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pphuckoff
07-24-2004, 07:25 AM
does anyone know anything about this. I'm having a hard time finding information. I have been diagnosed with depression, then bi polar, now perhaps this. i'm sick of all of the damn labels and no one can really tell me what is wrong with me, why it is wrong with me, and how to fix it.

all i can find is that bipolar and borderline personality disorder share many many traits, they are just expressed differently (not ordered, for borderline) i can't figure it out, and i stopped seeing my shrink cause i decided i don't like this one either. at first i did, but now i don't like him anymore. he can't help anyway, all he does is sit there and stare at me like a lab rat.

Enonemouse
07-24-2004, 08:15 AM
The same condition can be given many labels and I am afraid the doctors, shrinks and the rest are only doing educated guessing most or the time unless there is a chemical imbalance they can detect or something shows up on a CAT scan they have nothing concrete to work with. You can give the exact same set of symptoms to three different people and they may come up with three different labels. Mental health is the hardest of all to work in as so much is getting to know the person not so much all your medical knowledge. Just keep going to your guy and keep tell him everything then he will get the big picture in the end. Sorry not to be more help but I haven't found much on Borderline Personality Disorder either. I have been researching alot on mental health since my son tried to kill himself and I haven't found anything on it. Again sorry and don't give up hope the answer is out there waiting to be found. I know it is!!!!!


Love & Support
EnonEmouse

pphuckoff
07-24-2004, 05:49 PM
thanks mouse,
i did find some new info on the internet, apparently the books i had from college were old, which is why they didn't say much about it. no shrink has told me i have it, i think i do though. i just don't fully understand it all yet. anyway, thanks for your response. i do wish you well on your exploring of the mind, it is a scary place. i don't like my shrink too much, i think i'm going to try to find some group therapy here. i just don't feel comfortable trying to tell him stuff, and he dosen't ask "the right questions" and i'm not so much forthcoming with info. i don't think of the things until after. anyway, this time before i find a new shrink or group, i'm going to write everything down first. that way even if i compartmentalize it and forget about it then i will have it there on paper to jog my memory. thanks again and best wishes to you and your son.

crystalstarr
07-24-2004, 06:07 PM
that is too odd. me and you are on the same page is seems.. i saw a theripist for the first time last week, and i was dignosed as bipolar and boarderline personality , i found some info on it, on the net, and to be honest i know im that it fits me pretty well

heres some links
http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/bpd.html

http://www.stanford.edu/~corelli/borderline.html

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/bpd.cfm

Epiphany
07-25-2004, 11:16 AM
Borderline and Bipolar do have many similiarities. Borderline is more focused on instability due to abandonment issues and relationships. I was diagnosed with both several years ago.

My borderline tendancies were fully in effect during my two year engagment. The idea of abaondonment was so bad that at times, I would freak out when my ex fiance left to use the bathroom. I began to express inappropriate and intense anger over what were minor conflicts at the time. The further he got himself into trouble (drug use, stealing, etc.) I would be provoked by anger to exhibit verbal or physical abuse (usually hitting or scratching) towards him. Afterwards, I would feel shame and guilt and apologize quickly for fear of losing him. After the end of our relationship, prayer and faith have helped greatly. I'm more for my religious side than my psychological studies.

Andy73
07-28-2004, 07:08 AM
Perhaps you should consider cultivating an internal locus of control. It may simply be that you do not 'fit in' to mainstream society. Some of us are meant to be rebels, and when we do not understand that we are 'not one of them' or some other group in society we have the tendency to grow neurotic by being cut off from our true selves.

There may be real, and rational reasons for your anger. You must understand the anger and yourself. You must get in touch with who you really are in order to begin the road towards health.

