Hippie History heros

[MikeE]

Those who forget..etc.

Who do you think are the most influencial hippies? Whose achievements should be remembered by all who call themselves hippies?

I'll start by offering Ina Mae Gaskin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ina_May_Gaskin), the mother of modern midwifery.

[fistermister]

Alexander Shulgin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Shulgin)

[Flight From Ashiya]

Marilyn Monroe because she was a 'hippie' 10 years before anyone else.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-11/1108566/wed15sept1954.gif

[MaximusXXX]

The Greatest Hippie was the one that destroyed the Hippie epidemic.


There's cool hippies, and then there's the whole shit load of annoying Hippies who contribute nothing to society and are a bunch of lazy bastards.

Lennon was probably the best Hippie.

[MikeE]

Buckminster Fuller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminster_Fuller) was not a hippie himself. But his geodesic dome and his developing the concept of sustainability had a strong influance on hippies. A form of carbon (C60) is named Fullerene after him.

[MikeE]

The Society of Friends (Quakers) are a christian sect that has long practiced nonviolence and used a consensus decision making process. Their infulance is felt throughout the hippie community and beyond.

[heeh2]

http://files.myopera.com/Mathilda/albums/46060/thumbs/_jimi_hendrix.JPG_thumb.jpg
lennon was probly the best hippie...
but he couldnt play a guitar with his teeth lol
thanks for all the music man....
rip

[heeh2]

though lennon did make some verry good music

[Flight From Ashiya]

........A good friend of John Lennon & author of: 'Do It':

Jerry Rubin, should be inducted into the: 'Hippie Hall Of Fame':

http://www.altmanphoto.com/JerryRubin.sm.jpeg

[medication_forusall]

i favor neil young.

[MouthfullOfCavities]

i agree with jerry rubin and neil young......................
but im gunna have to say Allen Ginsberg, but thats a given!

[MikeE]

"But that's a given" is not true. Many people don't know the contributions of the counter-culture called Hippies. I've been asked "What's Woodstock?", which was a real eye opener about aging, heros, and cultural myths.

I'm surprised that with all the musicians named there is one glaring ommision, Jerry.

[osirisofwraiths]

seriously jerry should have been one of the first dudes mentioned

[indian~summer]

jerrys mentioned and not abby?
i'd give the cia a hand of applause for releasing lsd into the world and the counter-culture, they created :D
there were so many great hippies, and the movement wasn't made by just one person, respect for them all, and not just hippies, alot of people that walked this earth before us and did alot to make it a great place :)

[lucyinthesky16]

george harrison, he knew more about peace than john lennon, and he never beat his wife.

[samson]

Hippies arent always musicians, and being influential doesnt always hinge on record sales. Cheers to those who mentioned non-musicians.
Also, are we allowing for the influences to be ON hippies or FROM hippies? If the era isnt specific, all the beat writers should be very high on the list.


How about some of these notable hippies...

Michael Butler - bred from a young age to enter politics, Michael left the path to congress in favor of producing one of the most notable artistic works of the era by taking the musical HAIR to broadway.


Michael Lang - helped organize Woodstock - THE largest hippie gathering of all time, not to mention the event that introduced granola as a munchie food


Bill Graham/Chet Helms - these two gave the frisco sound a chance to develop by booking bands and bringing older blues players to young white audiences


Twiggy - the poster child for what the "in" crowd wore and should look like


Michael Weymouth - opened a fashion clothing store in london in the early 1960s, the shop that brian jones and the stones, the beatles, jane asher, and almost all of the hip brit crowd came. The pre-cursor to the Apple Store, where do you think the Beatles got those cool outfits they wore during the Revolver years and after? He also did many great psychedelic posters for events and bands such as hendrix

Rick Griffin/Stanley Mouse - with distinct style of event posters and handbills of the time, these two along with Weymouth created associations between their art and the era that will never go away.

The Smothers Brothers - these brothers were the financial backing for several popular west coast music and art fests, as well as allowing freaky folks to play music on their tv variety show.

Dick Cavett - his tv show was a place that many popular hippies were interviewed, as well as giving musical spots, instead of just the musical appearances usually done for hippie musical groups

Marianne Faithful - may not have invented the groupie image, but certainly perfected it


Native Americans - a popular group to look to during the hippie era, to the point where a batch of hippies and indians got together and took over Alcatrazz island in the late 60s. As the hippies looked to get back to the land, the native culture got alot of notice in the western usa.

Ronald Reagan - at the time he was governor of california, and his parties were attended by many stars of the time. Generally speaking, his handling of the state was very loose, and his reign allowed the hippie scene to flourish.

