My First HPS

[ConRev]

My First Gow: Would like to share pictures but I don't get how to post them. I tried uploading but the files were too big. Tried looking for info but I can't find it; can someone help me out? Don't laugh!

Do I have to compress the images then upload to member galleries then use the url from that to get them in this box???

Please help....

[wonderboy]

i usually open them in paint, resize them to about 1/2, and thats cool. or upload it to http://www.imageshack.us/ and link it here. good luck

[buffoonman]

Have you got photoshop. If not try and get it. Its an excellent program for editing photographs.

[ConRev]

Thanks alot for the direction! I'm totally ignorant about these things, I'll give yer suggestions a try.

[ConRev]

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Duh! Resized with paint...this is an old PA Amp i gutted to house my ballast.

More pics to come,......
RevCon

[ConRev]

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These little buggers look way way better (than this photo) after two days under HID. Formerly kept under around 200+ w cfl and tubes. They are still so small after 4 weeks because I kept them in styrofoam cups, then 12 oz beer cups, and now these pots. I did that so they wouldn't get ahead of me, and to stress the hell out of them. If all 8 of these go male...I'll just have to plant more seeds I geuss. Seeds from dirtweed, just terrible terrible brown bricky shite.

I'll get photos of my rig in a day or two--gotta use a friends digi

Whaddya think of my stealthy ballast box!?

peace reverconblubberflub

[buffoonman]

Disguising your ballast as an amp ,excellent idea.

[ConRev]

http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/dainers_009.jpgman, if only someone woulda told me how easy this was when i was
still in high school...

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white paper for reflection so far, drilled holes in the floor with a drip pan slid underneath. socket suspended with hemphttp://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif

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killed an old pc tower for the fans which are ducted directly outside,
sucking in fresh air. temps are not a problem, but i'll have to figure
an exhaust sooner or later. the duct was already there, so far dirt and light
are the only expenses (leftover fertilizer)

[ConRev]

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Gonna keep 2. With any luck i'll get some scratch and buy a ballast kit for a 70 watt bulb i have and set some lucky friend up with a microbox. These are about 33 days old. i think tomorrow i'll do some LST. still have to make it light tight...little foam, some duct tape, then just wait for them to show me sex. is good, no?

Reconversant peace

[ConRev]

Got thermometer yesterday and I woke up at 2 am to check temps--55 degrees F!!!! Detached the duct and left the fan running, and checked again at about 6:30, temps were about 62. After the lights been on an hour its around 75-80. So I put up some aluminum foil. Gonna check and see if I get hotspots in a few hours. 55 degrees! That sucks just one more thing I have to remember to do everyday. And the winter is coming so this could get a little complicated...

[ConRev]

Pantyhose over fan to keep out little gnats and fruit flies. Put some sliced potato in each pot so they can lay there eggs there not in my soil.

[M4N14C42O]

Hey Con sounds like your grow is coming along!! One thing you can do for your cold temps is look into a cheap portable heater ($10US or so). I live in a cold winter climate also with hot summer climate so it's quite a battle when switching between the two but can be controlled. And i dont know about puttin potatoes in there.......i understand the purpose........but wouldn't it just draw more of them plus other insects in also?? I'd just look into a cheap organic pest spray.....plantitearth.com has many nice products at a cheap price. Anyways thought id put in my 2c. Lookin good, keep the updates comin.


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[ConRev]

thanks M4...yeah, i shoulda put more slices down, I didn't get that part right away. They can't come in thru the fan but I geuss they must get out the lip of the duct and come in thru the cracks, as I said it's not sealed yet. I'll check out the organic sprays and look around for some DIY recipes, solutions. I set a fan on high and rustled the plants to get up movin then did my best to kill some and get'em outta my cab, but they're still here this morning.
Temps were 95F when I woke up, attached duct, dropped 10 degrees in ten minutes. Yesterday LST'd, topped one indicadom spur-of-the-moment, made a temporary reflector. Don't get those hotspots with the foil, i assume since im only 150 watts.

