt for me being only 16.
The leader has come. His name is Tim DeLaughter. He is here for us all. Just read his magnificent words.

Here. (http://thepolyphonicspreelyrics.tk/)

He has come.

Veritas

08-01-2004, 03:23 AM

Its too bad most of the original leaders are dead. Theres still Dylan though.

loverofthewoods

08-01-2004, 04:22 AM

the government isnt going to take as much shit as they did in the 60's...there is too many of them and too few who care

RetroGroove_Grrl

08-01-2004, 02:52 PM

Well, one reason there probably wont be another hip revival for quite some time is, There isn't conscription. Therefore, people who would take an interest in fighting the war's development is greatly reduced.

It's good that there is no conscription, but the result is a lack of passion to end its injustices. Most people simply arent interested in what doesnt affect them personally.

Crush

08-01-2004, 07:31 PM

YAY, I'm back again. Blackie, the focus thing isn't our fould, there was just this strange dude who posted stuff about his guitar. He's the one not focusing.

peaceisluv89

08-02-2004, 07:18 AM

I think thats a solid idea, I hear that man...We can make it happen man.

Oh, um, when u cats figure out a way, um u know let me know, but I'm down with ya !

Crush

08-02-2004, 02:18 PM

I think it's a good idae to have a leader. Someone or some people who stand up and everybody is like:"Yeah, totally true, let's do this" I've read all the posts again and it's a pretty good idea. I've talked with some friends about this and I know some people who are planning to do kind of the same. Go out of society and have an anarchy state somewhere. It might be a good idea to have just small little villages everywhere and maybe some big cities. I think that if we'd do this and learn how to use electricity which is good for nature and use that, it'd be good for nature. Since everyone lives in small villages, there'll be enough power for everone. I suppose it'd be a good idea, it'll bring more peace and pro-nature things. But it is of course a big thing to do. It'd be best if there'd leaders staning up in different countries saying we should do this and everybobdy agrees. But this might be a little too idealistic, but it might happen, I might just do this sometime :D

hippygurlsmokinweed

09-02-2004, 09:16 PM

if there goeing to be anther hippy revolution i want in

Psy Fox

09-04-2004, 07:21 AM

Beatle Kat

09-06-2004, 05:15 PM

WOW,the idea is really great!I hope with all my heart that it will happen soon!:)

cobcottage

09-12-2004, 02:37 AM

I have a crush on the guy at the end of this clip.

http://2002.ksl.com/news-3742i.php?p=1

He's my hero...

whispers

09-12-2004, 04:53 AM

I have a crush on the guy at the end of this clip.

http://2002.ksl.com/news-3742i.php?p=1

He's my hero...

................thats disgusting I did not know a guy could do that with his penis.

cobcottage

09-12-2004, 01:11 PM

He is joking, the guy is talking about being homeless as a child.

Here is an interesting article about young hippies-

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/02.29.96/hippie-9609.html

People I know who spent their childhoods on communes are now forming successful intentional communities and there children (tweens and teens now) are going to be the ones to lead us into the new century. If you think about it as a tradition, rather than as "people tying to recreate the 60's" it is much easier to envision.

Eruna

09-13-2004, 06:01 AM

hey, i back the revolution man, i think the idea of living in the forest is a common thought, whenever i meet a human who believes in the ability to govern ones self, to worship and follow not a figure, but the path nature takes us on, and to llive it the fullest and to provide for ourselves

-Laura

hathor2

09-13-2004, 10:36 AM

It is not a bad idea to build new comunes and become selfsufficient. Eat the good stuff and get in touch with your spitituality. Many old Hippies lost ther courage and turned sooo konservative. Its time to teach the joung ones there skills and knowlege about farming,building and how use dope ( if they want) safe and beneficialy. Start to love and respect each other and work together. PLEASE VOTE.If Bush stays Australia is going with US down the gurgler.:mad:
Love and peace. Make love (kondoms) lol not war.
Hathor2

Goddess Om

09-14-2004, 05:21 PM

See how they did it in the old days and what they are doing with it now:
http://www.thefarm.org/ (http://www.thefarm.org/)

In Australia we have groups of young hippies living communally in the forests, being as self-sufficient as they can be. They just go into the nearest town to get the basics, stuff they can't make themselves...they go in with their dreads and bare feet...the others call them "Ferals"...I guess because they are wild.

You know it has to be about getting back into harmony with nature. You don't have to think in terms of huge numbers of people. The main thing is to make a start...5 people forming a group can become 40 or 50 and that will be a commune.

When we protested in the 60's, we just did it because we felt passionate about something. Feel passionate and do what you can. Don't wait for a revolution, be one! Be a one-person-revolution. Listen to music that inspires you. Communicate and protest. If you feel you can't do all that much, for whatever reason, support someone who is...either with your time or your money or your good vibes.

Get together in small groups and brainstorm. Plan actions and protests. You CAN change the world...one day after another...little by little. The longest journey begins with one small step; so take your step now.

Looking back the sixties look glamorous, but most of us were just trying to assert our rights and not lose ground. Our right to have long hair, our right to listen to loud music...our right to protest...our right to smoke...our right to think differently than our parents and the rest of society expected us to think...our right to be different, creative and authentic.

You don't always realise it at the time, but the resistance provided by those who oppose you can be a catalyst to inspire and energise you...adrenalinise you...keep you pushing forward.

There is nothing happening today that is fundamentally different than it was back then. Yeah, technology is here, but your enemy is still apathy, conservatism, greed, selfishness, lack of compassion, discrimination, ignorance and fear. It is what is in people's hearts and minds that you need to work on and work with. The rest of the crap is just window-dressing.

Peace

seda-azul8

10-03-2004, 10:05 AM

heartsnotfarts

10-03-2004, 08:13 PM

it would be sweet as hell if it happened again but nowadays too many people are into rap and hip/hop... they watch the videos then live on a false dream of violence and brutality, at the same time being harsh to hippies or even those who are for peace like me. but idk... i learned in history that the prgressive era was in the 1890's-1910's. the hippie era was from like 1955-1975?? so if thats a trend, then the next era will probably be like 2020-2040. that would be sweet, but im like addicted to the idea that theres gonna be another movement. 2020 even sounds like a cool year

Goddess Om

10-05-2004, 10:16 AM

yeah man..right on there BUT..Do you think that they'll go along with it..?

Its not the 60s man..but yea..right.. try tellin' me that man..
I reek of 1965-70.
I cant stand this generation..its so uncomfortable..for me and others like me..For Us..

