Are drugs a requirement to being a hippy?

[solareyna]

I kind of object to the thought that in order to be a hippy, you have to smoke pot or do other types of drugs. Am I the only one?

[soaringeagle]

alot of hippies dont touch drugs of any kind

its all about choices and theres many ways to choose to express hipness
some of the highest hippies i know never touch anything

[samson]

I dont think there are any real rules about being a hippy, other than being aware you are one. Doing drugs is something that hippies sometimes do, but not every one is the same. Some hippies are activists, some arent, some hippies are musicians, but not all. Mostly its about being yourself.

[LoriBaby]

no, being a hippie is all about the mindset, although the drugs are super fun!!

[samson]

I do find the drugs take the edge off the oppression of being anti-establishment lol

[Illmaeo]

it kind of comes with the territory. especially cannibus.

a hippy that doesn't smoke is like a greaser who doesn't own any leather. not saying it doesn't happen, just saying when's the last time you met a vegan greaser.

labels are bullshit anyway.
do you.

[clementinexo]

no and if you're concerned with being labelled a hippy well you're probably not one anyway...

[solareyna]

do you.
I think this was a question?? I did my share back before I had a child, I've chilled out since then.

[mortes]

Yea you do. Just because all of you don't choose drugs or you don't think its a requirement, the stereotype is one based off of drugs and peace. Since the question is about a culture group, I'm going with "Yes" Just like in order to be "hxc" you have to wear girl pants. You don't really have to wear those pants, there's no requirement. But regardless its the stereotype and its how people identify and group you.

[andcrs2]

no and if you're concerned with being labelled a hippy well you're probably not one anyway...How True...

[clementinexo]

i don't expect hippies to use drugs. you'd have to be a moron to assume that...

[dd3stp233]

I don't know but there are a lot of people that do drugs that are not hippies.

[TopNotchStoner]

I think this was a question?? I did my share back before I had a child, I've chilled out since then.
I don't think it was a question. "Do you" means be yourself.

[Grim]

Nope.

[MoonDancer]

I get high off of life!
As everyone else says, it's a matter of personal choice. The lifestyle isn't made up of a checklist and if you don't fit the requirments you can't be in the clique, that would be hypocrysy. So No, drugs aren't needed. What IS needed is to just be yourself and if someone tells you to act like someone youre not, you probably shouldnt hang around them anyway.
good luck with finding more people to answer your question Solareyna

[Pepopstico]

"hippie" means different thing to different people. in the 60s it most definitely included drug use. Today more people think of themsleves as hippies, seems most used drugs in the past and some no longer do so.

[erzebet1961]

Of course not...drugs are a personal choice..just like whether to eat meat ...or be spiritual or a realist.....its all a matter of choice. Drugs dont make you a Hippy....

[measa420]

man thats a sad question simply the answer is NO
but its just a sad thing that the label is drugs with the culture
someday i hope its thought of as beautiful people loving one another and beautifying the earth for which we live an for the future of the blessed children
LOVE AND LIGHT
MY BROTHERS
AND SISTER

[eman resu]

lables ar whack

[CrazyWhiteguyX.X]

well u dont need drugs to be a hippy ...but once u do drugs....something in ur mind kinda makes u go into hippy mood even more..i remenber i wanst even close to beying a hippie then i started doing pot...then..coke..then X..DXM..Shrooms..and salvia...and now IM REALLY A HIPPIE!.........i gotta get a job lol...beying a hippie is just basically beying peaceful,chilled out, and understanding...and smelling bad..thats all

[2cesarewild]

Riiighhhtttt....

[Casutt]

What's a hippie?

[superusername]

I believe you must trip or be crazy to reach the true hippy mindset. But to be a hippe is just a word you can were a tie die tshirt and be a hippe if you want to spread love and peace thats all cool better then being a goverment slave. But there are thing with drugs that a person not on drugs could never understand, feel, think, or be that make us more different then people not on them. So opresion is control and feedom is choice I chose yes.

[LittleHip]

I'm happy to see the statistics...

[LittleHip]

You all know that I'm a big anti-marijuanist!

[ImaMuffin]

You don't need drugs to turn on the lights, it's just one way of getting there.

[neponiatka]

I personaly do not use any drugs...
you know... i think there is only one hippy rule- do as you like...do as you feel like to...
that's the main thing. So I don't feel like doing drugs and i think there are many other who think this way..

