Some bisexual women

[AutumnsMoonChild]

Alot of women who consider themselves to be bisexual seem to not be interested in romantic relationships with other women. They usually just call themselves bisexual because they like having sex with other women. Yet, the go on to pursue relationships with men. Do you think it is right for them to call themselves bisexual? And what is it that makes loving another girl so hard-the fact that she doesn't have a penis?!?! http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif

[Samhain]

Alot of women who consider themselves to be bisexual seem to not be interested in romantic relationships with other women. They usually just call themselves bisexual because they like having sex with other women. Yet, the go on to pursue relationships with men. Do you think it is right for them to call themselves bisexual? And what is it that makes loving another girl so hard-the fact that she doesn't have a penis?!?! http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif
If your sexually attracted to both sexes then your bisexual is nothing to do with having relationships, there will be just as many bisexual women that would say that they couldn't have a relationship with men.
it seems that a lot of bisexuals get persecuted for being honest enough to say that they are attracted to both sexes and honest enough to say that they could have a relationship with one sex and one sex only.
its about emotional attachment not about gentila
S

[erzebet1961]

Im bi...and have been in an emotional relationship with a man for 26 years....much longer than any I have ever had with a lady.

[Samhain]

it annoys me the things people feel that they can get away about saying about bisexuals, things that would be classed as down right homophobic if it was said about gay people
S

[erzebet1961]

So verry true Sam.....and I feel bad because its not fair !!!!!!!!

[SageDreamer]

If these women aren't bisexual, I don't know which term a person could use.

There's no word out there that means "heterosexual woman who likes getting it on with other women every once in a while."

There are many different ways of being homosexual and many ways of being heterosexual and many ways of combining the two. There are lesbians and gay men who end up having sex with one of these bisexuals who isn't really interested in having a deep relationship with someone of the same sex. Sometimes the lesbian or gay man ends up falling in love with the bisexual and things don't go well. All too often, a heart gets broken. This is where much of the negative feelings about bisexuals comes from.

[AutumnsMoonChild]

Sometimes the lesbian or gay man ends up falling in love with the bisexual and things don't go well. All too often, a heart gets broken. This is where much of the negative feelings about bisexuals comes from.That's exactly what happened to me.http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif

[Samhain]

That's exactly what happened to me.http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif
anyone of any sexuality can and do mess people around, I think its wrong to make a sweeping judgement about people
S

[AutumnsMoonChild]

anyone of any sexuality can and do mess people around, I think its wrong to make a sweeping judgement about people
SYeah...I've been screwed over by straight guys, lesbians, bisexual girls,bisexual guys...no transexuals though! heh, but I know that being screwed over by a transexual will most likely happen, because it's ME,you know? I'm the one with terrible luck in every relationship.

[AutumnsMoonChild]

If your sexually attracted to both sexes then your bisexual is nothing to do with having relationships, there will be just as many bisexual women that would say that they couldn't have a relationship with men.
it seems that a lot of bisexuals get persecuted for being honest enough to say that they are attracted to both sexes and honest enough to say that they could have a relationship with one sex and one sex only.
its about emotional attachment not about gentila
SYou're contradicting yourself, there. "It's about emotional attachment not genetalia". Yes, that is exactly what I was trying to say. Alot of 'bisexual' women don't even give girls a chance to be in an emotionally attached relationship, because they are girls. But they will give guys a chance. I'm saying, that I think it is rather silly that someone who claims to be bisexual can only be emotionally attached to one gender. I mean no offense to anyone when I say that...it is only my opinion and not everyone likes it. And that is fine with me.

[Stillravenmad]

Sexual orientation is about being sexually attracted to a certain gender, or both genders. Relationships are about emotional attachment. They're not the same thing.

By your standards, I can never be in a relationship with any one person and remain bisexual, I'd have to be in a relationship with two people at the same time. And I am for sure oh so foxy, but I don't think I could pull that off.

And since I'm not dating anyone at all right now, what does that make me?

[AutumnsMoonChild]

Sexual orientation is about being sexually attracted to a certain gender, or both genders. Relationships are about emotional attachment. They're not the same thing.

By your standards, I can never be in a relationship with any one person and remain bisexual, I'd have to be in a relationship with two people at the same time. And I am for sure oh so foxy, but I don't think I could pull that off.