I want to die and go back to the 60s..The Man never 'goes along with it'...people have power if they never give up speaking out. We need musicians and artists of all kinds even more now than we did back then. Express yourself. That's the essence of it. Don't just sit down, shut up and think that it's all hopeless and too hard. We didn't have any idea of how powerful it could be. We just knew what was right and thought it would be cool to stand up and be counted. You all think that we knew that what we were doing was going to make a big difference. No. We didn't. We just did it anyway. So stop looking at the long-term outcome and just do what you have to do today. You are this generation, and thank god/dess people like YOU are. Don't let yourself be defeated before you even start. There are plenty of us elder hippies who can help and encourage you. Start it. Just do it. We need to join forces, young and old. That should do it...Peace...

cobcottage

10-09-2004, 03:37 AM

I found what you said about "Ferals" interesting...sounds like friends of mine, LOL!
Somebody even did a "thesis" on the phenomena-

http://www.confest.org/thesis/fiveindex.html

Bare Foot Bunny Hugg

10-20-2004, 01:53 AM

Lets do it come on..!

PeaceArtist

10-24-2004, 01:48 AM

mellow_hendrix

10-24-2004, 01:59 AM

i think we should all get lit and jump off buildings
wooo orange county :)

oh and in reference to your sig

wooo urethra chronicles

loveflower

10-24-2004, 09:56 AM

I think that if there is going to be a "revolution" it will come when it does. We need to work on ourselves and not others. Everything will happen when it does.

voodoochile

10-26-2004, 02:31 AM

I suggest that we act together as soon as possible instead of waiting for a revolution, start one. Nature will take its course indefinitely, but a revolution can begin withone person

voodoochile

10-26-2004, 02:32 AM

I suggest that we act together as soon as possible instead of waiting for a revolution, start one. Nature will take its course indefinitely, but a revolution can begin with one person's motivation and integrity.

Goddess Om

10-26-2004, 03:45 AM

I agree it should start now.
I'll tell you something that is hopeful. If you know anything about astrology, and the Venus transit that happened a few months ago (Venus passed across the Sun) - anyway - some have speculated that this heralds the start of the Golden Age. The beginning of this happens between now and the Venus transit that is due to happen in 2012 (when the Mayan calendar predicts a major transition). So now is the time!
We all need to come together. It can start in small groups. Find out who lives near you and meet once a month. Come up with an issue or an area you feel passionately about, and commit to some kind of action in the month ahead. Each one can have a role and comes back the next month with more feedback for the group. Eventually lots of little groups could get together on a regular basis and plan bigger actions/protests etc...or just support eachother in whatever way is needed. If you are too far away to meet in person, then form an action group online and meet up that way.
Communicate with eachother and then find a way to make a big noise out there in the world. An old quote: "All it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to do nothing". So it is up to us to start to do something, even if it seems like just a little thing. We plant a seed, we nurture it, and in time it grows into a strong and healthy tree. So just follow mother nature's lead.

cobcottage

10-26-2004, 04:18 AM

It has already started; it always has been and it always will be-

http://www.hippy.com/php/article-243.html

littlemistymop

11-09-2004, 12:20 PM

this is my ultimate dream.. I dont believe that we hippies ( a small minority ) can change the world. i think there will always be war and hatred and fighting.
the best we can do is make peace and love in a place of our own away from everyone who doesnt want it.
we have to act on this, whoever said they tried to set up a commune but no one took them seriously, thats sad. if someone had contacted me or if I knew a single person in australia who wanted it as bad as i do, i would act right now.

where are you aussie hippies? or you overseas dudes, get over here australia is beautiful and there is so many gorgeous spots of land to set up! :)

RainbowGrl4Jesus

12-04-2004, 04:06 PM

One person is not going to be able to be the one that changes the entire world...but look at how many of us are on the forums. I would think that would be enough to at least start some sort of "revolution", if you will. I know that our numbers are nothing compared to the world population...but we have to start somewhere. We need to want it bad enough, be willing to sacrifice, , be strong, and take action. We need motivation, a goal, and the realization that if we all sit around being pessimistic...nothing good would ever result from our desires. Just something to think about. If you're truly interested and want to talk about some changes we could start making...pm me.

Free as a bird

12-04-2004, 05:04 PM

You know I think you guys are on to something. any ideas? I can spread it in Ireland

BlackGuardXIII

12-04-2004, 05:24 PM

I think that if there is going to be a "revolution" it will come when it does. We need to work on ourselves and not others. Everything will happen when it does.
Now thats what I'm talkin about....

TrippinBTM

12-05-2004, 12:06 AM

Now thats what I'm talkin about....
But in the end, it starts and happens because people do something. Somewhere, someone does something and it gets going. It might be many people, but it's people. We should indeed be working on ourselves, I agree fully. But coming hand in hand with working on our inner selves is working on our outer selves; they're warp and woof of the same cloth. Going in means going out, it should naturally follow that a peaceful person creates peace around them.

BlackGuardXIII

12-05-2004, 04:00 AM

But in the end, it starts and happens because people do something. Somewhere, someone does something and it gets going. It might be many people, but it's people. We should indeed be working on ourselves, I agree fully. But coming hand in hand with working on our inner selves is working on our outer selves; they're warp and woof of the same cloth. Going in means going out, it should naturally follow that a peaceful person creates peace around them.
I have some great sites to check out that have been set up by groups working on this since the 50's.
Will post soon.

TrippinBTM

12-05-2004, 03:06 PM

I have some great sites to check out that have been set up by groups working on this since the 50's.
Will post soon.
Excellent, please do.

BlackGuardXIII

12-06-2004, 01:19 AM

http://www.lawoftime.org/

http://www.tortuga.com/index.html

http://www.13moon.com/

HippieFlowerGirl67

12-16-2004, 05:41 AM

That'd be fun!

Koko4

12-17-2004, 12:45 AM

I think there should and could definately be a hippy movement. I think the hippies should start out by forming individual communes in different places..that are mainly self-sufficient. There would have to be farmers and everything in the permanent community, but we could try to get everyone that feels this way organized together to start a temporary commune..just to test the idea and see how it works. We'd have to do it in a rural area because our own shelters and everything would be set up..

I'm in the Atlanta area, despite what my profile says (I'd love to be in beautiful BC though, that's my other idea). I sent a PM to RainbowGrl4Jesus who lives in SC.. we could meet up because school's out for winter break.

There's a place in the Atlanta area..it's a hippy commune and there's a community of hippies living together.. one of the houses has a tin roof and makeshift rooms. It's a really cool place. They have drum circles, fires, and an emu! :) Anyways, they formed the commune, and if you want to get inspired on how to get started, we could go talk to them. They would probably be more than willing to help us out and help us find a place. I think it's a great idea and if we could get some supporters we could definately make this work..

Let's start a revolution!:)
Remember John Lennon's words in Imagine:
"Imagine all the people, sharing all the world
You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
and the world will live as one"

Eruna

12-20-2004, 08:11 PM

im looking to join a hippie group...i really need like-minded friends...well friends in general...i prefer to remain alone if all i have to live with is ignorance and hate.

-Laura

environmental_junkie

01-14-2005, 05:53 AM

Can we make this a traveling commune?

Celine

01-19-2005, 09:14 PM

our world needs a revolution. like back in the old days. I agree, we young hippies must take action and change the world. It looks like sex is too taboo again, people around me seem to have trouble to even dress in a full ladies room! Homosexuality isn't fully accepted and the rulers are still the same. and also the environment isn't important to a lot of people. we need a change. revolution!