*some background*
I'm only trying to get through a whole life cycle. Yield and potency, I don't care about, I just want to keep them alive till ripe. The first time I grew, aside from the bush that grew well in a friends setaside land, I got 4/4 males indoors. Second grow, kept 1 awesome fem that ended up 8 feet tall--flourescents and too much superthrive. Chopped her after a few weeks for security. They're on Rose freaking food now, I think 16-24-16, it's worked before and I use the smallest amount with a drop of superthrive. Hyponex soil/perlite. MG 10-50-10 for bloom. Yep. Just keeping them alive and %75 healthy is the only goal. After THAT i'll look in to all the great products I see everyone use. I swore I'd never buy again...but yesterday I was frazzled and my elfbabe gave me twunny bucks for some green brick "mids". Actually it's just shwag with a few tigerstripe seeds, but around here...does the job i geuss.

We're gonna legalize this stuff someday soon-ConRev

[M4N14C42O]

Hey Con.....sounds like things are coming along. As long as you can get the bugs taken care of before flowering you should be in the clear. Sounds like you got the nutes figured out.......i know you know but be very careful with that rose food, looks pretty potent. Anyways i wish ya luck for a female ;) Great to see the enthusiasm......just wait till you get som HID lights like 400W or more with good soil and nutes........wow the difference it makes is amazing. Keep us posted with the updates.


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[ConRev]

shit, the 150s blowin me away right now...but I'll just buy a ballast, some cord and a 400 or 600 bulb...some aluminum flashing

is it possible to clone, seed, and reveg a mother? do people do that?

[M4N14C42O]

hmmm im not too sure on that............i would imagine thats quite a bit of stress but im still pretty new and limited in my information........might work but don't take my word on it. Someone else will be able to answer your ? or you could go post the question in BOGLAND. Usually get your question answered fairly quick.


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[T.H. Cammo]

Hey Conrev!

M4N is right! It may be possible (if you are really good!) but it's not a good idea. Putting out fully developed seeds is just about the last thing the plant does before it dies - it is already in the process of dying!!! If you are able to rescue it from the clutches of "the Grim Reaper" you have to nurse it back to health; but it wont be the same again because it is all "burned out".
Some people reveg after harvesting sinsemilla to get a (much smaller) second harvest; but in that case the plant isn't nearly as burned out. It is much more efficient to grow a whole new crop.
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking about cloning! Cuttings, for clones, should be taken from a plant before it goes into flowering stage.

[M4N14C42O]

im thinking he meant grow out the plant till flowering, take clones, pollinate and make seeds, then try to save the plant and do it all over again......but why would you need clones and seeds???? Id just take clones.....then ya always got a female and a much quicker harvest ;)


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[T.H. Cammo]

Hey Conrev!
Okay! I'm a little confused! What did you mean?

"is it possible to clone, seed, and reveg a mother? do people do that?"

[buffoonman]

I think he means can you re-veg a seeded plant. After it has had cuttings removed from it. Not that removing cuttings would make any diference. I would say you can re-veg a seeded plant.

[ConRev]

Yeah it was just a wanton question. I'm nowhere near utilizing that type of info anyhow, so I didn't just post it in different forum. But yeah, clone, seed, reveg. No particular reason, just thought it would be cool to get allll that outta one plant.


My plants are at 5 1/2 weeks, one has started alternating. A clumsy topping has turned out okay. I'm flippin to 12/12 soon as I get off my ass make my cab light tight since my photoperiod will be during the cold nights. I'm hoping for them to show sex on their own since I still have one more transplant. Howver I took another hour of light away, so they're at 17/7, started at 19/5. Stay tuned...

[ConRev]

Just snapped a plants neck. Little sad it was good plant. Smelled like cheese. Down to 7. Watering every 3-4 days, feeding a tiny amount of ferts w/superthrive once every 2 or 3 waterings. Using my dehumidifier water but I got some distilled water, hydrogen peroxide, and some epsom salt as it appears one or two have flirted with Mag def. Shifting photoperiod and resetting at 8hrs darkness. In the next two days I will seal the cab and make a passive exhaust. If no preflowers by 10/2 will flip to 12/12 and transplant asap. Looks like a likely scenario. Also add red cfls at that time. Then try not to have nightmares about hermies.

