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woodsman
10-10-2006, 05:48 AM
Should we legalize LSD and usher in a new age of psychedelia, or should we preserve the status quo and leave the ban in place?

soaringeagle
10-10-2006, 06:01 AM
its not like its hard to get now..& lsd is powerful medicine & is not for everyone..i already see alotta overuse & abuse & not giving it the respect it desserves, so even though i've probly done over 1000 hits or who knows, i'd still hafta sayy ithink it shouldnt be legalized for general use althoughthe pressent situation with how hard they can come down on u should be changed
as a recreational drug ithink it should be illegal, but when used properly as a mind expansion or for spiritual journies a certain level of acceptability is understandable
ionly saythat though cause i can imagine what could happen if it was legalized & we had people losing theyre minds all over the place & taking so much they cease to function as human beings

if u can find a book called 'barefoot in the head' i think its a good example of how a psychodelic society could end up

clementinexo
10-10-2006, 06:40 AM
sure, why not.
hah.

Aesthete
10-10-2006, 12:43 PM
Yeah. In my libertarian view all drugs should be legalized.

blitz7341
10-10-2006, 09:59 PM
same^^^all dugs exept cocaine

Panzer
10-11-2006, 09:11 PM
All drugs should be legal.

maiyaku
10-12-2006, 01:18 AM
I had to write a research paper on LSD last semester. I dont think it should be legalized for public recreational use nor should the charges be as harsh as they are now unless someone intentionally tampered with someones intake, intentionally inducing trip on someone. Ever since I wrote my paper about it, I have been interested in it and trying to find it. It doesnt seem to exist in the mid-south U.S. anymore. I have been self experimenting with nootropics that Albert Hofmann designed like hydergine in high doses and have noticed a considerable larger ability to concentrate.

Anyone have any ideas of what the future of LSD will be? Hard to make unless yur a well educated chemist, and most chemist that have this ability would probably feel moraly obligated to not create this drug unless their job demanded it for the better of society which is doubtful to happen.

elephantking
10-12-2006, 02:31 AM
The time to legalize any drug is now.

beatlerific
10-12-2006, 02:43 AM
i don't know.. i voted no because i think that many people these days would abuse drugs. there's a time, place, and reason to use drugs and so many people don't realize that.

elephantking
10-12-2006, 03:39 AM
While I agree with the possible negative effects on society from drug legalization, the matter is much larger. It is a matter of freedom and personal choice, and that must be acheived at any cost.

<3 Anarchism.

Balloonatic
10-12-2006, 03:43 AM
i dont think its a good idea lsd is waaaay to intense for some people. i seen someone try & scratch out there ayeballs & one person try & jump out a fucking window. some people just cant handle themselves and by making it legal people are going to get the idea that it safe for everyone.

elephantking
10-12-2006, 03:54 AM
It is ridiculous to say some people can and some people can't. I agree that a lot of people couldn't handle LSD, but that is only for individuals to decide.

beatlerific
10-12-2006, 10:39 AM
i don't think it's ridiculous. it's true. i've seen many people flip out on lsd..

elephantking
10-12-2006, 09:05 PM
When I said it is ridiculous that some people can and some can't, I meant it would be ridiculous to "allow" only some people to try it. I agree that some can't handle it and will flip out, but taking away the choice is inherently tyrranical and makes you just as bad as the prohibitionists sitting in the DEA offices and in congress.

TheMadcapSyd
10-12-2006, 09:15 PM
same^^^all dugs exept cocaineWhy all but cocaine? If we're gonna be selective, aren't crack and heroin much worse.

trippedelia
10-13-2006, 08:20 AM
lol yep ill just wait till this thread makes a difference, then cruise down to my local pharm and pick up some legal doses.

phoenix_indigo
10-14-2006, 04:25 AM
its not like its hard to get now..says who? I have been looking since my first trip back in 2001 for some and yet to come across any which has been a major bummer. i had to look for 2 years just to get what i got back in '01. *urgh* maybe i just never meet the right people?

*grumbles to herself in a corner now*

PsyGrunge
10-17-2006, 08:10 PM
yes they should legalize it because i'd be able to get hold of more of it then :)

bigman
10-18-2006, 03:31 AM
Well I Dont Think That Lsd Would Be Easy To Legalize Here In The U.s. Two Many Kids Use It And Go Trippin And Do Such Dumb Shit. So I Think It Should Be Legalized I Just Dont Think Its A Possibility Though

soaringeagle
10-21-2006, 08:42 PM
Well I Dont Think That Lsd Would Be Easy To Legalize Here In The U.s. Two Many Kids Use It And Go Trippin And Do Such Dumb Shit. So I Think It Should Be Legalized I Just Dont Think Its A Possibility Though speaking of which
that was you that did a legal psychodelic & are in the hospitol now right? damn hope your ok
talk about goin trippin & doin dumb shit huh?
guess your really wishin lsd was legal now so u wouldnt have been tempted to try plants in your yard

indian~summer
10-21-2006, 10:58 PM
i don't think it should be legalized...it is illegal for a reason, it's not just "the mans" way of controlling you...lsd fucks people up, true lsd that is...obviously the acid that's available today isn't pure lsd...
i've seen this on the history channel, the history of lsd is extremely interesting...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5904240612788659431&q=transcendence
i think it's only part one though...

although many people experiement with lsd and it is a good thing in some cases, it doesn't mean that it's going to be a good thing for everyone

some drugs should be legalized, but some drugs are illegal for a reason

soaringeagle
10-21-2006, 11:04 PM
i totaly agree with you as always
but would add that some that are legal should be illegal
or no..fuck the law..doesnt matter if theyre illegal or not..some just should not be used
(dont mean lsd)
(but lsd is overused)

Viruk
10-24-2006, 01:09 AM
All drugs should be legal in a free country, plain and simple. Legalize it, tax it, and use the money collected from taxes to pay for hospitalizations.
People arent stupid, if lots of people start getting fucked up, then the people who dont want to be fucked up with stop, and they rest wont care and will get fucked up, natural selection.

bananadine
10-24-2006, 03:52 AM
i don't think it should be legalized...it is illegal for a reason, it's not just "the mans" way of controlling you...lsd fucks people up,All drugs of abuse have that potential. And the potential for abuse is much higher with alcohol and tobacco than it is with a drug like LSD. The statement "LSD fucks you up" is about as "true" as "the sun causes crops to wither and die." Sure it does. But that's not the whole story. A component of legalization should/would be education: and I'm not talking about DARE.true lsd that is...obviously the acid that's available today isn't pure lsd...That's not true either. A recent experiment (reported in "Erowid Extracts") with a vial of Sandoz acid has put that little rumor to rest. There are research chemicals being passed off as LSD, but generally, if it walks like a duck and looks like a duck and swims like a duck, it'll quack at you too.
i've seen this on the history channel, the history of lsd is extremely interesting...It is. This is quite a good capsule history (45 minutes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89S_o7fOwpA

although many people experiement with lsd and it is a good thing in some cases, it doesn't mean that it's going to be a good thing for everyoneNothing is a good thing for everyone. Do you think peanuts and latex should be illegal because some people have severe allergies to them? I'm uncomfortable with the idea that drugs should be illegal to keep them out of the hands of a nebulous "some people". Prohibition didn't work with alcohol and it's not working with other drugs. Period.

woodsman
10-24-2006, 08:55 AM
Do you think peanuts and latex should be illegal because some people have severe allergies to them? I'm uncomfortable with the idea that drugs should be illegal to keep them out of the hands of a nebulous "some people". Prohibition didn't work with alcohol and it's not working with other drugs. Period.Good point bananadine, I agree.