Archemetis

01-19-2005, 09:33 PM

i didnt read the whole post, but in my opinion the best way to instigate (R)Evolution is to start within. the most powerful thing one can do to heal their community is to heal themselfs. become a messenger of light and spread it outward.

Crush

01-20-2005, 10:35 AM

I'v just got this PM and there are quite some updates, so I'd like to reply again.

I think it's better to get into it, instead of out. I know I've said that a commune kinda thing would be cool and it still is, but to change things you can't run away with a commune sitting in a forest. Unless it is like, enviremental_junkie said a travelling commune, but one in which you travel trough the country and give people a message with a puppet show or drama for example.

Originally I had a 1 page story written here, but I pressed "back" so I lost all :eek: Anyhow, I think a positive attitude in general will do the thing. Like, send positive body language to other people and they'll sent it back, it will make you happy and the other person too. Example: It was the first day after the xmass hollidays and I had to go to class quite early for this 3 hour lecture. So basically I was very closed up, busy with myself, hadn't said 5 sentences between 7 and 11, so I didn't feel too well. After class I went to the local artshop to get some supplies. When I entered I send positive body language to the lady at the counter, said hi and got my supplies. When I paid and left, I did the same, made a little talk and said goodbuy. She replied my messages with a very positive attitude too and when I got out of the store I felt pretty damn good! These were of course normal positive vibes and no flirting kinda thing, or maybe they were, but the point it the same :)

I also discovered that no matter what you do, you influence people, directly or indirectly, conscious or unconscious. By typing this I'll influence you and you might start thinking about it and reply. I've also influenced the lady at the counter, just by talking to her. If I walk around with the worst attitude ever, I'll influence my surrounding. Just by looking at someone and give a smile, I can influence that person and make him feel better al of a sudden. Knowing that, you can change things without a revolution kinda thing. If you talk to people on say a station, you might see them more often becuase they're there everyday too and you might make them feel better because now they know they can talk to people. It's kinda hard, but if everybody reads this and does it, it will change. I saw that Celine for exampe is from the same country as me, if she's on the same platform as me, talking and sending positive vibes, the platform might become quite a happy place with everyone talking :) I know it sounds kinda idealistic, but if lots of people change attitude, without looking weird in other peoples eyes, it can work. I do think it's kinda hard, talking to strange people (what am I gonna say?!) but it's gotta start somewhere and by doing it you've broken a personal barrier as well, but still it's tough.

Celine

01-20-2005, 02:37 PM

I also discovered that no matter what you do, you influence people, directly or indirectly, conscious or unconscious. By typing this I'll influence you and you might start thinking about it and reply. I've also influenced the lady at the counter, just by talking to her. If I walk around with the worst attitude ever, I'll influence my surrounding. Just by looking at someone and give a smile, I can influence that person and make him feel better al of a sudden. Knowing that, you can change things without a revolution kinda thing. If you talk to people on say a station, you might see them more often becuase they're there everyday too and you might make them feel better because now they know they can talk to people. It's kinda hard, but if everybody reads this and does it, it will change. I saw that Celine for exampe is from the same country as me, if she's on the same platform as me, talking and sending positive vibes, the platform might become quite a happy place with everyone talking :) I know it sounds kinda idealistic, but if lots of people change attitude, without looking weird in other peoples eyes, it can work. I do think it's kinda hard, talking to strange people (what am I gonna say?!) but it's gotta start somewhere and by doing it you've broken a personal barrier as well, but still it's tough.
I agree with this :) If everybody will do this, and let people know how they feel and what their opinions are it really works! The revolution always starts inside. Most opinions are based on influences from outside. If we give people that kind of influences they might think the same way and our groups get bigger and bigger. :D

ruinedshadow

01-23-2005, 05:07 AM

okay everyone has been saying they want someone to make a move so here it is. it may take me awhile but I'm starting a forum just for this purpose. a way for us all to get together and coordinate our efforts. anyone who is actually serious about doing this can come and we'll talk we can arrange to meet in chat rooms and what not. we have this technology and I say instead of shunning it we embrace its capabilities. use this system to deconstruct greed and corruption stage simultaneous protests or at least get together and brainstorm in realtime and find a starting point. I've been waiting for this chance my whole life and I really want to do this we need to all work together not just separate into little scattered groups. we want a revolution and that takes planning tactics and more than anything we need to stop talking and actually do something I have alot of ideas and I really want to hear what everyone else has come up with. If we work together we can accomplish more than the hippie movement lets not emulate the past lets go farther. get all your friends get older hippies get anyone who will listen and just get the word out we CAN do something but it will take all of us together. if youre serious than get back to me on yahoo or aim or just PM me on the forum I Really want to start this

LaughinEyes024

01-23-2005, 05:15 AM

i spend everyday of my life attempting to start a revolution

StonerBill

01-23-2005, 06:12 AM

We need a leader

ruinedshadow

01-23-2005, 07:13 AM

no we don't need a leader, we don't need to follow anyone else, that is what we've all been saying we're tired of following someone else ideas, we need to work together I'll soon be starting a website for this purpose and I urge everyone to get in on this together we can do alot but if we all just sit around waiting for a leader then nothing is ever going to happen. But if that's what it's going to take then fine. I'll lead. SOMEONE has to start this and if no one else is going to do it without a leader then I am willing to do whatever it takes. I would rather it be a cooperative thing but no one else seems into that idea

violet_fairy_vixen

01-23-2005, 12:48 PM

Yeah I agree with this statement. why need a leader? Why not just actually have the guts to lead yourself? Why not just actually start a place where you can all just be together, who actually is going to go through with this, and not just be full of a bunch of words. I am all for this development. But, in all truth if only one person is actually going to have the balls to say I'll lead what's the point? Although, I'd help lead this plan into action with anyone such as ruined who is actually going to take a stand and not just whine, and complain about what an awful world it is. I want to see something actually done about it. If anyone actually wants to do something besides sit there and not just say they want to do something for it find me on aim or yahoo. Don't just say you want to do something, actually DO something!

LaughinEyes024

01-23-2005, 05:23 PM

hell yeah man *you must be the change you wish to see in the world*. the gandhi said it best. don't just speak of revolutions. make everyday of your life a part of that revolution. thats what i do. you actually need to rise up.
listen to the great bob marley:
"GET UP STAND UP STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS
GET UP STAND UP DONT GIVE UP THE FIGHT"
put your words into action and you will make a difference

violet_fairy_vixen

01-24-2005, 12:17 AM

So tell me mister great speaker of Bob Marley what do you plan on doing about it? I haven't really heard anyone besides ruined say that we should comply our efforts together on either a forum, or a website. Are you in or what? Because, we're totally in with the idea. Ruined is my fiance, and I know it might sound a little biased coming from me, but to be honest he has a really good idea. He and I both are right, people need to stop sitting there saying how much they hate having their lives run, while saying they want to start a movement, and then only asking for someone else to run it for them. My question is, how is that any different from the way their life is going now? Right now, they have someone leading them, maybe not the right type of leader. Because, it is a corrupt justice of government that we live in today. But, still someone whether it be authority figure, parent, etc is right now in fact telling them what to do. And from what I read, they weren't okay with having their life run. So why not change it? Why not become a part of this website or forum once it gets started? Why not help start it?

