Any other CTs worry about the advancement of Industrial/Technological system?

[Shane99X]

From paranoid forum:

Industrial/Tech system, Is anybody else paranoid in general re: current future world? (http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=204802)


Is it just me?
I'm using the net so i dont think it's that i'm a techniphobe.

I'm not afraid of terrorism, world war, nukes, fascism.

What i'm afraid of is:

GPS units in ALL new cell phones and automobiles
closed circuit security systems in public schools
rfid chips
national id cards
nano technology
genetic engineering
prescription mood stabilizers
ai
biometeric scanners
artificial limbs and organs
vat grown limbs and organs
anything remotely considered "post-human"
satellites(the ones powerful enough to see a hair on your zit)
consumer cards(save 3 cents on purchases by allowing them to track EVERYTHING YOU BUY!)
micro recording devices (audio and video)
industrial robotic arms replacing manufacturing jobs.
autovoices replacing customer service jobs

The future i see: picture the matrix minus conscious human thought.

scary shit...

I would pray for Peak[oil, metal, coal] if only a) i was the praying type and b) Peak didn't mean death for billions.

Say what you will about Kaczynski, the man raised a couple of good points...

and poilitcal regimes may rise and fall but the Industrial/Tech system has never even faltered, not once, it just keeps advancing.

How long until ritalin isn't enough to keep children as predictable and docile as the system needs them to be.

Ritalin 9.0, just attach to your child's brain port and watch them loose all interest in creative rebellion, coming to a store near you..

[Shane99X]

I even thought of a ditty while i was smoking a bowl the otherday:


"The system keeps marching on
regardless of right or wrong

A man can try to fight it
but they'll label him insane
strap him to a table
put a chip inside his brain

Oh yes, the system keeps marching on..."


Yeah, i know it sucks, i'm still working on the lyrics.

[Shane99X]

I don't know if this is the right forum to post this thread or not...


I mean, it isn't about the illumunati, 9/11, or the Rothschilds after all. http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/icons/newicons/icon16.gif

[Pressed_Rat]

What's with the "CT" marginalization? I sure hope you weren't referring to me. You don't think this ties in with the Elite and everything else that is talked about in here? Don't tell me you think it's part of a seperate agenda.

Obviously the direction technology is headed is one where it will be used to fully control the population. A scientific dictatorship is the goal of the Elite. The Matrix is the perfect example of the world we are living in.

Peak oil.... that's a myth.

[Shane99X]

What's with the "CT" marginalization? I sure hope you weren't referring to me. You don't think this ties in with the Elite and everything else that is talked about in here? Don't tell me you think it's part of a seperate agenda.

Obviously the direction technology is headed is one where it will be used to fully control the population. A scientific dictatorship is the goal of the Elite. The Matrix is the perfect example of the world we are living in.

Peak oil.... that's a myth.

don't be so sensitive, you know i'm all about 9/11 truth guy, i'm just busting balls (notice the the winking smiling?).

It is possible the there is a controlled direction the system is headed to, but i don't know...

I think the problems are more likely inherent in industry and technology, regardless of political and social puppet masters.

Remember: frankenstein was the creator who was killed by his creation.

Just because the advancement currently works in favor of the elite (in fact fosters elitism itself to an unprecedented degree) doesn't mean that they have any real control over it or will be able to predict it's final outcome.

I think maybe they are just more advantged by it (being opportunists as well as manipulators), no more than that.

I think of the I/T system as more of a virus and/or pathology than a tool.

[Shane99X]

Peak oil.... that's a myth.
Peak resources are a scientific reality.
We are bound to hit peak some day, it is not improbable that the elitists are making it seem more of an imminent threat than it actually is but there is also the possibility that we are indeed arriving at peak in the near future (same goes for climate change).

The debate is over the timing more than anything else.

[Pressed_Rat]

don't be so sensitive, you know i'm all about 9/11 truth guy, i'm just busting balls (notice the the winking smiling?).

It is possible the there is a a controlled direction the system is headed to, but i don't know...

I think the problems are more likely inherent in industry and technology, regardless of political and social puppet masters.

Remember: frankenstein was the creator who was killed by his creation.

Just because the advancement currently works in favor of the elite (in fact fosters elitism itself to an unprecedented degree) doesn't mean that they have any real control over it or will be able to predict it's final outcome.

I think maybe they are just more advantged by it (being opportunists as well as manipulators), no more than that.Oh, there is a controlled direction in which everything is heading and it goes way back. Everything is planned many years ahead of time. Those who control the system control the spread of technology, so it makes sense that technology is heading in the direction it is. It's not by chance. Nothing that happens at this level is ever by chance. This direction we are headed in terms of a technocratic society was being wirtten about YEARS ago by people like Zbigniew Brzezinski, and it's all coming to fruition before our eyes.