And since I'm not dating anyone at all right now, what does that make me?Just fuck it!

I'm sick of people misenterpreting what I say. You've got it all wrong, but think what you want. You still don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Why does everyone have to take every single thing I say so damn seriously?

[Samhain]

Just fuck it!

I'm sick of people misenterpreting what I say. You've got it all wrong, but think what you want. You still don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Why does everyone have to take every single thing I say so damn seriously?
I'm trying to reflect on whats going on here?
how about the thread about the gay cure, you took offensive to that, now is the 'i'm not being serious' statement a good enough excuse, or are some statements just offensive and sweeping, no matter how they are intended.
as a male gay man, I can't see how a female bisexual could read your introductory post in this thread and not be offended by it.

have you suffered from any prejudice in your life, if so think about how you felt?
would 'i was only joking' make it all ok?
S

[erzebet1961]

Ok...Autumnsmoonchild, Ive been reading your threads, and , being Bi my entire life, if I werent so grounded, some of what you said could have hurt pretty bad. I really think you need to gather your thoughts before you speak, just for the sake of those younger, brand new souls that sre creeping from their closets. They dont need any more mis- informed judgements tossed at them, Especially on a forum thats herejust for them !!

[Samhain]

Ok...Autumnsmoonchild, Ive been reading your threads, and , being Bi my entire life, if I werent so grounded, some of what you said could have hurt pretty bad. I really think you need to gather your thoughts before you speak, just for the sake of those younger, brand new souls that sre creeping from their closets. They dont need any more mis- informed judgements tossed at them, Especially on a forum thats herejust for them !!
absolutly
S

[AutumnsMoonChild]

have you suffered from any prejudice in your life, if so think about how you felt?
would 'i was only joking' make it all ok?
SYes, I have been the target of alot of prejudice throughout my life. Actually, if someone really was only joking, then it would be fine with me. But I know that not everyone feels that way. And I do apologize for anyone who took offense to my post. I can't really put my thoughts into words that well, no matter how hard I try. I'm not trying to offend anyone. I just don't understand how some women call themselves bisexual, but only want a fuck with a women, and don't want an emotional relationship. In my mind, I see that as straight. Just as a women who would call theirself bisexual and refused to pursue a romantic relationship with a man, but would have sex with them would be considered a lesbian who has sex with men every now and then. That's just how my mind works, and it's not like I can change the way I tick just because more than half the people I come across doesn't like it. Yes, I am a complete hypocrite. I already know that. I have a really hard time walking in other people's shoes, so to speak. I'm just trying to better understand others, not offend them. & again, I apologize to anyone I may of offended.

[honeyhannah]

Here's a question... do you think it is okay for a heterosexual person to have sex with someone and not want to be in a relationship?

It might be that you can't see sex outside of an emotional relationship, and everyone just isn't that way... regardless of sexual preference.

[soaringeagle]

hmm i'm way way beyond exhausted,,,but ok,
1st off i'm prolly prety close to 98.925687% atracted to women..most if not all of the ppl i'm close with are women...everyones bi..everyone..its all love.. butu just fall somewhere on sa scale of which attracts u most..
(your relationships with men are different as well..
tome if iloved someone & she wanted a relationship wirh a woman, i'd totaly understand
its all love itsall sex its all sharing & caring.. women & men interact diferently sexualy mentaly & emotionaly.. ..its all crazy biochemistry...u build the relationships u do because of the way u interact & react to ..diferent sexes ..i should have been asleeep..10 hours ago...
okithinki goit it now
i've noidea whst i just sain...

[Samhain]

hmm i'm way way beyond exhausted,,,but ok,
1st off i'm prolly prety close to 98.925687% atracted to women..most if not all of the ppl i'm close with are women...everyones bi..everyone..its all love.. butu just fall somewhere on sa scale of which attracts u most..
(your relationships with men are different as well..
tome if iloved someone & she wanted a relationship wirh a woman, i'd totaly understand
its all love itsall sex its all sharing & caring.. women & men interact diferently sexualy mentaly & emotionaly.. ..its all crazy biochemistry...u build the relationships u do because of the way u interact & react to ..diferent sexes ..i should have been asleeep..10 hours ago...
okithinki goit it now
i've noidea whst i just sain...
I'm not bi, I love women, I just don't want to go to bed with them, the point when I am sexually attracted to women, I'll call myself Bi
S