LaughinEyes024

01-24-2005, 12:30 AM

that's miss by the way. i was agreeing with you but adding on. i misunderstood what you had said at first but really i think we should start something. i have no idea about how to go about that on here. i was just trying to say that im all for that idea. websites and whatnot aren't my thing because im so horrible with technology. i definately want to be a part of this all. we all need to get together and make this work. im up for it. and im sorry, but i didn't mean to offend you which it seems that i did. definately hit me up on aim and let me know whats up with this.

lets do this shit man!

ruinedshadow

01-24-2005, 06:02 AM

hey I'm sorry I didn't mean to come off offensive. I didn't mean for it to sound like I was directing that at you either. I'm just so tired of everyone else not helping out in the slightest and always complaining. I just want for once for everything to change. I think it's really cool that you want in on it. My aim name's agonysreflection on aim talk to me any time ;p

Electricbuddha

01-24-2005, 08:43 AM

Before you go trying to change the world, You have to change your own world.

ruinedshadow

01-24-2005, 10:29 AM

First off that last message wasn't me, my fiance and I are having problems with our computer and it keeps switching who's logged in on us, anyway the site is up now it isn't finished. as I will need imput from everyone involved, but it's there. the address is http://www.moderndeconstruction.bravehost.com if anyone is gonna do more than talk then this is the place to do it. I think I've proven that I'm willing to do so. now who's with me?

tiki_god7

01-24-2005, 07:26 PM

" The world that we have made as a result of the level of thinking we have done thus far creates problems that we can not solve at the same level as the level we created them at" Einstein said that meaning that the problems we now face in the world were created at a level of thinking. If we continue to try to solve those problems at the same level of thinking that we created them at we are just going to be walking circles. In order to solve these problems we need to adopt a new level or new perspective of seeing it all.
or as Ram Dass says work on yourself....work on your consciousness find that perspective in yourself

violet_fairy_vixen

01-25-2005, 06:17 PM

Is everyone in this section going to do absolutely nothing at all? Are you all still going to just make up excuses for why you refuse to do anything to fix at least one problem for yourself? Maybe it is about consciencousness of yourselves. But, why speak for others, why try and push your beliefs off on to them? We aren't doing that, You were all saying you wanted a leader. Well now you have one, but yet you are still sitting on your gluteus maximuses doing absolutely nothing. So what are you just another bunch of deadbeats who do nothing but keep avoiding your problems and keep your issues in denial? Go to the site ruined posted, actually be a part of it and participate if you meant anything you said about wanting something to happen and be done about it,

Crush

01-25-2005, 07:54 PM

Checked out the site, nothing really there yet, there is a forum though, but, what's gonna be in it? I mean, we've got this thread for example, we could talk here or we could join up on MSN or whatever and have a group meeting, such sort of thing. Personally I'm curious to the actuall purpose of the site...you can do good things with it.

I liked the things you said about:"just spread the word to anyone who will listen" If we want to take action we should pick out our points, what we stand for, wanna change etc. Then figure out a way to "spread the word" If we do it right and lots of people co-opperate, we could spread the word all around the globe, since there are a lot of users with different countries in this thread. A good promoting example would be something like a logo, or a text that we make show up in the entire world and get "popular" So everyone gets to know it and gets curious about what it means.

I say promote because I think that's the way to go, think about what we want, than bring it to the people in a nice and attention full way, kinda of a marketing plan. If played correctly everyone will know about it :) What you're doing now at the moment is bad imo, when I read both of your posts I see and understand them as an aggresive or angry post, which is probably not your intention, but still bad image promoting. We shouldn't come across as agressive, nor floaty or anything, just have a good powerfull message. I do think ruinedshadow has quite some powerfull speach, which is good ;)

let me know...

the_dude

01-25-2005, 08:23 PM

our first move should be to go together, everybody, and take down Bush and the other devils! They got the guns but we got the numbers! I swear! one big wind of everybody whos against Bush would take them down! If we would act now i think we would succeed! We should just set a date when everybody whos against Bush should assemble and take them down!

LaughinEyes024

01-25-2005, 09:33 PM

RuinedShadow if you need anything for the site just let me know I'm all for this idea and I want to contribute in anyway that I'm needed.

NatureFreak412

01-26-2005, 11:49 PM

All it would take is one incident, one person to get the attentions of all the kids today and boom there could be another hippy movement. And yes we need a leader.

ruinedshadow

01-30-2005, 11:25 AM

I already have an idea for spreading the word, but I got a little burnt out from coding ad started seeing html in my sleep so I took a break for a few days, I've already got three other sites lined up who want to link together. and I'm starting a memetic enlightenment program which will serve as insripation to the masses but also spread word about the site. I'm gathering resources atm so it'll be about a week or so before I add some more content but it will come. I am very dedicated to this and as far as getting attention if there are any musicians out there then write us some good ól protest songs. peace for now, and later all

Obituary~Birthday

01-30-2005, 08:43 PM

i'm in. pm me.

Eruna

02-03-2005, 09:28 PM

sign me up!

voodoochile

04-04-2005, 01:16 AM

I've read plenty of posts like this, but what are you going to do about it? Actions speak louder than words.
Actions DO speak louder than words but wrongful actions make listening ears go deaf. I'm just trying to say spread the word and the love that is an action in itself. Activism is clearly the right path but lack of organization tends to cause problems. As children of nature we need to use our words and our actions to change the minds of the intolerant and ignorant.
peace, love, understanding and respect
ez

voodoochile

04-04-2005, 01:19 AM

SoundStepper

04-04-2005, 01:35 AM

Hey, heres the deal, ready, we live in a society that only cares about one thing, and thats "caring about yourself.", its messed up but its true, we don't have any cares in the world its just makin our parents happy and our parents are washed up into society. Sure we can all belive that this war is wrong, but really we keep out thoughts to ourselves because we are afarid of what others would think of us. we do need to gather in the streets and spread a message of peace!! We need to start something before its just too dam late!!