Conformist2
10-24-2006, 12:48 PM
lsd is perfectly safe unless you have mental problems
LEGALIZE IT BITCHES heh

Stand.
10-24-2006, 12:53 PM
I think to many people would take it with the wrong mindset, it would also get really abused if it was illegal. I think it should be legalised to be done under special conditions and such for people who want to try it.

kidsmoke
10-27-2006, 07:48 AM
All drugs should indeed be legal. To quote the late Bill Hicks: "It's a personal choice, just like alcohol, just like cigarettes. As long as that personal choice does not infringe upon the freedoms of other persons personal choice. Thats called logic, it'll help you."

woodsman
10-27-2006, 11:59 PM
That hits the nail right on the head, kidsmoke. I totally agree.

AmericaOnLSD
10-31-2006, 03:20 AM
I see LSD as a tool. Like many other tools - such as a car or a computer or even alcohol, it can be used in ways that are both beneficial and harmful.

With alcohol, it is assumed that a person must reach a certain age to be qualified to make the decision to drink or not. With a car, a person has to be a certain age and also pass a test to be able to drive.

Personally, I think LSD should be legal once a person is a certain age and can show that they have the necessary knowledge about it to make responsible decisions (possibly through some sort of testing). Maybe some people would consider this going too far. If so, then certainly a doctor (psychiatrist) should be able to prescribe it for supervised use if given his knowledge he feels it would be helpful to the patient.

woodsman
10-31-2006, 04:19 AM
If they did that, do you think people would actually obey the age limit? I'm not sure if they would. I mean, If people can get alcohol before they turn 21, it seems like they would do the same thing with LSD.

trippedelia
10-31-2006, 04:23 AM
shit yeah they would

AmericaOnLSD
11-01-2006, 12:06 AM
If they did that, do you think people would actually obey the age limit? I'm not sure if they would. I mean, If people can get alcohol before they turn 21, it seems like they would do the same thing with LSD.Some people wouldn't, just like some people drink or drive a car before they are of legal age. But most probably would, just like probably only a minority of under-age people drink or drive (at least regularly).

woodsman
11-06-2006, 04:43 AM
I don't think an age limit would work. I'd say you would have underage people getting around the regulation the same as with alcohol, and in my opinion, this renders the age limit ineffective.

polymer
11-07-2006, 05:25 AM
I have been self experimenting with nootropics that Albert Hofmann designed like hydergine in high doses and have noticed a considerable larger ability to concentrate.really?? all it did was give me a headache...though I do think nootropics have utility. piracetam's been pretty good to me


Anyone have any ideas of what the future of LSD will be? Hard to make unless yur a well educated chemist, and most chemist that have this ability would probably feel moraly obligated to not create this drug unless their job demanded it for the better of society which is doubtful to happen.speak for yourself... if I had the means to synth d1ethylamine, and the green light from the misses...

what does morality have to do with it? where's the moral obligation in the health care industry, when your options are limited to Phizer and Roche products that have ridiculous side effects?

branflakes
11-10-2006, 03:23 AM
All drugs should indeed be legal. To quote the late Bill Hicks: "It's a personal choice, just like alcohol, just like cigarettes. As long as that personal choice does not infringe upon the freedoms of other persons personal choice. Thats called logic, it'll help you."
Yes, but many, myself included, assume that choices made under the influence of an intense hallucinogen don't have any real "merit" compared to choices made while sober. I'm sorry, but LSD is an extremely powerful, mind-altering drug and it would take a huge leap of faith to be able to completely trust that everyone that takes it would be able to make competent, mindful decisions while under its influence.

That doesn't mean I'm against its use. http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/newsmilies/biggrinjester.gif

Silverbackman
11-10-2006, 04:31 AM
All drugs should be legalized! It is a basic natural right to be able to ingest yourself with whatever substance you want. It's a natural right, human right, and essential for a free society. The government has no right to tell you what you can and cannot do.

Government is not the solution to any drug problems. Prohibition never works. Why do you think America has it the worst? It is the most harsh against drug users who are mostly non-violent. When drugs got banned, we saw a huge increase in drug use in America. Not only in the receant drug prohibition, remember alcohol prohibition? That was a nightmare and so is the current War On Drugs.

Even if I chose to ban drugs, I would never go after LSD. Sure it's powerful and yes perhaps more people do not have the mental strength to handle it. However, LSD is a soft drug that doesn't lead to addiction. It is virtually impossible to overdose and there are little to no health risks. Same goes with other soft drugs such as mescaline, shrooms, weed, ect. If I was to ban drugs I would ban the harder psychomotor stimulants (cocaine, speed, ect.) and the opiates (morphine, heroin, ect.) HOWEVER, no matter how bad a substance is prohibition is never the answer. It just makes everything worse. And the government has no right to detirmine what is bad and what isn't. They obviously don't have clue now (considering the fact they go after soft drugs more than hard drugs).

eman resu
11-10-2006, 05:11 PM
LSd should be 100% legal 18 and up

kidsmoke
11-17-2006, 09:52 AM
Yes, but many, myself included, assume that choices made under the influence of an intense hallucinogen don't have any real "merit" compared to choices made while sober. I'm sorry, but LSD is an extremely powerful, mind-altering drug and it would take a huge leap of faith to be able to completely trust that everyone that takes it would be able to make competent, mindful decisions while under its influence.

That doesn't mean I'm against its use. http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/newsmilies/biggrinjester.gifYou seem to have ignored the kicker:

"As long as that personal choice does not infringe upon the freedoms of other persons personal choice. Thats called logic, it'll help you."

branflakes
11-17-2006, 08:57 PM
You seem to have ignored the kicker:

"As long as that personal choice does not infringe upon the freedoms of other persons personal choice. Thats called logic, it'll help you."What point are you trying to make?

kidsmoke
11-17-2006, 09:13 PM
What point are you trying to make?The quote I was using is in black and white. Do what you want as long as you are not hurting anyone else. It's a very simple philosophy.

My point is; if you whig out and kill someone, then you should should be locked the fuck up. Ignore the causality, because it doesn't matter in my book. Just like hate crimes. A murder sentence should not be harsher because of motive, murder is murder... for whatever reason.


