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Snyfin
08-08-2006, 08:43 AM
In your honest opinion, what is the best starter entheogen? If you had to pick one for someone who has never done them before, what would it be?
Snyfin
08-08-2006, 06:37 PM
hello?
2cesarewild
08-08-2006, 10:26 PM
mushrooms.
Philo_1er
08-08-2006, 11:18 PM
Grind up 8-10 Hawaiian Baby woodrose seeds or 200 morning glory seeds, put into a glass of water and let them soak in the fridge for 2 days; strain out seed particles and drink...

or fresh peruvianus cactus including spines:eek:
Emanresu
08-08-2006, 11:49 PM
definitely mushrooms
shockseventyfour
08-08-2006, 11:54 PM
salvia 5x
abrad84
08-09-2006, 01:01 AM
salvia 5xAre you nuts? Salvia can and will scared the shit out of even the most experienced trippers.

I would actually recomend acid over mushrooms. I have always found mushroom trips much more difficult than acid.
Gdeadhead420
08-09-2006, 01:34 AM
5x salvia though??? thats not all that bad. when i smoked the whole container of 5x i only felt like i just smoked alot of weed or something. nothing like what happened with 20x...
moe.ron
08-09-2006, 04:48 AM
ecstasy pwnes every drug...and i know its not an entheogen.. just thought ide say that
2cesarewild
08-09-2006, 05:51 AM
ecstasy pwnes every drug...and i know its not an entheogen.. just thought ide say thatwow. Ecstasy is garbage first of all, but since your balls just dropped I wouldn't expect you to really know anything about how that shit affects people in the long run. Second, ecstasy ain't going to help you find god or have a spiritual experience. Unless of course grinding your teeth, sucking on a pacifier, and listening to repetative dance loops constitutes a spiritual experience. Keep the dumbass ecstasy pwns comments to relevant threads.
stebo32
08-09-2006, 06:36 AM
yes for a first entheogen, defenitely mushrooms, short-lasting and milder then most others.
Mac
08-09-2006, 08:57 AM
wow. Ecstasy is garbage first of all, but since your balls just dropped I wouldn't expect you to really know anything about how that shit affects people in the long run. Second, ecstasy ain't going to help you find god or have a spiritual experience. Unless of course grinding your teeth, sucking on a pacifier, and listening to repetative dance loops constitutes a spiritual experience. Keep the dumbass ecstasy pwns comments to relevant threads.
agreed. shit like that just makes you feel happy. for awhile...i ate 20 HBWR seeds and not only was i happy as ive ever been, it pretty much changed my life for the better..

i havent done too much in my 18 yerars but HBWR seeds eere amazing...i smoked some 10x salvia and felt nothing. my 4-5ish gram trip of shrooms was ok but nothing wonderful...

stick to natural shit
Dist0rted Dre4ms
08-09-2006, 09:14 AM
Salvia is definitly the best, it will fortify your faith in the rest, in my opinion. Strong trips can be terrifying, but if you do a bowl or two of 10x then you'll be perfectly fine and in another world for a very short time. Morning Glory seeds (from an online store that doesn't use pesticides) would be a close runner up... Though I cannot testify this myself, but Dagga/Damiana/Lotus resin is supposedly pretty great and tastes good too. Damiana is a really smooth smoke, but isn't very potent.

DO NOT compare the effects of these legal drugs to those of pot! You will just be dissappointed! There are very few drugs out there that are not blacklisted that have the potency of weed, and you will likely find that out the hard way. If you want potency, learn some basic kitchen chemistry and extract the active alkaloids for yourself and fortify the leaves.
2cesarewild
08-10-2006, 04:14 AM
sigh... the question was about entheogens. Pot is not an entheogen.
Duke of Prunes
08-10-2006, 05:11 AM
what is "pwns" i always see that. is it like owns, or is it like pawns (chess)?
Snyfin
08-10-2006, 05:57 AM
what is "pwns" i always see that. is it like owns, or is it like pawns (chess)?saying "pwns" is like saying someone is getting "owned" badly. Basically like someone getting beaten or dominated in a certain circumstance. It's just like getting whooped badly.
2cesarewild
08-10-2006, 06:33 AM
It has the same internet meaning as owned, cept it's kind of a play on the common type o of hitting the p key instead of the o. Also like when you see on irc pr0n instead of porn.
Dist0rted Dre4ms
08-10-2006, 08:43 AM
sigh... the question was about entheogens. Pot is not an entheogen.
Actually it is. The word "Entheogen" is derived from greek for "God Inspired" and has the connotation as being any plant material used for holy purposes. Pot has been used for centuries by wandering Sadhus as a divine plant, and likewise has a significant spiritual use in Rastafarianism. Know your definitions before you try to one-up someone. Use Wikipedia if you need to brush up on your trivia.

It has the same internet meaning as owned, cept it's kind of a play on the common type o of hitting the p key instead of the o. Also like when you see on irc pr0n instead of porn.
To elaborate, pwned came first on Battle.net with War Craft II since one of the developpers mistyped "Owned" in the text for when you defeat another character. The display message was "Player 1 pwned Player 2" for example. Gamers are relatively prevalent on most message boards and forums, so they carried out this little inside joke there, and eventually it spread out as a cultural phenomenon. Pr0n is used to bypass network filtering, as well as to mock newbies who try to act leet.



Arg.. This is getting way off topic.
2cesarewild
08-10-2006, 05:11 PM
Actually it is. The word "Entheogen" is derived from greek for "God Inspired" and has the connotation as being any plant material used for holy purposes. Pot has been used for centuries by wandering Sadhus as a divine plant, and likewise has a significant spiritual use in Rastafarianism. Know your definitions before you try to one-up someone. Use Wikipedia if you need to brush up on your trivia.




ROFL so a sixteen year old smoking pot with all his buddies while he munches a bag of doritos is a spiritual experience? Gimme a break. One-up, go eat a bag of one ups so you can see what a spiritual experience actually is.
Joey935
08-10-2006, 09:48 PM
One-up, go eat a bag of one ups so you can see what a spiritual experience actually is. LMAO!!!!
2cesarewild
08-10-2006, 11:28 PM
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Mac
08-11-2006, 08:10 PM
Actually it is. The word "Entheogen" is derived from greek for "God Inspired" and has the connotation as being any plant material used for holy purposes. Pot has been used for centuries by wandering Sadhus as a divine plant, and likewise has a significant spiritual use in Rastafarianism. Know your definitions before you try to one-up someone. Use Wikipedia if you need to brush up on your trivia.


To elaborate, pwned came first on Battle.net with War Craft II since one of the developpers mistyped "Owned" in the text for when you defeat another character. The display message was "Player 1 pwned Player 2" for example. Gamers are relatively prevalent on most message boards and forums, so they carried out this little inside joke there, and eventually it spread out as a cultural phenomenon. Pr0n is used to bypass network filtering, as well as to mock newbies who try to act leet.



Arg.. This is getting way off topic.
man youre good
ESP_Shredder
09-03-2006, 04:59 AM
Well if you're just looking for a purely good time without having to put any effort into the experience, do Ecstacy. If you want to go on a journey of the mind and body, do mush, but expect to put some effort into the experience to really have a good time. (Be in a good mind set, setting, people you like ect.) With E, none of that really matters, you just pop a pill and it's pretty much a guaranteed good time. There's a time and place for all drugs.