[soaringeagle]

iunderstand completely.. idont call myself bi either.. but i realize as well that we are whowe are..u r probly 99.999913% attracted to men...i dont think theres realy a true 100% but like anything with love is u love whou love your attracted to who your attracted to.....i pretty much love everybody, i respect women more...most....some men i respect alot....its all sbout how you interact & have had interactionds with different genders.. but its niot even genders, its people
(srry drymouth from hell..took a medicinal tincure & no sleep 4 days)

[erzebet1961]

Are you still awake soaringeagle....get some sleep before you become sick !!!!

[soaringeagle]

Are you still awake soaringeagle....get some sleep before you become sick !!!! shoild be but took a sip of ganja oil & got drymouth from hell...
everyones tellin me to sleep
omg i mite noit get to sleep till noon

[Alana]

I have alwys considered myself a bisexual lesbian. I have never had an emotional relationship with a girl other than my sister, but the few relationships I had with guys were pretty fucked up. I'll have sex with either gender, but I think if I find a chick I connect with, that may all end. I'd be okay with just a gf.

[clementinexo]

i think that still makes a person bisexual.
i consider myself to be bisexual but right now, i am only interested in men.

[l-foote]

I for one, don't believe in relationships. I have all the emotional attachment I need with my friends. I know I'm oly 17 blah, blah, blah. But I just don't want to have to go through heartbreak with someone I love, losing one of my PHC would destroy me. If I was in an emotional and romantic relationship with someone it would be even worse.

[SageDreamer]

Here's a question... do you think it is okay for a heterosexual person to have sex with someone and not want to be in a relationship?
It's probably "okay" for a heterosexual person to have sex with someone and not want to be in a relationship. However, if that heterosexual person misleads a partner or doesn't communicate his or her interests clearly, I do have a problem with that.

[Jinx]

I am bi but i would never be in a relationship with a woman. well, never say never. but i wouldn't go looking for a woman-woman relationship.

i think women are so beautiful and sensual but i just wouldnt be able to deal with all the womanly probs, ya know? my pms is enough for me, dont need someone elses lol. if i found a woman who played no games, was not manipulative, than maybe. but most woman are pretty catty, they just cant help it.

[mynameiskc]

i had a crush on this girl once who pretended to be bi to get men's attention. it was pretty hurtful. not that the emotional bonding didn't work, but that she wasn't into women, only into putting on a show for men and used me in all my glory, to get it.

but as for long term partnerships with women, i've just never found one before i found my husband. had i not found my husband, i don't even know where i'd be now, or with whom. i'm sure any number of possibilites would present themselves. but dave is so much my other half that i can't imagine being with ANYONE else, male of female. you can't really help where you find your other half. it's there, or it's not. so if someone adores females sexually and for long term friendships, but can't help the fact that a long term true partnership isn't there, should they be insulted for it? thought of as fickle or flighty? since i'm neither, i'd have to say that i find that particular opinion to be unfounded.

[ihmurria]

There are varying degrees of bisexuality.
Just because a person uses the label "bisexual" doesn't that they are attracted in completely equal portions to men and women.

Anyone heard of the Kinsey Scale? Where one end is completely straight, the other is completely gay, bisexual is in the middle? Well, it's a scale, people aren't lumped at only those three delineated points. I call myself bi because I could see myself making out with a woman, but I'm not sure how much further it would go until I'd actually experienced it. Somewhere between completely straight and that halfpoint labelled as bisexual. That's where I fall, and I know it.

To the OP, I'm sorry that you got hurt, but I don't think that broad sweeping generalizations about all bisexual women is the appropriate way to try and figure out what happened. Have you ever asked these women if they consider themselves to be wholly bi, or somewhere on that scale? A label is just a word, we all have slightly different definitions of words/labels

[Samhain]

There are varying degrees of bisexuality.
Just because a person uses the label "bisexual" doesn't that they are attracted in completely equal portions to men and women.

Anyone heard of the Kinsey Scale? Where one end is completely straight, the other is completely gay, bisexual is in the middle? Well, it's a scale, people aren't lumped at only those three delineated points. I call myself bi because I could see myself making out with a woman, but I'm not sure how much further it would go until I'd actually experienced it. Somewhere between completely straight and that halfpoint labelled as bisexual. That's where I fall, and I know it.