Making a drug legal is not going to attract a huge new market. The people that are interested in LSD use it now despite laws, and would continue to after legalization. Erradicating the prohibition would not set the world on fire.

seamonster66
11-17-2006, 11:14 PM
no way should it

maybe the penalty sshouldn't be what it is, I agree with that, but legalizing it no

branflakes
11-17-2006, 11:39 PM
The quote I was using is in black and white. Do what you want as long as you are not hurting anyone else. It's a very simple philosophy.

My point is; if you whig out and kill someone, then you should should be locked the fuck up. Ignore the causality, because it doesn't matter in my book. Just like hate crimes. A murder sentence should not be harsher because of motive, murder is murder... for whatever reason.


Making a drug legal is not going to attract a huge new market. The people that are interested in LSD use it now despite laws, and would continue to after legalization. Erradicating the prohibition would not set the world on fire.Okay, that's what I thought you meant. However.. I'm pretty sure the government (with good reason) doesn't think that people can make responsible decisions when their minds are blurred by a drug such as LSD. Therefore, you can't lay responsibility to the user, because they will be intoxicated.

kidsmoke
11-18-2006, 12:02 AM
Okay, that's what I thought you meant. However.. I'm pretty sure the government (with good reason) doesn't think that people can make responsible decisions when their minds are blurred by a drug such as LSD. Therefore, you can't lay responsibility to the user, because they will be intoxicated.

Consider the ultimate inhibition lowering drug; alcohol. Legal and thriving because the government makes a fortune on it, and it stupefies the masses. Do you think the lawmakers believe people will make reasonable desicions on alcohol? A dumbed down, fearful society is more maleable. Why would they want to unleash a beast like LSD into the wild?

branflakes
11-18-2006, 01:46 AM
Consider the ultimate inhibition lowering drug; alcohol. Legal and thriving because the government makes a fortune on it, and it stupefies the masses. Do you think the lawmakers believe people will make reasonable desicions on alcohol? A dumbed down, fearful society is more maleable. Why would they want to unleash a beast like LSD into the wild?Cynical, yet true.

shine_crazydiamond
11-29-2006, 07:18 PM
well, it can be obtained pretty easily...but i agree with the whole drug abusing thing. like, if it became legal there would be a whole fleet of people always trying to tell people how bad it is. but there would also be lots to tell you how good it is.but if it were legal...we'd have to pay taxes on it...so...that would suck

ippi
12-21-2006, 09:17 PM
Every drug must be legalized....
Because.
1. They are FUN
2. It's FREEDOM
3. 80 % of dangerous what is coming from drugs would not be anymore...

(my spelling can be weird,,,)

PurpleGel
12-22-2006, 11:38 PM
it's not yet time to legalize LSD. wait a while longer. be patient, it will happen, i think.

woodsman
12-23-2006, 09:19 AM
And what would be the advantage of waiting?

drumminmama
12-25-2006, 12:47 PM
I believe in cognitive liberty.
Utterly.
I live in the US and am a First Amendment absolutist. "Congress shall make NO law..."
I think that to have freedom of speech, you MUST have freedom of thought.
(the only limitation I would make as benign dictator of the world is to require thought before speech har har)
Though I'm on an extended break from chems, in my time I have seen a LOT of LSD from blotter to vials of silver.
It is an experience with my brain chemistry, and while I'd not call them bad trips they certainly were not great either. Learning Experiences are not always moolight and roses.
an outside observer would say I flipped out (all balled up, mumbling a lot, striking out at attempts to move me, I was told) and a less experienced babysitter might have taken me to a hospital.

So, is my external experience the anecdote one bases a law upon? or internal?
That heroic dose saved me a year at a shrink.

what it comes down to is gov't is not a nanny, and should get back to the business of protecting civil rights.
enforcing and creating laws to LIMIT the First Amendment is out of line.

hebrewnational00
12-26-2006, 02:04 AM
i dont think all drugs should b leagal.
a list of drugs which should b illegal inmy opinion is ketamin, heroin, coke, crack, crystal meth.

but L should b leagal:) so should weed, shrooms

kidsmoke
12-26-2006, 02:10 AM
"It's not a war on drugs, it's a war on personal freedom."

hebrewnational00
12-26-2006, 04:23 PM
TRUE TRUE!~!!! omg i agreewith that 110% ^^^^ kidsmoke right onnn

PsyGrunge
02-26-2007, 12:57 PM
Every drug must be legalized....
Because.
1. They are FUN
2. It's FREEDOM
3. 80 % of dangerous what is coming from drugs would not be anymore...

(my spelling can be weird,,,)...and you'd know because you've tried every drug?
I smell bullshit on your part straight away. Not ALL drugs are fun - that's just the myth.
I'm sure if you went through a bad shroom trip you wouldn't be saying that. Fun it definitely ain't, there's a high chance that you'll worry that conciously, you're stuck in this frame of mind for an eternity. I'd hardly call this 'freedom' either.
As for number 3, what? If you're saying what I think you're saying then you're talking complete shit. Of course the dangers are still gonna be there. Maybe the legalities will be no longer present, but of course the dangers will be exactly the same. You shoot up over 5 mg of Heroin in one go and you'd still be as fucked as you would of been before the legalisation.

I'm sorry but those 3 reasons were the worst I've ever read. Looked like the reasons that a drug abuser would give as opposed to someone who uses drugs to benefit them some way or other.

Eugene
02-26-2007, 01:28 PM
^^^ actually just about all the negative effects associated with herion are indirect effects stemming from it's black market status...

neways, i voted no.
Lsd shouldn't be legal.


it should be mandatory.


they should randomly spike the drinking water with it and everyone in town has to get around via bicycyle for that day...

just my idea of a perfect society.

hebrewnational00
02-26-2007, 10:23 PM
not all drugs are fun, even weed could get not fun at times, u get overly paranoid etc, i usually have fun with drugs such as shrooms and weed, havent tried n e thing else, but these two drugs are looked upon as "beginnner"" drugs, like if u were to smoke weed like a lot of ppl do the next step a lot of ppl would say is shrooms, (u dont have to agree with on this)...

now with weed and shrooms, two "safe" drugs (safe enough at least), the effects could b fun and amazing to many, but theres many that experiance the negative effects of both. so no 100% NO! not all drugs are FUN, one drug might b fun to you, but not to another person, plus if u were to take drugs, i wouldnt advice ABUSING it, i try to benefit from it, and maybe learn from it?!, but other than that its like a getaway, its something to do, and its fun ((((AT TIMES)))

Posthumous
02-27-2007, 06:07 AM
Only for me, and I'll distribute it as I see fit. http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

sourdiesel06
03-01-2007, 10:35 PM
No, there are far too many people who are too stupid to trip responsibly. Just because acid has no undesirable physical affect on the body doesn't mean it isn't dangerous. Overuse of acid is probably the worst thing you could do mentally (see Syd Barrett). I do however think that they should start doing experiments with LSD again.

High Times
03-02-2007, 08:33 AM
Most of the people I know think that psychedelic drugs should be legal. LSD, Mescaline, MDMA, and cannabis should be legal. All of the reports on people comitting suicide while under the influence of LSD are not true. Except for two cases where the people comitted suicide because they were extremely depressed.