Charles Manson - influential as well as creepy, Charles embodied parents worst fears for their hippie children. Mainstream opinions were formed based on this loony and his followers that still exist. Maybe not a good influence, but an influence nontheless

MLK - the civil rights issue was a large factor for many hippies, and the peaceful demonstrations of Dr.King was an important influence for the 60s, and not just hippies.





good topic folks!

[Flight From Ashiya]

jerrys mentioned and not abby?
i'd give the cia a hand of applause for releasing lsd into the world and the counter-culture, they created :D
there were so many great hippies, and the movement wasn't made by just one person, respect for them all, and not just hippies, alot of people that walked this earth before us and did alot to make it a great place :)

You're right:Thanks!:

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images2/hoffman_abbie4.jpg


-Abbie Hoffman.

[Flight From Ashiya]

Hippies arent always musicians, and being influential doesnt always hinge on record sales. Cheers to those who mentioned non-musicians.
Also, are we allowing for the influences to be ON hippies or FROM hippies? If the era isnt specific, all the beat writers should be very high on the list.


How about some of these notable hippies...

Michael Butler - bred from a young age to enter politics, Michael left the path to congress in favor of producing one of the most notable artistic works of the era by taking the musical HAIR to broadway.


Michael Lang - helped organize Woodstock - THE largest hippie gathering of all time, not to mention the event that introduced granola as a munchie food


Bill Graham/Chet Helms - these two gave the frisco sound a chance to develop by booking bands and bringing older blues players to young white audiences


Twiggy - the poster child for what the "in" crowd wore and should look like


Michael Weymouth - opened a fashion clothing store in london in the early 1960s, the shop that brian jones and the stones, the beatles, jane asher, and almost all of the hip brit crowd came. The pre-cursor to the Apple Store, where do you think the Beatles got those cool outfits they wore during the Revolver years and after? He also did many great psychedelic posters for events and bands such as hendrix

Rick Griffin/Stanley Mouse - with distinct style of event posters and handbills of the time, these two along with Weymouth created associations between their art and the era that will never go away.

The Smothers Brothers - these brothers were the financial backing for several popular west coast music and art fests, as well as allowing freaky folks to play music on their tv variety show.

Dick Cavett - his tv show was a place that many popular hippies were interviewed, as well as giving musical spots, instead of just the musical appearances usually done for hippie musical groups

Marianne Faithful - may not have invented the groupie image, but certainly perfected it


Native Americans - a popular group to look to during the hippie era, to the point where a batch of hippies and indians got together and took over Alcatrazz island in the late 60s. As the hippies looked to get back to the land, the native culture got alot of notice in the western usa.

Ronald Reagan - at the time he was governor of california, and his parties were attended by many stars of the time. Generally speaking, his handling of the state was very loose, and his reign allowed the hippie scene to flourish.

Charles Manson - influential as well as creepy, Charles embodied parents worst fears for their hippie children. Mainstream opinions were formed based on this loony and his followers that still exist. Maybe not a good influence, but an influence nontheless

MLK - the civil rights issue was a large factor for many hippies, and the peaceful demonstrations of Dr.King was an important influence for the 60s, and not just hippies.





good topic folks!


Governor Ronald 'Ray Guns' Reagan!- I like it!!!!.:D
He hated the 'great unwashed' of 1967 but equally that year he called for the immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Vietnam.Reagan was always contradictory.
The Smothers Brothers - I'm sure I read one time that John Lennon threw a punch at one of them.:D

[dollydagger]

Chet Helms for expanding the SF music scene.
Ken Kesey for introducing the acid test and expanding the acid scene
Aldous Huxley(i know, he's a little early)
Neal Cassidy(the original tweaker and Kerouac's muse)
Grace Slick because she rocks

[joe07735]

The biggest hippie hero ever is undoubtedly Eugene V. Debs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Debs

[grimjivey]

Neal Cassidy(the original tweaker and Kerouac's muse)


Awsome!!!

Cowboy Neal, at the wheel of the bus to never-ever land

:jester:

[Saeru]

I think David Crosby was a pretty big hippie back then...

[dollydagger]

David Crosby is still a pretty big hippie now...

[MollyThe Hippy]

when that fellow put a flower in the soldier's gun at the anti-war protest

[hippie_chick666]

I think Bertrand Russell is a hippie hero. He helped design the peace sign.

Peace and love

[dollydagger]

you know where the peace sign came from, right?

[Airfern1313]

you know where the peace sign came from, right?woh, i looked that up and would never have guessed that....

