How do I ingest morning glory seeds

[gib_0101]

Morning glory seeds are one of the few legal psychedelic drugs. I wanted to try them out, so I bought a few hundred, pounded them back and puked up about 80% of them. For the rest of the afternoon I had a mild LSD-like trip. Is there a way of preparing them so that I don't puke them up

[soaringeagle]

legal yes..smart no
do research..morning glory seeds can be dangerouse
most you'd buy also have pestacixdes & crap on em that are poisions
your better off & safer sticking with illegal ones like shrooms

[Grapefruity]

First, make sure they are not coated with poison. Sometimes it will be written *untreated* on the pack. Thats good. If not, call the company and ask em.

When you know they arent poisonous...Ill give ya two ways. Powder some seeds with a pepper mill and mix em with water in a jar, shake it a few times a day , then the great moment after a few days to drink this shit. It is no good believe me and makes ya gag :p

Or do the same thing but with iso alcohol, and then filter and evaporate. I have never tried it, but I believe it would hit harder, and give less nausea. Also you just have to eat a little gunky stuff, not drink 3 days old tea.

[hotwater]

Besides it's hallucinogenic properties (formerly used in Aztec rituals) it's also a known laxative - so be careful :eek:



really careful



Hotwater

[Colimon]

I'd say don't eat store bought ones. Either eat natural ones or home-grown ones. Most store bought ones have small ammounts of cyanide and other deadly chemicals in small ammounts. To consume with more nausia, smash them and grind them and make mix it into a drink. You could also do an extract, but I'd advise doing that experienced or at least educated on teh subject.

[Conformist2]

put them in a bottle of warm water to wash off the poison stuff
and then shake the bottle for 20 seconds
and then eat the seeds
you need like 2 pakages of seeds to get any effects
the hallucinations are like acid but different

[cricketlind]

Hey guys if you are gonna make a tincture of anything. Tincture: extracting active compouds of a plant, seed, bark, root in alcohol. Use only EDIBLE alcohol. Then it must be at least 50% by volume pure alcohol. Or 100 proof. Vodka, brandy, moonshine, Everclear, etc. That means isopropyl, methanol, denatured alcohol iof any kind is out. You can seriously mess up your system with anything else. You can die, go blind, mess up your liver and other organs. Alcohol is the best method of extracting alkaloids. I am an herbalist and I have heard too many horror stories of folks making tinctures with other kinds of alcohol. Yeah you can drive off the alcohol itself but what about the other componets of the stuff? I am not saying don't extract your morning glory seeds with alcohol or telling you not to do them. But be as safe as you can be. Also, most pesticides and poisons they put on seeds are Not water soluble. You can't wash it all off. Otherwise when you plant the seeds it would just wash off in the ground and be useless. The dyes wash off. They are only there to tag the seeds as treated. Until they get planted and then they are not needed. Use only organic and/or untreated seeds of any kind if you are gonna ingest them.

Peace and blessings, Cricket

[mjstar93]

you need like 2 pakages of seeds to get any effects.

That is true. I tried 45 seeds and saw the walls move for like 2 sec. ( I'm mean the Morning Glory Seeds)

[Eugene]

^ placebo probably.

You need at least 500 seeds for any type of decent experience.

The only way i found to reduce nasua is to drop a dramimine a 1/2 hour before i trip.

[gib_0101]

^ placebo probably.

You need at least 500 seeds for any type of decent experience.

The only way i found to reduce nasua is to drop a dramimine a 1/2 hour before i trip.
You need at least 100 - 150. 500 will blow your mind (so I'm told). What is dramimine?

[kidsmoke]

The best way to ingest them is rectal suppository. Have fun.

[gib_0101]

Already got my turkey baster :lol:

[eman resu]

they give you horrible muscle cramps i used to eat them constanly when I had never tried L and when shrooms were rarley availible to me, i didnt no shit about anything (still dont no shit) but i no enough to tell you never fcuking eat them It is such a painful shitty trip i remember one night i ate four hits of L and i watched some kid who had ate close to 1000 skin trun white curl up into a little ball on the floor and make crazy ass noises for hours strait he ended up puking everywere one of my other friends who also ate L started freaking out because he thought the kid was goign to die he wanted to bring him to the hostpital but i wouldent let anyone leave. talk about and shitty experience.

[kidsmoke]

I'm not supporting it, but I've had only one experience with morning glory and it was very pleasant.

[eman resu]

compared to mushrooms or acid?

[eman resu]

Personjaly i think it feels like a hint of mushrooms, a hint of L, and a whole lotta Shit.

[kidsmoke]

Most certainly closer to L. It lasted about 14 hours for fucks sake. Not as clean as L, but the resemblance was there.