Look at how many people aren't badly depressed but than they start drinking and end up commiting suicide. Look at how many people smoking kills in a year.
I do not think that Crack, Cocaine, Crystal Meth, Heroin, or Ether should be legal though. I would be ecstatic if LSD was legalized. Maybe one day... I hope.

Remember "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Dr. Johnson

Peace

Justin I.

sublimegrl
03-05-2007, 07:15 AM
well i think thatd be wonderful ... then my friend randy wouldnt be sittin in jail.

i mean attempted manslaughter for sellin acid to some1? a 21 yr old kid facing 20 ? for sellin some acid to a fuckin narch?

PsyGrunge
03-13-2007, 03:10 PM
The theory of tripping with LSD is dramatised and exaggerated to fuck, in all fairness.

mondoglove
03-16-2007, 07:43 AM
i say yes, it should be legal.

however, this would have to be in tandem with a comprehensive educational program that would present only the realties, no fear tactics. show people honestly what the positive and negative effects can be, let them make up their own minds. organize facilities where people can 'check in' and trip safely. the argument that "too many people can't handle the lsd experience" fails to accomodate those millions of users who can handle it, and quite enjoy doing so. in the big picture: encourage a culture where mind expansion is considered healthy.

of course this will never happen (with our current system) because the psychedelic experience so often causes people to question authority, which is simply not in the interests of the state. thankfully the black market supply is pretty steady, though i find it dissapointing that many people fail to use this tool for its correct purpose. if you want to get wasted, there are alternatives. if you care to re-evaluate the nature of your existence and do a little clearing out of the cobwebs, take a trip.



if-you-play-this-game-you-won't-stay-the-same...

PsyGrunge
03-28-2007, 12:26 AM
I read the first paragraph and was ready to reply with everything you wrote in the second paragraph before actually reading it; good job I did!
Very true.

desert nightmare
03-28-2007, 12:39 AM
Not just authority but life period. When i'm tripping i try to use all of my minds creative energy toward the senses instead of cognition. If you let it, it will make you think about things like a motha fucka. And sometimes you get to a point in realization that may depress you. Shit i can't even bare to think about without feeling a little depressed or nervous. For me these issues generally dwell in the area of how we came to be, and that religious well i'm not going to get into that. I wish my mind would let me be just a little bit more ignorant toward certain things because to much awareness isn't a good thing, at all!

Hobes
03-29-2007, 08:55 PM
.
People arent stupid .you do not know too much about the human do you.

it should not be legalised but for some ppl it is ok. and their test of how mutch they want to try it is in the fact that it is illegal. this should not be for every drug but this one yes. what we need to do instead is change the attuade to the one in other countries where all drugs are illegal but some are tallerated (weed) and some not (lsd) and have that inculded in the hard drugs cateorie (i know lsd is not but CAN be mutch mutch worse for you if you are not careful)

this is what think i should hapen anyway:cheers:

desert nightmare
03-29-2007, 10:46 PM
Mutch? you sure you don't mean much?

Hobes
04-04-2007, 10:03 AM
fixed. sorry but if there is one thing i cant do in life it is spell

PsyGrunge
04-04-2007, 06:37 PM
you do not know too much about the human do you.

it should not be legalised but for some ppl it is ok. and there test of how mutch they want to try it is in the fact that it is illegal. this should not be for every drug but this one yes. what we need to do instead is change the attuade to the one in other countries where all drugs are illegal but some are tallerated (weed) and some not (lsd) and have that inculded in the hard drugs cateorie (i know lsd is not but CAN be mutch mutch worse for you if you are not careful)

this is what i should hapen anyway:cheers:Dude, no offence but you really can't spell for shit.
And as for the grammar in these 2 sentences;
''and there test of how mutch they want to try it is in the fact that it is illegal.''
and
'' this is what i should hapen anyway:cheers:''
:- they don't even make sense man.

And that's aside from the fact that Acid is a Class A substance (the category of ''hard drugs'').

Blithe
04-05-2007, 05:54 AM
in a way yes, in a way no.
lsd is easy to get, it's no hassle.
mostly cool people drop acid.
lame people doing it would be...lame.


... but for weed:
now. now is definitely the time.

Hobes
04-06-2007, 12:31 AM
i rushed through that one. they are not normally that bad sorry

i am a member now yay

PsyGrunge
04-06-2007, 11:23 AM
lol welcome to your new title :P

darkain
05-02-2007, 11:11 PM
Legalization, marketing, distributing of Marijuana, and Heroin centers (free for addicts) should be done before LSD.

kidsmoke
05-03-2007, 12:10 AM
eh, lets just do it all at once.

markoriet
06-06-2007, 01:13 AM
I think people should be fourced to :party:take LSD man... :):)

markoriet
06-06-2007, 01:14 AM
yea man, yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Ayzcrava
06-06-2007, 10:55 AM
The only problem with legalizing I could think of is that they'll tax it and the price goes up, its rediculously cheap right now, and usually its pretty clean too, atleast if you get it on blotter paper, and easily enough available. But.. i'd like it legal, just with a warning that people with psychosis should be careful, or people that hate themselves, and the rest can enjoy it.

Bevertje
06-06-2007, 12:18 PM
Hell yeah,

Legalise everything and use the money they win (police/rehab/...) to inform the people about drugs... and build drug centers where people can explore their inner self with a educated guide.

As long as drugs are not allowed, people who want to experiment have no choice but going to search them in criminal environments...

And everyone will have to admit: drugs are not forbidden because they are dangerous... drugs are forbidden because it makes people think about life, because they would drop out of the society in which the elite has total power over the others... drugs are forbidden because of racist laws (cannabis & opium)... drugs are forbidden because of economics (cannabis has the best fibers known to man) ... So drugs are dangerous... dangerous for the governments...

I do admit that there are people who misuse drugs, but that is more of a personal problem, most of the time those people don't know how to cope with society (who can blame them? society sucks big time) and they use drugs to flee from it... Make the world a nice place to live where not power and money, but love and sharing are the keywords and 99% of all the shit in the world can be solved in a couple of weeks time...

FreekoutMcGee
06-06-2007, 09:10 PM
man fuck no!!!!!!!!




do you know how many crazy people are out there? a fucking lot!!!! not all people have the same "love everyone" mentality that 'hippies' have. if we were to make if legal, so many people would be out of their minds that shouldnt be on. it would be really great if they made it legal for physco-theorpy. but thats just me and my opinion.

Bevertje
06-07-2007, 11:18 AM
man fuck no!!!!!!!!
do you know how many crazy people are out there? a fucking lot!!!! not all people have the same "love everyone" mentality that 'hippies' have. if we were to make if legal, so many people would be out of their minds that shouldnt be on. it would be really great if they made it legal for physco-theorpy. but thats just me and my opinion.
Yea, I know there are crazy people, but they get crazy because they can't cope with the world around them... So I guess it's not that simple as legalise everthing... It a global thing... Everything has to change... Power to the people... haha, this sounds a bit déja-vu :-)

lifelovefun
06-07-2007, 05:57 PM
Where's my option to choose "Fuck YES!!!!!!" lol :) Yea it's time to legalize all drugs and usher in an infinite era of peace, love, and acceptance.

