K Hole?

[Kitaro]

Not a K user at all, but I'd like to know what exactly is the K Hole... is it like the LD50 dose? Is it bad? Is it a very intense trip but not a bad one, though? ~
Thanks :)

[Kitaro]

come oooooooon, maaaan... at least say that you don't know..:S

PS: Post number 100!! hahaha

[whiterabbit]

i have absolutely no clue but it's probably an overdose like you said the LD50 thing.... but i duno i've never tried it. but i wouldn't want to risk it finding out if it's like the LD50 or not so don't try that much and just do enough to get high.

[doubledtrapezoid]

no it is not an overdose at all. it is when the intesity level of the drugs effects breaks into a new realm... im assuming youre not experienced with disassociatives but if you are its pretty easy to imagine. i guess it begins when you start getting disoriented and confused (much more so then you already are)... you cant feel yourself sitting up / down or moving your arms or walking... it gets difficult and unless youre forced to be mobile, youll lay down. you loose track of where / when you are, will experience ego loss, and be lost in the world of your mind. i never went in deep, but i have friends that did a lot of k. my one friend that has done it often even had a 'religious awakening' after 10 bags worth, claimed he saw and spoke with jesus, he wont tell us what they talked about but he now believes in god when he never did before.

[doubledtrapezoid]

oh, kitaro i saw your post on lsd, you really cant die from taking a gram. dont believe everything on erowid.. they are often way off with dosages.

[crackforkids]

YIOU SHOULD NEVER DO A GRAM! JESUS CHRIST!
if i got a vial full and pure from a vet and cooked it up, how many mg's would i have? i did it before and it lasted me a long k-d out week ending in a K hole.

MY K HOLE was complete and instant ego loss. did not know where,what,when,how,who,why....its being absolutely nothing. i was blind the entire time and kept running sand through my fingers, believing i was sinking into the sands of time where i would get lost and never find out anything and be stuck in the black world forever. i met someone, i couldnt see them but they spoke to me, a jesus like persona i now believe to be some subconciouss part of me, calmming me down. i think i forgot what he told it, but it helped at the time.





1 more thing. i'm sick of "ravers" (sorry, it's not all you guys) that come running up to me like "OMG! I AM IN THE BIGGEST K-HOLE!" i'm thinkin.... "BITCH, IF YOU WERE REALLY IN A K-HOLE HOW THE FUCK YOU WALK OVER HERE AND TALK TO ME? HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU EVEN SEE ME?" say your fucked up, thats all, k-hole is a big deal and the term shouldnt be thrown around so loosely.

[Kitaro]

1 more thing. i'm sick of "ravers" (sorry, it's not all you guys) that come running up to me like "OMG! I AM IN THE BIGGEST K-HOLE!" i'm thinkin.... "BITCH, IF YOU WERE REALLY IN A K-HOLE HOW THE FUCK YOU WALK OVER HERE AND TALK TO ME? HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU EVEN SEE ME?" say your fucked up, thats all, k-hole is a big deal and the term shouldnt be thrown around so loosely.
Yah, ya right! lool But I believe doubletrapezoid was talking about lsd, when talking about a gram.

BTW, if you think I'm a raver, try again... I have never done not even one synthetic drug. And, for a question of principles, I will never do it.

I just asked you about the K hole, because, as you know, Ketamine is use as an anaesthetic. But the K hole dose is LESS than the anaesthetic! I found that interesting...and confusing lol :confused:

Peace.

[Lodui]

I'm Kinda interested in K. At least you dont have to worry about ODing... it takes a lot. Plus cat tranq sounds fun.

[TheOjaiSon]

my advise to every one is to stay away from chemical drugs alltogether. if it didnt come from the earth, its dangerous to your body and should not be used. lsd is the only exception but ill never do it again due to a bad trip.......but you cant get pure lsd any more any due to the fluff familys state of being in jail . some one could sell you a tab with rat poisin on it, ive seen it happen. keep it organic for the good of the earth. weed, mushies, opium, peyote......... thats all youd ever need.