[gib_0101]

Hey guys if you are gonna make a tincture of anything. Tincture: extracting active compouds of a plant, seed, bark, root in alcohol. Use only EDIBLE alcohol. Then it must be at least 50% by volume pure alcohol. Or 100 proof. Vodka, brandy, moonshine, Everclear, etc. That means isopropyl, methanol, denatured alcohol iof any kind is out. You can seriously mess up your system with anything else. You can die, go blind, mess up your liver and other organs. Alcohol is the best method of extracting alkaloids. I am an herbalist and I have heard too many horror stories of folks making tinctures with other kinds of alcohol. Yeah you can drive off the alcohol itself but what about the other componets of the stuff? I am not saying don't extract your morning glory seeds with alcohol or telling you not to do them. But be as safe as you can be. Also, most pesticides and poisons they put on seeds are Not water soluble. You can't wash it all off. Otherwise when you plant the seeds it would just wash off in the ground and be useless. The dyes wash off. They are only there to tag the seeds as treated. Until they get planted and then they are not needed. Use only organic and/or untreated seeds of any kind if you are gonna ingest them.

Peace and blessings, Cricket
I tried disolving them in alcohol once. I used 100 proof stuff and mixed about 400-500 seeds (grinded to a powder). It didn't do a thing for me. What happens if you let it sit in the alcohol for too long? It sat there for about 1 month before I drank it. Good thing was I didn't get sick either.

Also, what color is the dye?

[kidsmoke]

You most certainly may use isopropyl. Just make certain to let it all evaporate off. Strait grain is expensive. You can pick up rubbing alcohol for a couple berries.

[C123-473]

The best way to prepare morning glory seeds is with the two-part, non-polar/alcohol extraction as found here:

http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory_extraction2.shtml

If using everclear and SWIY doesn't want to drink alcohol, SWIY could let 99% of the alcohol evaporate in a glass dish, then add water to rehydrate and collect the residue.

*Just make sure you let the non-polar solvent evaporate completely!
Also read all the warning about LSA in the vault...

http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory.shtml

[C123-473]

I tried disolving them in alcohol once. I used 100 proof stuff and mixed about 400-500 seeds (grinded to a powder). It didn't do a thing for me. What happens if you let it sit in the alcohol for too long? It sat there for about 1 month before I drank it. Good thing was I didn't get sick either.

Also, what color is the dye?I've read that there is another compound in the seeds that counteracts the psychedelic effect. Doing a non-polar wash first will remove it.

[C123-473]

they give you horrible muscle cramps i used to eat them constanly when I had never tried L and when shrooms were rarley availible to me, i didnt no shit about anything (still dont no shit) but i no enough to tell you never fcuking eat them It is such a painful shitty trip i remember one night i ate four hits of L and i watched some kid who had ate close to 1000 skin trun white curl up into a little ball on the floor and make crazy ass noises for hours strait he ended up puking everywere one of my other friends who also ate L started freaking out because he thought the kid was goign to die he wanted to bring him to the hostpital but i wouldent let anyone leave. talk about and shitty experience.
Using alcohol to extract the LAA-111 from the seed will eliminate all the negative effects described above.

Water will still take some of the negative with it into the extraction.


Another reason you want to do the non-polar/alcohol extraction.

[C123-473]

Don't want to click on links, but still curious about this method?
Here it is for your theoretical contemplation:

1) Powder 650 Morning Glory seeds in a coffee grinder.
2) Soak seeds in non-polar wash (ie. Naphtha) for 10 minutes.
3) Filter (manual drip coffee), save seeds, dispose of Naphtha.
4) Dry seeds completely until you smell no more solvent (2 days).
5) Soak seeds in everclear for a day.
6) Filter, save alcohol, dispose of seeds.
7) If using everclear, evaporate in glass baking dish until 99% gone (~3 days).
* -If using Isopropyl, evaporate completely (~4 days).
8) Add just enough water to aid in collection of residue.

The alcohol could be consumed after step 6 (if using everclear), but you're not supposed to drink alcohol with lysergic acids for some reason I've forgotten now. I don't think it's a big deal if you're healthy, but SWIM doesn't like alcohol anyway.

Also, make sure SWIY doesn't take too much. Too much is bad because it constricts your blood vessels.
Read up on LSA and LAA-111.

And keep in mind this is MORNING GLORY, not Hawaiian baby woodrose.

[C123-473]

Of course, there are still questions and variables.


Like, how does xylol compare to naphtha for a non-polar?
Or, is isopropyl as/more/less effective than ethanol for the alcohol?
What happens when the extraction time is lengthened,
or if the alcohol is warmed?
What effect does the DRY, sticky residue have?
Etc.

As you can see, it's not exactly a properly hammered out scientific procedure. There is still a lot of experimentation possible.

[CaptainBeefheartFan]

I have read that you can extract the LSA from the seeds with a certain pH of water. Does anyone know of this

[gib_0101]

Then we need to find out what the PH level is and where I can get said water.

[StonerMetalHead]

I have a whole bunch of morning glories growing in my front yard so I know they have no pesticides,how can I simply ingest them

[SuperbL]

you bought ones that were purposely poisioned so people wouldn't eat them, you cant just by them from art knapps (plant and potting store), get them from the wild, or a head shop(marijauna paraphanailia store)