Of course if the governments of the world do this, than their "leaders" in power will be powerless the day they put this into practice lol.

FreekoutMcGee
06-07-2007, 06:31 PM
i believe that if the governments made it legal they would brain wash us all under the influence of lsd. it would be so easy. man i'm so paranoid!

Fallout55
06-07-2007, 08:01 PM
Yeah, also time to give MDMA out in perscriptions, or at least use it in therapy.
Also legalize weed!

Four Winds
06-08-2007, 12:49 AM
It is ridiculous to say some people can and some people can't. I agree that a lot of people couldn't handle LSD, but that is only for individuals to decide.
Yeah, until some THINKS they can handle it, and totally cannot and ends up killing themself or something.

LSD should NOT be legalized. I mean, its out there right now, if you want it, go get it. The reprecussions of legalized LSD would likely be felt by everyone very quickly, and the government would likely realize they'd have to repeal the legalization.

And, come on people... all drugs should be legalized? That is a BAD idea. I mean, think whats gonna happen to society when crack, heroin, meth, PCP etc are legalized. Society would decline at such a rapid rate, there would be mass violence, few intelligent individuals, crime would increase, and the overall quality of life would be greatly reduced.

Anybody who says legalize all drugs is foolish, and has no concept of what that would do to society. Trust me, (most) drugs are not good things.

FreekoutMcGee
06-08-2007, 05:57 PM
Yeah, until some THINKS they can handle it, and totally cannot and ends up killing themself or something.

LSD should NOT be legalized. I mean, its out there right now, if you want it, go get it. The reprecussions of legalized LSD would likely be felt by everyone very quickly, and the government would likely realize they'd have to repeal the legalization.

And, come on people... all drugs should be legalized? That is a BAD idea. I mean, think whats gonna happen to society when crack, heroin, meth, PCP etc are legalized. Society would decline at such a rapid rate, there would be mass violence, few intelligent individuals, crime would increase, and the overall quality of life would be greatly reduced.

Anybody who says legalize all drugs is foolish, and has no concept of what that would do to society. Trust me, (most) drugs are not good things.





hey, lsd doesnt make people kill themselves.....thier own minds do that shit dont blame a drug for whats already in peoples minds. but there are all kinds of people on anti-physcotics that would take lsd and it wouldnt affect them anyway...so i changed my mind, free LSD FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SamSam
06-08-2007, 06:40 PM
hey, lsd doesnt make people kill themselves.....thier own minds do that shit dont blame a drug for whats already in peoples minds.

Okay, that's false.

FreekoutMcGee
06-08-2007, 11:17 PM
no really man...lsd just brings things that are in your mind out...it really will, it all has to do with the person and what he has been thinking over how ever many years young he/she is.

Four Winds
06-08-2007, 11:35 PM
hey, lsd doesnt make people kill themselves.....thier own minds do that shit dont blame a drug for whats already in peoples minds. but there are all kinds of people on anti-physcotics that would take lsd and it wouldnt affect them anyway...so i changed my mind, free LSD FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If something is in a persons mind, and a drug brings it out to an extent where the individual actually carries out that something, the drug is at fault, yes.

Free LSD for everyone, yeah, thats fuckin genius buddy.:stunned:

FreekoutMcGee
06-08-2007, 11:36 PM
dood do you have an imagination? at all? seriously....? of course lsd is never going to be legalized. just the thought.

Fallout55
06-09-2007, 10:01 AM
Okay, that's false.No it's not in the least. LSD adds nothing, your life is the tripp the acid is the medium. Acid ads no thoughts or experiances, jsut expands and show you whats there in a new light.

Explore Liberty
06-09-2007, 08:36 PM
edited.

Explore Liberty
06-09-2007, 11:30 PM
edited.

praying4peace
06-09-2007, 11:34 PM
I think that with any drug like lsd, mushies, pot.... it should be a humans decision what the put inside their body. its all part of human rights.
legalise it!
peace

Explore Liberty
06-10-2007, 12:09 AM
edited.

Explore Liberty
06-10-2007, 02:50 AM
edited.

Geneity
06-13-2007, 03:11 AM
Honestly I think there are way too many stupid people to legalize something like LSD.

People would be all "OMFG A NEW DRUG, LETS TAKE A SHITLOAD AND GO PARTY". You can see where that's going to go. Acid is an amazing drug when used right or in a good environment, but I shudder to think what people would do when LSD is legal.

I'd love it to be legal, but it's just not feasable.

PsyGrunge
06-25-2007, 01:14 AM
^ I agree. If it gets easily accessible, who knows what kind of hands its going to end up in? It would also speak wonders for society.

in da snake
07-01-2007, 08:20 AM
I say no..not enough people respect it. If kids are using it in school then it's not getting any respect at all...but i think that the charges and fines should be lessened...but then agian if you are using it right and respecting it no one should know that you have used lsd unless you tell them.

hellixxx
07-17-2007, 07:06 AM
i think all drugs should be legal.
it's all about personal choice, instead of just trying to cover things up like that. people should be educated to the point where they can make a smart choice on their own.

i mean, fast food is legal.. most people only eat it now and again, but you have other people who 'abuse' it.. they eat it all the time and are most likely unhealthy, or definitely will be eventually..
cigs are legal, and all they seem to do is tax the shit out of them.. if someone wants to smoke, they will. if someone wants to take a drug, they will. so they might as well legalize and educate, instead of making it a criminal offense..

marksup123
07-29-2007, 07:38 AM
You pay taxes to your government. You should be able to control what goes into your body. Everything should be legal, it's not the governments job to tell a person what is and isn't for them.

>.>
<.<

Next we should do away with the speed limits. But that's another topic for another day.

-_-HitMan-_-
07-31-2007, 06:33 AM
They haven't even legalized marijuana, there is no way they would legalize LSD.

marksup123
07-31-2007, 06:06 PM
Marijuana was never legal. LSD was not only legal, but also used by the government as a "truth serum" back in the 50's. They realized it was too much fun and put a ban on it.

Geneity
08-02-2007, 10:37 PM
Marijuana was legal until 1937. I'm not sure when it was first introduced over here, but it used to be available in grocery stores and in bars.

Ayzcrava
10-23-2007, 09:58 PM
I'm not sure if it should be legal. I can easily enough get it and I'm not sure if a lot of people out there are ready for it. Now you have to search first, and during your search you can learn a lot about it so that you're well prepared when you finally get your LSD. Thats quite a good thing in a way. On the other hand.. I'd say legalize all drugs, because I'm for choise what you put in your body; no one should decide that for you.

astaff
10-23-2007, 10:54 PM
if lsd were legal the suicide rate would shoot threw the roof. to many little kids wold be all for it and most ppl arn't even ready for it. bad idea. could you just see a world leader on lsd? pariniod then sets off a bomb omg... would make for an intresting cartoon show.

ohdear1492
10-26-2007, 12:10 AM
All drugs should be legal.