I save the plants I chop for tea. Have to wait for the chlorophyll to break down but I've tried a sample and it's really soothing, makes my blood warm. I don't know if this one is worth saving since I've fertilized it with chemical salts?

Ugh I want buds!
Photo update tomorrow night

[ConRev]

two nights of 16/8 got the preflowers coming on mostof my plants. And I'm 99% sure the two best looking are female yeeyeahya wonder if I should peel it back to 18/6...

This is awesome. I hope to be able to switch in three days, just need to get some weatherstripping, fashion an exhaust, and get some soil ready, etc..

[ConRev]

(sighs)...still waiting for some definite sex on all but one of my plants...switched to 15/9...cab is 95% sealed, just waiting for two good fems to emerge so I can transplant and flip to 12/12...sprayed tobacco juice/mint mouthwash all around the bases of the pots and moistened top soil, has reduced gnats drastically. Smells good too. just a few more days...almost 7 weeks in veg! Won't do it this way again, that's for sure. In the future I'll jsut transplant during 12/12...

[ConRev]

So I got impatient and transplanted last night. One girl smells very citrusy and another is spicy musky cinnamon. I kept a third by stacking pots. It's funny; the brickweed these seeds came from often had a cinnamon smell that I chalked up to plastic, but it seems to be a pheno trait. That is so cool. I hope the finished product retains this characteristic, as I hope the citrus one does too.


So tonight I'm cutting an exhaust as I've had leave the door open with with a fan blowing in the last few days have been unseasonably warm and the cab easily hits 90. Flipping to 12/12 tomorrow will have pics up tonight.

Gnats have been greatly reduced thanks to a mouthwash/tobacco tea mixture. Been misting topsoil and drenching the bottoms of pots and cab floor. I think In the future I'll use the tea alone and maybe just put a bowl of mouthwash on the floor for vapes. This is a fun hobby...

[ConRev]

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Soooo...all I've got left to do is cut an exhaust...and wait....I put an extra fan on them during light period...

They're on 12/12 now. I hope this takes under ten weeks. In any event I'm learning.

[ConRev]

Oh, and I have to paint the walls...other than that am i gonna have bud in a couple months?

[rob1134]

looks cool man, wish i had my own place to do this stuff.

[ConRev]

rob is that all you ever say! HAHHAHHH I wish I had my own place, too. My landlord pays my electricity bill, I hope he doesn't freak. Oh yeah my landlord is my father in law. Who was a police investigator for twenty years. After six years in Vietnam.

When I get my own place it's gonna be aquaponics no doubt. Big ass fish tank.

[ConRev]

I guess the outside humidity is up cuz after eight hours of light last night I found some leaves stuck together by condensation. Got an exhaust cut but it's gonna take another fan. I may have to cut another powered intake to mix some dry basement air in with the moist outdoor. And more than likely I'll have to buy a small heater fan soon, it may snow this week! One of my plants may be a hermie, will have to wait and make sure. In the coming months I think I'll figure out a mom and clone chamber so I can do scrog in the future. This sexing business is more trouble than it's worth, and I could have been flowering a month ago!

[M4N14C42O]

Hey Con,

Sorry to hear about the possible hermie. I also had one hermie. Ill be buying a small heater also........its snowing here now!! Anyways you should definately have some bud in a couple months ;) Just make sure your light tight and try and keep those temps under control. Mine have been in 12/12 for 21 days and i've got 1-2in top colas everywhere ;) They have also been growin about 1-1.5in a day. So yours should be doin the same here very soon!!!

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[ConRev]

Hey dude thanks fer dropping by. Temps have dropped and my plants now bask in the mid 70s. Found out today they were actually on 13/11, whoooops. Checked the potential hermie again, no news, though I am glad it seems to be on just one node. The preflowers seem a little to stumpy to be fem, but who knows, only time will tell. I guess I'll just have to cut the balls off as they come. The smells are unbelievable; one of them is like fresh cut papaya with a hint of orange. The cinnamon one is starting to change to skunky/musky.
Far fucking out

[ConRev]

haven't watered in 8 days:sunglasse

[ConRev]

Definitely a dead hermie. The top was all female the bottom all male. Lucky for me, I kept a third plant. Transplanted it, little water, and away we go. I wouldn't be surprised if both went hermie as well. Damn bagseed.