pphuckoff
07-29-2004, 03:18 AM
Epiphany,

that is exactly what i do, i have these issues, but i have no idea why. no one has ever truely abandoned me, but my dad emotionally abandoned me. and he was physically and mentall abusive growing up. i just wonder sometimes if there is really nothing actually "wrong" with me, but rather i'm just a product of the way i was raised. i am just reacting the way i have learned to react. i freak out and break things, because that is what my dad did. i'm so stuck to my boyfriend and afraid of losing him, because that is what my mom did. i just wonder if perhaps i'm just "normal" considering the circumstances of my life. to me this seems like it would be so much easier to correct, because all learned behavior can be unlearned and relearned properly under the right conditions. and i think that perhaps i'm starting to make some changes for the better. i mean at least i'm aware of it, that is a good step. i can see things coming now, since i've done it. i am full of anger, rage, and hatred. i've been this way since i was little. everyone used to tell me how hateful i was. but see in my head, i'm not that way. in my head i'm this happy go lucky person full of love and laughter. sometime i think that i'm myself on the inside, but that part can't come out, it is being blocked by my self preservation mechanisms that i have created that make me feel safer, but are actually hindering me from forming good lasting relationships. it isn't just my boyfriend i've been this way with friends my whole life. that is probably why i haven't got any at the moment. people get sick of me. i wish so badly that i could be the real me, the me i see in my mind. i don't know how to let her out.


Andy, you are right i agree, but i don't know where to start.

livingwater
09-25-2004, 11:08 PM
I am so glad there is a place to talk about this here.

I went to a psychiatrist yesterday. He hasn't diagnosed me with anything yet...I wonder why? Is this normal for them to wait a while before they diagnose you? The other thing is he gave me medicine- Lexaprol-10mg(u can look it up if u aren't familiar with it.I did- it's an anti-depressant.)I took the medicing last nite and a couple hours after taking it I felt nauseous. I felt that way up until about noon today.

Since taking it- it's just made me feel-well, general..u could tell me that u just ran over my cat and I would be like...oh, really u shouldn't have done that...
Hopefully, u guys understand the mood I am talking about...

U could also tell me that I just won a trip to Hawaii and I would be like:

Wow- that's really cool-just general...no strong emotion..
But if anyone has any answers to my questions or comments ,it would help

fulmah
11-12-2004, 12:17 AM
Anyone with questions about bpd, feel free to PM me (I'm not a licensed psych or anything, but consider myself pretty much a pro on bpd :) )... There's a lot of myths out there concerning it. It's commonly misdiagnosed or undiagnosed, as many physicians (if they can't determine a diagnosis) will label people bpd, or (if they went to a school where bpd isn't taught) don't believe it's a clinical diagnosis.

The best site for info I can recommend off the web is here (and it's very good!):
http://www.bpdresources.com/

support groups are here:
http://www.bpdresources.com/supportBPs.html#BPsonly

and the best therapy is dialectical behavior therapy:
http://apt.rcpsych.org/cgi/content/full/8/1/10

livingwater
11-12-2004, 10:48 PM
Namaste Fulmah

I dislike the way people or
"those established ones "love to label-. especially when it comes to something as serious as a mental disorder or health related issue..Thanks for the links-:)

livingwater
11-12-2004, 10:52 PM
BTW- everyone on this thread
I have been off the Lexapro for about a month and a half-seems like it at least. I stopped taking it...I hated the nausea it brought and also the irregular menstrual period that the so called male Psychiatrist gave me. I suddenly stopped taking it and started more supplements, Vitamin B Complex and pot pot pot!
So far, things are better with my own regime. Why didn't I totally realize this earlier?....

LunaPeace85
02-21-2005, 04:21 PM
I have Borderline Personality Disorder. If anyone wants to ask me anything feel free to PM me. I go to therapy called DBT and it is very, very helpful. It's kinda like a skills training class. It's amazing. Anyway, I don't take medication ( those around me probably wish that I did), but I stopped looking at BPD as a mental illness and started seeing it as a blessing. I look at the world like most people do not. My BPD, though it sometimes holds me back, also is amazing artistic inspiration. My BPD, is like a little peephole in a door that no one can access but me.

fulmah
02-22-2005, 08:29 PM
I go to therapy called DBT and it is very, very helpful. It's kinda like a skills training class. It's amazing.
I’ve heard that a lot of bpd’s are a little put off by the training methods of dbt therapy, as in they think that it kinda reprograms the way you think, replacing that unique world view. Do you find this not to be the case?



Just curious, and good luck with it!

LunaPeace85
02-22-2005, 10:56 PM
I don't really think of it so much as reprogramming the way I think, as I think it teaches skills to help you cope. There are some skills I may not agree with and therefore I do not practice them outside of therapy. The skills that I think will help, I definantly am willing to learn and implement. As with anything, there's negative and positive. In my life, I think that DBT does more help than harm.