Shocbomb
11-20-2007, 07:39 PM
No Way I would rather see Crack and Herion legal then LSD its just way to dangerous ! To many young kids who are not ready for a trip would be taking the shit and fliping out alot more then it happens now.People with mental disorders would have easier Access to the drug. I don't know about you But I would not want Schizophrenic or a Sociopath walking around the streets of my town high on LSD No fucking WAY !!! Astaff is right the suicide rate would skyrocket and I bet the murder rate would also. I never want to see the day when a 12 year old kid is waiting outside a corner store like they do now for Cigs and Beer asking people over 18 or 21 to buy them a 5 strip of Hits ! Society and mankind would be alot worse off then it is now if LSD was legal and anyone could get there hands on it.

hippy i am
11-21-2007, 08:26 PM
Well, I can't get LSD here anymore, so I voted yes! I miss it very much.

evil i 13
12-03-2007, 01:03 AM
If you legalize LSD the first people to run out to get some would inevitably be the biggest idiots in the psychedelic drug scene. The kind of people who don't know a crystal from a microdot and are unhinged to begin with. I've seen idiots like that get a whole lot raided on like 5 hits. Then the first people to distribute it on a large scale would be too greedy to care if there are maniacs roaming the streets with drug induced homicidal tendencies. It would be an open invite for people like Charles Manson to rape young minds. LSD is way too out there. We'd be better off legalizing Heroin.

J.C
12-04-2007, 05:25 AM
I belive the government has no busness to take that stuff away in the first place. I don't see any reason that is valid as a reason to illegalize drugs in general, in fact death rates related to drugs have sky rocketed sence it was made illegal....

J.C

Whiskers123
12-04-2007, 10:39 PM
No Way I would rather see Crack and Herion legal then LSD its just way to dangerous ! To many young kids who are not ready for a trip would be taking the shit and fliping out alot more then it happens now.People with mental disorders would have easier Access to the drug. I don't know about you But I would not want Schizophrenic or a Sociopath walking around the streets of my town high on LSD No fucking WAY !!! Astaff is right the suicide rate would skyrocket and I bet the murder rate would also. I never want to see the day when a 12 year old kid is waiting outside a corner store like they do now for Cigs and Beer asking people over 18 or 21 to buy them a 5 strip of Hits ! Society and mankind would be alot worse off then it is now if LSD was legal and anyone could get there hands on it.Have you done LSD and do you understand its effects?

Also Marijuana is illigal... and is 100x easier to get when your in highschool than alcohol.

I think it should be legalized but not just instantly legal with no restrictions. I believe it should be first legalized for medical purposes including cluster headaches, alcoholism, drug addiction, criminal rehabilitation, and what ever else they can find it to be useful before. Some of the things LSD can do in a therapeutic setting is amazing.

After that it should be be opened up for religious reasons. Have it so it is only legal to do LSD in certain places with a licensed guide who is experienced. Atleast for your first couple trips. I wouldent have to be turned into a religious session but I think LSD is similar to a religious experience even for those who do not believe in God. I think this is similar to what Albert Hoffman in visions.

Am I just crazy? :p I am afraid straight out legalization would cause LSD to get a negative view due to people being stupid as they are and doing stupid things on LSD (and even though people do way more stupid things on Alcohol it would make headline news anyway).

highflyer
12-05-2007, 04:06 AM
I would like for the punishment to be lessend

KnCC
12-18-2007, 01:49 PM
Acid makes me crazy sometimes))

XBloodyNailPolishX
12-20-2007, 07:12 AM
As a fellow Libertarian I totally agree drugs, ALL drugs, need to be legalized. If people chose to use, its their choice.

WanderingSoul
12-22-2007, 09:23 PM
Kucinich will decriminalize marijuana.

maddhatter
12-22-2007, 09:36 PM
definatly legalize it, but don't give it freely away to the public. it should be just like back in the 1960s at school campuses where it was availalbe for research reasons.

XBloodyNailPolishX
12-23-2007, 04:51 AM
Kucinich will decriminalize marijuana.thats one of the reasons I'm voting for him. Ron Paul isn't everything everyone thinks... he's not the best candidate in my opinion, Gravel and Kucinich are.

Shocbomb
12-23-2007, 09:09 PM
Yeah good idea the last thing I want is 13 year old kids and people with bad mental problems walking into my local corner store buying a 5 strip of hits !!!!!! please the shit should be illegal and will always stay that way. I would rather see Herion/Crack and Meth legal before LSD !!!!!!

XBloodyNailPolishX
12-24-2007, 12:33 AM
so because there are some irresponsible people out there we should ruin it for everybody???
Besides, mental problems do not neccesarily make someone "crazy". Obviously you still believe in that old stereotype.

Shocbomb
12-24-2007, 07:27 AM
So you think that little kids should be able to weight outside a 7-11 like they do now for Beer and Cigs and be able to have someone buy they a 10 strip of hits. Or a psychopath or a violent nut who hears voices who just got out of the local mental hospital should be able to walk into Mr.Joes mini mart and buy some hits. No fucking Way. Hey I love LSd but I have seen alot of fucked up things happen to people on it. I had to stop stupid ass people who were triping bad more then a few times in my day from doing dangerous things to themselfs and others. I saw so many people freak out who should of not been taking the shit in the first place. Some people are just not made for psychedelic drugs bottom line.I have seen that more then enuff in my days of using them.If it were legal we would see that so much more it would be a common thing.People who should not be eating Cid would be freaking the fuck out so much more in society. Little kids would think its like pot or beer and use it all the time.The last bad trip I saw totaly sumed this up to me that all psychedelic drugs should never be made legal. It was about 5 years ago.This kid who I knew a little bit took LSD his first time And I knew before hand this kid should of not taken it. I could just tell but the way he was and acted before the trip. I was so mad at myself becasue I knew right off bat this was going to suck and I should of not put myself in a situation like this I was always good about stuff like that when tripping. Well as soon as it hit him we all would be in for a ride and little did any one know a dangerous one.That night was total hell, At first I thought it would be a normal bad trip. But it ws not He was freaking the fuck out for hours and not like most people do on a bad trip ,I am use to that from all my years of tripping but this kid scared the shit out of me. He was talking about killing people. how he hated evey one. and other morbid stuff. He started to freak more and more buy the second. I will never forget when he took his camping knife out and started to cut himself deep on his arms and legs it was so messed up. We tried to stop him and he held the knife on us. We tried to talk to him and help him and tell him it was only a drug but he was making no sence at and just getting worse. I will never forget that evil face he had looking at the fire like we wanted to kill every one there after he sat down. I knew right them he was a danger to himself and to others.I wanted bum rush the kid with evey one and tie him up until the trip wore off after that shit happend but every one said no I called over and told. So I knew enuff to leave I was gone so fast with my friends and went to another camp sight far away becasue I knew this was only going to get alot worse and could get real ugly with him when that LSD hit him full forse and he started to peak.Looking back now I should of called the cops I was real stupid not to.If someone got hurt real bad I would of felt so dam guilty. Anyways it did get alot worse after we left with the kids who stayed behind with him.I guess from what I heard he was buring the shit out of his hand in the fire and throwing evey ones stuff in it also and then he trid setting the woods on fire.I guess that was enuff they all tried stoping him and he got real violent a few people got hurt. He stabbed one kid 2 times in the leg not that bad but it took about 40 stitches to close the 2 wounds, another one got hit in the head with a big ass rock,and he tried throwing another one in the fire. He ran away from the camp sight and later that night the cops found him in town when he broke into someones house he thought was his grandmothers he said to the police but it was not. He attacked the cops who were first on the scene with a baseball bat from the house he was in they had to use a stun gun and mace to get him under control. He is so lucky he did not get shot that night ? The cops said he was cut so bad from walking threw the plate glass window to brake into the house and from cutting himself even more and deeper after he left the camp sight. anyways he went to a mental hospital for 90 days and did a year in county jail for that shit. It just shows you what can happen when LSD is taken but the wrong person who is not ment to trip or falls into the rong hands. If it were legal we would see a hell of alot more of that shit.Crazy ass shit someone could of got hurt real bad that night or even died becasue of his bad trip. I slaways think what would of happend if the family was home of the house he broke into thank GOD for that !!!!!!!!!! Man I love LSD so dam much but I jsut don't think it should ever be legal its to dangerous.