[ConRev]

Plants are now 8 weeks old, one week of 12/12. No stretching, watered ONCE in two weeks, will flush tonight. One plant has apparent Mag def, possibly N def as well. Other than that, pistils and stipules are poppin out the tops and they look great............................................. .................................................. ...............

[ConRev]

Looks like 8 days on 12/12. Flushed one of them it responded overnight. Topped it off with H20 and epsom salt, perked right up and the color is coming back to the leaves. Fed the other one 1/2 tsp of 10-50-10, then the other one a tad less. I'll definitely have some baby bud porn soon, they're really taking off in the last three days. Temps never get above 80, but I have had to have my little fan off during the dark period. Had a little flare of powder fungus but that stopped it. I'll get a second fan in there soon. Glad I've kept this journal, next time I'll surely need a notebook. To do it better.

[ConRev]

The def plant is 95% better. It's more branchy than the other and much lighter green. But the other is way ahead budwise. definitely indica-tive. Picked up a good heated fan for when the temp drops below freezing. Checked it the other night at 60F. It's well worth it for the outside air. think i'll take pics tomorrow.

[M4N14C42O]

Good to hear that the plant is feelin better ;) Sounds like your trucking right along. Im also going to have to pick up a heater fan. Opened the closet the other day when the lights came on and it was 53F :eek:. Anyways keep up the great work and lets see some of the kiddie bud porn!!!

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[ConRev]

ooo pics soon as I can...day 15 flower...

This little fan I got is awesome. I leave it on the lowest setting. 80-60F with the light five inches from plants, but at night the humidity goes up and fan leaves form condensation between them. I'm thinking the fan should erase that. No signs of fungus or mildew though. And the plants don't smell fruity no more. They smell like butthole.

[ConRev]

On rubbing stems: at first it smells like oranges and flowers. After a few minutes, it smells like butt. Neat

[ConRev]

ah man it s like three am. i took a buncha pics on mey vid-jo cam,,, pretty ccool. mmmm i dunno howda putum up. HAh. i got bud. holy hell sam adams brown ale, some darvocet, and a big ass white russian just done me all spazzy like i dunno how i stay afloat. mmm i love this shit i really do every day goin down and checking in ond da buds. today is 28/10 i think so 18 days? on bud? nothin like inch tall colas but pretty near, and better than i ever seen.. OH

and today i went to check on some wild hemp maybe for seed for to plant at City Hall...but development has begun on that little strip of pasture...BUT! i've secured some land for spring...wow i'm preety fucked up i think imma play some poker

and i set my thermometer four inches from my light, lay across the fan leaves, and it read like 95F, but I put my hand in there and theres no heat cuz the outside are is blowing over it, and i set my hand right over the top bud three inches from light, and wasn't hot...yet the thermo said 95F, so i set it at the soil, and later it said like 85, but I put my hand right by the tops of the plant and it's cool, cuz the outside iz like 40F, and thats warm for the season, and I dunno what the fuck I'm talkin about, but this shit is easy, growin herb, and BY GOD, whatever god there is, who made it, i'm gonna plant it as far as my eye can see hallelujah and now it's time for poker and farting

[ConRev]

note to self: fed 10/29

first trichs are forming

[ConRev]

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10/26 @ 16? days

16 very long days and nights.

[ConRev]

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10/31. Almost exactly three weeks. Look good?????????

[ConRev]

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[M4N14C42O]

Lookin good......just wait for those babies to start layerin on the trichs!!! Keep up the great work!

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[ConRev]

Found a pollen sack tonight on my fast flowering plant. Plucked it off and found no more. Of course when i plucked it it fell somewhere, i have no idea. That bush needs a flush anyway, and she'll get it in two days. Yay. I'm not to worried. Gave a top a squeeze and it felt nice and firm. Trichs slowly spreading on the little fan fingers poppin outta the bud. Next grow will be more bagseed fimmed and somewhat scrogged, then in the spring things will get serious. I feel like Cartman waiting for the Wii to come out.