StonerBill

04-04-2005, 12:35 PM

It cant be done through violence, or ripping down of current system. it needs to be like a marijuana seed planted amongst a bunch of weeds, growing and leaving the land clean.
it cant be done by trying to replicate 'hippies' becauise the whole point of the original hippy movement was that it was new, never before done.
we need a new breed of hippy

and we DO need a leader.

this cannot be done if everyone is workign their own goals. one leader is needed to start a movement, or lead a movement, you are cheating yourself if you think that a movement such as this can be acheieved without some figure taking the lead at the start. multiple leaders and icons can follow. the first leader will msot likely be one step, and as it catches on, the group is lead by more and more.
The world culture is completely differnet now, a new and differnet approach needs to be taken.

most of the people here cant do anything caus theyre in school, lazy computer nerds, or simply dont have self confidence, like most people in this world.

when i said we need a leader, i wasnt saying that I myself did not want to strive to be this leader, or one of the leaders of tomorrow. I in fact do. but thats irrelevant to all people who want to lead and actually do somethign for the world, if there is the naivity to think that big thigns can be done without a unifying force.

the planted cannabis seed doesnt necessarily, or primarily represent infiltrating forces, though it most possibly could. it represents the growing of a new culture from beneath the surface of conservatism and neo-liberalism (which i think is detrimental myself)

this world thigns about one thing, ones self. thats partially because of the fear factor. partly, i believe because of the media, television, single player videogames, occupational health and safety regulations, the failure of the original hippy movement to hold strong (leaving people thinkngin all those ideals were foolish), the internet

back in teh 60's kids who wanted to play had to go out on the lawn and play with eachother. people werent afraid to band together and have communal gatherings (oh&s not prevents this largely). if people wanted to converse, they had to gather together. there wasnt the huge power of the media to let people recieve messages in their arm chairs. there werent forums such as these. imagine if we wanted to discuss all teh topics we do on tehse forums, wed have to actually go and talk with groups of people who want to discuss things. people can now put up any identity on the internet.

i dont know at the moment how we can overcome this gap in the new world. but it probably has to start in the shaping of the children of today and tomorrow. the influencing has to start before people are conscious of these problems, as it was in the past. i myself was subject to these things. not as much as the children of today and many other teenagers my age.

through music, through media, through finding ways to entertain our kids wihtout these destructive technologies. through making large venue thigns cheaper, less restrictive. through showing the imporance of certain values.

personally i want to be a musician to spread the music, a politition to change the laws, and a published philosopher to spread the message.

what do YOU want to do?

Aries

04-05-2005, 05:10 AM

Right On!!!!!!!! Lets Rock

TrippinBTM

04-05-2005, 03:28 PM

i dont know at the moment how we can overcome this gap in the new world. but it probably has to start in the shaping of the children of today and tomorrow. the influencing has to start before people are conscious of these problems, as it was in the past. i myself was subject to these things. not as much as the children of today and many other teenagers my age.

personally i want to be a musician to spread the music, a politition to change the laws, and a published philosopher to spread the message.

what do YOU want to do?
I'm going to sell my TV. We need to stop wasting our time with television. Either the negetivity and bias of news, or the distraction of regular programing (fuck, there's even a show CALLED "Distraction"! They're not even faking it anymore), it's all bad, it warps your mind, makes you lazy and unsure of yourself. We need to turn off the TVs, the internet, the radio. We need more meditaters, more people writing, meeting together and getting serious, not just drinking or doing drugs, which is about all kids do these days when they hang out.

I said turn off the internet. In a sense, it's great how we can reach so many people with blogs or email lists or whatever, but at the same time, we need to get together and BE with people. It's still isolation if youre communicating on the net, and what's more, it's just talking. We need to form or join clubs, groups (including school clubs), maybe some independant newspapers or some way of getting the message out.

The problem is, it's hard to start a movement, and I'm not sure anyone knows how to. Yes, there's a lot of discontent out there, and sometimes a man with a message can enact a mass movement, but generally, he's not starting it, just giving it form. We need critical mass, but it's hard to do with everyone drugged out on their TVs and money, worried, scared all the time. Were they scared in the 60s about speaking their minds? Maybe. But they harnessed that energy and did positive with it, rather than sit at home every night working on their next heart attack.

We also need goals. We know what we don't want...do we know what we do want? Where do we want to take this social reform? We need a manifesto, so to speak.

StonerBill

04-06-2005, 02:18 PM

yer i dunno, maybe television should just not be abused like it is? I watch it every now and then if an interesting program is on or a movie i want to watch but i can never relate to people whenthey walk about shows they watch caus i stopped watching television religiously about 3 years ago now i think. now im a computer bitch though.

A man said something very wise today. He was saying how old people often talk about how the younger generation have shit attention spans. but then he pointed out that our generation is able to concentrate on a much more diverse range of things or concepts at once, like playing video games or flicking around web pages or television channels or using multiple technologies at once. he made the observation that the newewr generations simply have different attention spans.

i wonder if THIS is what should be investigated and exploited for the good of the world?

TrippinBTM

04-06-2005, 03:59 PM

. he made the observation that the newewr generations simply have different attention spans.

i wonder if THIS is what should be investigated and exploited for the good of the world?
I dunno, because such a change as we're talking about (social reform) needs commitment, but our age group's attention spans are too short. Yeah, they can multi-task, but they can't stay focused on one thing for long enough. Instant gratification, that's what our generation is all about. Social change isn't instant.

StonerBill

04-06-2005, 04:19 PM

well maybe we need to find a way to get instant gratification in a way that premotes peace and social harmony?

maybe if everyone had sex haha

StonerBill

04-06-2005, 04:20 PM

smoking weed is pretty instant gratification lol

TrippinBTM

04-07-2005, 04:46 PM

Bill, people already are smoking weed and having sex. In a sense, both are distractions. Like, "hey, if you want to be happy, go smoke some weed and screw...don't change society." Not that there's anything wrong with sex or weed, haha.

There's just no way around it; we have to get away from instant gratification and learn to focus on long term, important goals.

StonerBill

04-09-2005, 03:31 PM

haha no i wasnt suggesting anything with the weed comment, merely stating it

Art Delfo

04-09-2005, 08:44 PM

Well im waiting for it but it never happens!!!!I cant change a thing with out other people.

Brokenchantress

04-10-2005, 01:54 AM

TrippinBTM

04-10-2005, 03:07 AM

were all waiting for something that wont happen unless we all join together...but how do we join together? ..i think all of us being here says something though...atleast we recognize theres a problem...isnt that the first step? we should, we should, we should, why dont we do? but what to do? it seems as if were at a plateau...
Because no one has any goals. I tried posting a thread about what our goals should be, what we ACTUALLY want to DO (besides generalizations like "change society"). No one hardly responded, and those that did weren't great responses. But a thread like this, just saying "hey lets do something" get's tons of "hell yeah's" ...but no ideas.

We have to outline was is wrong (specific root causes, not symptomatic stuff like school shootings...because why are they shooting? Stuff like that). Then we have to decide what to do about it, and what we're specifically driving at. And of course we have to get together in serious groups. A lot of people go to protests (not enough, but still a lot), but when asked, often times they aren't really sure what they're protesting, or why. We need informed, driven people out there, gathering and acting.

canadian_boy

04-10-2005, 03:44 AM

well i'm in , i'd be ready to fight for something important

Art Delfo

04-11-2005, 03:11 AM

Because no one has any goals. I tried posting a thread about what our goals should be, what we ACTUALLY want to DO (besides generalizations like "change society"). No one hardly responded, and those that did weren't great responses. But a thread like this, just saying "hey lets do something" get's tons of "hell yeah's" ...but no ideas.