natebozung535
12-24-2007, 06:47 PM
I think it should be legal because having it illegal is just punishing those who have self control.

I mean I've never seen cid in my town, nor have I known anyone who has. I can handle my pyschedelics, boomers, lsa, I would just like to try the next level you know?

JnH
01-18-2008, 01:08 AM
I think it should be legalized, like so many ppl said, the gvnt dont have rights to not let us do it cuz some ppl can handle the psychedelic stuff.

n iv read sum rlly gud stuff about how ppl who take lsd becum peaceful n stuff n theyr not so materialistic nymore n want simple lives. this leads to big companies breaking down cuz less ppl care about making loads of money, and alternatively leads to gvnt loosing power, ppl with simple lives but everyones happy! i think i explained dat badly, but once i find the name of that site where i saw it, ill post it up.
oh but i think marijuana shud be legalized too, why the fuck is it illegal nyway?!

btw i live in tokyo japan, n i cant find lsd since beginning of last year. ppl here are getting desperate, why dont they sell it more here!!!

chugtonio
01-19-2008, 10:34 PM
I Think they should be somewhat legal
Like you need a permit or something; people with mood disorders and stuff (bipolar) should really stay away from these

I don't know
Really I could care less because its not too hard to get acid or shrooms and its not as common so less chance of getting caught for urine tests and crap

Maybe leave it illegal but have fines lowered

sm0key42o8
01-19-2008, 10:43 PM
I remember reading a study from the 60s about test using LSD to treat alcoholics and it had over a 60% success rate

chugtonio
01-20-2008, 05:38 AM
How does that work?
You can only do acid like avg once every 2 weeks to a month
Or is it like their acid trip was life changing and after one time they found the strength to quit...?

hellixxx
01-28-2008, 02:19 AM
many psychedelics can be used to treat people with addictions. ibogaine is quite promising as well, there is a place in vancouver where people can legally go trip on iboga. quite a few addicts have been treated there, and others who just want a spiritual journey.

highflyer
01-28-2008, 04:53 PM
I had to write a research paper on LSD last semester. I dont think it should be legalized for public recreational use nor should the charges be as harsh as they are now unless someone intentionally tampered with someones intake, intentionally inducing trip on someone. Ever since I wrote my paper about it, I have been interested in it and trying to find it. It doesnt seem to exist in the mid-south U.S. anymore. I have been self experimenting with nootropics that Albert Hofmann designed like hydergine in high doses and have noticed a considerable larger ability to concentrate.

Anyone have any ideas of what the future of LSD will be? Hard to make unless yur a well educated chemist, and most chemist that have this ability would probably feel moraly obligated to not create this drug unless their job demanded it for the better of society which is doubtful to happen.
Do you mean ALD-52?

Meretrix
02-01-2008, 09:28 AM
Do whatever the f*ck you want with your body.

XBloodyNailPolishX
02-01-2008, 04:37 PM
exactly; its our bodies, period. That's the end of it. Its not the fact that the government is concerned for our safety; if it were, it would be outlawing alcohol too... its that these kind of "drugs" expand the mind and make you think. The government doesn't want that. That's why in 2009 they're outlawing/regulating vitamins. sheep are much easier to control if they're weak and stupid.

Meretrix
02-01-2008, 11:54 PM
I believe that one main reason they don't let us do what we want with OUR bodies is because it does not fit in with the 'American Dream.' People do not want to change what has been going on for centuries now, because people are afraid of change. People do not like indivuals going against the conformist crowds. Group mentality rules America, and the group that everyone is following is are traditionalists who couldn't handle the sudden changes. Most of this makes sense in my own head, but I know that I am not the best at describing things. Hope peeps understand what I am talking about..

XBloodyNailPolishX
02-02-2008, 04:07 PM
I completely understand and agree with you. The government wants to keep us all as stupid little sheep. Its looked down upon if you're different because different is bad.... different means free thought. And the government can't stand for people to think for themselves.

stev90
02-02-2008, 04:26 PM
Attempts were made during the 60's led by Timothy Leary and a group of Harvard professors and scientists to study LSD and see what benefits can be derived from it.


Unfortunately, the prudes at Harvard at that time and the establishment ever since weren't comfortable with the idea, which in my opinion is a stupid attitude and archaic way to deal with the issue. Instead of embracing Timothy Leary's efforts, he was banished and practically went underground.

Professor Leary and his group should have been given leeway and practiced their professional expertise in studying this drug and it's effects.

Meretrix
02-03-2008, 08:04 PM
Yeah, until some THINKS they can handle it, and totally cannot and ends up killing themself or something.

LSD should NOT be legalized. I mean, its out there right now, if you want it, go get it. The reprecussions of legalized LSD would likely be felt by everyone very quickly, and the government would likely realize they'd have to repeal the legalization.

And, come on people... all drugs should be legalized? That is a BAD idea. I mean, think whats gonna happen to society when crack, heroin, meth, PCP etc are legalized. Society would decline at such a rapid rate, there would be mass violence, few intelligent individuals, crime would increase, and the overall quality of life would be greatly reduced.

Anybody who says legalize all drugs is foolish, and has no concept of what that would do to society. Trust me, (most) drugs are not good things.Legalizing drugs is not foolish at all. If you legalize meth, heroin, and PCP, do you really think everyone is going to do it? There would be more things saying it is bad that tobacco, I would be sure of it. And as for things such as LSD and mushrooms, new businesses of controlled environments could start where you could have people watch over you.