[Shane99X]

Oh, there is a controlled direction in which everything is heading and it goes way back. Everything is planned many years ahead of time. Those who control the system control the spread of technology, so it makes sense that technology is heading in the direction it is. It's not by chance. Nothing that happens at this level is ever by chance.Can the spread of technology really be controlled to such a degree though?

Once 1 guy invents the wheel, the tech is already out there regardless of the intentions of the mind of origin.

Take the net, yes it started w/the military, but do you really think they wanted the populace to be able to communicate and organize to this degree?

It would have worked more to their advantage to keep us in the dark and seperated from each other.

You and i having this conversation works to their disadvantage.

i don't think you can control tech anymore than you can control ideas, you can manipulate, and influence, but not much more than that.

[Pressed_Rat]

Can the spread of technology really be controlled to such a degree though?

Once 1 guy invents the wheel, the tech is already out there regardless of the intentions of the mind of origin.

Take the net, yes it started w/the military, but do you really think they wanted the populace to be able to communicate and organize to this degree?

It would have worked more to their advantage to keep us in the dark and seperated from each other.

You and i having this conversation works to their disadvantage.

i don't think you can control tech anymore than you can control ideas, you can manipulate, and influence, but not much more than that.
Can the spread of technology be controlled to such a degree? Of course it can. Just look at some of the companies behind this surveillance society control grid. There is massive amounts of money behind all this, and it would not be promoted like we see if there was no agenda behind it. This all ties in with the military-industrial complex. Like I said, this was all being written about years ago by elitists like Brzezinski and Huxley. What we see unfolding was being written about in the 40s and 50s, and even before that.

[Pressed_Rat]

It would have worked more to their advantage to keep us in the dark and seperated from each other.The internet has also created a common "global" culture and serves as a perfect tool for the Elite to keep tabs on what the "profane" are thinking.

[wackyiraqi]

Think about how many people have cell phones. Think about how many of those people keep their phone within reach at all times. Think of that cellphone as a GPS tracking unit and a passive microphone that could be transmitting without the owner even knowing. It will not be long before a large percentage of the population will have the potential of being monitored via GPS and audio. If you think Echelon is scary, that is only communication on the wire.

[Shane99X]

PR:


Amazing, i was driving home from work last night and my mind wandered to the same points that you just raised!

shit...

I've got a lot of pondering to do.

I know that the elites control at least the higher levels of the worlds heirarchy through control of international banks, the military industrial complex, paid for politicians, multinational corporations and mass media, but control over the advancement of the industrial/technological system itself?

I dunno...

I'll have to do some more research.

[Ironcore]

Think about the possibilities if there is extraterrestrial technology available to those bastards and they are holding it back to maintain their control over world energy resources. Have you ever heard of The Disclosure Project? They seem to be pretty damn sure that there is some serious world alerting technology which has been withheld for decades in order to maintain their stranglehold on the world economic and industrial platform. Imagine the possibilities if machines such as greater than 100% efficient energy producing units (one was described in the video below) exist but are being withheld!

Watch this vid, even if you think the ET conspiracy is BS, they talk about some scary shit that I mentioned above, right at the end. If this is the case, it will take some serious other worldly intervention to turn this piss poor excuse for humanity around.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4694075066240662837&q=disclosure&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4694075066240662837&q=disclosure&hl=en)

[Shane99X]

Connect Your Brain To The Internet? (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/081206Connect.htm)

HOLY SHIT!

[dd3stp233]

With cell phones, even without gps, the signal can be triangulated and your position located. This was in fact in part how they located that missing family in Oregon last week. There is a least one documented court case where the police remotely turned on a person cell phone, without the person knowing and recorded their conservations.

[Shane99X]

A generation is all they need

KEVIN HAGGERTY
Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1165705809111&call_pageid=968867495754)
Sunday, December 10, 2006

[Shane99X]

Technotopia and the Death of Nature: Clones, Supercomputers, and Robots (http://www.earthisland.org/eijournal/new_articles.cfm?articleID=586&journalID=64)

[Shane99X]

Okay, so i am a technophobe, so what?


Isn't it only natural for one to fear one's excintion and replacement.

Fucking robots, that's the future.

robots and ai.

replaced by self-aware toaster ovens, how absurd...

[Shane99X]

A Singular Rapture (http://www.greenanarchy.org/index.php?action=viewwritingdetail&returnto=viewjournal&printIssueId=5&writingId=182)

How strange that my biggest fear isn't storm troopers bearing the stars and stripes, it isn't blue helmeted multicultural fascists, it isn't communism or religious fundamentalism, it's not nuclear or biological war.

My biggest fear is that Kaczynski is right, we are being enslaved by our former tools...

Fucked Up.

[Shane99X]

Already there are killing machines operating by remote control. Soon the machines will be able to kill on their own initiative. A new warfare is on its way


Click here to read the rest of the article (http://www.newstatesman.com/200606120018)