[twally]

I dont think ur necesarily not a hippie if u dont do drugs but i think hippies usually become hippies from things they learn while tripping and doing drugs

[StayLoose1011]

Of course you don't have to take drugs to be a hippie. Being a hippie is first and foremost about love, peace, free thinking. I mean sure, psychedelics have played a big role in hippie culture and have turned on many to a more "hip" frame of mind, but I think it's safe to say that a peace activist vegetarian who believes in free love and listens to the Beatles all day long is still a hippie even if he/she has never taken a drug.

[skullkidnate]

i think hippy is more of a way of life

[thehippie_08]

it's all about feeling..
what ever you feel like doing, saying, using or taking you can do it.
no room to judge.
however you want to live your life is fine with your brothers and sisters.
=]

[themnax]

not only no but hell no! if you vere to the "LEFT" of political correctness, that is what corporate media coined the term hippie to discredit.

and if the shoe fits; WEAR IT PROUDLY! i damd sure do!

=^^=
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[vcr]

If one does drugs in order to "feel" like they are a hippy then, I would be of the opinion that they are very far from being hip, and very much a conformist.

Oh, as well, in my opinion the question would be more accurate if, instead of "drugs", you had said "hallucinogenic drugs", and the reason for taking them was to induce an altered state of consciousness. But hallucinogens are not the only way to achieve an altered state, meditation, and sensory deprivation tanks, are two others that are, relativly safe. I have also entered into altered states by decidedly unpleasant, and dangerous routes, (not by choice), pain, and high fever.

An argument I did not hear in the 60's and did not come across myself until the mid 80s while pursuing training in the art/discipline, of asking questions of nature, in a way that yeilds ever, less inaccurate answers, i.e. natural science, I would strongly assert, validates the decision to "go electric" on the part of those who, would of themselves, choose to do so. I forget the formal term offhand, for a long time I've been calling it the
Steady State Vanishing Act
First of all incase your haven't ever been presented with the information, the body is the finest example that we know of conservation and this extends to the nervous system as well.
For example do you have a ring, a watch or underwear on? Do you constantly percieve their presence, no you don't things that do not change do not need attention so the nervous system ignores them, alter their position in the slightest and your suddenly fully aware of them again. You want to be fully aware of awareness? a product of the nervous system, well alter it, but do so responsibly, with respect, and discipline.
Find the wonder of being an experiencing being, and dwell in it. Then share that wonder with another of the manifestations of the energy of which every one of the silent stars is also made.
Live love, and become a human being, being fully human.
sine cera

[vactom]

If it weren't for drugs, hippies wouldn't have existed.

[franklinstower]

i dont think you need to do drugs to be a hippy the only problem i hav is that ive been automatically labeled as a drug atic since ive become a hippy

[sexbanshee]

I was always known as a hippy at school and then since leaving...I have been known as "bohemian, unusual" etc

Dont do drugs....they bore me....

I like love and sex and music and getting onto a dancefloor and headbanging without any booze or drugs inside me....

That is what I call freedom!

[Loveminx]

Dont do drugs....they bore me....

Me too...I used to always be out and getting my hands on anything...
now I'm just not interested...been there, done that.

[slowlane]

Sure, I have known hippies that did not use drugs, but that was decades ago...I think that you would have to be open to being buzzed occasionally to really fully appreciate the hippy experience these days.

[alektrahippie]

why should you even be worrying about being labelled a hippie or not.
other than that no, but shiiit marujuana opens up your mind so much.

[The_Walrus]

I don't think so.
I don't do drugs, but I'm probably the biggest hippie in my school.

[superusername]

hahah i love kids please bring it back in the youth young ones. Drugs are the best though you cant feel upside down, sideways, flat, and everywere wile knowing anything but everything unless your on them if yeah feel me

[Archemetis]

raw food will get you higher than all your tripping buddies. im talking about the kind of high where your ready to walk on water.

[westham]

you dont have to take drugs to be a hippie.you just have to be yourself.

[Love_Her_Madly]

I do find the drugs take the edge off the oppression of being anti-establishment lol
Nice. That made me laugh totally. Good Stuff man.

I dont believe that drugs make you hip. Like many people have said its a personal choice.

[MrHighCharli3]

shit.. i said yeah. i think if you dont smoke you dont understand. so yes.