We have to outline was is wrong (specific root causes, not symptomatic stuff like school shootings...because why are they shooting? Stuff like that). Then we have to decide what to do about it, and what we're specifically driving at. And of course we have to get together in serious groups. A lot of people go to protests (not enough, but still a lot), but when asked, often times they aren't really sure what they're protesting, or why. We need informed, driven people out there, gathering and acting.Here are my goals
1.Try to save the enviroment
2.shut down Mega corperations
3.Break the stero-type that we all are durg using bums
Well those are 3:) I can think of

StonerBill

04-11-2005, 02:24 PM

well with goals like that you cant get anywhere. you cant get rid of that stereotype because while we arent all bummed out, most of the druggie population is. megacorporations are inevitable, theonyl way you can get rid of them is restricting how good a person can run their business/corporation. and trhe environment is something that is already being lobbies for immensely

TrippinBTM

04-11-2005, 02:48 PM

Here are my goals
1.Try to save the enviroment
2.shut down Mega corperations
3.Break the stero-type that we all are durg using bums
Well those are 3:) I can think of
What would you have in place of mega corporations. How would you do this?

How would you save the environment?

Art Delfo

04-16-2005, 01:00 AM

I found a site with goals!!!

http://www.hiphappy.com/hippy_take_action/take_action.html

Not all of the goals I agree with(Stop war on weed) but its a start...

Aries

04-21-2005, 04:19 AM

Because no one has any goals. I tried posting a thread about what our goals should be, what we ACTUALLY want to DO (besides generalizations like "change society"). No one hardly responded, and those that did weren't great responses. But a thread like this, just saying "hey lets do something" get's tons of "hell yeah's" ...but no ideas.

We have to outline was is wrong (specific root causes, not symptomatic stuff like school shootings...because why are they shooting? Stuff like that). Then we have to decide what to do about it, and what we're specifically driving at. And of course we have to get together in serious groups. A lot of people go to protests (not enough, but still a lot), but when asked, often times they aren't really sure what they're protesting, or why. We need informed, driven people out there, gathering and acting.

I agree we really do need to get some goals. Thats just the first step.We need to reconize how we are going to impact/change the world.
(if we are going to do so) :p

StonerBill

04-21-2005, 08:31 AM

to spread awareness, essentially.

freedom of oppinion, and the importance of developing your own oppinion and not just taking someone elses.

place of humans in nature, and the importance and magnificence of nature. (without imposing muich on religious beliefs.. because then you wouldnt have any hold at all)

reduction of inequal violence. mutual violence, where both parties desire to fight, should be allowed however, as long as all parties agree to the violence.

reduction of technological use/shortcuts (a very hard one)

to be conscious of the food you eat, and what you are eating.

to use teaching by example instead of teaching by an information.

a lot of this stuff has been touched on more in that website the evil jester put

Newski

05-09-2005, 12:13 AM

WTF are we waiting for? Lets make our mark on society?

(unfortunately most young hippies are far from it. Too many war mongers who think that its about getting high and listening to led zepplin claiming to be hippies.)

Orsino2

05-09-2005, 01:20 AM

Basically, shit or get off the pot.

If someone is going to do something, do it.

Newski

05-09-2005, 01:22 AM

Basically, shit or get off the pot.

If someone is going to do something, do it.

Exactly! Tell everyone you are here! make a fucking mark! I can't do it alone, its a fucking movement.

Folkhippie90

11-24-2006, 06:37 AM

I'm SOOOOOO onboard for this one. We do need something to happen. Even if it's not like the 60's again. We need some kind of a revolution. I'm doing as much as i can living in a VERY small town in michigan. But hopefully I'll be moving to tennessee. there's more going on there. more chances for me (And other people) to get heard.

themnax

11-30-2006, 04:58 PM

tecnology itself isn't the problem. the way tecnology is used and the kinds of tecnologies are used and the resaulting direction in which it evolves because people put trying to impress each other, which gratifies nothing, ahead of the real gratifications of creating and exploring, THAT is the problem.

wind, solar, small scale hydro, small scale flanged wheel on steel rail, stone and steel constructrion, these are all proven and established tecnologies, which only policies, again motivated by a culture of trying to impress, have placed to some degree out of the reach, and perhapse out of even the immagination of a great many people.

my point in mentioning that in this context is that no nation has any really legitimate excuse for massochuring civilian populations halfway arround the world to maintain a totaly gratuitous status quo.

love is better then hate certainly, but the romantic fantacy of (any) idiological panacea isn't going to create a world in which people are enabled to live in a loving manor.

formalize any social structure or system and you've created an opportunity for corruption. but people CAN get togater, without formalized hierarchies, to create and maintain environmentaly harmonious infrastructure when there aren't vested aggressive hierarchies to prevent them from doing so.

so 'the cave' isn't the only alternative. but even if it were, i think a clear consciounse would be worth it.

=^^=
.../\...

englandroxmysox

12-06-2006, 02:32 AM

i say we have a big shindig in the middle of nowhere

The manticore

12-08-2006, 12:53 PM

brrrap brrrap brrrap young hippies unite

Nothingisreal

12-17-2006, 05:18 AM

We should just all get the word out now that we are moving to a hippy movement! One thing we really need though for a hippy movement, a key ingredient, is a draft, reason being is that my generation (the college ages and high school ages) is an apathetic generation that doesn't care what's going on in the world, and they will never do so until it's affecting them! Once they are having their lives interrupted and seeing people they know coming back in body bags then they will notice and help get onto our already planned movement!!

themnax

12-17-2006, 09:17 AM

rainbowedskylover

12-17-2006, 05:20 PM

this is a hard one. I don´t think a draft or anything like it is the way to put on a counterculture. i think that the whole draft thing was important for the spectacular growth of the hippymovement as well as it was important for the fall of the hippymovement. when people only do something to safe their own lives and they don´t mean it, it probably won´t be lasting very long. so real change will not occure.
I guess our welfare is part of our evolution. we are at a breaking-point. if we can combine our welfare with living in harmony with our surroundings, the world will be more beautiful than ever before. to reach that we not only have to evolve on an intellectual level, but on an emotional and on social level as well. otherwise solutions won't work. we can see this today already. solutions are all around us, look on the net and you'll find them soon enough. unfortunatly, most of us don't believe in them or have other things on their mind and change progresses slowly.

andallthatstocome

12-19-2006, 12:04 AM

any plans for jumpstarting hippyism? find and befriend all your local hippies? go with them down to the most conservative parts of town and play a game of hackey sack in the driveways? baby steps, people, baby steps..... FREE CONCERTS OF RANDOM TRIPPED-OUT LOCAL ROCK GROUPS IN THE PARK!!!! that is an example of focused hippy beauty, just thousands of hippies laying on the grass, some blowing bubbles, some dancing, all of them chilling to the music...

