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please_fly_free
12-18-2006, 04:35 AM
I was raised agnostic and am therefore not a very religous person. I never saw that South Park episode but I did try looking scientology up a few weeks ago...But really what is Scientology (anyone clarify)?

dd3stp233
12-18-2006, 09:42 AM
There is a thread in the cults section -
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197141

Duck
12-18-2006, 09:47 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology

basically a cult based on a science fiction writer's crazy ideas, that tries to pass itself off as a legitimate religion

themnax
12-18-2006, 01:20 PM
well, if you've ever read strainger in a strainge land, the 'reverend' foster is a kind of cross between laurance ronald hubbard (hienline's college room mate and 'mr scientology' himself) and your typical evangellical nutcase. fosteriteism being somewhat mostly a bit of an honest satire of both. for anyone who has been handed a copy of "pschydynamics" or whatever the're using for an introductory text these days, and started wading through it and asking themselves, "what the hell is this?", i would highly recomend reading hienlines strainger in a strainge land. i'm not claiming this as a litteral explanation in any sort of exact sense, but it will throw perhapse a bit of light of perspective on where 'scientology' 'fits in' to this (or some?) universe.

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dd3stp233
12-19-2006, 04:03 AM
That's an interesting connection there, themnax, because Robert Heinlein and L.Ron Hubbard knew each other and were friends.

revolution_time
12-19-2006, 05:35 AM
the southpark episode was right, it wasn't lying unfortunatley. lol. it's basically the rich man's religion. you pay money for church "secrets"

please_fly_free
12-19-2006, 05:52 AM
ok y'all -- when i researched this a couple of months ago I went to the Wikipedia article but it was really too much info for me to grasp just the general concepts...So I asked y'all and I get a link to that same article -- Can someone please just briefly explain this to me without Wikipedia links? BtW: I'm not trying to convert, I'm merely just curious...

Duck
12-19-2006, 06:10 AM
ok y'all -- when i researched this a couple of months ago I went to the Wikipedia article but it was really too much info for me to grasp just the general concepts...So I asked y'all and I get a link to that same article -- Can someone please just briefly explain this to me without Wikipedia links? BtW: I'm not trying to convert, I'm merely just curious...that's like asking someone to explain christianity or hinduism or buddhism briefly
it ain't gonna work
you can get some idea of it that way, but you can't possibly get a fair idea of it that way
get your lazy ass to read the wikipedia article (and maybe some links from it) if you are relaly interested :)

Gravity
12-19-2006, 06:32 PM
Scientology basically is a burocratic cult with the most retarded belief system in modern history.

guitarpeace
12-19-2006, 06:58 PM
agreed.

mbworkrelated
12-19-2006, 08:50 PM
Such negativity. :)

It aint any weirder than all the other religeons of this planet. It just gets a bad press. It aint considered a 'legitimate religeon' because all the others have been absorbed into the mainstream. [as sad as that is] . If it makes these followers happy , then fair play to them.

What made me smile was the news trying to make Tom Cruis's marriage ceremony seem 'odd' by saying what the gifts were. I think a cat a comb and a pan. I thought that idea was sweet. etc'.
http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/cruise_news.htm

Bongish
12-20-2006, 12:39 AM
But really what is Scientology (anyone clarify)? some extremely dumb shit.

mbworkrelated
12-21-2006, 02:58 PM
some extremely dumb shit.
Just like every other religeon then ?.

please_fly_free
12-21-2006, 04:17 PM
hey i wasn't being lazy, i tried to read the article and i didn't understand it so excuse the fuck out of me for not being an Einstein




that's like asking someone to explain christianity or hinduism or buddhism briefly
it ain't gonna work
you can get some idea of it that way, but you can't possibly get a fair idea of it that way
get your lazy ass to read the wikipedia article (and maybe some links from it) if you are relaly interested :)

superusername
12-21-2006, 04:27 PM
Watch Southpark it portrays a more beutiful vew of the cult.

please_fly_free
12-21-2006, 04:35 PM
looks like i'll have to do that -- its okay, i'll download it...thanks!




Watch Southpark it portrays a more beutiful vew of the cult.

GHOSTCRAB
12-21-2006, 04:48 PM
Scientology recruits movie stars.