[PsychMyke]

Hippies are from the late 60's, the were part of the new left...everyne who claims to be a hippy now is imitating

[superusername]

^^^ agreed most people who were hippies in the 60s are now leading the country or gave up on peace in general. I consider a "hippie" someone who's religion is derived from drugs. Since after there trip they get a piece of the puzzle and see what hippies were about in the 60s. I'm not saying there isn't a new psychedelic counter culture but its real underground. Since we all know change can not be made everything the hippie movement stood for is now dead exept the following Freedom, and Love. Peace and Revolution are inposible. So if you consider yourself a hippie you are honestly only 50% hippie. Then agin if your triped out sideways and don't consider yourself a hippie you try to hard to make yourself not look like a fake hippie..... Dope fiends are silly

[praying4peace]

i used to think that if you wanted to be a hippie you had to smoke pot.

but after i went through a major change i realised that drugs arent required in order to be a hippie. its all a frame of mind.

i made a decision to stop smoking pot until i finish school, because i want to challenge myselfand do well at school. and just another reason added to my list.... you dont have to do drugs to be a hippie.
peace

[superusername]

I like this thread because alot of my life philosophy is based on the opening question. As for you praying4peace weed has nothing to do at all with being a hippie. Back in the 60s and 70s weed was everywere for everybuddy even for people who didn't consider them selfs hippies. Were the relation to weed and hippies comes in is just drugs in general. So when people who don't get drugs think hippie they think weed because thats a drug they can understand "o that hippie is high". In truth all weed sucked dick back in the 60s and just made you sleepy. What made hippies become hippies back in the 60s was LSD that started it and for people that didn't take it still influenced them threw the music they listened to or what not. It also became the rebellion to do like early 50 motor cycle clubs, late 50 early 60s beet nick, 60s hippie, 70s junkies, 80s punks, 90s grunge & rap, and today rap and new alt rock. So why should I bring all this up to show you what most people think of todays hippie kids ecpesily the young ones. You ever look at green day fans and go man them kids aint punk at all they have no idea what it stands for. Well thats what old hippies who gave it up think and people in your schools and friend circles think. Im not saying your fake but if you go around going hey mannnnn or peace everygod damn min look at yourself and think is that me. Thats the end of my rant on this topic if you got any questions please contact me but let me finish with this drugs don't make you "hip" they cure problems that people have, if you want to be "hip" remember green day, and most inportently if you feel like your a good person and believe in peace your probley really smart so don't do drugs because it will eventually lead to LSD then you'll know what im talking about. So please if you think you can do some good do some fucking good and don't get high all god damn day.

[beautifulhippie2]

I love getting high. But that's because I choose to do it. You don't have tou if you don't want to!

[tyedie]

:H no,drugs are not an requirement. it's lifestyle. and personally i drink.:jester:

[moonchildhippielove]

Hippies are those who are at peace with them selfs and at peace with the world!! Drugs arent nessacary!! But yes they are very fun!!!!!!!!!!




Golden Sunshine!!

[IlUvMuSIc]

I would NEVER take drugs (excluding medicene) or drink alcohol but i guess thats how i was/am brought up. My folks don't smoke, drink or puff etc and as far as i know never have.

[PsychMyke]

hippies....were from.....the 60's....

people can be "hip" nowadays, but no one is a hippy. Unless youve been rockin the tie die loud and proud since 69' that is. Drugs had everything to do with the original hippies (LSD mainly). If you didnt do drugs you were a square, a slave to the system trapped in a giant trench of social conformity. Drugs were how they seperated themselves from the rest of the tainted american society at the time because if gave them an outsiders perspective on how much it sucked. It was part of their generation, one of the many things that seperated them from their parents. No one is a hippy unless your out there protesting and actively trying to make a difference with a large group of people. Drugs wouldnt have anything to dowith it nowadays because alot of people do drugs, even clones of the American machine do drugs. Its no longer a seperating factor.

If you do psychedelic drugs nowadays and you have the hippie-ish mindset = Raver
If you smoke weed = pothead
coke = cokehead
Meth = Methhead

drugs dont make you a hippie anymore. They just make you American ;-D

[NorCaliGreenFiend]

Jesus Christ, PsychMike answered the shit outta that question. I kind of dont want to post after him, but what the hell. all you "hippy" assholes who are posting on this thread need to get your heads out of you asses. Almost every everyone of you says that you don't use drugs, that they aren't necessary to life, or to be a hippy. Well thats a load of crap because the entire concept of the counter-culture is to rise against the lessons school , tv and parents impose on us. you're all just parroting health class drug lessons- how you don't need drugs to be yourself and friends don't pressure friends. Don't you realize that you aren't really hippies, your exactly the same as the mainstream you so conveniently disregard. Drugs=enlightenment=revolution. No wonder no one likes hippies, theyre contradictory hypocritical assholes.