Nothingisreal

12-22-2006, 01:16 AM

I don't think a draft is the way to do it either but it's gonna happen eventually. I would rather it not since I don't want my husband going over there, but then again he'll be the first to fight against going.

I do notice and wonder if anyone else has but clothing stores are trying to bring back the "look". (I've never been so happy and amazed at the same time) Why are they bringing it back? It's a good thing that the clothing industry is trying to do something. I just don't like how Gap is marketing peace for the holiday season though. Especially adding it with the commercials on tv, rap/hip hop like music I don't see goes well together with peace.

So if you've noticed things in today's culture trying to bring it back let me know!

thehippie_08

01-20-2007, 03:46 AM

right on with the revolution, in fact i am holding a protest in my small town the day of the march on washington...a protest for peace.
get ready brothers and sisters, revolution is coming your way.

NecroDynamic

02-05-2007, 08:44 AM

Nude protest, be there or be square.

sitareric

02-05-2007, 11:41 PM

I think that all of us young hippies need to come forth and start another big hippie movement like back in the 60s!!!!!!
Our world needs it! Especially at this time in our world!yeah man give peace a chance george bush.. I think the control needs to go back to the public

cheech & chong

02-25-2007, 06:03 AM

I'm all for that man, but like other people said, whos going to listen? We are todays youth and we cant do anything about the Earth because no one is going to listen. They will say ''silly little kids, aint that cute, they are trying to imitate the 60s. Run along and go save a tree''. And plus the government is got all this shit in everyone elses head that they are saving the world and everythings alright as long as they're around, so everyones listening to them instead of us because they are ''civilized adults''. So the governments going to win over us, its just not possible for us to win, I mean its sad I know, but even if the we did get people listening to us the government would get us, just like they do when people see UfOs. We are going to have to get violent if we want to be heard and when I say we I mean all of the Youth in the country because it has to be that big to do it. So what am I saying we do? I say if we can get everyone out there to do this, then we have a chance, but if not, all we CAN do is drop out of society and not abide by these fucking rules the government has put out there for us. Smoke pot, eat shrooms, dont pay your taxes, piss off the government in EVERY SINGLE WAY YOU CAN, and maybe, just maybe we will be heard. Thats all I have to say man, I hope you guys hear what I'm sayin. Peace, Love, and Happiness

HippyHippyShake

03-23-2007, 10:02 PM

I think that all of us young hippies need to come forth and start another big hippie movement like back in the 60s!!!!!!
Our world needs it! Especially at this time in our world!
I agree strongly about this. PEACE AND LOVE end all hated. It is childish and unnessicary.

chefsbabylover

03-29-2007, 05:55 PM

I agree with somehow planning a way we can show the world and government and all the fucked up corporate monkeys who waste their lives away driving in a metal coffin from one box prison to the next that WE WILL NOT JUST LAY BACK AND TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE. I'm so sick and tired of the arrogance, hypocracy, apathy and ignorance that is in the world...why can't we all just support and love one another?

themnax

03-30-2007, 03:59 PM

I'm all for that man, but like other people said, whos going to listen? ... ... They will say ''silly little kids, aint that cute, they are trying to imitate the 60s. Run along and go save a tree''.

i think what's being missed here is that this IS what (in th 60s and 70s) we did. we were never acknowledged as having been listened to. and yet, it DID work, continued to work, even became semi-established as the 70s rolled on.

only when raygun conspired with khomani was the previous establishment able to reasert itself and screw it all up.

fall down seven times, get up eight times.

so, with raygun and after we went back to sleep for a while. so big deal. so we can wake back up too. yes we've got tyranny now because we let it happen. we let ourselves and with each succeeding generation, get conned into putting trying to impress each other ahead of the avoidance of screwing everything up for each other.

it's all a matter of which is more important to enough of us. young and old. it WAS the young who led then. partialy thanks to having a unique demographic on our side.

there is nothing that cannot happen again or happen for the first time either.

it simply takes sending an unambiguous message by honest and unmuddled example. and of course for some, there will always be some who are called upon to make the ultimate sacrafice in the proccess of doing so.

there is risk too. there is always risk. and sometimes bigger risk in not taking it.

i'm not trying to tell anyone not to try anything.
the only thing i'm personaly advocating is to withhold support for what obviously causes harm. but others, young and old, are more then welcome to try whatever they think works.

i make no claim to be omniscient as to what does and does not.

=^^=
.../\...

Archemetis

04-03-2007, 02:46 AM

I think that all of us young hippies need to come forth and start another big hippie movement like back in the 60s!!!!!!
Our world needs it! Especially at this time in our world!theres plenty going on right now...all kinds of grass roots movements transforming tight "tribes" of people. but thats just it, we are scattered these days and can really only work with eachother in a more intimate way. we dont need another big movement like the 60's saw, we need more people to take an intrest locally and take care of eachother on a man to man level.

we're at a point now where the protest dosent mean shit, no matter how many people are shouting in unison. our power is not in changing or reforming anything, our power is in creating an alternative for ouselfs....you cant fight babylon, but you can remove yourself from it. and you can create space where others can come to do the same.

Hobes

04-03-2007, 06:40 AM

it is not going to happen.but, as youth, we do have a vary BIG say in changing the times. if we try to restart the 60s however there will only be disappointment. what was cool about the 60s was the youth rebelled and wanted peace. those are the only things we need to keep in the future

Hobes

04-03-2007, 06:48 AM

raygun
my god the gov has raguns. we are DOOMED.
sory but at least spellcheck a name.

Reagan

lulla

04-04-2007, 10:46 AM

So we should take an action? We could start with ourselves, for example, let's organize our own young hippie camp (somewhere that'd be get-at-able for people from all over the world, like our center-of-the-world), it would be a good start for making changes, at first, we could talk there about what excatly we want to do and how we can achieve that. Talking circles about these problems at evenings, choosing the leader & other hippie-camp-stuffs. Well?

Is this idea really that bad?

And maybe someone has any suggestions about this?

The manticore

04-04-2007, 04:30 PM

cool idea

eman resu

04-04-2007, 07:56 PM

to bad your never actualy going to do it.

The_Walrus

04-10-2007, 09:19 AM

Coooool. A kind of second '60s would be beyond awesome since we can't go back.

Someone develop time travel... QUICKLY.

WWKCD729

04-16-2007, 09:49 PM

Well Look At The Resources Of This Forum, If We All Can Gather In One Place At One Time, And Then Have The Ability To Spread The Word Around, Im Sure We Could Gather Followers, Look At The Truth Commercials...if We Could Earn Money And Do Things Like That, Then The Word Definetley Gets Out, Im Down For Trying To Bring Us Back Together, Society Today Is Bullshit, And Our Generation Was Meant For Something Big And To Do Something Big, I Think Its Time We Start.....

Miss_Beatle

04-17-2007, 01:09 AM

Yes, this is all a great idea, but...