To the OP, I'm sorry that you got hurt, but I don't think that broad sweeping generalizations about all bisexual women is the appropriate way to try and figure out what happened. Have you ever asked these women if they consider themselves to be wholly bi, or somewhere on that scale? A label is just a word, we all have slightly different definitions of words/labels
I looked up the Kinsey scale and have done this thread
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214535

[Ligia]

For me till now it was only a fantasy

[Joey*]

HI,.
I hope no-one takes offense to this in any way.
It's been my expierience you're attracted to people you have some type of chemistry with.Same sex,different sex whatever,it's all chemistry.If I was having a difficult time finding a partner of either sex(I'm Bi)that was compatable to what I was looking for in some type of relationship,even if I only just wanted sex.I'd really have to think what it is I may be contributing to the situation that leaves me in the cold of not finding someone compatible.It's not about sexual preference at all.It's about chemistry,theirs and mine.Relationships are a two way street.Regardless of gender and orientation,I also find what AutumsMoonChild is saying to be a very prejeduced generalization of Bisexuals.I understand what you're saying perfectly Autum,and It diffenetely bothers me,but I know you meant no offense and it's kinda not a big deal sorta,This is diffenetely the kind of stuff that gives Bisexuals a bad name though,I'd suggest if you're having difficulty finding someone compatible (whatever sex or gender)that it maybe something about you,and you might want to explore that before you go make generalizations about anyone,or any group of people.

Why is it that when there difficulties in relationships alot of people do not think of what there part in it maybe?? I don't know,It is something I find very aggravating since I try to figure out what I may be doing that may cause a problem.
Anyway,.With Love,
There's my 2 cents.http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif
Joey,...

Take me disaperring through the smoke rings of my mind.

[moongazer]

i think nowadays its "the thing" to be bisexual. but i know i dont do it for attention or whatever; i do it because its ME.
sure, i pursue men, too, but thats because i like both genders. even though i like women MUCH more, i still like men, so there ya go.
it really isnt hard to fall in love with girls, ill tell you that....

[franzde]

it annoys me the things people feel that they can get away about saying about bisexuals, things that would be classed as down right homophobic if it was said about gay people
S
yes! so true!

[franzde]

Yeah...I've been screwed over by straight guys, lesbians, bisexual girls,bisexual guys...no transexuals though! heh, but I know that being screwed over by a transexual will most likely happen, because it's ME,you know? I'm the one with terrible luck in every relationship.
then stop attacking female bi-sexuals because of any relationship problems you may have had in the past. i'm a bi-sexual male but i would only ever be in a loving relationship with a girl and not a guy. but i am undeniably sexually attracted to men as well as women therefore i am a bi-sexual because i have SEXUAL feelings for BOTH sexes.

[feather-boas]

arghhhhh! why is it that people are so less willing to accept bisexuality than homosexuality? does it not make sense that if there are people to either end of the spectrum (Kinsey scale, watever) that there are going to be people in the middle of it?

i agree with whoever earlier on said the peice about where u percieve urself as falling on it. and of course every1s interpritation is slightly different of what they mean by what they say. the trouble is that the labels we use to get by in society are so narrow that ppl box themself into all sorts of corners with how they 'fit' themself in.

personally i find i fall quite near the middle of the Kinsey scale, but theres millions who are more for one or the other. as a community i suppose we really just need 2 get abit more publicity- make a bigger scene about being accepted and acknoledged as being as sexuality legitamite as hetero or homosexuality. then both other sides of the scale will have 2 admit it exists and isnt just promisculous nutters!!! actually, i am so for the idea of bi-bars! then every1 in the place could hit on aaaannnybody else, and we would meet folks inclinded like ourselves, which is always a good place to start http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif

[franzde]

actually, i am so for the idea of bi-bars! then every1 in the place could hit on aaaannnybody else, and we would meet folks inclinded like ourselves, which is always a good place to start http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
awesome idea

[lovelorned]

Well, being young, I can stilll say that when I was in a relationship with my ex girlfriend, I felt like I got emotionally attatched..and I honeslty can say, that I love women more than men..I only like 1 man, and that has been for 3 years...I just can't seem to find any girls..