[Colimon]

I believe that all hippies should have the choice. I like to think like hippies, grow my hair, be open minded, and do natural drugs, but I don't think others have to to be hippies.

[dexisagoodthing]

this conversation is so stupid... when people actually call themselves a "hippie" theyre not saying it because theyre trying to conform to some sort of set of stereotypes that people associate with being a hippie.. theyre just saying it because they know theyre lifestyle comes off as what people call a hippie.. im sitting here wishing that people didn't stereotype me as a hippie/druggy/freak etc because from "mainstream" people always end up looking down on you one way or another for it... but people are sitting here on these forums actually worrying if they wont be a "hippie" anymore if they stop doing drugs, like its some sort of freakin title of accomplishment! if your sitting here worry about that, dont worry the answer is NO. it doesnt make your a hippie and you arent a hippie! you arent because a real "hippie"(although i dont actually label people like that anything) doesnt even think like that, its pretty against everything like labelling and judging people based on shallow things like that.... but of course the actually people who think like us arent calling themselves hippies in the sense you are.. maybe saying hippie just because they know thats a word for it.. but we dont act anyway to fit into any sort of "rules"... thats fucked up man...

psychemike isnt right about it either... hes analyzing people as shallowly as you are...

being "hippie" isnt a title to conform to, its a lifestyle and mindset that the mainstream has labeled hippie overtime... i guess because it came from something that was a style to conform from.. beatnic/hipster because hippie over time.. meaning to be hip.. but what that became is contradictory to its original meaning and its one thing when normal people dont get that its ok.. but when people calling themselves hippies in that way.. like to fit into the retro fad thats fucked up... and its not like you cant even dress like a hippie just as a trend.. thats fine.. but dont take it so damn seriously.. your turning into something you think you have to conform to.. and thinking you have to conform to anything is fucked up.. especially when the thing your trying to conform to was about not conforming in the first place!!

[Creek]

First Of All, Of Course You Don't Have To Do Any Type Of Drug To Be A "Hippie"And Second, Dexis, You Are Quick To Say That PsycheMike And Solareyna Are "Shallowly Analyzing" People When All I See Them Doing Are Expressing Their Opinions, Just As You Were, Just As We ALL Do Here...No Conversation Is Stupid When In Response To An Honest, Simple Question...But Hey, That's Just My Opinion : )

[stacy lulu]

oh let the kids think theyre "hippies" http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

and no nothing is an requirement to do drugs

[PsyGrunge]

Definitely not. Being a hippy is a culture, a way of life. You don't need drugs to live; they just enhance life, not a requirement.

[**PsYcHoDeLiC**]

cant people just be themselves without categorising
hippies were from the 60s so unless you were one then then it doesnt make sense if your one now

just be yourself nd dont worry what others think you are

and i do think drugs played an essential part in being a hippy...sorry just my opinion =)

PEAACE x x x

[Puffis]

I don't, the thing about drugs is the remove your inhibitions which helps, because hippies kind to break free of their inhibitions in order to seperate from "normal" society so they can pusue a better, peaceful society.

[Autobot]

Definition of hippy
A person who opposes and rejects many of the conventional standards and customs of society, especially one who advocates extreme liberalism in sociopolitical attitudes and lifestyles.

Says nothing about drugs.
If you want to dive in to it further, the fact you don't do drugs would make you even more hippy. LOL

Anyways, if a hippy tells you that you have to do drugs to be a hippy, then they are not realy a hippy. If anyone else tries to tell you that then they do not know what a hippy is.

[entables]

aren't words such as those determined to personal interpretation?
the word hippy means something different to different people
just like the word gay represented happy years ago.
i see hippy as being various things.
my basic view of a hippy is an easy going individual who listens to good music, loves to lounge, and trys to enjoy life as much as they can.

another definition of hippie

"c.1965, Amer.Eng. (Haight-Ashbury slang), from earlier hippie, 1953, usually a disparaging variant of hipster (1941) "person who is keenly aware of the new and stylish," from hip "up-to-date" (see hip (adj.))."

pretty much hippie/hippy is an americanized word.
too lazy to say hipster so they shorten the speaking method to hippie...generally means the same thing...but hippie seems more of a term towards yesteryear.
hipster

here is a funny video about hipsters...maybe some othe people here will appreciate it :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAO4EVMlpwM

[maddhatter]

drugs aren't something hippies need to do, it's just what most of them like to do. so no it's not a requiremnt.