I mean it's easy enough to sit here on the computer and say "yeah! lets do it!" But its whether or not we actually do do it that matters.

And since where all in different places around the world, what we need to do is start making a difference individually. Some friends and I have already taken vows about certain things, which will hold up until were legal (which luckily is soon), and then that's when the action will really begin.

So anyways, actions speak louder than words. If you guys are really serious about all this, then go out and show it, make a difference in your neck of the woods, for now at least, until we can come up with a bigger plan :)

Also, I guess i might add, my friend and I are saving up to buy a bus which we'll buy when were legal, and then we'll go around the world promoting peace and and other important stuff. If you guys are interested, you could always come with us, the more the merrier! I mean it's a start...

WWKCD729

04-19-2007, 07:43 PM

i say we build a camp somewhere in the middle of the u.s., in the mountains or something...somewhere central, and then we can all gather, its like they used to in cali. in the mountains and shit, they would throw bonfires and all night smoking parties...from what my mom told me, shes grew up a flower/indigo child...so she tells me a lot about the 70's and shit....i saw we do it...WHOS WITH ME!!!!lol

mandell

04-20-2007, 04:33 PM

The hippies were defined by what straight society was not back in the 60's.
Just like we were the hippies of our generation.
You young folks are the hippies of this generation.

Only by stepping outside of society are people able to look at it objectively, to be able to see what's wrong with it and how people can change it.

So, basically, the counter-culture took what worked for them from society and changed, modified what they felt needed changing, as opposed to simply following the dictates of straight society, whatever that means to you today.

Bob Dylan's "The Times They Are A-Changing" is very much alive, it's actually an ongoing process.

Goodluck and best wishes to the hippies of this generation.

WWKCD729

04-20-2007, 05:08 PM

I keep saying that we need to do something, I think us young hippies should get more advice from our elder hippies like mandell did, take what we can use, help chagne the world, I heard on the radio, that people are seeing the changes of this world, and that we need to do something, sounds retarded, but it was what i was looking for. To hear that statement, kind of wanted mt to get us all together, and get a plan together, and put this world back together

lifelovefun

05-20-2007, 06:28 PM

I think that all of us young hippies need to come forth and start another big hippie movement like back in the 60s!!!!!!
Our world needs it! Especially at this time in our world!Your totally right :) We need to be making love and not war and it's about time that we give up on these governments that lie to us everyday.

I'd definatley join the new hippie movement when it comes back :) Even if we can't find any LSD lol

HoodHop

05-25-2007, 09:41 AM

i wanna

evsride

05-25-2007, 04:59 PM

We need a new age Dennis Leary to put some blotters in the water supply...Im sure it would be ten times better than that shit fluoride industrial waste biproduct they are putting in it now.

Viva la revolucion....there are so many like us yet we feel so alone, herein lies one of the ultimate human conundrums, suffering in which most feel alone in, yet we are actually feeling it as one.
It is time for change, I am ready to work for it and do on a daily basis in as many small ways as I can. We need to organize and take to the streets, it will take a critical mass before we can achieve results but I refuse to give in to the train of thought that our parent's generation was somehow better or more inspired, or luckier than us. If anything we have even more conducive conditions for us today than they had back then. Lets be the change and bring the elites to their knees with universal love and empowerment of the meek, as well as with justice and truth.

Lots o love from the heartland

Peace

Alaskan

06-10-2007, 04:59 AM

Sorry evsride, I believe the person you are refering to was Dr. Timothy Leary, the LSD guru. The one that coined the phrase " Tune in, turn on and drop out ".
For those of you who want to start your own civalization, here is some good reading.

http://www.lostbooks.org/reviews/2002-06-28-2.html

Just check out the intro on this web page. I have the whole series....Dennis

lifelovefun

06-10-2007, 07:55 AM

Restarting the hippie movement is an AWESOME idea :) Starting in the privacy of nature might be the best way since the goddam cops have been given so much power now.

themnax

06-11-2007, 12:13 AM

my god the gov has raguns. we are DOOMED.
sory but at least spellcheck a name.

Reagan

the satyrical spelling is both appropriate and deserved, and i will continue to deliberately spell it precisely the way he earned it.

=^^=
.../\...

Steve Green

06-11-2007, 05:10 PM

Strain and Thunder! What is the wrong message here? That young people today are powerless or that we need to uproot all of society? Dunno do I I'm just an individual that agreess with kilted, i've read far too many of these kinda posts and if you want one of these revolutions then please, go have one.

VegOut024

06-22-2007, 06:40 AM

uhhh... am I the only one who see's the substance in Jetblack's idea?? Eh? No but really, I'm way to much of a pessimist to see any hope for our generation. It's sad, but I just don't see it as being possible to recreate anything that went on in the 60's. Sure, we can protest and try change stuff, but there's not enough of people that actually believe in it. Most of the kids I know just want to get strung out on coke and have sex. BLECH!
I agree I wish nothing more then to get out of my generation. I'm not doing anything like lighting myself up, but this generation is going nowhere

Tommy1The1Cat

07-08-2007, 11:01 PM

we need to create another huuuuuuuge music festival with a ton of bands more than coachela and burning man combined!! but where but where!!!???!?!?

themnax

07-11-2007, 02:17 PM

we need to create another huuuuuuuge music festival with a ton of bands more than coachela and burning man combined!! but where but where!!!???!?!?

why?

i mean it might be fun, but why would we NEED that, or expect it to do any more good, then simply not screwing everything up, for each other?

of course i haven't been young for a long time and i'm not suggesting anyone shouldn't have fun. having fun DID help in the 60s. it helped by reminding people that what they were familiar with was not the limit of what was possible.

but i really think that is the important thing, not limiting the positive posibilities in our minds and thus not limiting ourselves to familiar negative ones.

something like that could be part of the proccess if it were free. but i think we also need to start thinking in terms, even if we continue to use money as a way OF doing things, that other positive, peaceful and nonthreatining reasons FOR doing them, can and do exist.

(like creating and exploring themselves, totally bypassing the whole bean counting, trying to impress anyone proccess, entirely)

=^^=
.../\...

aqua_lung

07-26-2007, 06:18 PM

As long as there are hippies - the world will be a better place. We'll just have to be patient, people will learn to love eventually!

Wormed

07-30-2007, 04:54 AM

i have yet to meet a hippie who isn't a stoner.

WWKCD729

07-30-2007, 07:36 PM

now that i look around, there are a lot more people my age, having the morals of hippies, a hippie really isn't a stereotype or a clicque..it's a point of view, a belief. You can't just say, hmmm...i feel like being a hippie..no..that's not how it works, but as of now, I don't see hippies because of the civilization we have come to assimilate to, but...there are more and more people, developing the morals of "hippyism", which is always good to see, our day is coming, and I can't wait until that day, where "hippyism" actually does shine, only then will we be "hippies"..until that day, for all us young hippies, we aren't hippies, we just have the morals and beliefs of a hippie...