[ConRev]

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one thing i've learned is to veg for one full week after the last transplant, i think my roots would have benefitted much from that.

[ConRev]

Fattening steadily. Trichs spreading slowly but steadily. My bushier plant is progressing very nicely. Still have some gnats, so I mist the topsoil with diluted mouthwash. Keeps them away nicely. Some spiders have moved in, hopefully they can help out. Day 26


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Flushed the fast one really well, but the runoff water wasn't the least bit discolored. I'm lazy, so my light reflectivity could be way better, but aluminum foil works quite well, I don't care what anyone says. Time goes slowwwww

[buffoonman]

Time will go soon enough, don't forget the buds put on most of there weight the last few weeks. There looking brilliant.

[ConRev]

Thanks Bufoonman. I just had an accident; I couldn't check on the plants early enough tonight and I found a CFL had fallen on the bushier, slower flowering one. Lost three tops, although they were smaller ones. So I got them drying. I really should set my lights up better. Thing is: I had two dreams: one where my cats ate an entire plant, buds and leaves and all, and another were one got harvested way early by accident. And then I find these poor crushed and burned budlets. Oh well the trichs are really starting to impress me. Gonna roll a j when the casualties are dry...sighs...


but hey B-Man, brilliant? Thanks I needed that

[ConRev]

30 days. http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/11_10_2006_9_49_PM_0004.jpg

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cut the rest of the burn victims. was drinking some pumpkin ale and working up a pining, toasted and roasted, real smashing high, but short lasting...hit the spot...

[ConRev]

Holy shit are they fattening! I found some seeded calyx at the bottom of a cola, must have been that one sac I found and dropped out of sight, I couldn't find any bananas tonight and I looked for 1/2 hour. Found 1 seeded calyx on the main cola, which is starting to resemble something I have only seen in pictures!

So I had my nose in there and while I can't smell them, when i get real tight the smell is unmistakable--ORANGE JUICE! Like, freshly squeezed pulp filled breakfast OJ!!!! I could not help myself--three little runt stems got chopped. I mean here I am pouring over these fattening trichome factories that smell like my favorite juice, and I'm supposed to practice self control? Fuck that. FUCK THAT.

And I got some more bagseed sprouting atm. ANd a cupboard for veg coming. Yay!

[buffoonman]

Looking good. Don't worry we all nip off a bud or two just don't get carried away as they put most of they weight on in the last couple of weeks of flowering.

[ConRev]

40 days and my advanced plant is quickly filling with seed from the bottom up. I'm guessing it's either that one lone pollen sac from weeks ago or there's a banana hidden twixt the stacking calyxes. OH well, I kept my expectations low! I think i'm going to chop off all the lower and small bud and see if I can get the prize tops to finish without seeding over. Glad I have two, the other one is showing no signs of pollenation--yet!

[ConRev]

So, after a few days of water cure I tore open a stem and it was mosdef going ALL hermi, kinda gross...so



I have learned that: It's just not worth it to grow schwag seed. DEATH To SHWAG!!

and a few other things.

My other plant is preggers so I guess I'll just keep her up till ripe.

Then regroup until spring. And begin again.

(fin)

[M4N14C42O]

hmm this is just outta curiosity.........but what do ya mean by, " it was mosdef going ALL hermie, kinda gross."????? How is it gross????? But definately better off using a reputable strain......better high, better growth, usually more females.....all in all just better ;) As for keepin up on the last plant....i would say just get rid of as many balls and bananas that you can find and try to keep it as much female as possible......even if there are some seeds.......schwag bags come with seeds so it should still get ya high....just not as tasty. And why wait until spring??? If you have a HPS you should be able to grow indoors anytime.......maybe i missed something (a reason you have to wait till spring) but who knows. Sorry bout the he-she's, pick yourself up a reputable strain and start there. Anyways best of luck to ya bud......don't let this grow get ya down.

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