[peacechicka1]

Nope, not in my opinion.

[somenerdyfreak]

to be a hippy, yes. to be a peace-lover/liberal/pinko/libertarian, etc, no.

[elover]

Of course not. It's a stereotype.

[justblaze420]

i think hippy is more of a way of life
much agreed

[themnax]

absolutely NOT AT ALL. getting and being stoned never had a damd thing to do with what real hippies were all about. mellow, laid back and creative, yes, but not in any way dependent upon the recreational consumption of neurotropic substances.

real hippies started smoking pot, granted partially as a political statement of anarchist defiance, but primarily and even more, as a way to AVOID becoming the kind of dumbed down alcohaulics many saw their own parents as having become.

encouraging people to empair their own judgement is a mainstream stratigy to keep the gullable dumbed down and ignorant of vested manipulations which were thus enabled to usurp popular political proccessess. the very antithisis of what real hippidom was all about.

the drug thing and even the word hippie, were invented by the military/corporate media complex, to discredit intelligent, libral minded, politically active, mostly young, and or young thinking, people, who in fact and reality, held and still do, the moral high ground. something no fanatics of any stripe, least of all fanatics of the alcohaul pickled bussiness as usual status quo, have ever been nor will ever be, capable of.

anyone who believes getting or staying, stoned/enibriated/wasted, equals being a hippie, has been conned, lied to, and brainwashed.

=^^=
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[.Xen.]

i completely disagree with people saying that hippies were from the 60's.. first off I only use the term to discribe someone that is liberal, in tune with there world, and on a quest for enlightenment of some sort.. to be honest that discribes a lot of people... like for example... MOST PAGANS! lol. "hippy" is a mind set... its a life style choice and they are few and far between but i have met people that are born with this mentality... but for the most part people come to this life style choice thru the use of psychedelics and people who deny that are probably intentionally over looking the truth.. I was liberal before i started doing acid... but i wasnt a peace searcher... i didnt enjoy the world around me as much.. i didnt understand how everything is connected and i didnt care about making the world a better place or going out and trying to change things.. now im about 10 ft from full blown activist... im in the workings of planning a strike and protest at my school b/c they are treating us like slaves... trying to make more money off the students that already go there instead of actually trying to bring in new students... and deffinatley NOT respecting our contracts. Now i want to make a difference...
the MAJORITY OF HIPPIES IN THE 60'S WERE THE WAY THEY WERE B/C OF THE USE OF LSD... not all of them.. but most of them. which means that "hippies" can still be made thru the use of LSD.. ALSO you dont have to dress in hemp clothing and listen to pink floyd and have dreads to be a "hippy" i really think that all it takes is the mentality.. if you look at the 60's they didnt all look the same.. in fact they all varried greatly in attitude, dress, and likes but they all had that common love and generosity...
RAVERS ARE NOT FUCKING HIPPIES! I WANT TO MAKE THAT FUCKING CLEAR! 90% OF ALL RAVERS ARE JUST DRUG ADDICTS. I HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE SEATTLE RAVE SCENE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND I AM SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF THAT COMPARISON. ravers are irrisponsible.. and as soon as they are sober they dont care who the fuck you are or what your about. they have no respect and distroy everything. including there own venues...
in seattle there are "ravers" and there are "psykids" or what ever you wanna call them... the people (like me) that only go to the psychedelic trance parties or DnB parties... i cant fucking stand kandi parties and all the 14 yearold drugged out jailbate running around. clumping ravers and hippies into the same catagory is like clumping punks and emo kids into the same catagory... Regular ravers only believe in Plur while there high on there stupid little almost plastic skittles. grrr...
I used to be a raver.. i remember what it was about.
Another thing... what is the difference between what is going on now in the US and what was going on in the 60's? No draft? thats about it. We are in the middle of a fucked up oppressive war and the only thing were missing is a chemical revolution like in the 60's OR SOME REAL FUCKING LEADERS! b/c we have no real activist leaders. i would love to get out and protest but no one does it any more. lol. they just bitch about everything thats wrong with the world on internet forums where no one cares... haha..

all an all.. no drugs are not a requirement.. but they obviously help. lol

[i0-techno]

I knew a hippy that was a priest, he did not do drugs. My most clear moments of 'hippyness' is when I have gone long bouts with no drugs and more meditation.

[Tanman35]

i think that being a hippie is just accepting everyone for who they are and whatever makes them happy. drugs or no drugs do ur thing