Bongish
12-22-2006, 08:47 PM
Just like every other religeon then ?.
bingo. Just like every other religeon [sic]

Duck
12-23-2006, 04:34 AM
hey i wasn't being lazy, i tried to read the article and i didn't understand it so excuse the fuck out of me for not being an Einsteinthen learn to be one =P

you needa chill a bit, such anger is not good for you :)

please_fly_free
12-23-2006, 07:39 AM
sorry -- i'm not trying to be a super-bitch but i can be really defensive on these boards because i'm kinda shy and it takes a lot for me to even post on here, so when i feel like i'm being attacked i get angry and come in with punches. Sorry...I really did try to read that article though, lol...

ArnieLerma
12-01-2008, 11:04 PM
Scientology is a political movement that uses the same promises to entice and recruit that worked in Germany before WWII, (http://www.lermanet.com/scientology-and-occult/) based upon covert hypnosis (http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/confusion-technique2.htm), repetition, fallacious argument, it amounts to a fraud (http://www.lermanet.com/reference/graphicindex.htm) that is cloaked as a cult which is then disguised as a religion. (http://www.lermanet.com/LRonHubbard2.htm)

R's Sock
12-02-2008, 01:10 AM
Way to go, you must be a well practiced necromancer!

Hoatzin
01-13-2009, 09:09 PM
the southpark episode was right, it wasn't lying unfortunatley. lol. it's basically the rich man's religion. you pay money for church "secrets"



Presumably that will mean that it will diminish in popularity once membership is no longer required to obtain those secrets. Kind of like the KKK. Not that it won't be replaced with something equally batshit which hasn't had the fun ruined out of it yet.

Hoatzin
01-13-2009, 09:11 PM
looks like i'll have to do that -- its okay, i'll download it...thanks!


For what it's worth, all South Park episodes are available legally to stream from southparkstudios.com (or something like that, anyway).

Okiefreak
02-04-2009, 08:15 PM
For what it's worth, all South Park episodes are available legally to stream from southparkstudios.com (or something like that, anyway).One ot the things the South Park episodes bring out is scientology's well-deserved reputation for relentless, ruthless persecution of anybody who crosses it. So watch out!

plebe
02-18-2009, 09:05 PM
So many haters. Why do we have to hate that which we don't understand? Basically, the premise behind Scientology is that during moments of pain (whether physical or emotional), the information that our senses are taking in get stored in our subconscious mind rather than our conscious mind like under normal circumstances. The data collected during these moments of pain get stored in chains depending on the type of pain. So the first time you experience sadness, for example, you start a chain of sadness memories and every time you experience sadness, those memories in your subconscious get stored on the same chain.
As you look back along your life's timeline in your memory, the areas where memories were stored in your subconscious become like missing ties on the railroad track of your memory. The more you take out, the harder it is to go back. The farther back you look, the more intermediate memories are missing. Another part of Scientology is teaching you how to confront things with your full awareness and without emotion. When they bring the whole thing together, they call it "auditing". They use a feedback meter and have you confront your chains of missing memories one at a time by asking you questions. As you confront the memories at the beginning of the chain (or as far back along it as you can go), you build up an emotional charge. Once you get to the root of the problem, you release the charge and bring the memories associated with that chain back into conscious memory. Due to our nature of reincarnation, you can go back into past lives and clear charges built up across lifetimes. Eventually, you are able to start working on other planes of existence as you remember how to navigate without your material body.
In a lot of ways, it reminds me of many different methods that are used to heal emotional and physical traumas from our past to allow us to live more fully in the now. Yes, it is more controversial than most, but it does have some validity.
I went to the church of Scientology for a few months back in the early to mid-70s. I was amazed at the volume of writing L. Ron Hubbard did. They were very pushy in those days to get people moving through their organization, doing auditing sessions, and generating money. I didn't last very long as I didn't really have any money and wasn't about to get any anytime soon (at least not to give to them). A few years later, I ran into a couple of guys that had split from the church and were doing the auditing on their own. I did a couple of sessions with them and have to say I cleared a very big charge that I had built up over the way my parents had treated me when I was a child. I was asked, "What was it that your parents did wrong?" I answered that question several times with things like "they used to hit me", "they used to make fun of me", "they used to send me to bed without any dinner", etc. Finally I answered it, "Nothing." It was as if a huge weight was lifted off of me and I instantly broke into prolonged joyous laughter as I realized they really hadn't done anything wrong.
Scientology is another way along the path to enlightenment.

orison319
02-18-2009, 09:12 PM
its a trap.....

HawaiianEye
02-18-2009, 10:47 PM
I don't know anything about scientology other than the fact that one of the worst actors ever to make a motion picture is a member,Tom Cruise.

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03-26-2009, 05:59 AM
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