[Kitaro]

my advise to every one is to stay away from chemical drugs alltogether. if it didnt come from the earth, its dangerous to your body and should not be used. lsd is the only exception but ill never do it again due to a bad trip.......but you cant get pure lsd any more any due to the fluff familys state of being in jail . some one could sell you a tab with rat poisin on it, ive seen it happen. keep it organic for the good of the earth. weed, mushies, opium, peyote......... thats all youd ever need.
Ooooh yeah, I do think the same!
*clap clap clap*

[backtothelab]

I've never take K, but I have taken pcp, where I got the "hole" visuals. In every sense of the word, it was literally a hole I could'nt see out of. Like your field of vision when looking through a paper tube. idk, it's really hard to explain. I was still intact though.

[doubledtrapezoid]

thanks for that link liquid sun... thats a good resource

[crackforkids]

a gram of lsd cant kill you?
















this confuses me

[Aberfoyle]

Yeah isn't LSD extremely non-toxic?

Also, I always thought a K-Hole was like a major ketamine addiction that results in huge K binges?

[Nosferatu]

The K Hole is when you take ketamine and to put it in simple terms, are drawn into the hole of your subconcious opened for you by the ketamine. It's when you find yourself in a completely changed reality and have such great understanding of this new reality you've been drawn into. And when you're in the K Hole, as someone said earlier, you will NOT be walking around bragging about it. You will most likely be laying on the floor completely unaware of any and everything that's happening in reality. The K Hole is an extremely insightful experience if you can retain enough of what happened. Most people who snort K won't even get to this point unless you're doing really really high dosages of it, or combining it with something like LSD. The best K hole experiences I've ever heard people tell were intramuscular injections of K. This guy could have be trampled over and never known it. Anyway, I'm rambling now. The K Hole is a really intense experience though, and gives you a great sense of understanding, and an entire new visual universe.

[RoBoWaLkEr]

Short of breaking into a veterinary clinic, there's no way to get K around where i am...it sucks.

[crackforkids]

The K Hole is when you take ketamine and to put it in simple terms, are drawn into the hole of your subconcious opened for you by the ketamine. It's when you find yourself in a completely changed reality and have such great understanding of this new reality you've been drawn into. And when you're in the K Hole, as someone said earlier, you will NOT be walking around bragging about it. You will most likely be laying on the floor completely unaware of any and everything that's happening in reality. The K Hole is an extremely insightful experience if you can retain enough of what happened. Most people who snort K won't even get to this point unless you're doing really really high dosages of it, or combining it with something like LSD. The best K hole experiences I've ever heard people tell were intramuscular injections of K. This guy could have be trampled over and never known it. Anyway, I'm rambling now. The K Hole is a really intense experience though, and gives you a great sense of understanding, and an entire new visual universe.
thank you. and i never pointed any fingers when i said "ravers". i jus had that experience a couple times at raves.

[The beholder]

my advise to every one is to stay away from chemical drugs alltogether. if it didnt come from the earth, its dangerous to your body and should not be used. lsd is the only exception but ill never do it again due to a bad trip.......but you cant get pure lsd any more any due to the fluff familys state of being in jail . some one could sell you a tab with rat poisin on it, ive seen it happen. keep it organic for the good of the earth. weed, mushies, opium, peyote......... thats all youd ever need.

Gotta agree there, nature provides everything we need ever... sorry its such an old post reply.

Beholder

[2cesarewild]

A gram of LSD can't kill you? I would um, kind of believe that, even though LSD isn't toxic. A street blotter from the late 90s was like 80-120 micrograms of lsd. a microgram is .000001 grams, so a hit off the street is .00008 g. So like 12000 hits off the street or something? More like 2000 psychedelic doses (500 microgram or >) PS I hope I didn't make any math errors, I'm stoned as hell...