[dollydagger]

yeah...2 flag signs put together to mean "nuclear disarmament" one pose the guy looks like I (not an I but a straight line) and the other pose is an inverted V like ^
I wish I could draw on this damn thing....but you get what Im sayin, right?

[JackStraw675]

Im surprised no one has mentioned this.

Gandhi anyone? He was where MLK got most of his practices of peace, he is a huge figure in the shaping of the whole belief in peace and love in my opinion

[TerrapinRose]

The contributions of Ken Kesey and the merry pranksters can't be overlooked.

[hippie_chick666]

Yeah, I'm surprised Ghandi wasn't mentioned earlier. What about Buddha? He was a hippie before hippies existed.

Peace and love

[old tiger]

This..was a hippie too:)

http://www.virtualdali.com/

Tiger

[MollyThe Hippy]

don't forget the german leader (forgot his name) who commisioned the development of all-time-favorite super hippy moter vehicle... the vw bug ... and the vw bus too

[dollydagger]

^^you mean Hitler???

[MikeE]

Yeah, I'm surprised Ghandi wasn't mentioned earlier. What about Buddha? He was a hippie before hippies existed.

Peace and love
In that vein, Chuang Tzu. (Taoist writer)

[ripple]

Socrates!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates

[Black Jim]

........A good friend of John Lennon & author of: 'Do It':

Jerry Rubin, should be inducted into the: 'Hippie Hall Of Fame':

http://www.altmanphoto.com/JerryRubin.sm.jpeg
Wasn't Rubin a Yippie?

Read -'We are everywhere' written in the Cook County Jail

[Captain Cool]

Johnny Cash was pretty liberal and loving in his time before Most people accepted it. Those members of the Bohemian scene in the late 1800s in germany and northern California were hippies in their day and age. And back then, Smoking pot was legal.

[Captain Cool]

Yeah, I'm surprised Ghandi wasn't mentioned earlier. What about Buddha? He was a hippie before hippies existed.

Peace and love Ghandi was more of a Guru then a hipster. I don't think he did drugs or alcohol. He was like the Baptist John of their faith. Most hippies are experimental. Not all had kind souls.

[PSYCHEDELICA MAN]

a.ginsberg,k.kesey,t.leary,m.lang,m.bowen,....

[dirtydog]

Ain't no question. Timothy Leary, 1920-1996. He not only did pioneering research into psychedelic drugs while at Harvard, and got fired for his experiments. He was a driving force in popularizing them. Not only that, but when the pigs busted him for a small amount of marijuana and sent him to prison for ten years, he busted out of California Mens' Colony, San Luis Obispo, 1970, and escaped to Algeria (with help from the Weather Underground). In fact he escaped prison by pulling himself hand over hand over a phone line that went over the fence, having found a route to the roof, and by coordinating his escape with an escape vehicle on a well timed schedule. A different vehicle took his prison clothes to a gas station in San Diego, well off his escape route.


So, he wins on all fronts: as an academic, as a successful escaping convict, as a media celebrity. But most of all, I think anyone who can fool the American pig establishment on all fronts deserves some kind of award.

[dirtydog]

Ronald Reagan - at the time he was governor of california, and his parties were attended by many stars of the time. Generally speaking, his handling of the state was very loose, and his reign allowed the hippie scene to flourish.

Charles Manson - influential as well as creepy, Charles embodied parents worst fears for their hippie children. Mainstream opinions were formed based on this loony and his followers that still exist. Maybe not a good influence, but an influence nontheless
Sorry, I got to call you on these two. Reagan is the guy we were all avoiding and/or hiding from. Reagan hated us, we hated him. Reagan was a pig's pig.
After Morningstar Ranch in Sonoma county was busted out of existence in 1967, a lot of the heads went to the Wheeler Ranch up the coast. It took the pigs about three years to destroy that, but Reagan was on the wire saying "No more Wheeler ranches." Reagan did as much to destroy our movement as Charles Manson.

And after Manson and his followers fucked over a few people (killed five, I think) about this time, it was just shit, guilt by association. All the counterculture people had to deal with this nonsense and deny he had anything to do with us. The pigs were already running wild all over us without this additional shit to deal with. So Manson just sort of helped the pigs fuck with us and force us in many cases out of our chosen life style because there were vigilantes left, right and centre. So fuck Manson, and fuck Reagan.

Also, you mention Dick Cavett and the Smothers Brothers? You forgot Sinatra, Hope and Dean Martin!

[neponiatka]

How about j.kerouac?