There is always ways to put things down for some reasons, but there is always other ways you can help make it work. As for the people that would do the heroin and shoot up anything, man, that's survival of the fittest; weed out the bad ones.

gib_0101
02-04-2008, 05:16 AM
I say legalize it.

Meretrix
02-05-2008, 07:03 AM
What I think it still basically goes down to is, it is our bodies, we should be able to do what we want with them. Who is the government to say what we can and can't do with ourselves?

sb9889
03-16-2008, 11:42 PM
LSD has helped me, (and many others im sure) to discover more about myself, and about the world.. i believe i have become a better person.. i realize now how important it is to preserve nature, and not to litter.. i have learned just how important it is to be truthful.. LSD is a powerful tool, and i think it should be legalised, but with an age restriction. perhaps if the governments took LSD, they too would realise the importance of telling the truth, instead of using scare tactics and false information to deter people from using drugs such as LSD. lying to the public just causes people to lose trust in the government, and i think once people realise that LSD is not as harmful as the government claim, they will think that theyv been lying about effects of other drugs too.. legalise it, tell the truth about it, put an age limit on it (like alcohol)...

to those of you who say that suicide rates will go up by a tremendous amount, that will simply not happen.. usually the reported numbers of people jumping off roofs and stuff on acid is ridiculously exaggerated.. i admit thers been a few cases but then alcohol should be illegal on the same grounds, so many commit suicide from alcohol abuse, not to mention overdose... doesnt make sense to not legalise it for that reason, when alcohol is far more efficient at killing people..

i doubt that the use of LSD would increase dramatically from legalization (to those who think it would).. the percentage of marijuana smokers in america (where its illegal) is pretty much the same as in holland (where its illegal) though usage would probably increase somewhat..

my only concern with legalizing LSD would be people developing mental conditions, which does happen unfortunately (to a very small percentage).. usually to people whos families have histories of mental illness.. so people should be properly educated about this, and maybe warnings should be printed on the packets of LSD.. im not sayin this would solve the problem completely but it would definetely help..

woa that was long, but i jst wanted to get all that out..

peace

somenerdyfreak
03-20-2008, 03:55 AM
everyone here will say yes, and so will i. it ahs so many medical uses, and tripping makes me more sane than not tripping. but, since ron paul is basically done, that wont happen, at least for another 4 years :(

woodsman
04-04-2008, 06:33 AM
What I think it still basically goes down to is, it is our bodies, we should be able to do what we want with them. Who is the government to say what we can and can't do with ourselves?
I agree.

.Xen.
04-09-2008, 07:37 PM
i have a slightly different view on why i think ALL drugs should be legalised... Natural selection. there are so many STUPID people in the world. i dont mean to be crude but natural selection was here for A REASON! now all the stupid people are breeding b/c humanity thinks we need to save everyone from there own mistakes. if you intentionally do something stupid enough to kill you then i think you should die. "you! out of the gene pool!" has anyone seen ideocracy? lol.
its prolly my most crude ideal but i really hate how dumb the world is getting. what happened to higher standards? what happened to being better people?
if stupid people do lots of drugs and screw them selves up then thats there prerogative.. its like people that drink them selves till there brains are pickled. ITS JUST STUPID.
*sigh*
oh well.

.Xen.
04-09-2008, 07:38 PM
age limits are good tho. lol

children usally arent stupid.. just young..

.leapfrog.
04-24-2008, 10:51 PM
Yeah, also time to give MDMA out in perscriptions, or at least use it in therapy.
Also legalize weed!mdma was given out in prescriptions in the 80's. and it's still used to treat ptsd.

.leapfrog.
04-24-2008, 11:02 PM
The only problem with legalizing I could think of is that they'll tax it and the price goes up, its rediculously cheap right now, and usually its pretty clean too, atleast if you get it on blotter paper, and easily enough available. But.. i'd like it legal, just with a warning that people with psychosis should be careful, or people that hate themselves, and the rest can enjoy it.all blotter is is a carrying medium for a liquid suspension of lsd. just because it's on blotter paper doesn't mean it's any cleaner than something you would find in a dropper bottle. window panes, gel tabs, and microdots are the purest forms of lsd. other than having it directly out of the chem lab.

shaky jake
04-25-2008, 04:27 AM
they cant afford to legalize lsd man

NewDeadHead
04-30-2008, 02:17 AM
I don't think drugs should be legal.

Marijuana should be.

Heroin and coke should always be illegal.

Drugs like LSD and Shrooms that arent addictive should be illegal but much much much less serious offenses. Maybe the offence should be similar to marijuana. If it was illegal with a tiny sentence it would keep most of the public away from it so society wouldn't go insane, but recreational use could increase and it wouldn't ruin anyone lives. I think it's ridiculous how much trouble you can get into for having a lil LSD on you.

.Xen.
04-30-2008, 11:53 PM
^^^ actually just about all the negative effects associated with herion are indirect effects stemming from it's black market status...

neways, i voted no.
Lsd shouldn't be legal.


it should be mandatory.


they should randomly spike the drinking water with it and everyone in town has to get around via bicycyle for that day...

just my idea of a perfect society.
<3 i was thinking the other day about Micro-dosing with like 20 to 50 ugs of LSD on Ecstasy, basicly making ur own press of MDMA and vitamin c, with a micro dose and mass distributing them at raves.

it wouldnt be enough for you to feel it but you still may get some of the benificial qualites of the LSD...

its slightly infringing and probably not good for ones karma but it would prolly help straighten out a lot of the ravers. lol.

mephist00
05-01-2008, 04:56 AM
well, how would this work..

i voted yes, however, i know the public couldnt dose themselves, we'd have crazy people running all over lol

administered doses at the LSDDH lsd dose house hehe, it make tons of money :p

MeatWagon499
05-01-2008, 12:38 PM
well, how would this work..

i voted yes, however, i know the public couldnt dose themselves, we'd have crazy people running all over lol

administered doses at the LSDDH lsd dose house hehe, it make tons of money :pim down bro, when u gunna open this shit up and experiment on me?

strat
05-01-2008, 10:17 PM
"You! No eating that iced cream with sprinkles! Don't you know that will melt your stomach, you stupid fool?"

And that's what it boils down to.

chugtonio
05-06-2008, 07:22 AM
As much as I believe that each person should be able to do whatever the fuck they want to themselves as long as not harming others; Lsd should not be simply 'legal' as cigarettes and other things are

Marijuana should be legal
Heroin, meth, coke, morphine, oxicodon etc should stay the same as they are
Lsd and other psychedelics should be treated as sacraments and be heavily stressed as a powerful substance that should be taken with extreme caution

If we are going to try to limit everything that a human can possible take the wrong way, they must ban all sharp objects like pencils and all things possible to get high on
Fuck that
People can have self control
Peoples should know not to abuse lsd just as they should know not to go inhale spray paint fumes just because it is legal

Hell, morning glory seeds are legal, if psychedelic substances are so highly respected as practically life changing ceremonies, people capable of abusing them out of lack of self control would spend the 10 minutes to extract the lsa and dose up

Just because it is legal does not mean it has to be mass marketed