[Archemetis]

your in a k hole when your watching yourself from outside your body ;) or at least thats always been my expireince with it.

[enquirewithin]

It would be hard to OD sniffing ketamine-- your nose wouldn't let you!

If you sniff it, 150-200 mg will get you into a K-hole. Just stay inside and lock the doors. You will be incapacitated for about 30 minutes. Sniff 250 mg + and you will be in a K-hole for longer. More than about 300 mg you will likely become unconscious-- its an anaesthetic after all.

The trip has some aspects similar to LSD but is very different. Some people think the experience K induces is very profound-- its the weirdest subtsance I have tried. You can total out of body experiences.

[Cyryl MIRAUDS]

K-hole lasts only a few seconds I think, but notion of time is very blurred in it. This very moment I feel like I am THE consciousness of the Universe... a bit metaphysical but terribly strange and peaceful. A wonderful trip and much less dangerous than alcohol... a pity it is so much banned now... I wish I could live back in the nineties... it was legal and... we didn't know it was existing. Too bad ;0(

[Phen-research-vas]

a gram of LSD will fucking kill you thats like 5,000 strong doses.

Ketamine K hole is a fucking intense experience. Be safe with ketamine the shit is addictive, I had some really bad binges on it and went so deep into the K hole that I fucked my brain up from total ego loss and all kinds of repressed memories rushing at me, it made me an emotional wreck. I was doing over a gram a day though which is very heavy. When I ran out I felt like total shit and fiending for it horribly bad, I got depressed as hell and didn't even feel like living anymore, I figured if I couldn't live in the ketamine world there was no point to life at all. I didn't do anything stupid though, obviously, I just slept all day and isolated myself off from the world.

S Isomer ketamine is very hard to k hole on but will make you go crazy if you do enough, I binged on that and felt like I was fucking schizo. It is such a fun drug and feels so awesome and is so amazing but one line just is not enough. People call the shit regretamine for a reason. If you get it, don't let yourself have more than a gram at a time it is way too easy to binge on this shit. I have a love hate relationship with it.

[Cyryl MIRAUDS]

I read in the net that K was not an addictive product, i experienced it less than 10 times, but thanks a lot for this interessting feed-back. I then suppose that everybody reacts a different way...

[rollontheground]

i think a vial would be 1 gram..just read the label its either 10mg/ml in a hundred ml vial or it 100mg/ml in a 10ml vial i think its the latter..........ive never ever ever done k though and i want to very badly...k hole is a term used to describe the most intense state of perception one can feel before blacking out...its the most fucked up you can be while still being conscience..i know you see tunnel visson and thats about it as ive never done it...

[Shocbomb]

K is not physically addicting it can be psychologically addicting though like all dissociative drugs.As for doing K It has never ever been my cup of tea and is the drug to be honest I hate the most. I never ever enjoyed the high at all and hate to even think about being in a k hole. Its one drug I really never had any fun on and for some stupid reason did did it alot as a kid and in my early 20's.The last K hole I was in was just horrible like a ass hole I have no idea why but a buddy of mine talked me into shooting some up on the way back from picking up are Herion in New York city, We were at a rest stop and he bought a vile of K also in the city. So I shot some up even though I knew I should not and as soon as the plunger of that needle went down my ass was in a instant K hole the worst one I ever had,and I have been in many but this one was buy far th worst I could not walk and jast just stuck, I could hardly talk etc, and it lasted for while. And from that point on I have never fucked with it again. I think I was 24 or 5, so its been a good 5 years sence I fucked with it, you could not pay me now to even do sniff a little bump of it. When it comes to dissociative drugs I am pretty much split down the middle. I love Angel Dust "PCP" Its one of my favorite drugs that I have had some great times. I like N2O alot also, But when it comes to K and DXM I just can't stand the shit the high just does not agree with me at all.

[Cyryl MIRAUDS]

I understand, but what is bad for the ones is good for the others and the other way round ;)