[dirtydog]

How about j.kerouac?Kerouac was okay as an author. I wouldn't put him in the same league with Tom Wolfe, Richard Brautigan or Norm Mailer. If he eventually became famous, I'm sure he was as surprised as anyone else.

Let's face it, most 'hippies' would have laughed out loud at the phrase 'hippie history heroes'!

[neponiatka]

i think J kerouac was the first beatnik and it's the beatnik movement that caused or gave a push to hippie one...

[RockerDetroit]

He wore sandals, had long hair and beard, walked everywhere, got all spiritual with people, spoke out against the leaders of his time.
And some of those parables are a trip.

[RockerDetroit]

He wore sandals, had long hair and beard, walked everywhere, got all spiritual with people, spoke out against the leaders of his time.
And some of those parables are a trip. Oh and he started the first commune.

[MikeE]

Oh and he started the first commune.?????

[RockerDetroit]

?????You know, Jesus..

[sarathustra]

My vote goes to George Harrison, John Lennon, William Burroughs, Ken Kesey, Jack Kerouac, Timothy Leary, Allen Ginsberg, Ohh goodness, i have too many heros :P

[plastic bagism]

Aldous Huxley. A precursor to hippies everywhere.

[andallthatstocome]

Aleister Crowley. he did it ALL and I mean all. All psychedelics avaliable to him, all the mystical stuff, all the encouraging of personal freedom (and the whole of the law will be "do what thou wilt"). hippie before hippies

[Pyewacket]

Those who forget..etc.

Who do you think are the most influencial hippies? Whose achievements should be remembered by all who call themselves hippies?

I'll start by offering Ina Mae Gaskin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ina_May_Gaskin), the mother of modern midwifery.Totally! I'm a prospective doula and thinking about going into midwifery later on if I feel the call. I'm reading Spiritual Midwifery right now. Ina May is a goddess!

If we're talking proto-hippies here, we can't forget Walt Whitman, Henry David Thoreau and Ralph Waldo Emerson....

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/images/newsmilies/3/set12_b/book2.gif

[stonerman420]

george harrison, he knew more about peace than john lennon, and he never beat his wife.
i agree 100% with you on this, i think lennon did the whole peace thing cuse that was the only thing going for him at that point, george has allways been my favorite beatle to.

id also have to say allen ginsberg, and to some extent timothy leary, if it wasnt for him, acid would probably of been exctinct by now if he hadnt done what he did. could be wrong, just my opinion. im also suprised no one mentioned ram dass, he worked with leary on the psylocibin tests at harvard and has written some great books on psychedelia and t'whatnot.

[BodyElectric]

Greg Hill n' Kerry Thornley. I'd add Robert A. Wilson to this but his big work never really came out until 71, he did hang around the Leary scene fairly predominately.

[longhairchief]

Jesus, Sigmund Freud, Wilhelm Reich...

I guess everything happened much earlier…

It just took some time for people to realize…

We are awaiting revival of the hippies again…

[dollydagger]

Jack Kerouac(but Im sure someone's metnioned him by now)

[dirtydog]

yeah...2 flag signs put together to mean "nuclear disarmament" one pose the guy looks like I (not an I but a straight line) and the other pose is an inverted V like ^
I wish I could draw on this damn thing....but you get what Im sayin, right?Step 1: Use the 'paint' program which comes with Windows to create a desired image. This may require some practice, but you'll have fun at it.
Step 2: The file created by the paint program is a 'bit map picture' or .bmp image, which is not acceptable to the hipforums photo upload software. I used some downloadable freeware called Irfanview to save the .bmp file as a .jpg file.
Step 3: Upload the .jpg file to your hipforums photo gallery.
Step 4: Paste the image in your photo gallery onto your posting using the 'my photos - select' link at the right of the 'reply (advanced)' page.
http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/data/500/peace39.jpg

[XBloodyNailPolishX]

John Lennon.

[stev90]

"Essentially, the Papers were an attempt to antagonize the street people into an awareness of the absolute bullshit implicit in the psychedelic transcendentalism promoted by the self-proclaimed, media-fabricated shamans who espoused the tune-in, turn-on, drop-out, jerk-off ideology of Leary and Alpert."

Emmett Grogan

http://www.brautigan.net/graphics/rb-grogan.jpg


Emmett Grogan (left, wearing beads) attending a meeting. Grogan was one of the founders of the Diggers.

The Diggers provided services to the needy, like free housing and food. The daily free food program was held in The Panhandle, an extension of Golden Gate State Park, San Francisco, where the Diggers provided donated or stolen produce, meat, and bread to hungry Haight-Ashbury residents.

[bandbeyondescription]

Tim Leary